Honda civic si concept

Have any of you guys seen the new civic si concept? It looks crazy i will try yo get pics up here for u guys. From the factory it came with a carbon fiber hood, shaved door handles, rims, big brakes Brembo??, nice looking functional wing, 200hp DOHC i-VTEC motor, with a 6 speed tranny to put the power to the ground.

I know there are a couple threads around here with pictures and stuff for the car but hey if youve found some new ones post them up!

Keep in mind though this thing is a concept, its not going to be exactly like that when it rolls off the assembly line. It should be toned down a little bit, but hopefully not too much.

Yea I got to see the car in person at the NYC autoshow last week took mad pics..The car that was there was just a shell 2 pipe axels connecting 2 wheels. The inside of the car had nothing in it at all. I spoke to the Honda guy there and he said the car is being produced right now they have many working models..It will be 90% what you see. Minus the wheels, brakes, black hood and roof door handles. So basically the body is staying the same not sure about the center exhaust but I am VERY sure that will change. But the car makes its debute at SEMA in NOV and will also be on sale to the public that month. I'm hearing NAVI might be an option ....

thats crazy i am going to the show tommorow NYC Javits center


http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=honda+civic+si+concept/v=2/SID=e/l=IVS/SIG=12h2fhia3/EXP=1112479589/*-http%3A//www.terra.com.hn/addon/img/noticias/17dce35toyotap.jpg

Yea I got to see the car in person at the NYC autoshow last week took mad pics..The car that was there was just a shell 2 pipe axels connecting 2 wheels. The inside of the car had nothing in it at all. I spoke to the Honda guy there and he said the car is being produced right now they have many working models..It will be 90% what you see. Minus the wheels, brakes, black hood and roof door handles. So basically the body is staying the same not sure about the center exhaust but I am VERY sure that will change. But the car makes its debute at SEMA in NOV and will also be on sale to the public that month. I'm hearing NAVI might be an option ....

If any of the pics turned out decent post em up in here.

^^ Sure dude I'll shoot them up after work and post them in this thread..

Yes post those pics asap


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Nice! I think I was 4 :evillol:

Had a link with a video and sound clip of the production model..
But the link no longer works..The car sounds just like the RSX
Type S. Here is a pic of under the car and som others

EDIT: here are some of my pics form the NY Auto Show

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/Copy2ofPicture039.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/CopyofPicture041.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/CopyofPicture042.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/Copy2ofPicture038.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/318144siunder.jpg

*BUMP*
Word is according to VTEC.net that the car is deffinitly looking like that minus the wheels, brakes and they arent sure about the headlights..But the spoiler is a go..But it will be shortened because of visability reasons. Can anyone grab a pic of the Honda City and the other Honda over in Japan( that we dont have here), cause they took the tail lights directly off of it..Check it out if you have time.

crap, I could really care less about the wheels, but the brakes and headlights need to stay.

I've also gotten word that the new RSX will be putting out 215hp now.

New RSX I thought they cut it from the lineup?
Ugh ....

nope, not going to get rid of the RSX. I'll try to find the article again. But pretty much the rep was saying why would they kill a line up that makes them so much money. It would be senseless

Hmm...intersting. I'll still reserve judgemnt until I see a production model. The new Eclispe still "looks" like the concept...I mean, the body is a direct lift...but it still looks different. No where near as nice. Concepts do a great job at what they are suppose to do...gain attention and gauge what people think of the idea.

I agree the brakes would be nice but they arn't going to keep Bremebo Big Brakes on a production civic...no way. If they changed the headlights (since you mentioned they arn't sure yet) then it might s well be a different car from the front end, since the whole design will change. As for the spolier being smaller....I'm glad...I hate spoilers.

It'd be interstingif they kept the center exhuast but fat chance on that. Again, it'll change the look of the back and bottom of the rear bumper. The concept is interesting...but I'll reserve judgement and won't execpt anything until I see the production model. I'd be suprised if they changed the LOOK of the headlights. Maybe like the Ecplise, can the light source (like Mitsu canned the weird LED lighting, the I'd be suprised it the shape didn't hold true.

Speculations D17's in the VP-DX-LX and K's across the board for the rest.

127hp Civic VP/DX/LX - average persons base model civic
160hp Civic EX - Inexpensive RSX variant with a 4 door option
200hp Civic Si - Cheaper variant of the RSX-S, without all the fancy options
160hp RSX - More luxurious version of the Civic EX
210hp RSX-S - More luxurious version of the Civic Si

shit, might as well get a Civic now instead of an RSX. Unless there are some other performance options available for it that aren't with the Civic.

probably things like leather, navigation, prettier inside stuff but that will probably be it. If the si gets lsd and the rsx-s doesnt then im pretty sure they can kiss that model goodbye

those aren't performance options though. I'm sure the dealers will at least offer leather, but crap like Navi etc. I can live without.

