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LOUDCRXSi
02-16-2005, 11:52 AM
Actually.... the mini me swap aint that hard...correct. but if you dont have it tuned correctly then your gona blow your motor after a few months. Thats where it gets kinda hard. And if you had to do a thing call a motor sway what the hell did you put a d15 in???? that comes with what? 100hp??? Im really glad that the duma$$ that puts a motor with less hp then the stock 1.6 motor is tryin to get on my shit. You should be the last person to talk about runnin times. And expecially for tryin to act like you know shit. you aint impressed me yet.

civickiller
02-16-2005, 12:12 PM
tune the motor correctly. give me a break, your not gonna blow a mini-me because of tuning, especially a stock mini-me. if you run a p28 ecu with the mini-me, it will be fine, you dont need to tune anything. what do you know about tuning anyways. oh and the stock motor of my car is a d15b2, not a d16a6. you should have got that when i said i was still runnin dpfi. and if you go back and read i never doubted your times, the only thing i said was that 5hp aint gonna get you into the 14s. no where did i say that your 15.5 is bs. and i dont try to act like i know shit, i do know my shit. i wouldnt respond to a post unless im sure i was right. and i should have a ls swap wiht a gsr trans by the summer. so you talk all bad, what kind of work have you done on hondas or even cars in general ?

civicHBsi91
02-16-2005, 12:50 PM
LS ebay intake, thermal cat back, broken motor mount in a 2400 pound car = 14.7 @93mph with 2.1 60'.

better tires and a fixed motor mount would see low 14's all day.

That was an old setup. When I come back out spring/summer I plan on seeing low 13's high 12's...

Kven
02-16-2005, 01:44 PM
people swap in small motors as replacement motors because the old one usually has some sort of problems. just because you swap in a motor doesnt mean it has to be a higher performance one. ;)

civickiller
02-16-2005, 02:10 PM
yup reason i swapped in a b7 was that my stock b2 broke the timing belt and bent a few valves and my b18a was fucked up when i bought it

civicHBsi91
02-16-2005, 02:21 PM
Oh yea who are you that we have to impress you? your a noob here, you could be bullshitting you have to prove yourself just like anyone else on here did that has respect.

LOUDCRXSi
02-16-2005, 02:40 PM
aight civickiller you must not know all your shit then. (not gettin pissy!!!!) if you dont tune your car when you do the minime swap in time it will blow the motor. Thats the thing with all head swaps. Its not like puttin on an intake and just take out bolts and put in the new part. Its technical. And why would you get the d15 motor with 102 hp when the d16a6 motor has 108 hp. you must not know that much.

LOUDCRXSi
02-16-2005, 02:43 PM
aight civickiller you must not know all your shit then. (not gettin pissy!!!!) if you dont tune your car when you do the minime swap in time it will blow the motor. Thats the thing with all head swaps. Its not like puttin on an intake and just take out bolts and put in the new part. Its technical. And why would you get the d15 motor with 102 hp when the d16a6 motor has 108 hp. you must not know that much.
and i duno how else to prove myself. i put the site up for my time with all my numbers and parts. im not claiming to know everything about cars. Granted i do know a pretty good bit. and i dont do shit the cheap or ghetto way either. i take my time to get the best results. thats how i ran 15.5 and the only performance mods i had was just intake and muffler.

civicHBsi91
02-16-2005, 02:48 PM
You havent proved a thing you come off as a know it all arguing with people who actually know their shit.

You probably dont know much, You probably havent done a damn thing thats harder than putting on an intake. We have seen your type around here many a time they get no where.

civickiller
02-16-2005, 02:57 PM
aight civickiller you must not know all your shit then. (not gettin pissy!!!!) if you dont tune your car when you do the minime swap in time it will blow the motor. Thats the thing with all head swaps. Its not like puttin on an intake and just take out bolts and put in the new part. Its technical. And why would you get the d15 motor with 102 hp when the d16a6 motor has 108 hp. you must not know that much.

