impreza vs camaro

okay heres the story. i was driving home last night at about 2:00am, there was nobody else on the road. i come up behind a newer z28 doing about 55-60mph, so of course i pass him to keep my speed of 75-80mph. well no problem there, the guy just kept driving 60 the whole time i passed him, then suddenly he decides that he didnt like me passing him so here he comes. ive dropped to about 70mph just cruising cuz we were watching a movie, all of a sudden i notice him right behind me and passing me. i let him get beside me, then drop to 4th when he is right next to me and floor it. well of course hes already got a 10-15mph advantage on me so theres no way in hell im gonna keep him from getting around me. but im behind him, trying my best to keep up. at the end of this straight stretch there are 2 long sweeping corners, 1st to the right then to the left. when he gets to the 1st corner he is about 5-6 lengths ahead of me, i see him tap his brakes to slow down enough to enter, when i get there i just keep my foot on the floor. by the middle of the 1st corner i have made up all 6 lengths and am right on his bumper. u can tell hes having problems, his car look really unstable and jerky, hes going about 95mph and im just sticking to his bumper. when we get out of the corner theres a short straight before the next one, he pulls maybe 2 lengths in front of me there, but i easily made it up when we entered the corner. im still just trying to stick to his bumper, hes really having problems there are little pieces of dirt and gravel shooting out from under his tires and i swear i saw his back end break loose for a split second. he moves over into the left lane (inside) to try and lessen the corner, so i see this as my chance to take him, i put my foot down and begin to pass him on the outside. when we get to the end of the corner his front end was about 3 feet behind my front end, i was doing approximately 110mph and hes about 100-105mph. now were on a long straightaway, it takes him a moment to make up the 10 or so mph i have on him, but then he begins to pull again and gets back in front of me. he pulls a few lengths ahead, then hits his brakes and quits, i get up behind him then i quit too. before the end of the straight stretch he turns off into a driveway, which sucks for me cuz there was a killer set of corners coming up and he was going down. :devil:

wait till i get some real hp so he cant leave me on the straights cuz i was smoking his ass in the corners.

way to go, at a distance of 3 feet that stupid slowmaro owner could have hit one patch of gravel and finished you both off as well as any passenger inside either car.
than would it really have been worth it to see who is the better driver?

Not a bad run. The z28s are pretty fast in a straight line, but get them into a curve and they handle like a barge. Now if it was me in my Cobra then it would have been a different story. The mustang cobras are not only fast in a straight line, but have special suspension and are very capable curve carvers. You never would have gotten with in ten car lenghts of me. You better slap on some hp, to play with the sports cars.

Actually a camaro has better grip than your year mustang does stock, so learn what your talking about. The 99+ cobra's have the IRS or independent rear suspension, and they are the only car in that class that has that.

professor, you are the kinda guy that buys every motortrend magazine and than thinks he knows how all those cars drive because that's what those guys say, right?
i have two friends with identical 94 pontiac trans am's, one is a formula the other is a t/a. both are 6 speed, both ride on a 245 width tires and neither one can handle worth it's weight pennies. they are big, heavy boats with nothing but straightline speed as the primary goal.
i have owned myself a 90 Gt mustang, and it was very, very nimble and quick when driven under the right circumstances.
his mustang is not only 4 years newer, but i know they outhandle the f-body chebbies because i have driven both and bagged on both thoroughly.
on top of that, he doesn't just have a regular mustang. it's a cobra, ford's way of saying WS6.
so maybe quit reading books and get into the driver's seat of some real automobiles. see for yourself which suck and which don't and than base your statements on personal experience rather than someone elses.

Trust me i know mustangs, this is my fourth. Where do you get your info about better grip? The camaro sucks on the skid pad. Besides, the the IRS on the 99 and newer cobra is plauged with wheel hop problems. So, with a decent suspension a live axle is the best. So, before you make stupid comments, do some research.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Trust me i know mustangs, this is my fourth. Where do you get your info about better grip? The camaro sucks on the skid pad. Besides, the the IRS on the 99 and newer cobra is plauged with wheel hop problems. So, with a decent suspension a live axle is the best. So, before you make stupid comments, do some research.

u should also do some research if u think youre gonna outcorner my car unless u got heavily modified suspension.