Navi dont really need but the navi screen will come in handy for turbo applications to monitor activity. I would like to see HIDs those.

Honda March 05 sales figures.
Check out Acuras numbers very low. This is why the RSX is history..

http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=343350

You know...with all this talk of the RSX...it makes you wonder...what did they expect...people to respond WELL to a name change of one of their most popular models. I mean, it's still teh Integra on every other continent..but no....we call it the RSX. Changing a name effects public of perception of the product. Never understood the name change, and never liked it. I mean think about it. If they changed the name of the civic....it wouldn't go over wll and in the end may hurt tuner sales...can't help but wonder with the RSX... :2cents:

Thought this was cool check it out..

http://www.civicnation.ca/en/civic_si_concept/splash.html

It's still fwd :disappoin

Wow bob, did you figure that out all by yourself. Your intellect exceeds that of anyone else here, please, go slowly with us from now on. Flat out telling us that it is fwd is just too much for our minds to handle at once.

I wasn't trying to inform you, I was complaining. No matter how stealth-bomber like they make the wing, how big they make the wheels and brakes, it's still a torqueless, understeering fwd. You may retort with "but it has jdm V-TAXXX YO!!", or "it doesn't weigh much so it doesn't need torque!", but you are all very well aware of the sad reality that our cars will never be sports cars.. they'll always be overprice, overrated, slow machines only good for taking pictures.

Anyone who disagrees hasn't spent enough money on their Civic to realize this yet. So go ahead and buy a new Si for $19k or whatever, then buy a turbo or something for $5k, then an exhaust, turbo mani, internals, suspension, engine/fuel management, tuning tuning tuning, etc.. and when you're flat broke I doubt anybody will say it was worth it.

Honda drivers are the only auto enthusiasts ever who are so afraid to look outside the box, that all they know is vtec this vtec that.. I used to be that way.

Ok I'll post information that actually pertains to this thread. More spys shots of the coupe non si 2006 Civic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/06civic_coupe2_tov2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/06civic_coupe3_tov3.jpg

Looks like a saturn

Anyone who disagrees hasn't spent enough money on their Civic to realize this yet. So go ahead and buy a new Si for $19k or whatever, then buy a turbo or something for $5k, then an exhaust, turbo mani, internals, suspension, engine/fuel management, tuning tuning tuning, etc.. and when you're flat broke I doubt anybody will say it was worth it.



Your talking about what could be around a 10sec 1/4 mile if you spend 5k on the turbo and beef up the internals if its tuned well. It would be near it. There are guys running 12 sec 1/4 miles in rsx-s (which is basically the same engine/tranny) on stock internals. Im not exactly sure about the most psi people have put on the k20a2 stock internals but I know the k20a3 which has weaker internals has shown to be able to hold up at 16psi. So yeah, I would say its worth it. Im sorry if the new si doesnt meet your standards. You are so right, no one should enjoy a newer updated model of a car that is faster than previous years, what were we thinking!

I wasn't trying to inform you, I was complaining. No matter how stealth-bomber like they make the wing, how big they make the wheels and brakes, it's still a torqueless, understeering fwd. You may retort with "but it has jdm V-TAXXX YO!!", or "it doesn't weigh much so it doesn't need torque!", but you are all very well aware of the sad reality that our cars will never be sports cars.. they'll always be overprice, overrated, slow machines only good for taking pictures.

Anyone who disagrees hasn't spent enough money on their Civic to realize this yet. So go ahead and buy a new Si for $19k or whatever, then buy a turbo or something for $5k, then an exhaust, turbo mani, internals, suspension, engine/fuel management, tuning tuning tuning, etc.. and when you're flat broke I doubt anybody will say it was worth it.

Honda drivers are the only auto enthusiasts ever who are so afraid to look outside the box, that all they know is vtec this vtec that.. I used to be that way.

Okay, I have noticed all you seem to do in your posts is bash Honda's and front wheel drives. You bashed them in the 240SX forum when you showed your "new 85 200SX," you bash them in here. You're right, they are far from the greatest performance car in the world or the cheapest to build. But do not come in here and do nothing but b*tch and complain, especially with making comments like...."looks like a saturn"...after you bitched about it. Feel free to state your opinion, but the fact you have complained about honda's in mutliple manufacturer sub-forums is concerning. Don't complain about them with the intent of flaming and stirring up trouble.

