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monooxide
02-03-2005, 08:59 PM
Shift Faster and Better with an Automatic...
There is a Wire Connection right above your fusebox on the right fenderwell when your looking at engine form front of car. Just disconnect it and the Automatic Trans shifts better and faster.

D-Bo
02-03-2005, 09:00 PM
are there any negative consequences to this?

monooxide
02-03-2005, 09:49 PM
Only thing i have felt different/bad is that 1st-2nd transition seems to be rougher then before when it shifts before 3750RPM but hey if you dont like it...Just plug the connection back in and there ya go back to normal...but if youre gonna race someone unplug it again.

D-Bo
02-04-2005, 12:06 AM
i wouldn't race in an automatic even if i had one..

logik23
02-04-2005, 12:33 AM
That trick has been known to everyone for like 10 years.

nissanfanatic
02-04-2005, 12:53 AM
I feel like a ricer when I push the gas in my moms camaro.hahahahhahaha autos suck.

240sxAddict
02-04-2005, 02:16 AM
yo wat u mean?? well i do mine manually its an A/T but i go manual on it i shift at around 4000 or 4500 but wat do u mean got a pix of it?

monooxide
02-04-2005, 12:36 PM
Its on your fender well above the stock airbox. And my says JEGS made in japan. All you have to do is disconnect the wire.

D-Bo
02-04-2005, 01:28 PM
yo wat u mean?? well i do mine manually its an A/T but i go manual on it i shift at around 4000 or 4500 but wat do u mean got a pix of it?


oooooh thats a no-no




edit: WOO HOOO 1000posts

drumpet15
02-04-2005, 02:15 PM
WOO HOOO 1000posts
Congrats, man! That's pretty cool.

sRscooby
02-04-2005, 02:21 PM
i heard this was pretty bad, really bad, for the transmission

just swap for 5sp already!

monooxide
02-04-2005, 05:55 PM
This idea is ONLY FOR if you dont manually shift the shifter on an Automatic like I do...You dont shift the auto you just unplug that sensor and it shifts faster.
EDIT: 5-Spd Coming in June-July 2005!(for me)

Chuki_breath
02-04-2005, 09:23 PM
dude your going to find your tranny laying on the raod and you coasting without it. Manually shifting autos is bad for it lol. Y race with an auto anyway. 240's are already slow without forced induction and thats with a 5speed. An auto is even slower than that!!!! so what is the damn point even if you do shift faster you still lose!!!! well actually i have beaten an integra in my auto lol it was obviously a roll start. But i was still in drive with overdrive ON and killed that puntang. He was a 5speed and had exhaust and shit. I was still stock at the time.

SHIFT_KA24DE
02-04-2005, 09:55 PM
okay, i could see that manually shifting an automatic is bad... how exactly? This never interested me since i never had an automatic. I've only driven friend's cars that were a/t.

Jus thought i'd ask...

Autofreefindersguy
02-04-2005, 10:19 PM
If it was bad, you couldn't even be allowed to do it...
I had an auto and it actually performs well...I got better MPG on the hiway too...Its set up much better then a Porsche 944 Auto trans...

I like my 5 spd now, but the auto has decent shif points already...

Oh and D-Bo...yes you would race on if you had one! ha ha...

sRscooby
02-04-2005, 11:14 PM
EDIT: 5-Spd Coming in June-July 2005!(for me)

always good to hear! i'll be getting on that once i get all the rust gone and car repainted

you know, don't want it to be falling apart while going supafast

240sxAddict
02-05-2005, 02:16 AM
well i have been doing this since i got the car 1 year 2 months the tranny was burned or something like that so i got it resconstructed (mom made me do it) and i could find a manual tranny so its like new and i always shift like that but is it really bad cuz it should of gotten ruin by now no? well if mom wouldnt have ruin my whole project i would of been good now :( but yea i forgot wat i was going 2 say lol......but yea i have won a few races well all the races doing manual shift with the A/T. only thing that i dont doo is down shift thats a big no no for me the car stops and shakes the first and only time i did it.

logik23
02-05-2005, 12:23 PM
I always downshift, but never upshift, lol.

aznracer520
02-05-2005, 12:44 PM
haha a true drifter hahaha!

