2001 Alero Idea

Alright, I'm not exactly sure if my Alero is the GL or GLS. It's hard to tell, it has no leather, yet it has a power drivers seat. Anyway, it's the 2.4L Twin Cam version(auto). I've been wanting a Honda Del Sol forever, but I am moving to college soon and don't really have the money for one yet. SO, I'm going to keep my current Alero and just do some things to it. Would all of these things be possible on this car?

-17" or 18" Rim, Low Profile tires
-Kombat Body Kit
-Manaul Shift Kit(Convert the Auto To Manual, I'm buying a new engine for it, so it probably wouldn't be too hard with the motor pulled out)
-Cold Air Intake
-Performance Muffler
-Performance Wires
-Paint job(Of course, after the body kit is attached)
-Mounted Subs in trunk(I have subs in a box right now, but I don't like them sliding. I want them mounted, lol.)
-Aftermarket Steering Wheel(+ Mount if needed)


Would all of these modifications be possible on my Alero? Thanks alot guys, I appreciate it!


-Yosh

Everything will be possible except 2 things

Converting an automatic to a manual would be the biggest PITA ever - unless, like you said, you were somehow changing the engine, the tranny, and the drivetrain all at once to a different setup that was a manual. But trying to change an auto to a manual would be very difficult - it would be almost easier just to buy a new car there is so much entailed with it.

and you couldn't have performance wires for a 2.4, because it doesn't have ignition wires, it has an IDI (integrated Direct Ignition) which entails of the coil packs mating directly with the tops of the spark plugs.

by the way, welcome to the forum.

I've seen it done on honda's and stuff before, so I assume it could be done to an Alero. I think since I am putting a new engine, it shouldn't be that bad. I think it would be worth it though :D Get a bit more power and way more fun to drive.

17 and 18'' wheels will not fit because it will rub on the plastic. you can get subs in there i guess, not my thing though.Performance Mufflers, yes, magnaflow works well for my 3.4L.Performance Wires, yes, i have 8mm wires taylers. they are great.Aftermarket Steering Wheel,why not, it should fit.Kombat Body Kit,maybe, just keep in mind,SPEED BUMPS!!! if you hit one of those with that kit, your done!Paint job,sure, just dont do a maaco paint job, they could not paint a car if their life depended on it.

Alright, I'm not exactly sure if my Alero is the GL or GLS. It's hard to tell, it has no leather, yet it has a power drivers seat. Anyway, it's the 2.4L Twin Cam version(auto). I've been wanting a Honda Del Sol forever, but I am moving to college soon and don't really have the money for one yet. SO, I'm going to keep my current Alero and just do some things to it. Would all of these things be possible on this car?

-17" or 18" Rim, Low Profile tires
-Kombat Body Kit
-Manaul Shift Kit(Convert the Auto To Manual, I'm buying a new engine for it, so it probably wouldn't be too hard with the motor pulled out)
-Cold Air Intake
-Performance Muffler
-Performance Wires
-Paint job(Of course, after the body kit is attached)
-Mounted Subs in trunk(I have subs in a box right now, but I don't like them sliding. I want them mounted, lol.)
-Aftermarket Steering Wheel(+ Mount if needed)

-Yosh

How much more is the Del Sol? You appear to have a good chunk of cash, why not keep saving?

Because I owe 8K on the car. :D

Not a clue, sorry.

17 and 18'' wheels will not fit because it will rub on the plastic.

Excellent point. For Alero owners with that have the stock 16 inch wheels and Goodyear Eagle P225/50R16 tires they barely fit.

bnaylor3400, I back him up also on that. From the tire to the plastic, its about the with of 3 fingers. Another thing to is with bigger wheels, you will have more drag and more weight.

If done right, increasing the wheel size should not chage the outside diameter of the tire. Example, if you have a 225/65/16 then you can probably go with a 225/55/17. The larger you go the less sidewall you will have but the overall circumference should be approximately the same. This is called plus or oversizing http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoPlusSizing.dos

Google oversizing ticker and you can find charts that tell you your choices when oversizing...

bnaylor3400-any thoughts on this? I know it can hinder preformance with a larger rim, and you could loos preformance because there is more weight.

bnaylor3400-any thoughts on this? I know it can hinder preformance with a larger rim, and you could loos preformance because there is more weight.