So you hate them, great...so did a former member with a VERY simliar b16B swapped civic hatch you remind me of. Some of the members here enjoy them, and shouldn't have to deal with the BS. Tone down the negitivity and constant Honda bashing you have done in multiple threads and manufacturer forums.

So you hate them, great...so did a former member with a VERY simliar b16B swapped civic hatch you remind me of.

The Tach and knock Recaros gave that away, wow its been awhile.

Fall 05 for the civic:

FMC: 1.8L SOHC 140hp i-VTEC 4 (R18), 2.0L/200hp 6MT (Si), Direct Injection(?), ~3 inches longer and wider than current Civic, retains front McPherson strut susp. Si returns as a Coupe, Si gets "track tuned" suspension, optional navi.

WTF is the R series engine? Its replacing the D

I thought they were just gonna destroke the k's and drop them in there. But sohc...ehh...

Is the 140hp the ex? Or are we bumping up the hp for civics across the board?

Keep us updated man.

from what i've heard Honda felt the D block shouldn't be 1.8 and be able to last 200+K like a 1.6

It'll still be the underdog but should have good setup.

Honda Develops New 1.8l i-VTEC Engine:
Superior Fuel Economy and Powerful Performance Achieved With Valve Timing Control That Responds to Driving Conditions
—Scheduled for fall 2005 introduction in the new Honda Civic—

http://world.honda.com/news/2005/4050705_a.html

First pic of the SI on the road..I am totally not feeling this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/102767.jpg

EDIT: Another pic I found

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/03.jpg

It looks like a pontiac sunfire got raped by a saturn ion and was raised by an scion tc in the middle of the woods. Which where it was raised might explain why it has what looks like more ground clearance than a ford explorer. Im not exactly impressed. BRING BACK THE HATCH!!!

It looks like a pontiac sunfire got raped by a saturn ion and was raised by an scion tc in the middle of the woods. Which where it was raised might explain why it has what looks like more ground clearance than a ford explorer. Im not exactly impressed. BRING BACK THE HATCH!!!
:lol2: I agree

First pic of the SI on the road..I am totally not feeling this.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/102767.jpg

Yikes...and that's why the other shots where called a "concept vehicle." Somewhere from concept to road version it got a lot worse. Yikes...I agree...not feeling it at all. The headlights are too thin and don't flow with the body lines. They need to be wider and go up into the fenders more to start.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/102867.jpg

CRX talk in 07 in this article

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102867

Forget the crx, i want a fit....




















with a k24a2 and a gigantic turbo...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/FRONT.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/REAR.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/beastiek2/inside.jpg

Speculations D17's in the VP-DX-LX and K's across the board for the rest.

127hp Civic VP/DX/LX - average persons base model civic
160hp Civic EX - Inexpensive RSX variant with a 4 door option
200hp Civic Si - Cheaper variant of the RSX-S, without all the fancy options
160hp RSX - More luxurious version of the Civic EX
210hp RSX-S - More luxurious version of the Civic Si

Engines seem too good to be true. I guess we will see both a price and curb weight increase...

Looks good, though.

BRING BACK THE HATCH!!!
lol it's funny how when they brought back the Si in 99-00 people were pissed that they didn't get a hatch like the 4th and 5th gens. Then people got the hatch back and more or less hated it cause it looks like an egg. Now they put it in coupe form again and you're already wanting the hatch back.

I agree though, it looks like ass. Someone at honda needs to pull their head out of their ass and find a new person to design these cars.

lol it's funny how when they brought back the Si in 99-00 people were pissed that they didn't get a hatch like the 4th and 5th gens. Then people got the hatch back and more or less hated it cause it looks like an egg. Now they put it in coupe form again and you're already wanting the hatch back.

I agree though, it looks like ass. Someone at honda needs to pull their head out of their ass and find a new person to design these cars.

Everyone better stop flip floping and screaming for what they don't have...asking for the hatch when it's a coupe and a coupe when it's a hatch. If you're all not careful they'll give you an Si 4 door or worst of all....a wagon....

Seriously though, it just goes back to the old saying, people want what they can't have. Simple as that.

Engines seem too good to be true. I guess we will see both a price and curb weight increase...

Looks good, though.

You know what they say about stuff that's too good to be true! :evillol:

I'm gona take a shot at this chat they have tonight at 9 http://www.edmunds.com/townhall/chat/hondacivicchat090105.html

who knows????? Maybe this time they WILL listen to me.... uh huh!!!