Chuki_breath
02-05-2005, 03:06 PM
lol no if it was bad they wouldnt not let you do it....its simply there so you can control your rpms somewhat. Like if you get stuck you can drop it to first and then it wont shift. like in snow or what not. Trust me dude its bad for the tranny. Read your manual too, it also tells you to take precautions shifting it manualy. But im not saying that you absolutely cant do it...im just saying dont do it all the time and never use drive because thats not what the auto was made to do. You get what im saying.

monooxide
02-06-2005, 09:56 PM
I know this maybe a typo but...
Chuki:
"im just saying dont do it all the time and never use drive"
then what can he use? Reverse? the big N? Umm this whole thread that i started was...about having it in drive not 1 and then start driving...I have heard from plenty of people that this is bad so i just reconnected it.

logik23
02-06-2005, 11:59 PM
"the big N" as you call it stands for neutral.

monooxide
02-07-2005, 01:42 AM
Of course i didnt mean anything else...

240sxAddict
02-07-2005, 02:04 AM
ok so if i do it manually its bad so is wat monooxide (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=143862) bad 2???

monooxide
02-07-2005, 02:15 AM
Im not so sure which is worse....I would think if you just had to shift manually it would be better then disconnecting the wires i mentioned earlier...and if you want to shift faster but dont want to manually do it then my method is better. BUT in the end NEITHER METHOD IS GOOD FOR YOUR CAR! Just do the 5-Spd swap like me 240SXaddict

240sxAddict
02-07-2005, 02:27 AM
dang its hard 2 find a m/t man anyways i wasted the damn 1200 cuz my mom took my car 2 get the tranny fix so if she hadnt done that i would of but now i cant i have 2 do the suspension and the A/C (thats real important the A/C over here in L.A lol)

NiSmO_zt
02-07-2005, 05:54 PM
i think the manually shifting the auto is bologna. my Z had 190000 miles on it, i had it for 4 years, and manually shifted it all the time, just dont downshift, thats a no-no. but for a race, sure, drop it into first and when you get near redline, slide it up one and so on, did it probably 500 times while having the car, and spanked a lot of other cars. like this fc3s rx-7 turbo II, he laughed at me at the drag strip, he came up and said hey, want to run em, and i said sure, and he looked in my door and saw the auto, and said, well, just put it in gear and go eh? and he laughed, and i just said yep. we lined up at the tree, i pulled from him all the way down the track, in the 1/8, i beat him by 3 car lengths. what he didnt see was my greddy relief valve, boost controller, etc., but he was boosted too anyway, but it was a fun victory.

funny thing was, after i beat him, he acted like something was wrong with his car, and left the strip.

Autofreefindersguy
02-07-2005, 06:00 PM
I agree Nismo,
I have manually shifted a auto tranny many thousands of times (upshifted) on my old 240SX, Trans Ams, Camaro's, you name it...

Take care of your car & it will take care of you.

logik23
02-07-2005, 06:09 PM
I downshift my auto all the time, there's never any problems.

240sxAddict
02-07-2005, 06:26 PM
well downshifting an A/T i think is bad cuz it stalls for a second or so and it sounds bad i did it once in traffic and i decided 2 downshift the car stalled i was like oh crap and the car behind me almost hit me so for me downshifting is a no-no

logik23
02-07-2005, 06:29 PM
When I downshift my auto, it's the same as downshifting a manual, the revs go up and it slows down faster.

monooxide
02-07-2005, 06:30 PM
You cant control the RPMs on a downshift in a Auto...so it doesnt downshift as well...

D-Bo
02-07-2005, 06:38 PM
the only time you should need to downshift in an auto is when you're going up or down a really steep hill or when you're trying really hard to stop in slippery conditions (snow/rain)

the rest of the time = :gay:

logik23
02-07-2005, 06:55 PM
Apperently you didn't know this so I'll enlighten you.

People who use their brakes on the highway are the main cause of traffic jams, because someone brakes, then the people behind him brake, then the people behind them, and it causes a traffic jam, so if I need to slow down, I downshift, no brakes, no traffic. it's easy, another good way is no not crawl up the ass of the person in front of you, so if he slows down, you take your foot off the gas and you don't need to use the brakes.

NiSmO_zt
02-07-2005, 08:21 PM
so, why arent you marketing something, if you single-handedly have been able to eliminate traffic jams where ever you go, you should be a millionaire.
im not sure i believe that people seeing brake lights causes traffic jams... from my almost 8 years of driving, its usually just some jackass who cant merge, so he stops and when he does pull out, he slows everyone behind him down, cause he has no speed... and btw, if there ever was something that was hard on an auto, downshifting at 70 mph would be it, next to throwing it in park at those speeds.

a buddy of mine works at the local toyota dealer, and some lady was on the interstate, passing a truck in her brand new car, so she downshifted her auto, and when she did, it accidentally went into 2nd instead of 3rd, which could easily happen, and she blew the block into about ten pieces. with a manual, there is a full stroke between gears, making it very hard to put it into the wrong gear, but with auto, it could happen easy, and forcing those kinds of revs on a motor can be devastating

just dont think its a good idea, but its your car
$.02

Edit: 100 posts, yay! 1/10 of D-Bo's posts !!11

logik23
02-07-2005, 09:34 PM
#1. This isn't something I dreamed about and thought "Hey, I'm better then God!", they had this big nation wide study in the newspaper that proved this.