Well, if you guys insist, here's my 2 cents. I agree with LeBuick to a point. What he states is true in a lot of circumstances, however, the GM "N" bodies such as the Alero and Grand AM may be exceptions to the rule. We've got Goodyear Eagle RS-A P225/50R16 tires along with the performance package 16 inch wheels on our '02 Alero GL2. These are stock not aftermarket.

The problem I see with 17 inch rims is that the tire may rub on the lower part of the McPherson strut and also at the bottom of where you see the coil spring lower plate. I only have barely 3/4 of an inch now at those two points. Keep in mind I already have the 16 inch wheels and 50 series aspect ratio on the tire. 18 inch wheels would be out of the question.

You might be able to get the 17 inch rim to fit but would have to go to an aspect ratio of less than 50 on the tire which is pushing it. There's not much tire height as it is at 50. A tire width of 225 is about the limit too. 235s would be too wide and rub for sure.

When you change tire height you are ultimately changing the final gearing of the car. Plus the 50 series tires leave a lot to be desired in the area of comfort. It may improve the handling but induces oversteer which may not be desireable to a lot of people. You might pull .82 gs on a skidpid but a long trip out of town will be tiresome. The bigger tire/wheel package will add to the weight (unsprung) of the car.

There are a lot of factors to consider before going out and spending big bucks on tires and wheels, especially when dealing with an Alero.

Hope the info helps.

...Plus the 50 series tires leave a lot to be desired in the area of comfort. It may improve the handling but induces oversteer which may not be desireable to a lot of people. You might pull .82 gs on a skidpid but a long trip out of town will be tiresome. The bigger tire/wheel package will add to the weight (unsprung) of the car....

You got this right, a kid at our church put what looks like 20's on his honda. I say this cause there can't be more than half inch of sidewall. He gave me a ride home and it reminded me of the flintstones. Felt like we were riding on rocks...

I based my response on when I put 17 on my Buick. I insisted on keeping the speedometer close to accurate. I did a lot of checking cause I went from 15x6 to 17x7.5 STS wheels. After looking at my wifes 99 Alero and can see your caution.

One caution that was consistent was don't use a spacer.

You got this right, a kid at our church put what looks like 20's on his honda. I say this cause there can't be more than half inch of sidewall. He gave me a ride home and it reminded me of the flintstones. Felt like we were riding on rocks...

I based my response on when I put 17 on my Buick. I insisted on keeping the speedometer close to accurate. I did a lot of checking cause I went from 15x6 to 17x7.5 STS wheels. After looking at my wifes 99 Alero and can see your caution.

One caution that was consistent was don't use a spacer.


Thats a really good point about the possible speedometer error. I've seen if it isn't matched up closely on overall diameter and circumference, etc. the error could be enough to get a speeding ticket.

If you put a P225/60R16 tire/wheel combo on an Alero GX/GL originally with P215/60R15 the speedometer for example at 65 mph may read 65 mph but you're actually going 68.80 mph.

Thats a good one! Flintstone mobiles. Yabadabadooo!

You guys trip me out. I've got 17" wheels on my Alero with Intrax lowering springs and I've never had any rubbing issues. Yes you do have to get a tire with a smaller side wall but the ride is damn near the same before I did anything. The stock wheels and tires are tanks. I think they weigh in right under 40 lbs. Most 17" aluminum rims and tires weigh nowhere near that so performance would most likely increase. I think the 17s are too small and plan on upgrading to 18s soon. The only problem you will get from adding a bigger wheel would be in the width. The max an Alero can handle is a 8.5" wide rim. I've seen a couple of Alero's with 20s without any modifications to the struts or suspension. Granted I think it looks like shit but it's possible to fit them.