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Speculations D17's in the VP-DX-LX and K's across the board for the rest.

127hp Civic VP/DX/LX - average persons base model civic
160hp Civic EX - Inexpensive RSX variant with a 4 door option
200hp Civic Si - Cheaper variant of the RSX-S, without all the fancy options
160hp RSX - More luxurious version of the Civic EX
210hp RSX-S - More luxurious version of the Civic Si


I dont know about the american versions of the 06 but i do know that for the canadian versions the HP is 198 in the Si and 140 for all others, all i-VTEC and all supposedly much "sportier" feeling...according to a buddy at the dealership...although so far he's only driven the LX...wont have the Si for a few months up here.....

Other details confirmed are all around ABS, standard front, side and passenger side airbags, electronic brake distribution and other safety improvements. As for the Si, its got a standard 6-spd manual (not sure about the auto...didn't ask!) On the down side...digital speedometer...i hate them!!!

Other details confirmed are all around ABS, standard front, side and passenger side airbags, electronic brake distribution and other safety improvements. As for the Si, its got a standard 6-spd manual (not sure about the auto...didn't ask!) On the down side...digital speedometer...i hate them!!!

Yeah, I saw a few pictures of the interior. Not my favorite interior design, that's for sure. The 3 spoke wheels wasn't the best looking 3 spoke wheels I've seen, and that cluster. The tach, fuel, temp, etc on gauges in the normal spot and then a digital speedo (80's style!!) over it all? A digital speedo? I hated those things as a kid in the 80's and I still hate em. Ugh...looked horrible, would drive me nuts to look at it when I drive. I havn't seen the car in person yet, but I can say a digital speedo, no way. Yuck. I hate that. it was ugly, not conventional, looked awful. I'd find it annoying to boot. If you ask me that really screws up what seems to be an okay car. They dropped the ball on the interior in that respect. That digital speedo just ruins it. :2cents:

At least the horsepower is up, lol.

Do you agree with the price of the car? I think its 24k with Navi.

Do you agree with the price of the car? I think its 24k with Navi.

24K for a civic? Yikes...even if it does have navi and a 198hp K20. Maybe it just seems high because it's a honda civic, that prices isn't too far off fromt he RSX-S.

Still, I'd think they'd want to seperate the prices a little more than that. I still think it's high, but thats me. :2cents:

without nav, its supposed to come in under 20k, its not being released until december, but i want to know how i can get on the wait list.

without nav, its supposed to come in under 20k, its not being released until december, but i want to know how i can get on the wait list.

Now that price it a lot better, much more in line with the last 2 gens of the Si. I couldn't see anyone buying it for 24K. 4K for navi? what a jacking. Replace the headunit, buy the Pioneer AVIC-N1 or N2 (whatever they are on now) for 2K and save the other 2K if it's that important. Me, I'd get it for under 20K without navi and live without it. That's what all my AAA road maps are for.:)

im with you on that brother, i just havent seen a picture of a civic without that nav system, hopefully its not just a blank spot, cuz then the dash is gonna be so empty looking.

im with you on that brother, i just havent seen a picture of a civic without that nav system, hopefully its not just a blank spot, cuz then the dash is gonna be so empty looking.

Yeah, that would look empty. I haven't seen a picture of it without navi either. I'm interested in seeing what it looks like without it. I'd hope they would have designed something to put in there to fill the space.

they offer a few radio designs to fit in there, here are the shots, thankfully no blank dash.

Single CD
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2006/civic_sedan/interior_gallery/large5.jpg

6CD In dash
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2006/civic_sedan/interior_gallery/large6.jpg

Cassette
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2006/civic_sedan/customize/CIVIC06132_mid.jpg


MP3
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2006/civic_sedan/customize/CIVIC06133_mid.jpg

every time someone buys a new civic SI another hurrican forms

car is just insane 24K thats v8 mustang price or loaded v6 vert even !!!!

even 20K is too much. honda post 95 = WACK

i agree that honda still needs a much cheaper version or a civic with much more power to compete with the srt-4's and the cobalt ss, either one will dominate this car.

at least we are getting the Honda Fit over here in 2006, ill convert mine into the Spoon Sports model.

At least the new Si comes with a Helical Limited Slip Diff. It's about time Honda put an LSD in a USDM car.

has anyone seen the UK civic? oh god that thing is terrible looking. www.honda.co.uk (http://www.honda.co.uk)