I'm sorry, but the only mustang related vehicle that could ever out handle an impreza is an S7, and that thing ain't no mustang, it's got a mustang block, and thats it.

nah the SVT cobra R can out handle the stock impreza. but then agian. only 500 was made. and nice race delaysion. can always count on you for nice detailed races.

I donno about Mustang Vs. 'Maro handeling, but I'm afraid that unless your in an SVT the subbie has um in the corners. Now straight line there may be trouble :D That all goes by the wayside if you have done suspension work and have put new rubber on it:rolleyes:

Originally posted by TatII
SVT cobra R

man i was cruising friday night and i saw this mustang coming down the road with a bunch of stickers and a butt ugly spoiler and i laughed and said "look at the ricey mustang" but when it got closer i realized it was a cobra r and the stickers were nitrous express... glad i didnt try to pull out with him and play with him when i thought it was a riced out one!

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


man i was cruising friday night and i saw this mustang coming down the road with a bunch of stickers and a butt ugly spoiler and i laughed and said "look at the ricey mustang" but when it got closer i realized it was a cobra r and the stickers were nitrous express... glad i didnt try to pull out with him and play with him when i thought it was a riced out one!

Lol, kinda what happened to a friend of mine in his WRX. We saw a riced out Supra and went up to play with him. To bad for my friend the TT badge wasn't rice :D

trust me my 94 svt cobra could out run the subaru. No need to state that i would easily smoke it on the straights, and the svt supension would stay with it in the curves, keeping the subaru in the rearview. The nitto 555 zr stick like glue, got 265/35/18 in the back and 245/40/18 in the front. Now the WRX would be a bit more of a challange, but the straight aways would still make the difference.

i have no doubt that if it was curvy enough u wouldnt keep up with me. i have asked several people since yesterday and even a fellow mustang owner and even he admits that his mustang wouldnt keep up with me through corners even if he had good lowering springs and shocks and badass tires.

ldelaysionl: what mods have you done to your car now? oh yea, nice race.

94svt5.0: if you guys raced in the same place ldelaysiol did with the camaro, i do not think you would have won. According to www.edmunds.com, your car has 240 hp and 285 lb/ft stock. With your mods, you probaly have another 15-20hp? A stock LS1 z28 has over 300 hp and runs low 13's stock(with a good driver). So I'm pretty sure the LS1 z28 is faster than your corbra in a straightline. Therefore, the WRX would close in on you much quicker and would have an easier time passing you. The WRX also would have an advantage over you because of his AWD in the loose conditions.


my 2 cents.

Originally posted by fatninja19
ldelaysionl: what mods have you done to your car now? oh yea, nice race.

94svt5.0: if you guys raced in the same place ldelaysiol did with the camaro, i do not think you would have won. According to www.edmunds.com, your car has 240 hp and 285 lb/ft stock. With your mods, you probaly have another 15-20hp? A stock LS1 z28 has over 300 hp and runs low 13's stock(with a good driver). So I'm pretty sure the LS1 z28 is faster than your corbra in a straightline. Therefore, the WRX would close in on you much quicker and would have an easier time passing you. The WRX also would have an advantage over you because of his AWD in the loose conditions.


my 2 cents.

ey ? didn;t understand any of that

o by the way idelyson's car is a 2.5 RS

my car is the 2.5 non-turbo, my only mods performance wise are intake and exhaust.

i have no doubt at all that on a straight enough road this guys cobra would kick my ass, but i also have no doubtr that on a twisty enough road it would be the other way around, even with his "special cobra suspension"

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
my car is the 2.5 non-turbo, my only mods performance wise are intake and exhaust.

i have no doubt at all that on a straight enough road this guys cobra would kick my ass, but i also have no doubtr that on a twisty enough road it would be the other way around, even with his "special cobra suspension"

damn straight

all mustangs all heavy and if a 22B can easily out do a porsche 911 in a bunch of corners on a country without even trying then so could a 2.5RS .....do you have a LSD idelaysionl?

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
do you have a LSD idelaysionl?

center viscous coupling lsd.

ummm, maybe i missed something, but since when could subaru wagons out handle anything?
like, is there any websites i can look up that would help me find the difference between a subaru wagon with awd and a toyota corolla wagon with awd?
it just must be because i have never, ever heard or seen anything like that happen in my entire life that i ask this...i know those cars are race-bred for rallying and stuff but pavement is alot different from snow and gravel.

what car(s) do you own chebbie?