You guys trip me out. I've got 17" wheels on my Alero with Intrax lowering springs and I've never had any rubbing issues. Yes you do have to get a tire with a smaller side wall but the ride is damn near the same before I did anything. The stock wheels and tires are tanks. I think they weigh in right under 40 lbs. Most 17" aluminum rims and tires weigh nowhere near that so performance would most likely increase. I think the 17s are too small and plan on upgrading to 18s soon. The only problem you will get from adding a bigger wheel would be in the width. The max an Alero can handle is a 8.5" wide rim. I've seen a couple of Alero's with 20s without any modifications to the struts or suspension. Granted I think it looks like shit but it's possible to fit them.


If you read my 2 cents worth, I don't recall saying that a 17 inch wheel wouldn't fit but that the rubber has to be adjusted accordingly. You'd have to drop below a 50 series tire.

A typical aftermarket 17 inch wheel has a width of 7.5" and 18 inch 8.5" so based on what you're saying they should fit without any mods...right?

What is your current tire size?

On the 20s without modifications on an Alero, I'd have to see it to believe it. Why don't you post a pic of one? Seeing is believing.

As to ride quality Alero's don't have any in the first place so it probably wouldn't make any difference. Be glad to let you test drive my '97 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP with 17" wheels and then you be the judge.

The only way to get a real performance gain on an Alero is under the hood. With your nice wheels what do you have under the hood to back them up.

At the dragstrip, we've blown the doors off the kids in the Honda rice-burners with 18" + wheels. They are under the wrong impression that they can win just with pretty wheels and tires. The response is the guy at the tire shop said it would make my car super fast. Made 5 bills with Ben Franklin's face on it one day.

BTW - Weren't you one of the guys on one of those Alero forums that had all the rack & pinion and steering problems after upgrading the wheels and tires?

The only issue I've had on my car was the LIM gasket. As far as performance goes I'll start the list:
Full MSD ignition
Msd 8.5mm plug wires
ported lower intake manifold
ported upper intake manifold
62mm throttle body
ported heads
cold air intake
SLP cat back exhaust
S&S headers
DHP reprogrammed ECU
STB front and back
bigger sway bars
polyurethane bushings everywhere I could put them

I'm not the typical ricer that your thinking I am. I was basically talking to everyone that posted above you saying it's not possible. If you would like to reread my post I never said that wheels would definaty increase performance I said most likely. MOST LIKELY! It's simple physics you go from 40lbs rolling mass to say 33lbs it doesn't take as much power to get them moving.

Here ya go. Read his guestbook he states the only thing he did was put spacers on the back so they stick out further.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/583793

The only issue I've had on my car was the LIM gasket. As far as performance goes I'll start the list:
Full MSD ignition
Msd 8.5mm plug wires
ported lower intake manifold
ported upper intake manifold
62mm throttle body
ported heads
cold air intake
SLP cat back exhaust
S&S headers
DHP reprogrammed ECU
STB front and back
bigger sway bars
polyurethane bushings everywhere I could put them

I'm not the typical ricer that your thinking I am. I was basically talking to everyone that posted above you saying it's not possible. If you would like to reread my post I never said that wheels would definaty increase performance I said most likely. MOST LIKELY! It's simple physics you go from 40lbs rolling mass to say 33lbs it doesn't take as much power to get them moving.


Nice mods. You should be able to clean up at the strip. With the engine mods you've got, a difference of 7 lbs per wheel would be moot. What is your 1/4 mile ET, trap speed, and 0 - 60 ft times?

Did DHP do a custom re-programming job on your ECU? What brand is your CAI and 62mm throttlebody?

Nice to see pic of that engine. Sounds bad!

This is just a thought, Why would you want to put 20'' tires on an Alero anyways? Its not a viper or corvett. WHY? Thats like haveing a huge tach on your dash with a 6'' diamater, when you have a stock one there that works perfactly fine. Im all for making cars faster and everything and making the car look a little better then stock, but, darn! But thats what i think, and my thoughts only!

bnaylor3400, You have to see this one,he said that he has 8.5mm wires. well.. if you look at his pics on that website, sore some reason, i dont see them! 8.5mm wires are hard to miss, i mean i have 8mm on mine and you can see them. I also didnt see his headers either. take a look and see what he does not have as stated above. I could be wrong on all of this, so please take a look.

bnaylor3400, You have to see this one,he said that he has 8.5mm wires. well.. if you look at his pics on that website, sore some reason, i dont see them! 8.5mm wires are hard to miss, i mean i have 8mm on mine and you can see them. I also didnt see his headers either. take a look and see what he does not have as stated above. I could be wrong on all of this, so please take a look.