#2. When I downshift I'm going like 50-55mph.

#3. I only have a 3 speed so I can't really mess it up cause I gotta really hit it to get it into first.

#4. I didn't say it was the only reason, I said it was the main reason.

#5. You fail at proving me wrong.

monooxide
02-07-2005, 10:40 PM
Wouldnt you rather pay for new brake pads then a new transmission? i like the HUGE TRAFFIC jam and the little brake wear over the strain on the clutch and transmission

logik23
02-07-2005, 10:54 PM
The car has near 260,000 kms on it, there's never had any tranny work done on it, my dad drove the car for 150 of those 260 and he ALWAYS downshifted when he was on the highway. So don't give me any of that rebuilding the tranny bullshit.

NiSmO_zt
02-07-2005, 11:00 PM
i didnt really care much to prove you wrong man, i said its your car, so ill let you prove yourself wrong, and lighten up, gosh !111!

also wanted to add, topaz's are pimp !
ive always wanted to make a twin cam twin intercooled twin turbo tempo, which is the sister car to the topaz, just to badge it "Twin Cam Twin Intercooled Twin Turbo Tempo" in billboard letters on the side of the door, like they did in the '80's.

lataz

SHIFT_KA24DE
02-08-2005, 01:55 AM
i didnt really care much to prove you wrong man, i said its your car, so ill let you prove yourself wrong, and lighten up, gosh !111!

also wanted to add, topaz's are pimp !
ive always wanted to make a twin cam twin intercooled twin turbo tempo, which is the sister car to the topaz, just to badge it "Twin Cam Twin Intercooled Twin Turbo Tempo" in billboard letters on the side of the door, like they did in the '80's.

lataz

hahaha... interesting. on a Tempo you say? That's very creative... but i really hope your just saying that as a joke.

Replying to the thread...If you decide to not activate your brake lamps on the highway... it could cause some problems some time in the future. Most old-time drivers out there brake only when they see the car in front of them do the same. Don't expect every driver out there to be cautious enough to realize that your car is rapidly slowing down w/o "braking" (from their point of view). It's okay if you downshift instead of brake at times but just make sure no one is close behind you. It fukin sucks to get rear ended.. it's happened to me, but it was in bumper-to-bumper traffic so the (lady) driver wasn't paying attention in that case.

Jus a heads up for safety.

i've always enjoyed scaring people that tried tailing me by downshifting thru rev-matches in my 5-speed. They panic and brake when they see themselves closing in .. and then i jus take off since i'm already dropped a few gears... haha... good fun.

D-Bo
02-08-2005, 03:55 PM
shift, i do that too.. they don't even notice!! then you scare the shit out of them and take off.. gotta love it..

and logik, i know what you mean about brake lights slowing all the traffic down but honestly, once the car behind you sees that you've slowed down enough, they're gonna step on their brakes.. so in reality, you're trying to make it convenient for the people behind you but they'll just step on their brakes.. to me there's no point unless you're on a hill or trying to stop suddenly.. and the whole tranny work issue: it won't have to be replaced if downshifting is done on highways like that.. its the back and forth shit that gives it the wear and tear.. that car should last you a while if its still going strong at 260k..

logik23
02-08-2005, 04:15 PM
Well I'm doing it, if no one else wants to then that's no my problem, also since when I touch my brake pedal, the brake lgihts come on before the brakes engage, when someone is riding my ass, I just touch the brake pedal with my left foot while still keeping my speed, the guy behind me panics and slams on his brakes, it's good stuff.

GSR2NR94
02-08-2005, 04:54 PM
Screw Automatics. They are worthless. My 2nd 240 was auto and I had to sell it because I couldnt wait to do the swap. Now I have a 5 spd S14. My friend bought my to auto and did the manual swap. Shifting an AUTO??? That is about as ricy as it gets. Im sorry, but its true, especially if you are proud of it. All agree?

logik23
02-08-2005, 05:05 PM
UUmmm.... I have a Topaz fucktard, I wouldn't even wanna try a manual Topaz.

