Walked an evo

WHP is HP measured after all drivetrain, blue fairy, and talking elephant loss is taken out.

Weight of the drivetrain has nothing to do with HP or WHP loss. Though it may show up on a dyno, it means nothing. Lighter drivetrain components only allow for quicker deployment of the existing BHP to WHP. In lamens terms, it allows your engine to rev quicker thus allowing gears to wind out faster. Tires are the same prinicple. Smaller tires may allow quicker acceleration and show more HP on a dyno, but that certainly doesn't mean the car has any more HP than before. Likewise, larger tires may show the car as having less HP, but the car still has the same amount of HP as before. Still traps the same speed at the 1320. Same goes for lightened flywheels, driveshafts, ect. Then try dynoing after putting in the correction factors.;)

And drivetrain layout will only play a factor on winning in the 1320'. From a highway roll, WHP is all that matters.

Uhhhh, did anyone ever get pictures/slips/dyno sheets of this guy's car yet?

Uhhhh, did anyone ever get pictures/slips/dyno sheets of this guy's car yet?
No, we are too busy arguing.

Yeah so a whole day later.........where are the pics????
I wish I would of caught this yesterday but I guess Tat beat me to it. I dont see how he gained so much HP from 8.5 psi either. also he didnt need to come up with a list of mods, he just had to go online and look up the kit and then repeat all the items on the list to us plus the run of the mill supporting mods.
It be cool though, a Sentra smoking an Evo, that'd be sure to piss a few people off.

he has a fairly big engine for a 4 cylinder, you dont need a whole lot of boost to make much more power correct?

A little late, but I'm with Tat on this one. WHP is hp after the drivetrain has had its parasitic effect. It has already been accounted for mathematically. To say you have to account for the drivetrains rotating mass after the fact is the same as accounting for parasitic losses 2x. Which would equate to the EVO lossing 50% of its power, not 25%.

Here's 5 of the pics he sent me, which i feel is more than enough to give him his credit...Nice car man



http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/36460turbofored001.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/36460turbofored003.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/36460turbofored004.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/36460turbofored008.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/36460turbofored009.jpg

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TurboSpecV57, I believe you. If you are, in fact pulling one on all of us, well you did a damn good job. Nice car!


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TurboSpecV57, I believe you. If you are, in fact pulling one on all of us, well you did a damn good job. Nice car!


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A little too late for April Fools or really damn early

well i'll be damned. it does exist. alright, you have owned the doubters.

ehhh. it's not hard to find pics of other peoples shit on websites. just throwing that out there.

Nice setup TurboSpecV. I believe you, for what it is worth. Time to get some vids now (Preferrably on the track, so that they don't impound your sweet ride).

Glad to see you stood up for yourself Spec. It's not easy defending yourself here at AF. But you pretty much just owned all of the Street Racing regz. Can't wait to see the vids, and thanks for the pics. Here's one for the non-believers (I too was a bit skeptic at first, until I read on that is :biggrin: ):

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/232382AFOWNED-med.JPG

L8...

ehhhhhhhhhh. he still hasn't convinced me. it's too easy to find someone elses mod lists and find some random pictures.

hahahaha roflmao...complete with the table to brace yourself against shit lol.

ehhhhhhhhhh. he still hasn't convinced me. it's too easy to find someone elses mod lists and find some random pictures.

Well Sherlock, looks like you got some detective work cut out for yourself. You have exactly 45 mins to find those pics or else :evillol: !! Actually that's when I'll be asleep. So...NO EXCEPTIONS. I'll have your payment when work is complete :smokin: . L8....

That's a straight rip off of my picture... :(

You're just jealous cause it isn't you in the picture anymore :icon16:. Stop being so selfish. L8...

ehhhhhhhhhh. he still hasn't convinced me. it's too easy to find someone elses mod lists and find some random pictures.

I will pay pal you 20 bucks if you can find those pics anywhere on the web besides at this forum.


to the rest dont worry about giving me a hard time, ill post more of the pics when i get a hold of them

impressive! Love those model Spec-Vs. You got the "skyline" inspired seats? Nice!

Deal. I will definitely find those pictures on another website and you have to pay me $20 via paypal, okay? But! If I do not, I will never post on af.com again. Okay?

I'll go over the rules one more time:

If I, dampachi (aka Tim) find those pictures (the ones posted earlier in the thread and said to be your car) on ANY OTHER WEBSITE ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE WEBIVERSE. YOU TurboSpecV57 will pay me $20 over paypal. Correct?

Or, if you don't, then you'll never post here again :evillol:. Dibs on all of Dampachi's posts :biggrin:. L8...

I'm just waiting for him to agree so I can say "Owned". I need to go set up my paypal account. Woo. What if he agrees and I present, but he wont pay?