Oh you mean the red Alero at that web site address he gave us? It belongs to a guy by the name of Josh. It's not jamcllw's Alero. It was for the purpose of showing that it is possible to mount 20" wheels on the Alero but even Josh stated he had to put in spacers I believe at the rear.
However, in Josh's guestbook another guy stated he had 20" wheels and could not get them to fit. The car has no mods and is box stock otherwise. Josh runs the Nitto tires NT555 Extreme size: ZR 225/35/20.
Basically, it just another pretty euro/rice-burner. If he was modded out the spacers will prove to be a safety hazard to include running 35 aspect ratio tires, especially if he had the mods and power jamcllw claims he has. Plus on a high G-turn at speed the tire will rub against the strut on the front end due to tire flexing.

Here are some simple calculations. Its all physics...lol. His tire revolutions per mile is 793.89. Stock Aleros have revolutions per mile around 850 to 836. Josh has possibly improved his gas mileage by slowing his car down. The difference is -42. The bottom line if both cars were stock Josh would probably loose in a drag race or any type of acceleration run. He altered his overall final drive ratio/gearing. The car with the higher spins has the lower overall gearing and therefore would be quicker. Josh would probably have the higher top speed but I doubt it since he has no modified ECU and would hit the speed limiter/barrier at 106 mph. In essence you gain nothing but looks and possible improved gas mileage.

Plus with Josh's tire/wheel combination he will have a speedo error of approximately 3.5 mph. When he sees for example 65 mph on the speedo, he's actually going 68.5 mph.

Other than looks, or maybe keeping up with the Jone's I really don't see what is to be gained considering the amount of money spent for name brand aftermarket wheels and tires.

But I will say that 20 inch wheels look sharp on a pickup truck like a Ford F-150, Chevy Silverado or Dodge Ram Magnum. Plus pickup trucks would benefit due to the possible increase in miles per gallon due to less tire revolutions per mile.

BTW - Just my 2 cents

Here ya go. Read his guestbook he states the only thing he did was put spacers on the back so they stick out further.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/583793

Do you know this guy? How does this car ride? That looks like the kids at my churches tires, He also put in racing seats with very little padding. Ya Ba Da Ba Doo...

Do you know this guy? How does this car ride? That looks like the kids at my churches tires, He also put in racing seats with very little padding. Ya Ba Da Ba Doo...

Hi LeBuick. I really don't know but it looks like an accident waiting to happen to me. Doesn't make any sense. Maybe they'll realize when they get to our age that safety, ride, good handling, and comfort are more important than looks or keeping up with the other guy. I don't know about you but when I get out of the Alero and into my Buick or Pontiac, the difference is like day n night.

All I got out of this whole thing is the 16" wheels will definitely fit safely within GM specifications. 17" will probably fit but with less than 50 series tires. 18" may fit but with very expensive 35 series tires. 20" may fit but with spacers and very expensive 35 series tires. But sacrificing safety, handling, ride/comfort, and possible performance to include speedo error
you brought up.

I guess anythings possible but at what cost.

You said it brother, values do change as you get older. Reminds me of these women with pants so tight they have to loosen the top button to sit down or eat. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the scenery but feel sorry for any women who goes through that just to be noticed. I've learned the type of bait has a lot to do with the fish you catch.

I once had a buddy that would ride with the tinted windows up in his caddy because it looked cool and the ladies thought his AC worked. He also had curb feelers on the drivers side, a green tennis ball on his antenna, trunk tied with a bungie, rust behind the rear wheels, dented front fender, worn rear shocks and no two tires were the same.

I use to tell him, "trust me, riding with the windows up ain't impressing nobody, it's just making you sweat".

Oh yeah, he tinted the windows himself. It was his first time...

