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In Progress Tamiya 1/12th Porsche 935 Turbo


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Eric Cole
03-17-2005, 10:42 AM
This is the most recent project for me. It's the Tamiya 1/12 scale Porsche 935 Turbo Martini Racing version. I picked this kit up at a model show recently and just couldn't wait to start it. I had built the kit many years ago before my skill level was advanced enough to do it right. Hopefully, I can do a better job of it this time.

So far all I have done is remove some of the parts from the sprue and start cleaning things up, concentrating on the body for now. This kit was originally released in 1977 (I think) so it requires quite a lot of clean up.

Some aspects of this kit are fairly advanced and detailed and other areas are lacking in detail, like molded in screen that will need to be replaced with real screen. Also, the kit does not include seatbelts which is a must for this scale.

My plan.... I intend to build this model and make it look as realistic as possible. I realize there is a super detail aftermarket set for this car but I want to try to scratch build what I can, modify kit parts that need to be modified and only use aftermarket products for items like screen, wiring/plumbing and seatbelts.

I'm having a difficult time finding reference material/pictures for this car so if anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Any comments, suggestions or tips will be appreciated also.

In progress pics will be coming soon...

This is the kit...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/502/99560000_1391.JPG

tmossman
03-17-2005, 11:17 AM
Scale Motorsport, the company that produced the detail kit you mentioned also sells the the research cd for $10.

http://www.scalemotorsport.com/default.asp?othergreatstuff

generationx
03-17-2005, 11:23 AM
WOW a big project!

There's a dedicated forum to this kit: http://porsche935.proboards20.com/index.cgi which I look at out of curiosity occasionally. It's mainly for those with the $525 SMS kit but there should be plenty of reference too.

Acu-Stion do a simple photo-etched kit: http://www.hlj.com/product/ACS1229

Enjoy, and I think we ALL look forward to this thread.

Vric
03-17-2005, 11:28 AM
Cool. I got this kit few weeks ago when Tamiya re-release it. I looked at it a bit, not a lot of cleaning to do. It's usual Tamiya Quality. (But plastic was made in 2004, not 1977)

Anyway can't wait to see some progress. It looks like an incredible detailed and fun kit to do.

Eric Cole
03-17-2005, 04:37 PM
I looked at it a bit, not a lot of cleaning to do. It's usual Tamiya Quality. (But plastic was made in 2004, not 1977)

Anyway can't wait to see some progress. It looks like an incredible detailed and fun kit to do.


The kit parts do look good overall, some engraving is a little soft, etc... but the original molds are several years old so I'm not complaining. I'm very happy to be able to build this kit again. Once you start working on it, quite a few sink marks will have to be smoothed out on several of the kit parts.

p9o1r1sche
03-17-2005, 05:00 PM
Looking forward to seeing this come together.

Eric Cole
03-18-2005, 10:49 PM
Here's the first bit of progress:

The huge body sitting in the box lid of a fujimi kit along with all the other parts to be painted white. Thay have been smoothed and need a light coat of grey primer to check my work.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3335/99560000_1494.jpg

The chassis tub, a little grey primer was added to check the sanding of the pin marks. Most of them are in the recessed areas which are hard to sand but visible so they have to be sanded regardless.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3335/99560000_1495.jpg

The wing insert has been glued in and intial priming and smoothing, Needs a little more work before final white primer.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3335/99560000_1500.jpg

The wheels, they are two piece front and back. They look decent out of the box but need a little work. You can see small sink marks on each spoke of the rear five spokes. They'll need to be stripped, smoothed and repainted with metalizer.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3335/99560000_1496.jpg

The fuel tank, molded in a semi-transparent cream color. Glues together in a top and bottom half and requires a lot of filing and sanding along that seam.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3335/99560000_1499.jpg

And finally, the beginnings of the engine, a little more cleaning and the basic engine block and transaxle will be ready for paint.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3335/99560000_1498.jpg

Thanks for looking, suggestions are welcome....

PRIVATEER
03-19-2005, 01:13 AM
This is a great kit. I used the SMS detail kit on mine. If you need any specific picture's, P/M me and I'll send you what I have on the SMS reference cd. If your interested the in progress thread for mine is here.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=187684

Good luck!!!!

Eric Cole
03-19-2005, 08:46 AM
Thanks for the link to your thread, I saved it as a favorite for easy access. Your model looks fantastic and I'm sure I'll be going back to it for reference.