Originally posted by chebbiesux
ummm, maybe i missed something, but since when could subaru wagons out handle anything?
like, is there any websites i can look up that would help me find the difference between a subaru wagon with awd and a toyota corolla wagon with awd?
it just must be because i have never, ever heard or seen anything like that happen in my entire life that i ask this...i know those cars are race-bred for rallying and stuff but pavement is alot different from snow and gravel.

perhaps u should attend an autocross, where some people refer to the "stock" class as the "subaru" class. ;) or just drive one for yourself.

With my mods the car is making about 300 hp @ flywheel, i have out dragged camaros plenty of time. I also no a guy with around the same mods on his 94 cobra and it runs 12.8 in the 1/4. Do your reading guys, the cobra suspension is much better then some lowering springs on a GT mustang, and the brake system is the very same one used on the cobra R. The subaru would probably hang in the turns, but the power difference, would make the difference.

Originally posted by chebbiesux
ummm, maybe i missed something, but since when could subaru wagons out handle anything?
like, is there any websites i can look up that would help me find the difference between a subaru wagon with awd and a toyota corolla wagon with awd?
it just must be because i have never, ever heard or seen anything like that happen in my entire life that i ask this...i know those cars are race-bred for rallying and stuff but pavement is alot different from snow and gravel. i don't want to give you a heart attack or anything but rally's are run on pavement, oh yes its possible. check it our for yourself, http://www.rallyzone.com/ the Catalunya Rally was held just last weekend and its on pavement. from my experience with 4WD and AWD they handle like a dream especially when the elements are nasty.

Originally posted by chebbiesux
ummm, maybe i missed something, but since when could subaru wagons out handle anything?
like, is there any websites i can look up that would help me find the difference between a subaru wagon with awd and a toyota corolla wagon with awd?
it just must be because i have never, ever heard or seen anything like that happen in my entire life that i ask this...i know those cars are race-bred for rallying and stuff but pavement is alot different from snow and gravel.

Lol, I understand chebbie:p It is supprising but the little buggers can handle like a champ. The WRXs aswell. They have been put through a hard youth in rally compatition and have grown up to be quite the car. Oh, and there are alot of rally races that are all asphalt too.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
With my mods the car is making about 300 hp @ flywheel, i have out dragged camaros plenty of time. I also no a guy with around the same mods on his 94 cobra and it runs 12.8 in the 1/4. Do your reading guys, the cobra suspension is much better then some lowering springs on a GT mustang, and the brake system is the very same one used on the cobra R. The subaru would probably hang in the turns, but the power difference, would make the difference.

Look out! 300HP!

And only 265 of rubber on rears? Is that supposed to be a lot?

Originally posted by Gtr2.7L


Look out! 300HP!

And only 265 of rubber on rears? Is that supposed to be a lot?

Rofl :hehehe: Its ok, he's handicaped... He doesn't have a GTR :D :D

nah j/k You just spoiled 'cause you have one:rolleyes: You have to remember, not every one else packs heat and puts it to the ground with devastating quickness;)

Hmmm, I dont remeber saying i made more hp then everybody else, but o well. So how much hp is the Gtr putting to the road?

280 :devil: www.exvitermini.com

for a stock one.....haven't seen many of those though:) Most of my friends have the intake, exhaust, boost controller mods (about 800 USD) and are putting down about 350 to the road (397-402 at the crank)....

didn't mean to bust your chops 5.0....I was just shocked to learn a '94 stock Cobra only put down some 240HP!

Hey, uhhh, GTR2.7L... your from Japan... do you think you can send me a R34... any model would be fine... always wanted to try one out. I'll send you money!:D

I can pick you up a used R34 for about 30,000....less than 25k miles. But you'll have to pay
Motorex the 25k for U.S. conversion and shipping. Let me know....

ya, stock 94-95 cobras only make 240 hp, but that was decent for 1994. The 96-98 cobras make 305hp and the 99-2002 make 320 hp. But, for 2003 the cobra makes 390hp. By the way there are very few stock cobras out there. The 94-95 are easily modefied due to the large volume of parts.

strange, someone named riceboy driving a firebird...

5.0: you have 300 hp with just a chip, h-pipe, and a cold air intake???? it sounds unlikely that you gain 60 hp with those three mods... but then again, what do I know? I drive a MPV.hahahahaha

its a rough estimate.