I'm just waiting for him to agree so I can say "Owned". I need to go set up my paypal account. Woo. What if he agrees and I present, but he wont pay?

Lmao sounds like you allready know where those pics are.

It doesn't count if you post them on your own website. =]

yeah starcraft!

Id be happier if he had a pic next to the car with "I own you AF" on it.

It doesn't count if you post them on your own website. =]

Way to ruin it, buddy. You owe me $20.

Way to ruin it, buddy. You owe me $20.
Stop trying to scam people Dampachi, no one likes you!

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It actually is refreshing to see a new guy come in with a hooked up car that's not full of it.

Nobody likes me?!!?! But but..I like me. :( And I can't help it. When you street race for money you just turn into a con man. "Why yes of course I am 100% stock..." And yeeeeeuh yo! his car is all hooked up! it's so pimp n shit! son got da hookup! he must know xzibit to get dat much pimpatude!

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=391760

Hmmm. Just proved bullshit does come in all walks.

Look, if everyone was critiqued as hard as you have critiqued this guy, none of us could prove we had a belly button okay? Just let it rest.

And trying to scam people? Wow how can we trust anything you say now? Show us some pics of why we can trust you. Wait, nope that won't work.

I don't want to argue, I just want you to step back and see how you are approaching this and put yourself in his shoes. K?

Hey tha new guy, what car is that in your sig pic? Is that the road-going porsche 962 that they built like, 7 of?

for one, i knew this guy wasn't going to pay regardless. i just thought it'd be funny if i posted the pics on my website and was like SEE, I DID FIND THEM ON ANOTHER SITE. i backed off along time ago. i just said he still hasn't convinced me. i never said he needed to continue to try to prove it to me..i just noted how i'm still in disbelief. as you can see..i never really said anything mean to him. just that he hasn't quite got me convinced. we'll see what happens. as he continues to post i'll eventually believe him. but hell..whats it matter anyway..i'm sure he hasn't lost any sleep over me doubting him. and sure you can trust me. as long as your money isn't involved..you'll be fine. :)

Ok then, what would it take for you to believe?

Or at least to stop posting that you don't...

To make me believe, a video. With signs directed to AF.com.

To make me quit posting about how I don't believe, a swift kick in the ass. :(

swift kick in the ass is all that'll do it?? hell.. i can offer that up.. :biggrin:

*for the record i believe his story and the pics were nice!

Thanks for the complamnts ive spent a lot of time and money on that car and its just the way i like it

now to you dampachi youll get your pics and vids, ive set up a run with an sti and an evo both stock just to have a comparison run, this will proubly go down sometime next week im trying to figure out a vacume problem

i kinda like how my first topic i posted is up to 7 pages

Thanks for the complamnts ive spent a lot of time and money on that car and its just the way i like it

now to you dampachi youll get your pics and vids, ive set up a run with an sti and an evo both stock just to have a comparison run, this will proubly go down sometime next week im trying to figure out a vacume problem



Well I am starting to wonder about you claimed 287 HP on 8-9 PSI. So you start with 175 HP and end with 287. with the only power adding modifications being

Garret T3/T4 hybrid Turbo
Coated 3" Down pipe
3” mid pipe w/ flex tube
Coated Protech hi-velocity manifold
Garrett intercooler (385HP)
3” aluminum turbo inlet pipe
3" custom Exhuast to Mangflow racing edition muffler

Your injectors are just part of having the turbo since you would absoulutly needed them for boost.

so you gained 112 HP on 8 PSI I guess it's dooable but... I would think at more like 12-14 PSI

What trim T3/T4, Saying you have a T3/T4 turbo is like me saying I drive a Buick. Well I say that and people are like "So, my grandma drives a Buick, who gives a shit." Well if I say, "I drive a Buick GRAND NATIONAL." then people are interested.

Im with Damp on this one. Im not saying it isnt his car...Im just not saying it is. I dont need a vid or anything, I'd be happy with just a sign saying AF.com this is my car with you holding it wearing, say, a pink cowboy hat.

Well I am starting to wonder about you claimed 287 HP on 8-9 PSI. So you start with 175 HP and end with 287. with the only power adding modifications being

Garret T3/T4 hybrid Turbo
Coated 3" Down pipe
3” mid pipe w/ flex tube
Coated Protech hi-velocity manifold
Garrett intercooler (385HP)
3” aluminum turbo inlet pipe
3" custom Exhuast to Mangflow racing edition muffler

Your injectors are just part of having the turbo since you would absoulutly needed them for boost.

so you gained 112 HP on 8 PSI I guess it's dooable but... I would think at more like 12-14 PSI

What trim T3/T4, Saying you have a T3/T4 turbo is like me saying I drive a Buick. Well I say that and people are like "So, my grandma drives a Buick, who gives a shit." Well if I say, "I drive a Buick GRAND NATIONAL." then people are interested.


well hypsi, i believe him because of hte pics, but i must add one thing to your comment, you siad he went from 175hp to 287whp. that is not a 112hp gain, that car puts down 140whp stock so its actually a 147whp gain with only 8.5 psi of boost.