Also, thanks for the offer of the SMS ref pics. I just ordered the CD last night right before I posted. I may regret not getting the full detail set after looking at your build up.

I'm sure I'll be PM'ing you with questions if you don't mind?

Murray Kish
03-19-2005, 09:33 AM
Surely it'll be a stunner when complete. Good luck with your build.

Murray

slk320
03-19-2005, 10:36 AM
PRIVATEER - Where is the rest?? Where is the progress????? You can't disappoint us like that.

Mach1_2003 - Don't pull a Z"PRIVATEER" and tease us without winishing this amazing model.

PRIVATEER
03-19-2005, 12:27 PM
PRIVATEER - Where is the rest?? Where is the progress????? You can't disappoint us like that.

Mach1_2003 - Don't pull a Z"PRIVATEER" and tease us without winishing this amazing model.


Unfortunately I have not figured out how to fix the side window glass. The build is at a stand still until I do. The kit glass is thick and does not accurately represent the two piece sliding glass on the doors. I need to make new glass and window frames. I'll figure it out some day.....and when I do..you will all see the finished job.

GvEman
03-19-2005, 02:05 PM
Awesome build dude! Very impressive!

DJPaul
03-28-2005, 01:10 PM
Great kit. keep pictures of progress flowing.

Eric Cole
03-28-2005, 02:14 PM
Just received the Scale Motorsports "Up close and mechanical" photo reference CD today. So look for progress to pick up. I've been holding off a little until I had this reference material so I could make the right decisions.

peter i
03-28-2005, 02:25 PM
remind me of Moby Dick http://www.hamannclassiccars.com/images/inventory/154.jpg

Eric Cole
07-07-2005, 10:27 PM
Well, it's been a while since I posted any updates on this build but I have been working on it some. I'm using some washes and some dry brushing to bring out the details in the "metal" parts (plastic that's supposed to look like metal). Anyway, I'm making slow progress but mostly because I'm working on other kits at the same time.

Here's a bunch of pics...

Chassis picture, not much done here yet.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1678.jpg

Close up of part of the front suspension. Master cylinder and steering mechanism... that actually steers.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1679.jpg

The dash, I added a few more knobs and switches, it'll also get some wiring.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1681.jpg

Engine cover / fan shroud, has been fiberglassed with nylon cloth and liquid cement.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1682.jpg

Turbo Parts, painted flat black and dry-brushed with dark copper.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1683.jpg

Brake calipers, painted flat black and dry-brushed with metallic grey.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1684.jpg

A couple of engine pics, painted with cast grey metallic and dry-brushed with aluminum (engine block) and steel (trans) nuts and bolts picked out with various metal colors.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1685.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1686.jpg

Portion of the interior, more fiberglassing of the foot pad using a different material than before (fabric softening dryer sheet).
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1687.jpg

Lots of white parts to polish, it took one can of tamiya grey primer, one can of tamiya white primer and 5 cans of tamiya pure white to get a decent finsh on all the parts.... ouch!!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1688.jpg

Wheels and tires.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1689.jpg

Headlight assemblies and cooling radiators.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1690.jpg

Rear swing arms.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1691.jpg

Fuel tank, filled with a mixture of red food coloring and water. Hopefully it will stain it over time and once I empty it it will look like it contains racing fuel.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1693.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1694.jpg

Just one small collection of the many parts yet to be stripped, painted and detailed.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1692.jpg

p9o1r1sche
07-07-2005, 10:38 PM
Very nice progress, Eric. Those components look real. Keep up the good work!

Veyron
07-07-2005, 10:52 PM
Exquisite work!

Vric
07-07-2005, 11:01 PM
Wow.. some really great work there.

This one should be my next project (humm this fall ?)

Anyway, I would apreciate a small tutorial on "fiberglassing". Your result look VERY great. I would love to do as good as you.

Bring on the How to please :D

Edit: What kind of paint do you use for metalic part ? Metallizer ?

Murray Kish
07-08-2005, 12:11 AM
Wow,

This is a beaut! Very nice work! :grinyes:

Murray

RallyRaider
07-08-2005, 03:44 AM
Super impressive work so far! The fibreglassing and metalizing are magnificent.

sjelic
07-08-2005, 03:55 AM
I can only say wow, I have enjoyed this pictures very much, perfect painting job on all of the small parts.
And I agree a little how to on fiber would be great.

sportracer02
07-08-2005, 05:35 AM
I can only say wow, I have enjoyed this pictures very much, perfect painting job on all of the small parts.
And I agree a little how to on fiber would be great.


:iagree:, give us a little fiberglass how-to.

Looks very good so far, nice idea with the fuel cell

Eric Cole
07-08-2005, 08:36 AM
Thanks for the great compliments....

I would be happy to do a tutorial on the fiberglassing. I still have a few pieces to do so I'll take some pictures as I do them. Then I'll post up a "how to".

The metal paints are a combination of paints. The brake claipers, turbo and engine block are done with a very dry brush tamiya acrylics. The trans is dry brushed with Testors Model Master enamel steel color. The swingarms are done with various testors metalizers.

It should really come to life with some additional wiring and plumbing.

SkylineFan
07-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Eric,
It is looking stunning!!!!! Keep it up!!!

robrex
07-08-2005, 05:51 PM
Great work! I agree with all the other comments on the fibreglass, it looks awesome!

Hiroboy
07-08-2005, 07:16 PM
WOW, I love the work so far, Fibreglass affect is perfect :bigthumb:

blubaja
07-08-2005, 09:07 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1686.jpg
Horizontally opposed beauty:) This kit must be fun! All those thousands of parts to fiddle with to get perfection. Good luck on this. Looks really nice.

Frank X.

klutz_100
07-11-2005, 10:07 AM
... I would apreciate a small tutorial on "fiberglassing". Your result look VERY great. I would love to do as good as you.

Bring on the How to please :D

:iagree: on everything especialy the "how to"!!


"stunning" is word that leaps to mind when looking at your work so far on this. :bigthumb:

Zek
07-13-2005, 05:01 PM
Very good work.... those wear and tear effects are fantastic :smokin:
I also have a kit of those to do some day.... but I still don't know when I begin
but already now hope you finish that kit... :iceslolan
Good rest of progress....

Cobra Colors
07-13-2005, 10:50 PM
I'm really enjoying the views at the realistically painted components, and the fiberglass parts are excellent. Nice progress pics.

Eric Cole
07-26-2005, 10:17 PM
Thanks everyone for your great comments so far.

Here's a little more progress on the brakes and suspension parts. This is assembled OOB with some more washing and dry-brushing with various testors metalizers.

Front brakes, hub and shocks:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1697.jpg

Rear brakes, swingarms and axels w/working u-joints that will eventually make up the IRS:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1698.jpg

And just another picture of the pieces-parts:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1699.jpg

mike@af
07-26-2005, 10:33 PM
Eric, those brakes are fantastic! I cant wait to see them at the next meeting.

A_C
07-26-2005, 10:51 PM
The nuts and bolts are so real! How you did that?

Eric Cole
07-26-2005, 11:38 PM
Thanks guys, the nuts and bolts are either provided with the kit as separate plastic pieces or molded to the part and detailed with washes of flat black/smoke mix or painted with various metal colors.

Some assemblies are moving along rather quick now that all the painting is done. Here is a few pics of the engine (assembled tonight) minus the turbos, exhaust, injection pump and wiring, etc.... it'll get some wiring over the next couple of days then I'll add more parts to it.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/000_1700.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/000_1701.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/000_1702.jpg

D_LaMz
07-27-2005, 02:51 AM
Wow!

klutz_100
07-27-2005, 03:02 AM
amazing work, Eric! My jaw is still banging away on the floor :)

mike@af
07-27-2005, 07:58 AM
Mother of pearl! That is fantastic. Top notch work Eric. I'd love to follow in your foot steps. Thanks for posting up all the progress!

godfather23
07-27-2005, 09:16 AM
Great work! I admire you for having the patience for all of those details. This must be a killer kit.
Does anybody know, where to get other decal sets besides the one with Martini-livery for this kit? Are there some out there?

Eric Cole
07-28-2005, 11:37 AM
Thanks All.....

HAHA.... Mike, believe me when I tell you there are better footsteps to follow.... but thanks for the compliment buddy!

Last night I assembled the front and rear suspension to the chassis and wired the distributer replacing the kits vinyl molded plug wires with real wires and boots.

More pictures to come soon.....

Thanks again!

Sticky Fingers
07-28-2005, 04:01 PM
Wowzers. You be showin us maaad skillz!! I love progress threads & this is up their with the best. Looking forward to more!!

mickbench
07-28-2005, 04:18 PM
This is some very nice work. The detail is amazing.. It looks like real metal most of the time, hard to think this is mostly plastic..

lazbun
07-28-2005, 10:25 PM
Very nice work and excellent paint job !!!!
So far , have you use any PE wash and bolt for the detailing job ?

Samurai75007
07-28-2005, 10:53 PM
Holy crap it looks real... good goin

Technoman
07-28-2005, 11:11 PM
Nice, attention to detail is outstanding and the texture of the parts is also spot on!!

campenr.1
07-29-2005, 04:13 AM
Really lovely work - looks so great.
How do you get the different types of textures on the parts??

Eric Cole
07-29-2005, 08:39 AM
Thanks everyone....,

Very nice work and excellent paint job !!!!
So far , have you use any PE wash and bolt for the detailing job ?

lazbun, Welcome to Automotive Forums......
so far it's all plastic out of the box except the fiberglass texture on the top engine cover.



Really lovely work - looks so great.
How do you get the different types of textures on the parts??

campenr.1, most of the texture came from the base color which was sprayed on. I used Plasti-Kote automotive brand paint called Cast Grey which is a dark grey metallic color. I sprayed this as the base color and since it dries fast, when sprayed from a distance of about 1 foot it texturizes. Then I just dry brushed tamiya acrylic aluminum, metallic grey, etc... over the Cast Grey color high-lighting the details until I got the result I was looking for.

SkylineFan
07-29-2005, 08:44 AM
Very ingenious Eric.... You are doing a superb job on this one..... will it be at the Nov NNL's???? I would love to see it!!!!

Eric Cole
07-29-2005, 09:39 AM
Very ingenious Eric.... You are doing a superb job on this one..... will it be at the Nov NNL's???? I would love to see it!!!!

Thanks David, unfortunately this one won't be at the NNL this year. I have two other Porsches that I'm working on specifically for the Nov NNL's. Since one of the themes this year is Road & Track I'm building two of Fujimi's Porsche 356 Enthusiasts kits, one street and one race, and have only just started cleaning the parts of one of them. Anybody that's built the enthusiast kits knows I have my work cut out to build and detail two of them by November.

I just love stress and emotional torture..... :grinno:

Vric
07-29-2005, 11:29 AM
Wow incredible work.. Make mw want to do mine right now :D

btw where is the "fiberglassing" how-to ? It look soo good !

Eric Cole
07-31-2005, 02:23 PM
As requested, here's the link to the Fiberglass How-To

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=438245

Eric Cole
08-02-2005, 09:05 PM
A few more updates:

Here's the engine completed to the level of the kit instructions plus the added BMF straps on the intake tubes and the fittings on the injection pump.

Now, I will be adding some other wiring and plumbing to make the engine more complete and hopefully more realistic. Allthough, I don't intend to go overboard on the details because in my opinion too much detail in scale become less realistic to a degree, it just becomes cluttered. Or maybe I'm just too lazy.... :grinyes:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1715.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1718.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1720.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/justdande/In%20Progress%20935%20Turbo/000_1721.jpg

Technoman
08-02-2005, 09:12 PM
That really is beautiful. Right texture, wires all hang right and all the small details add up to one stunning engine. Beautiful..

Vric
08-02-2005, 09:22 PM
it look very great. Can't wait to see more. I will inspire my built from this thread :D

klutz_100
08-02-2005, 11:20 PM
Now, I will be adding some other wiring and plumbing to make the engine more complete and hopefully more realistic. Allthough, I don't intend to go overboard on the details because in my opinion too much detail in scale become less realistic to a degree, it just becomes cluttered. Or maybe I'm just too lazy.... :grinyes:


Holy cow, Batman!

I think the only thing you could do to make this engine more realistic is to pour 15cc of engine oil in and start her up!

Very impressive :bigthumb:

blubaja
08-03-2005, 12:02 AM
:eek2:That would go great in Baja!! Keep up..you know..Amazing!!!!!!!!

Zek
08-03-2005, 03:53 AM
Great progress!!
The motor is beautiful !!
Those whole details... they give a great aspect

:smile:

mike@af
08-03-2005, 09:29 AM
Magnificent work Eric. It is astounding how realistic the engine is. Keep up the good, no, great work!

_WIDE_LOAD_
08-03-2005, 09:58 AM
One word comes to mind......WOW! :eek2:

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