Originally posted by fatninja19
5.0: you have 300 hp with just a chip, h-pipe, and a cold air intake???? it sounds unlikely that you gain 60 hp with those three mods... but then again, what do I know? I drive a MPV.hahahahaha

it's quite easy to get large gains on those huge engines... so i'm not surprised if it's like that at all.

THERE IS NO WAY IN YOUR LIFETIME THAT A FORD, NO NO EVEN BETTER A MUSTANG WILL OUTHANDLE A SUBARU.

IF YOU WANNA TRY YOUR STANG AGIANST MY WRX ON THE HWY AND CORNERS BE MY GUEST. JUST FOR YOU YOULL GET ALL THE BOOST IN THE APEX AND THEN ON THE STRAIGHTAWAY.

A FOD RUSTANG CAN NEVER TOUCH AND ALL WHELL DRIVE CAR IN THE CORNERS..NEVER.

Originally posted by Super Spec V
THERE IS NO WAY IN YOUR LIFETIME THAT A FORD, NO NO EVEN BETTER A MUSTANG WILL OUTHANDLE A SUBARU.

IF YOU WANNA TRY YOUR STANG AGIANST MY WRX ON THE HWY AND CORNERS BE MY GUEST. JUST FOR YOU YOULL GET ALL THE BOOST IN THE APEX AND THEN ON THE STRAIGHTAWAY.

A FOD RUSTANG CAN NEVER TOUCH AND ALL WHELL DRIVE CAR IN THE CORNERS..NEVER.

Now I'm no mustang addict, in fact (sorry guys, just my opinion :D ) I don't like them that much. But a Cobra will give a WRX a run for it's money in th 1/4 (I've ridden in a friends WRX racing many many many mustangs) if you want to mod the 'stang and do it right they will pull on the WRX. Now as for handeling, I was arguing with SkylineUSA about this and he provided evidence that an LX could handle the slolom in times that would keep up with an R34 GTR, so I beleave it could keep up with the scoob:bloated: If driven right that is;)

YOU CAN PUT THE BEST DRIVER THERE IS INA RUSTANG, AND A FRESH NEWBIE WHO JUST GOT HIS LICENSE IN A SCOOBY, AND THE GUY DRIVING THE RUSTANG WILL LOOSE.

IN THE CORNERS A RUSTANG HAS NO CHANCE IN HISTORY TO COM CLOSE TO A SCOOBY.

IF YOU UP THE POWER ON A SCOOBY TO THE SAME AS A RUSTANG, THE RUSTANG WILL LOOSE IN THE QUARTER.

:smoker2:

Originally posted by Super Spec V
YOU CAN PUT THE BEST DRIVER THERE IS INA RUSTANG, AND A FRESH NEWBIE WHO JUST GOT HIS LICENSE IN A SCOOBY, AND THE GUY DRIVING THE RUSTANG WILL LOOSE.

IN THE CORNERS A RUSTANG HAS NO CHANCE IN HISTORY TO COM CLOSE TO A SCOOBY.

IF YOU UP THE POWER ON A SCOOBY TO THE SAME AS A RUSTANG, THE RUSTANG WILL LOOSE IN THE QUARTER.

:smoker2:

I could sit here and argue with you about this all day, so I'll just say this.

Prove it I'd like to see some test results.

*Edit*
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Grip-Box.pdf

Just for the sake of ease of comparison, lets take the 600ft Slalom results. Now if you are prepaired to tell me that your rex with no suspension work will take a Hennessy Venom 650R or even a F355 then... Well I donno what to say, besides BS!!

THERE IS NO NEED TO PROVE OR ARGUE ABOUT ANYTHING. ANYONE WHO HAS DRIVEN HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS AND KNOWS WHAT TAKING CORNERS IS ALL ABOUT KNOWS THAT NO RUSTANG CAN KEEP UP WITH A SCOOBY IN THE CORNERS.

YOU WANT PROOF COME TO SHANNONVILLE RACEWAY WHEN WE RACE MOSPORT AND YOU WILL SEE PLENTY FORD MUSCLE HEADS THERE WITH THIER RUSTANGS VERY VERY VERY FAR AWAY BEHIND THE REST OF THE PACK. MY PROOF IS KNOWING CAUSE I GO THERE TO RACE. I HAVE WITH MY 99 2.5RS, MY 92 GOLF 2.0L 16V, AND WITH MY 91 BMW 3.25, AND ALL OF THE CARS THAT I DROVE THERE HAD NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER BLOWING PAST RUSTANGS.