Thought you guys might get a laugh or kick out of this. Here's a pic of a real Honda rice burner. Notice the oversize tires and wheels.

"Keep on roosting"

http://www.photodump.com/direct/LizzyN./honda_riceb.jpg

bnaylor3400, I dont think he values his live very much. Either he will kill himself or others with all of the mads he supposely has done to it. He probley thinks he cant die. I work in A hospital and i seen young kids that been dragracing on the streets get killed. 2 weeks ago, we had a kid that was 18 and he came in DOA! Dead on arrivel! he had sever head trama, chf-congestive head tramma, and a brain hemerage. You can die. I have seen it. dont think you cant die just because you have a 4-5 point harnes. that does help alot when in a crash, but that does not mean 100% you are going to walk away from the crash! I do work in in ER as well as the Pharmacy, and i seen kids like you die from stupit crap like this. I hope one day he will know what im talking about before it is to late. Who agrees with me!

chf-Congestive hart failer, sorry

You can't beat any sense into a dead horse. It's their car, life, and money so I guess they can do what they want. I wonder if any of these guys that may put anything above 17" wheels on their Aleros have the guts to inform their insurance company, if any, of the mod.

At least the original poster got his money's worth both pro and con on this issue.

Im sure he has done that already.lol

Could someone please be kind enough to explain to me how putting a bigger wheel on your car affects insurance prices? I tell the insurance company everything I do to my car including sending them pictures as proof that I have it. I pay $10 more a month for $6000 in extra coverage for aftermarket parts. If any of it goes missing or I get in a wreck everyone of my parts are covered and I get reimbursed for them. Including the wheels.

I hope i am replaying to this correct but, why do you tell them all the aftermarket things you put on there? if you tell them this, your insh, will go up! nobody does this. atleast not me. if you have a 4 cilinder and put a turbocharger in there, you dont tell them this because they will think you are racing it and they will bring up your inshurence threw the roof. I tell them nothing. if you get bigger tires, well should not affect the rate. but throw off your spedo. I hope this helps.

jamcllw-18'' tires will not fit! what have you been smoking? Plus, why would you want to put 18-20'' tires on an alero? WHY??? PLEASE TELL ME, I want to hear this one! the 18'' tires will rub. Please use common sence. do you really think 20'' tires will fit or even 18'' tires will fit w/o any mods? I think you have seen pimp my ride one to many times.

Could someone please be kind enough to explain to me how putting a bigger wheel on your car affects insurance prices? I tell the insurance company everything I do to my car including sending them pictures as proof that I have it. I pay $10 more a month for $6000 in extra coverage for aftermarket parts. If any of it goes missing or I get in a wreck everyone of my parts are covered and I get reimbursed for them. Including the wheels.


Tell your insurance company everything.....sure you do?? Anyone that puts $6K into or claims he/she has $6K worth of aftermarket parts on their Alero, of all things, needs to have their head examined. Not too economical and a waste of money. :screwy:

BTW - Called my insurance agent and explained to him that I wanted to put 20" wheels/tires on my Alero and whether they had insurance coverage available both liability and collision/theft/comprehensive to cover it. He laughed. :lol2:

I would laugh me ass of too! They are thinking that the this guy is first nuts, then laugh agine at is ass. then when he is done laughing, he tells everyone in the office, then when a laugh has been made by all, they cancel you! they would see that kid a mile away with the damn blinker on. Im still laughing at jamcllw, hold on....I have to tell everone at work this one. jamcllw, are you this stupid??? How old are you?this is something a 16yr old would do.

Ya'll can both kiss my ass. I go through Progressive ask them if they have an aftermarket waiver. You don't know shit about what your talking about. I tell them to cover my ass incase I do get into a wreck. I apologize I didn't mean to put extra coverage I meant to put up to $6000 in extra coverage to cover the parts. I never said I put $6000 in my Alero. I agree thats not economical.
vamc- Your a fucking idiot to believe you can't put 18s on. How many links to different Aleros to I need to link to showing 18s that fit perfectly. And Pimp My Ride is the dumbest fucking show on TV. I love how you claim in separate threads that your ASE and then your an ER nurse or what the hell ver. You know jack shit about cars. Quoting vamc" I replaced my head gaskets it was located above the spark plugs" I guess you didn't pay attention in your ASE class. Your the fucking tool.