I thought the spec v's had 175 stock though?

they do but tats speaks in whp.

So you're a scammer? Well if I can't trust you with money, then I can't trust you at all.

well hypsi, i believe him because of hte pics, but i must add one thing to your comment, you siad he went from 175hp to 287whp. that is not a 112hp gain, that car puts down 140whp stock so its actually a 147whp gain with only 8.5 psi of boost.


I was not saying I did not beleive him.... I was more or less typing the stuff out and doing some math. It's quite impressive to gain that much off of 8.5 PSI

I was not saying I did not beleive him.... I was more or less typing the stuff out and doing some math. It's quite impressive to gain that much off of 8.5 PSI
yes it is, even with the high compression pistons. and it has nothing to do with the displacement. My Starion is a 2.6 4-banger and even with that and increase of 8.5 lbs would not give me an extra 145HP! the only reason I am not going to call BS is because I do have low compression pistons and therefore it would not be comparing apples to apples.
I gotta tell you though, you know you have a hell of a car when half the AF street racing board dossent believe you!

Edit: your post is now up to 8 pages. way to go!

Not necessarily a hell of a car...but just lack of proof of having the car. But yeah..when you show us some more proof I'll definitely be the first one to apologize.

damn dampachi, give him a break. Sheazus.

well the spec puts down 148whp, thats what it dynoed at before we started this project

the turbo is a 50 trim

im hitting the dyno up again on saturday and im going to get some vids of it

it sure is nice to have an uncle with a mustang dyno and tune shop, he recently got some stuff to do hondata so buissness has trippled

ps i dont know if any of you know this but its scary as hell to get tuned on a mustang dyno, your pointing at the wall going 90 :shakehead ......

whoa you got 148whp stock on a mustang dyno? and got 287 whp on a mustang dyno on only 8.5 psi?

1) your are is readly reading higher then average whp, and on the mustang dyno which is notorious for reading low makes it even higher. so technically speaking your car on a regular dyno would be close to 160whp stock. that is very ahrd to believe.

2) this also means your 287whp will atleast be 300whp on a regular dyno. hmmmm

well its true that mustang dynos normally read lower especially that the ever optimistic dynojets. But there is another factor that can change the results by quite a bit: the correction factors used by whomever was manning that dyno.

oooooooh. the plot thickens.

oooooooh. the plot thickens.

lol dampachi wants nothing more then the turbo spec-v guy to be all "OK OK you got me, dampachi was right, and is all that is holy, and you are all idiots for believeing me you should of just listened to the all knowing dampachi." Then he will be happy again.

dude. i'm always happy. i really couldn't give a shit less if he popped in and was like OKAY, YOU GUYS GOT ME..MY SHIT ACTUALLY RUNS 9s, LOOK AT MY VIDEO YO. Like I probably already said. I ain't losing sleep.

ive never new that the numbers were that different, i knew that there was a degree of corection but i didnt think that it when the other way, i was lead to belive that they read high....

anyway i think almost any dynos different, you never always get the same numbers

im getting retuned tommrow at a different place up in dayton that is offering me a great deal and knows a lot more then my uncle about tuning imports

i hope that this will be the deciding factor

Yeah but have you guys seen how Dampachi reacts to the Mustang owners. when 1993_GT posted his first track run everyone was like "wow dude, show us some proof". Damapachi was like "nah man, I believe him, I dont know why but I believe him yo" and we where all like "damn Mustang owners".

wish i had some sentra owners to support me..... lol

wish i had some sentra owners to support me..... lol
If you continue to provide proof of your HP gain, I guess you'll make all the doubters feel that much more foolish. Bear with us...

dont worry i will

well musashi..for one, he wasn't a noob saying that stuff. second..i did doubt him all the way up until i realized how possible it was. it's because he was running 1.9s on street tires, right? right after i read that thread i read a big write up on stangnet.com or maybe modulardepot.com about how cutting 1.9s with street tires/stock suspension is very possible on mustangs. so then after looking at his mods, and his timeslips, and what he was saying..it became apparent that he was telling the truth. this guys got five pictures, some really big claims..and nothing else to really back it up. i don't see how he can't present good pictures/maybe video. doesn't everyone have or atleast have access to a digital camera or video camera? I mean..unless you have no friends at all and you're broke..then you have no excuse for not being able to get your shit filmed or get pictures of it. And I know it's not that he's broke...he's got some crazy modded sentra. oh well.