D-Bo
02-08-2005, 05:07 PM
well if someone shifts an auto in city driving then yeah, :gay: but as i've said twice before, hills and sudden stops are different

GSR2NR94
02-08-2005, 05:11 PM
Topaz? Well then get off this forum man. I wasnt talking about you then was I? No, I dont think so dickhead. Topaz' are totally different.

logik23
02-08-2005, 10:49 PM
Dude, I'm here cause I plan on getting an S14 and I know more then you will ever, so screw off.

publicenemy137
02-08-2005, 11:10 PM
downshifting in automatics is a bad idea. logik you can keep doing it, but your tranny is definetly taking a hurt and will break down sooner than it's supposed to. Torque converter's aren't made for sudden manual shifts

logik23
02-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Like I said, 260,000kms later, still running strong even though it's fucked now cause I threw it in park going like 25kmh, but anyways, I'm selling the car when I get my S14, it'll help pay for shit.

GSR2NR94
02-09-2005, 12:04 AM
Logik, I have seen you make a lot of posts and thats cool. But you shouldnt start telling people to screw off just because you are jealous that they have an S14 and you dont. Im sorry if you dont have one yet, but Im sure you will get one sooner or later. Also, if you do not have an S14, you will never know more than me because you do not have the experience with them. I do the research on the internet to ya know? But unlike you, I also do the research on my car in my garage. So don't get so bent out of shape when you realize that you do not know everything. Its normal.

publicenemy137
02-09-2005, 12:41 AM
I wouldn't say logik sounded jealous at all, you called him a ricer for shifting in an automatic which is stupid. Even though shifting in an auto is bad, it is still faster even though it puts a hurt in the tranny. Nothing ricey about it. Though I do agree that no amount of internet research can replace actually owning an 240sx and working on it.

D-Bo
02-09-2005, 01:42 PM
haha i'm still willing to bet logik knows more..

drumpet15
02-09-2005, 01:47 PM
Logik, I have seen you make a lot of posts and thats cool. But you shouldnt start telling people to screw off just because you are jealous that they have an S14 and you dont. Im sorry if you dont have one yet, but Im sure you will get one sooner or later. Also, if you do not have an S14, you will never know more than me because you do not have the experience with them. I do the research on the internet to ya know? But unlike you, I also do the research on my car in my garage. So don't get so bent out of shape when you realize that you do not know everything. Its normal.
Are you freakin' retarded?! Just because you have one in your garage doesn't mean you're an expert on the car. Logik responds to practically every thread on here. He always supports his responses and knows a hell of a lot of stuff about S14's. No, he doesn't have one. But I can guarantee when he does, it'll smoke yours.

240droptop
02-09-2005, 01:53 PM
heres a tip for all you Auto Drivers raceing on the street. When a car pulls up beside you put her in Neutral give here a few reves then SLAM it into (R)ace :naughty: and if that doesnt waork then shift into
(P)ass :cwm27: and that should work :rofl:

sidewayzS13
02-09-2005, 02:06 PM
GSR2 you my friend are what i like to call, how do i put this oh yea a ignorant peice of shit. how r u going to downplay logik and criticize his knowledge on the basis of him not owning a s14. i think u dont know dick about ur car and ur just trying to use the "you dont own a s14" as your entire argument of why u know more then him. i think some of us should compile a 240 test and once it is completed we should post it then make GSR2 and logik take it to prove who knows more then maybe after GSR2 loses he will never come back and we will never have to read his ignorant ass post again. or he can stay around and we can flame him until he breaks down and cries which in turn will cause him to go into a deep depression. then he will lock himself in a room that does not have computers for the rest of his life because he will fear computers and will cry everytime he sees them. u all might be thinking this is far fetched but i have seen it happen twice

sidewayzS13
02-09-2005, 02:07 PM
wow i think that was my longest post ever im slowly starting to love y ability to ramble about meaningless nonsense

drumpet15
02-09-2005, 02:13 PM
Lol, that was LONG! Funny, though. A test would actually be kinda cool. It would be cool if we had a bunch of people take it and see how much everybody really knows. But especially Logik and GSR2.

sidewayzS13
02-09-2005, 02:45 PM
logik would dominate

monooxide
02-09-2005, 04:40 PM
GSR? youre only 47 posts into your "AutomotiveForums" Career why not change your name so youre not associated with an "Acura"

D-Bo
02-09-2005, 09:46 PM
what do you mean?? he tunes a nissan 240sx gsr!!!11!!11

couldn't you figure that out??

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