ER nurse.lolo not even close. i spent 200,000bucks for pharmacy school.you dont know shit about cars, take a hike. tell everybody what you did and tell them you did no mods and see what they say!!!!!! Take a hike!!!!!! I see you said nothing about the 16yr part.lolyou are one

At least I know what the hell a head gasket is and where the fuck its located. I don't tell people they have head gasket problems when it's really a lower intake manifold gasket. Oh I forgot you changed yours that's located above the spark plugs. You must have the only car in history with a head gasket above the spark plugs. You should patent it youd probably make a fortune. And I haven't been 16 for damn near 8 years. If you knew shit about this forum you could click on my name and see my birthday that was posted long before you were a member here. TOOL

LOL. You know what, if you think 18'' wheels will fit, try it. i wont stop you. i know they dont but... by all means try it and tell me what you found out. what ever you think!!!!

http://images.trafficmp.com/tmpad/content/webclients/coolphone4free/0105/Popunder%20(720x300)_2005112174638.htm

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/372200

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/207416

All riding on 18s with lowering springs. You know not which you speak so please stop filling peoples heads with lies.

You are correct, they do have 18'' BUT if you look carefully, look at the tires, see how they are comming out of the body!!! that means there are spacers. that means there are mods! hhmmmmm. Speak no evil. hear no evil, say no evil.

I'm still troubled as to why someone would put 18" - 20" wheels on an Alero. In 10 words or less what is the real benefit? I could see it if it were a Vette, Viper or one of those exotic Italian or German sports cars which have the suspension system and chassis to match.

Even the new RPO Z51 Corvette only has 18" on the front and 19" on the rear and at least it deserves them.

This kid has seen pimp my ride one to many times. He is just wasting his time and mony on them.

This kid has seen pimp my ride one to many times. He is just wasting his time and mony on them.

:lol2: lol. "Pimp My Ride". Is that that stupid show on MTV? They ought to rename it to "Trash My Ride".

LOL. You mean you dont want a film projector and a popcorn machine in your car. I saw that one. that has to be the stupidest thing i seen yet on there, becides the tv on to bottom of the spair tire on a suv.LOLOLOLOL I hate that show, i think this kid has saw it to many times though.lololol

You are correct, they do have 18'' BUT if you look carefully, look at the tires, see how they are comming out of the body!!! that means there are spacers. that means there are mods! hhmmmmm. Speak no evil. hear no evil, say no evil.

Your such a dumbass. E-mail each of the people that own those cars. Ask them if they have spacers on them. Wheels do come with different offsets. Once again you've proved my point that you don't know shit. I'll even e-mail the guy that owns the ruby red one with the 5 star wheels and post his reply on here. Or better yet go over to Aleromod.com and ask there. The guy that owns the ruby red alero goes by Naich on that website and he's also the owner of the aleromod.com

I am aware of the offsets. i said nothing about that. you know what, if you dont like what i have to say, get lost.

Answer all questions please jamcllw!!
1. What are the advantages of haveing 18''-20;; tires.?
2.Where are all the pics to your alero that you said you did all the mods to??? Back up your stuff!!
3.What is your quarter mile time?ETA? 0-60. i want to see #'s.
4. Wht do you always say this person has this and that person has that?? What about YOU!! This is what we are talking about right, YOU, not somebody else!!! Please answer all questions!

Chance favers the prepard mind!

1) It's called personalization it looks better than stock some people don't like looking like the other 500000 aleros out there
2) got no where to host them. I don't spend my entire life on the internet.
3) never gone to a track closest one is about an hour away and plus I know the car is slow I don't need a timeslip to tell me.
4) I told you what I had. I've said I don't have 18s. Your the one saying 18s won't fit well I've tried to prove it and gave you a place to ask the question where tons of people have them.