SO MY LAST WORDS TO YOU ARE:

BRING ON YOUR MUSTANG TO THE CIRCUIT WITH WHATEVER KIND OF SUSPENSION YOU WANT (BRING YOUR FREINDS RUSTANGS TOO), AND I WILL BRING THE SCOOBY CREW WITH OUR CARS AND WE'LL SEE WHO IS THE LAST ONES TO THE FINISH LINE.

OH THAT IS IF YOU DONT WIPE OUT AFTER THE 2ND OR 3RD TURN TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH US.

Originally posted by Super Spec V
THERE IS NO NEED TO PROVE OR ARGUE ABOUT ANYTHING. ANYONE WHO HAS DRIVEN HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS AND KNOWS WHAT TAKING CORNERS IS ALL ABOUT KNOWS THAT NO RUSTANG CAN KEEP UP WITH A SCOOBY IN THE CORNERS.

YOU WANT PROOF COME TO SHANNONVILLE RACEWAY WHEN WE RACE MOSPORT AND YOU WILL SEE PLENTY FORD MUSCLE HEADS THERE WITH THIER RUSTANGS VERY VERY VERY FAR AWAY BEHIND THE REST OF THE PACK. MY PROOF IS KNOWING CAUSE I GO THERE TO RACE. I HAVE WITH MY 99 2.5RS, MY 92 GOLF 2.0L 16V, AND WITH MY 91 BMW 3.25, AND ALL OF THE CARS THAT I DROVE THERE HAD NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER BLOWING PAST RUSTANGS.

SO MY LAST WORDS TO YOU ARE:

BRING ON YOUR MUSTANG TO THE CIRCUIT WITH WHATEVER KIND OF SUSPENSION YOU WANT (BRING YOUR FREINDS RUSTANGS TOO), AND I WILL BRING THE SCOOBY CREW WITH OUR CARS AND WE'LL SEE WHO IS THE LAST ONES TO THE FINISH LINE.

OH THAT IS IF YOU DONT WIPE OUT AFTER THE 2ND OR 3RD TURN TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH US.

Ok, first of all, you keep saying "RUSTANG" what mustang are you talking about? GT, Standard V6, LX, Cobra, Saleen...???

Second of all, I do know what taking corners is all about, it's about road holding and turn in. These things can be boiled down into numbers in the 600ft slalom (check my edited post above).

Fancy a hill climb?
Virginia Hill Climb:
1. Amir Rosenbaum, 3.25.371 F40
2. Guy Cunningham, 3.26.082 Mustang
3. Dennis Chiodo, 3.32.063 Viper ACR
4. Ori Rosenbaum, 3.32.348 Viper
5. David Wilson, 3.33.441 F355

Now incase you failed to understand this, I am not "dissing" the scoob, I like them! But the facts stand that these blind and unsubstantiated claims don't stand. If you want to show me some lap times of professional drivers in a WRX vs those of a professional driver in a Mustang (GT, LX, Cobra, whatever) then you are having an intelligent debate about somthing and if you end up showing me that I'm wrong so be it.

Oh, and just a tip, if you don't use all caps and refrain from making broad generalzations, it tends to lend creed to your arguement.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO PROVIDE YOU WITH LAP TIMES AND SLALOM TIMES, HOWEVER I STILL BELEIVE AND COULD BET MY BALLS THAT A MUSTANG WILL NEVER BEAT A SCOOBY IN SLALOM OR CIRCUIT. NASCAR YES BUT ALL OTHERS NO.


BTW SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT I NEED THEM ON FOR WORK PURPOSES. IM ALWAYS SWITCHING BETWEEN THE FORUM AND MY JOB, SO I JUST LEAVE THEM ON.

I'm sorry, but your wrong. You put a professional driver in ANYTHING! I don't care if it's a tercel with bald tires, they will still beat a shitty driver in a WRX, or any other car for that matter.

Simply because as soon as they get to the first corner the shitty driver is just gonna spin out and go off the track.