you will not blow your motor if you run a p28 ecu. the reason, because if you swap hte head to a 1.5 your actually decreasing displacement so more fuel isnt gonna blow your motor, and if you go with a 1.6 its the stock displacment of the z6 or y8 so its perfect for the p28. now if your talking about an lsvtec than thats different because your increasing displacement so then you should get it tuned. it seems this topic is too technical for you. and why would i throw in a d15 vs a d16, maybe its because its the only sohc i could find for cheap

icE_x
02-16-2005, 03:35 PM
swap in a V6 from one of the new accords and THEN i will be impressed :)

SiZ
02-16-2005, 04:56 PM
And SiZ...do you know outa curriosity how much more the B1 weight then the d16? I've heard its a few 100 lbs heavier but i can see how.

Few hundred pounds heavier?! Its something more in the range of 60-80lbs. Besides, thats irrelevant because your CRXSi probably weighs as much as my DX hatch. (unless you've taken some things out)

What I'm getting at is, you're probably going to need either less wieght, or about 50 more HP to reach a 14.9.

If you can do it with a fuel rail and FPR to make your car run even MORE rich, I'll buy you a scanner so you can post them up.

Seriously, you think you know quite a bit, but you're asking if you can take .6 seconds off your 1/4 time by adding more fuel!? (or for $200 for that matter)!??! :grinno:

I'd be verrrrry impressed if you could even run the 15.5 again, let alone get into 14s.


BTW - If you know your shit you would know that the D15 doesn't make 102hp.

icE_x
02-16-2005, 07:54 PM
SiZ knows his stuff - don't argue with him trust me :)

LOUDCRXSi
02-16-2005, 11:22 PM
dam im getttin a lota shit....its almost funny to me...aight well i talked to 2 different shops about the minime swap and they both said the same thing. that when you do the head sway you can run without gettin it tuned but they both said that you will blow the motor if its not done rite. so i duno maybe the mechanics are wrong. and the d15b7 from the civic dx/ls has 102 hp. go do a search on google for the motor specs. you'll see. (not pissy once again) and SiZ go back and read my posts. I said that i've put on a catback and high flow cat. so im not tryin to go from 15.5 and spend 200 to drop .6. And like i said b4 it might be outa my reach to get 14's with just a high flow cat, exhaust and somin else but awell. we all have goals we need to set. thats the only way were gona get newhere in life.

kingpinn
02-16-2005, 11:30 PM
this is wild i hope this thread will just die one day so when i log on i dont see it any more die thread die

LOUDCRXSi
02-16-2005, 11:51 PM
i dont think it will. its just gettin funny to me. i dont know about everybody else.

icE_x
02-17-2005, 07:37 AM
just do whatever you think is best - anything performance mods that give you actual gains are a good thing :) just don't go overboard with the exterior ok? seen too many people go crazy with the outside and it looks ewww :disappoin

slow_99integra
02-17-2005, 09:42 AM
this is wild i hope this thread will just die one day so when i log on i dont see it any more die thread die


No way this is funny. LOL

civickiller
02-17-2005, 12:38 PM
if you run a mini-me with a p28 ecu, you wont blow your motor. why dont you when you get your mini me done, take it to a dyno and pay all that money and get a afr reading from the dyno then post it up. im sure youll have to fine tune the motor alittle but you afr wont be off enough to blow the motor. the one thing that you should do is run premium because with the cr increase and the timing not being changed. but again thats something you would hear and you would know to retard your dist. but then again you already know this right honda master

civicHBsi91
02-17-2005, 01:01 PM
hey loud do you ever ride around on ritchie highway? trying to figure out if i have evern seen you before or anything.

SiZ
02-17-2005, 03:10 PM
edited for lack of attention on my part

Seriously though, you're not going to run 14.9s with an A6 without 50 more HP, but I've covered that already so this is over and done with.

Kven
02-17-2005, 03:53 PM
Siz, you and him are talking about different motors. hes talking about a d15b7 which is rated 102hp and is a obdI engine(92-95 eg civics), while the motor you are talking about is a d15b2 which is 92hp and is a OBD0 engine(the EF's)

SiZ
02-17-2005, 04:38 PM
WTF?! Since when are we talking about 5th gens?!
HAHA.. Theres so much jumble in this thread even I'm confused. :p

kingpinn
02-17-2005, 05:56 PM
do you live in glen burnie civicHBsi91.
if you do i would love to meet up and talk one day

civicHBsi91
02-17-2005, 06:30 PM
Yea I live in glen dirty, You probably have seen me or some of my friends alot if you used to/still go on ritchie.

LOUDCRXSi
02-18-2005, 01:30 AM
na CivicHBsi91....My sister use to live around there up in Curtis Bay. I aint been around that part of town in a min. But yeah im deff tryin to meet up one day. Holla at us.

Oh and civickiller...what you gona go on that honda master tip. I never claimed i knew everything. I know i dont. But either way i read up on that and i heard that when you do the minime swap it a good thing to go with the MSD ignition. Somin about the head will run harder than the stock head (of course) and puttin the msd distributor and all of that will help you out with the new head. It went into more than that but awell i dont feel like typin all that.....does that sound resonable to everyone????

civickiller
02-18-2005, 02:17 AM
i dont think msd makes a distributor for honda. as far as the ignition, no you dont need the box either. what i would recommend would be a msd ignition coil. guys run 600whp on stock dists with only the msd coil. honda makes there dists really good and the only thing that needs to be replaced is the coil.

but as far as runnin harder, the only reason it would run harder is because of more compression

turtlecrxsi
02-18-2005, 09:54 AM
edited for lack of attention on my part

Seriously though, you're not going to run 14.9s with an A6 without 50 more HP, but I've covered that already so this is over and done with.

I'm not disagreeing. But it's making me think more and more and wishing I had an extra $50 for a dyno run and that the 1/4 track wasn't a hour away...

civickiller
02-18-2005, 01:03 PM
your lucky, for me its $100 for using the dyno and the track is 2 hours away

Kven
02-18-2005, 01:54 PM
i dont think msd makes a distributor for honda.

actually they do but its a obd1 distributor. its called the Pro-Billet; i know Jegs and Summit has them. but yea the stock distributor is fine, just get a new cap if you want to run the external ignition coil.
and the box can actually decrease performance(for NA engines). theres lots of people complaining on lots of import and even domestic forums. theyre only good if you are running boost.

civickiller
02-18-2005, 02:32 PM
oh so they do make a dist. i wonder how good it is. the box sucks for boost too. lots of times people running the box experience missing then when they remove the box it goes away. so ditch the box and just get the coil

91civichatch2571
02-18-2005, 05:40 PM
oh so they do make a dist. i wonder how good it is. the box sucks for boost too. lots of times people running the box experience missing then when they remove the box it goes away. so ditch the box and just get the coil
wierd, ive only heard good things about running the box with boost. I was definitly planning on getting one for my setup. Ill keep an eye open for unsatisfied box users.

bambam89lx
02-18-2005, 06:13 PM
Siz, you and him are talking about different motors. hes talking about a d15b7 which is rated 102hp and is a obdI engine(92-95 eg civics), while the motor you are talking about is a d15b2 which is 92hp and is a OBD0 engine(the EF's)

Hey, i don't know if you guys knew this, but the d15b7 is the EXACT same engine as the D15B2. The Block and Head are identical, they are both PM3 heads and come with the same crank/pistons,etc. The only difference is that the 92-95 motor is obd1 and comes with multi point already equipped. So, by swapping in the obd1 d15B7 and adding all of the obd0 DPFI intake and the stock exhaust manifold, he's back down to 92HP....LOL.

LOUDCRXSi
02-19-2005, 01:30 AM
I thought i read the msn did make the dist. I already have the coil, but i need to put it in. In the directions it says how to do it w/o the box. Is there gona be ne difference with the coil. I dont see how it would make nething that much better.

civickiller
02-19-2005, 01:54 AM
all it does really is make sure the motor gets good spark. stronger spark makes sure it burns everything so you get a more effective burn

LOUDCRXSi
02-19-2005, 02:40 AM
thats straight. Im waitin for it to get warm so i can start doin some work to my car. I have a good bit of work to do b4 it gets warm.

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