And if you don't like what I have to say why don't you "get lost"

Answer all questions please jamcllw!!
1. What are the advantages of haveing 18''-20;; tires.?
2.Where are all the pics to your alero that you said you did all the mods to??? Back up your stuff!!
3.What is your quarter mile time?ETA? 0-60. i want to see #'s.
4. Wht do you always say this person has this and that person has that?? What about YOU!! This is what we are talking about right, YOU, not somebody else!!! Please answer all questions!

Chance favers the prepard mind!


Good point Vamc! He should put his money where his mouth is.
I'm still curious to see his 1/4 mile ET and 0 60 ft- times with all those mods he claims he has. And now he acknowledges its slow and never been to a dragstrip to see what its got. Give us a break.

Must be afraid some real ricer with a Honda Accord, Civic, or Acura RSX will dust him. However, at least he's going to have personalized 18" or 20" inch wheels that have zero usefulness on an Alero but look good (maybe?). :lol2:

But realistically guys...its time to let it rest and get on with life or at least a new subject.

You know 18-20'' tires give you more hp, just like NOS stickers.lolololololololool. Well its been 20hp and no responce yet from him. i wonder where he is. hhhhhmmmmm. ohh well.

"A bad day at the track is better then a good day at work"

You know 18-20'' tires give you more hp, just like NOS stickers.lolololololololool. Well its been 20hp and no responce yet from him. i wonder where he is. hhhhhmmmmm. ohh well.

"A bad day at the track is better then a good day at work"

:lol2:Here's a good one for you Vamc:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/ricejoke07.jpg

bnaylor3400, i like that.lolololol. You know, he still has not back to us yet. i think we scard him away.lolol

You ain't chased shit away. Where the hell did I say wheels added horsepower? And it really sounds to me like ya'll need to get off the internet 24/7 and get a life. Not everybody pisses there time away here.
Your just pissed that you realized you don't know shit.

Hate to be a party pooper, but....

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/guidelines.html

Just thought I'd throw that out there for you guys - before a mod comes in here and bans one or more of you - you guys need to really cool the bashing. When people ask questions on our forums, they don't need to back up anything. They come here to ask a question - what they drive and what they do with it is their business. They don't need to "prove" anything. Just take a chill-pill guys; this is a technical forum, not a fight-ring.

Hey Vamc (Andrew) here's a pic of our '02 Alero GL2 with stock 16" Olds Alloy wheels and Goodyear Eagle RSA P225/50 R-16 tires. Nice and clean in looks. Handling and ride is excellent. The auto magazines tested the GL2 and it pulled over .82Gs on a 200 ft skidpad with this combination.

It has the same handling package as the Grand Am GT box stock. Getting ready to add a lowering kit to drop it approx. 1.5 inches. :bigthumb:

http://www.photodump.com/direct/coolrex/alero.jpg

I will send you a few of mine, what is your e-mail address?

I will send you a few of mine, what is your e-mail address?

I'd like to see it. I'll send you my email address via private email. Later.

Excellent point. For Alero owners with that have the stock 16 inch wheels and Goodyear Eagle P225/50R16 tires they barely fit.
I have 17 inch rims on my Alero and it does not rub.
Also i have the kombat body kit on the Alero as well and it really sets off the car

[QUOTE=bnaylor3400]If you read my 2 cents worth, I don't recall saying that a 17 inch wheel wouldn't fit but that the rubber has to be adjusted accordingly. You'd have to drop below a 50 series tire.

Actually no you wouldn't have to drop below a 50 series tires. I have 50 series tires on my Alero with 17 inch rims and they fit with no problem and there is no rubbing. I definetly think that you could fit 18's on and Alero however you would be looking at have tires that are 30-35 series but they definetly would fit. 20's how i think that it would be stretching it a little to much. Also I don't think that notifing your insurance is a bad thing if you are putting mods into your car. For example if you put 3000 dollar stereo system in your car and someone rips you off and jacks your system insurance will not cover it, unless they are notified that you have in and the rates are adjusted to cover it. Just because you have insurance on your car does not mean that it cover every additional thing that you do. Insurance is there to cover that base price of the vehicle. Not any modifications that are done to the car. To cover those you would have to pay extra.