Spec V, did I read correctly that you think a WRX can out do the cobra in the 1/4?. Stop stateing opinion and look at the facts. Compare same years, the 2002 WRX runs a 14.1 in the 1/4, while the 2002 cobra runs a 13.5 in the 1/4. These are times submitted by Car and Driver magazine. The cobra out powers the WRX in almost every category. Granted though the all wheel drive system on the wrx would have advantages in isolated circumstances such as snow, rain and mud. Who takes a sports car out in these conditions. So super spec, stop your uneducated rambling. Bring facts and we will talk.

wrx's aren't THAT fast.
it's obvious you have never driven an actually powerful vehicle if you think a 227 hp 4 door sedan is an incredibly fast car.
my buddy's t/a ran a 14.6 (94 t/a 5.7 with intake and headers, 6 speed) and when we raced a wrx on the street we wiped the floor with it. it stayed with us until the light went green.

and until you get some proof otherwise, you better refrain from calling us morons

Originally posted by chebbiesux
wrx's aren't THAT fast.
it's obvious you have never driven an actually powerful vehicle if you think a 227 hp 4 door sedan is an incredibly fast car.
my buddy's t/a ran a 14.6 (94 t/a 5.7 with intake and headers, 6 speed) and when we raced a wrx on the street we wiped the floor with it. it stayed with us until the light went green.


You said it man, some people are as bad about WRXs as some are about Skylines. Just think it can eat everything :rolleyes: Hell, even a Torus SHO can keep up with a WRX. Even off the line, SHO pulls through 3rd, gone in 4th :D:p (Oh yes, and I've seen it happen... Several times:silly2: )

FIRST OF ALL I NEVER CALLED ANY ONE A MORON, AND SECOND OF ALL I WAS REFERRING THE WRXS CAPABILITIES IN HANDLING VS THE COBRA NOT 1/4 MILES TIMES, AND WHAT I SAID WAS THAT IF THE WRX HAD THE SAME POWER IN TERMS OF HP AS A COBRA, THE COBRA WOULD LOOSE, SO YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

SECOND OF ALL IF YOUR COBRA IS SOO FAST OR YOU STANG OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE, AND YOU EVER PLAN TO MAKE A TRIP TO ONTARIO FOR A DRAG IMPORT LET ME KNOW CAUSE I HAVE A SUPRISE FOR YOUR MUSTANG WITH MY WRX. IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH WITH YOUR STANG AND TA, THEN MAKE SURE YOUR READY CAUSE IN A FEW WEEKS ILL BE MORE THAN READY FOR YOUR STANG TA, CIVIC, WHATEVER YOU BRING WILL GET POPPED.

Seriously, how old are you Spec V? man stfu, your given us rex owners a bad name. You made the stupidest comment ever in saying "If the wrx had the same power in terms of HP as a cobra, the cobra would loose" Buddy, the same could be said for a corolla, or a civic. If THEY had the same hp they would be kicking ass as well. Some people should think before they type....:rolleyes:

Grow up spec V...........please!

I would like to let everyone know that if you dont like what im saying then pm me and we can discuss it there, not here in the forum. the forum is a place where discussions and disputes happen, a place where people come to learn, ask questions and post opignions, not a place where people get bashed. if you wanna bash me then do it in the pm, at least there i will have respect for you, because it would be the same as approaching me one on one, not in the forum like a little pussy, hoping that someone will take your side on what you say.

If you have a problem, then tell me dont me a suck about it.

You tell me to grow up. I have long before you have. And i have balls unlike you.

so dont be bitches with pussys. Be men with balls.

Originally posted by Super Spec V
I would like to let everyone know that if you dont like what im saying then pm me and we can discuss it there, not here in the forum. the forum is a place where discussions and disputes happen, a place where people come to learn, ask questions and post opignions, not a place where people get bashed. if you wanna bash me then do it in the pm, at least there i will have respect for you, because it would be the same as approaching me one on one, not in the forum like a little pussy, hoping that someone will take your side on what you say.

If you have a problem, then tell me dont me a suck about it.

You tell me to grow up. I have long before you have. And i have balls unlike you.

so dont be bitches with pussys. Be men with balls.

I'd have to agree with auswrx, you are giving rex owner's a bad rep. You don't sound too bright either, because if it weren't for bitches with pussys, men wouldn't have any use for their balls. Unless they were gay. So stop crying about how someone expressed their opinion about you. Here is me expressing my opinion right now. Talk about cars and stop whining.

You too, you too are a MUT.

Get a life.

You brand car owners like cow afarmers. (hey dont buy cows from them they got a bad name) shut up.

You dont even know me.

nad for your info im probally more educated than you are. I have a respectable job with IBM Corp, and probally making more money than you are you shit head, so dont judge a book by its cover.

You guys make me laugh (give wrx owners a bad name) you people are too serious about this shit.

Maybe you both need to get a job and a life too.

BTW what do you know about pussy, you've probally never fuc*ed one before. Unless you got lucky with your little cheese dick.

Originally posted by Super Spec V
You too, you too are a MUT.

Get a life.

You brand car owners like cow afarmers. (hey dont buy cows from them they got a bad name) shut up.

You dont even know me.

nad for your info im probally more educated than you are. I have a respectable job with IBM Corp, and probally making more money than you are you shit head, so dont judge a book by its cover.

You guys make me laugh (give wrx owners a bad name) you people are too serious about this shit.

Maybe you both need to get a job and a life too.

BTW what do you know about pussy, you've probally never fuc*ed one before. Unless you got lucky with your little cheese dick.

And you're talking about judging a book by its cover? Just because you are the head janitor oops, im sorry, custodian, at IBM, doesn't mean you are somebody. AND how do you figure you are more educated than me? To quote you, you dont know me. Also, I'd appreciate it if you didnt talk about my dick again, I know it probably excites you. But lets try and post stuff about racing in here, and keep your personal life out of this.

OK I GIVE UP.

IVE REALIZED THAT WHEN YOUR BORN AND RAISED IN A TRAILER PARK YOU TEND TO HAVE ALOT OF ISSUES WHEN YOUR OLDER, SO IVE ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT YOUR A LOG ROLLER AND NEED TO RENOVATE YOUR TRAILER....I MEAN CAR....I MEAN HOUSE.

See super spec, that is why people are calling you an idiot, instead of supporting your argument with meaningful facts you make childish dick jokes.

You say your smarter then everyone here because you make more money, wait no, we have no proof of that seeing as how you don't actually know anyone who you are referring to so how about we say you make a lot of money?

Big whoop-dee-freaking-doo.

Bush makes more then everyone here combined and he's still probably one of the top candidates for stupidest man alive.

Oh yeah, and a wrx could beat a cobra in the 1/4 if it had the same power? who cares, hell a geo metro would beat a cobra if it had the same power simply because it weighs less.

Gentlemen Gentlemen! Lets keep this war a war about cars :D

Super Spec V: Perhaps you should practice what you preach and continue any disputes about anything other then cars in PM, as you suggested.


Now about handeling, I posted info before about it, read up on it, tell me you think you can outhandle 355s and Venom 650Rs. If you do that then I will know to take anything you ever say agian with several grains of salt.

Anyhow, this is silly. Everyone has stated their opinion, some people have brought facts to the table, I suggest that the certian person who has not backed up his wild claims should being forth some evidence to substantiate them:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Gonthrax
Now about handeling, I posted info before about it, read up on it, tell me you think you can outhandle 355s and Venom 650Rs.

i sure as hell couldnt. my car handles good and all, but i know its limitations. its a good car, buts its not the all mighty god car. i could post a list of 30 cars that would outhandle an impreza on dry pavement right now off the top of my head, and im sure a lot more if i thought about it.

although i do disagree with u saying a taurus sho will pull away from a wrx, as i have raced a new sho and the previous one and beat both by over 3 tenths at the strip. maybe u were talking about a modded sho? :confused:

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


i sure as hell couldnt. my car handles good and all, but i know its limitations. its a good car, buts its not the all mighty god car. i could post a list of 30 cars that would outhandle an impreza on dry pavement right now off the top of my head, and im sure a lot more if i thought about it.

although i do disagree with u saying a taurus sho will pull away from a wrx, as i have raced a new sho and the previous one and beat both by over 3 tenths at the strip. maybe u were talking about a modded sho? :confused:

Actually it was bone stock, I saw under the hood. The owner is a really good driver though, and the WRX driver hadn't learned how to pop through the gears as well as he could:rolleyes: The SHO guy said he ran high 14s at the strip so I'm pretty sure it was driver related. Just thought it was kinda funny, my friend is afraid of all SHOs now :D

Originally posted by Gonthrax


Actually it was bone stock, I saw under the hood. The owner is a really good driver though, and the WRX driver hadn't learned how to pop through the gears as well as he could:rolleyes: The SHO guy said he ran high 14s at the strip so I'm pretty sure it was driver related. Just thought it was kinda funny, my friend is afraid of all SHOs now :D

alright i can see how that happened... that is kinda funny. :cwn27: