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1PhatCX
01-19-2005, 11:18 AM
well, just picked up 2 more 12s lastnight, thinking of making a custom enclosure to get rid of the back seat so i can run 4 12s and 1 10 :) this time i bought some visonik subs, 33 bucks each and there a sister company of audio bahn so there good quailty just less wattage. my buddy has some and said he cant sit in his truck because they hit so hard. and before he had 2 kenwood db+ 12's and 2 pioneer 12's, and that was fucking loud, so i cant wait to hear these :D

turtlecrxsi
01-19-2005, 11:20 AM
what??? LOL

1PhatCX
01-19-2005, 11:23 AM
cant u read? i bought new subs, gonna be running 4 12's and 1 10 :p lol

BigBearWest
01-19-2005, 01:29 PM
Hoew do you not kill your altenator. i have gone through 3 in the last year and i only have 2 12 type r's with a 1000 watt. you running a gel cell batt

Imperial
01-19-2005, 01:45 PM
Hoew do you not kill your altenator. i have gone through 3 in the last year and i only have 2 12 type r's with a 1000 watt. you running a gel cell batt

Get an alternator that has a higher output than a stock one. Stinger makes them for you.

1PhatCX
01-19-2005, 04:06 PM
yep, running an optima yellow top :)
funny this is, is when my alternator did take a shit on me (cuz of age) i still drove around town all night for like 6 hours before the battery started draining hehe

BigBearWest
01-19-2005, 04:29 PM
Get an alternator that has a higher output than a stock one. Stinger makes them for you.

Any idea how much it is?

I think i will be gettting a yellow top in a few months

1PhatCX
01-19-2005, 04:32 PM
Any idea how much it is?

I think i will be gettting a yellow top in a few months


do it, yellow tops are great!

honduhcivic
01-19-2005, 04:40 PM
Why don't you spend that money on fixing your car and making it look half way decent instead of rattling it apart?

BigBearWest
01-19-2005, 04:46 PM
No one asked you opinion.

I might get a orbital gel cell they see to be cheaper

honduhcivic
01-19-2005, 04:51 PM
When someone posts something on any forum they should expect to get the opinions from others, weather the like or dislike what the thread starter posts about.

BigBearWest
01-19-2005, 04:54 PM
Your opinion is irelevent do to the fact that you are a newbie and have no idea what is going on with his car

travagliante
01-19-2005, 04:56 PM
When someone posts something on any forum they should expect to get the opinions from others, weather the like or dislike what the thread starter posts about.


no the thread is about his subs not talking about the cosmetic and structual soundness of his car. Damn you frigin noob.
:banhim: please kris or GTA!!!!

]{iwi
01-19-2005, 05:10 PM
umm whay even bother with the 10" i would only use the 4 12's if it was me mixing and matching really dont help much

honduhcivic
01-19-2005, 05:18 PM
You guys need to chill out. I did nothing wrong. All I did was voice my opinion. And I've seen Dereks past threads about his car so I know all about it.
Now you go calling Kris and Greg, LOL, and to do what? I did nothing wrong.
And I love how post counts make me a noob. If you had any idea LOL.

quiXilver
01-19-2005, 05:18 PM
^agreed

1PhatCX
01-20-2005, 08:23 AM
Your opinion is irelevent do to the fact that you are a newbie and have no idea what is going on with his car


exactly, this is about my subs and not what my car looks like, my car looks like ass and it makes it funner when i beat someone in a race anyways but thats irelevant too

i went to my buddys place lastnight and was sitting in his truck and holy shit, these things pound fucking hard! i cant wait to put em in my car. should have them in today hopefully. gonna be running them at 2 ohms so i hope i dont overload my amp :) i'll get pics up asap tho.

and i bet this "honduhcivic" guy is prolly hybrid or silent, and there prolly pissed that i filed that complaint, oh well they were warned ahead of time and did it again, i dont take anyones crap :)

yea BigBear, ur talking about the orbital from canadian tire right? those are nice, and its funny too because i got 2 of my buddys one, people come into work and say the batterys no good because they drain it so much, throw it on the tester and sure enough, it tests bad, we warranty it, charge it and then employees (or me) take it :) thats how i got my yellow top :D

vladlos
01-20-2005, 12:35 PM
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. i have visoniks. 2 12s. 800 watts each. they're sweet.

1PhatCX
01-20-2005, 02:20 PM
u like em?
thinking of hooking mine up right now on my lunch hour :)
mine are 600w tho

1PhatCX
01-20-2005, 05:56 PM
holy hell, got em hooked up, running 2 ohms off my kenwood 320 watt amp and holy shit, there like 90 times better then my sonys, and i didnt even have it turned up all the way, i'm impressed! :D

Onimacus
01-20-2005, 06:29 PM
My optima yellow top drained after one night.... I was pissed!

icE_x
01-20-2005, 07:09 PM
you didn't let it charge all the way lol :P

i've done research and found that infinity kappa perfect 12-inch subs are very nice, good quality and they hit hard. Any of you had experience with them? I'm going to be using them in my next sound setup to replace my 3 10's.

All i've heard are good things about yellow top batteries :) They are a bit pricey but worth it if you're looking for a quality battery for high-output usage.

As far as higher output alternator, this is almost a must since the honda alternator is so wimpy, and in my EX i can barely turn the air on, with wipers and headlights, and use my power windows all at the same time. It'll all run very slow. I think my alternator is just old, and i'm getting high-output soon - it's like $160 bucks or something, i have the link to it on ebay, but its well worth the extra amperage, like 60 amps on idle and 135 max? More than enough to power everything.

You're going to have a heck of a lotta subs...the spL and dB are going to be crAzy! You need to take that thing to some competitions and bring us back some trophies :)

Hilikus Funkin
01-20-2005, 10:46 PM
dude you have no idea how much AC kills your power. My friends can be pussys and always complained bc i didnt use it so they turned it on one day and turned it off a few mins later bc it didnt help much and we werent goin newhere.

1PhatCX
01-20-2005, 11:33 PM
crazy, yea i think i'm gonna run just 4 12s now, i dunno, gotta figure all this out and get better amps, looking at a Jensen 500w right now, we'll see what happens, i got a good 6 months before the first comp anyways

]{iwi
01-21-2005, 01:13 AM
get a good amp its better then a cheaper more powerfull amp one

the amp that runs my 3 JL's is a 2+150w kicker, running at like 800w to the three subs and it sounds good doing it

BigBearWest
01-21-2005, 03:30 AM
yea BigBear, ur talking about the orbital from canadian tire right? those are nice, and its funny too because i got 2 of my buddys one, people come into work and say the batterys no good because they drain it so much, throw it on the tester and sure enough, it tests bad, we warranty it, charge it and then employees (or me) take it :) thats how i got my yellow top :D

Yea man i worked at partsoruce so i still get cost plus 5%

honduhcivic
01-21-2005, 04:44 AM
i just dont understand how you guys want fast cars but then throw in the extra weight of a fat chick in your trunk....

BigBearWest
01-21-2005, 05:09 AM
the key is to have a equal balance. the more shit you have in your car the more boost you need to run :D

icE_x
01-21-2005, 06:43 AM
haha :) going fast is nice, but you gotta have the sound too! So when you're just cruising around you have a sweet system to listen to, it makes all the difference in rush hour traffic

ponchonutty
01-21-2005, 07:44 AM
Hey guys, anyone interested in some equipment. I am unloading stuff out of my demo car. It is all Directed Audio stuff. Thanx-Steve

doug294
01-21-2005, 07:57 AM
I was running two Audiobahn 12" 800watt each subs, plus a Concept 1600 watt amp in my hatch. I couldn't turn the amps power up past halfway cause my head would hurt and my eyes would vibrate so bad I couldn't see anything.....then I was stupid and sold it all for $400. (which was less than what the amp alone cost)

Now I am back with 2 audiobahn 12"s 1000 watt a piece and a 900 watt Rockford Fosgate amp. It sounds good and all my friends tell me it's loud as crap, but just nothing to me after my others.

Ok sorry didn't mean to take the thread. Good luck to you man, take some pictures of your setup.

1PhatCX
01-21-2005, 11:04 AM
Yea man i worked at partsoruce so i still get cost plus 5%


i own u bitch, well.... my store owns ur store hahahaha

i'm working at canadian tire :)

and yes, since i'm going turbo.... it just means run more boost, it'll make alot of heads turn when i'm running 12's with a full system :evillol:

Doug, i'll be sure to take pics of the finished set-up when it gets done, right now it wont be done for awhile becuase my buddys grandpa passed away and hes the one who makes all my boxes for me :( lets just say, i wont have a back seat and the box will kind look like this

/--\ and have 2 12's on each / \ thing so 2 facing front, 2 facing rear :)

was thinking of having 2 10s on the top flat part and run a separate amp to them so i can have better bass thru more frequencys but my buddy said it will be hard to get it to sound right :(

doug294
01-21-2005, 11:35 AM
Sound cool man. Sorry to hear about your firends grandpa. Ever thought of fiberglassing it? Weighs a lot less and looks a lot cleaner. Just a thought.

I plan on taking my back seat out and make a "wall" that goes from my back window where my flap usually is and curves down to the back of the front seats, then installing my subs in there. It will be awhile before this is done but seems like a pretty straight forward project.

1PhatCX
01-21-2005, 11:40 AM
yea i was thinking of that
i might also just do half wood, half plexi glass as well. because the back side of my new subs are too nice to hide :) hehe

1PhatCX
01-21-2005, 11:45 AM
heres pics of the subs

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNzQ2MjgzNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNzQ2Mjg0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

the reason it doesnt look too good on the back is because i just brought it inside from -20 degree weather

doug294
01-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Yeah they look pretty good. I heard a Visonik 15" at a sound expo and it sounded crazy loud. Good stuff

1PhatCX
01-21-2005, 05:41 PM
thanx man :)
hope to get everything sorted out and running 100 percent. just wish the weather would co-operate :(

Jetts
01-23-2005, 11:49 PM
i had 2 rf power he2 15's with 1800watts going to them and i bent my trunk in my focus, made my friends rearview mirror fall off sitting at a light, he was infront of me (=
i sure miss that

i got 4 12's in my garage, thinking about putting them in my truck or sell them for 300 bucks

1PhatCX
01-23-2005, 11:54 PM
i got 4 12's in my garage, thinking about putting them in my truck or sell them for 300 bucks


fuck, if i had the cash i would jump all over that

i might sell my sonys and get 2 more of the visoniks tho, i love em

Jetts
01-23-2005, 11:58 PM
yea they are bad ass hit a 150.9 with 500rm each in a 5.9cubic foot box

1PhatCX
01-23-2005, 11:59 PM
not bad
what do u think i can get for 2 sony explode 12's 450 watts each, used for about 5 months and were underpowered? 200?

Jetts
01-24-2005, 09:36 AM
it dont know it all depends on if you can find someone that wants to buy them, like ive been trying to sell these 4 12's for like 3 months cant find a buyer

pimprolla112
01-24-2005, 11:17 AM
dude do yourself a favor sell the shitty visoniks and the shitty x-plods and get a decent brand of sub sounds like people going to fucking walmart acting like they could get a half decent system. look around on the net you can get a good deal on subs on ebay id look towards mtx, infinity, kicker or directed. i had 2-12" infinity kappa perfects in my old car with a profile ca 600 thats only 150 rms a channel whole system cost me like $500 the trunk in the car is fucking bent. you get what you pay for from a system buy cheap shit it sounds like shit. i put 2 15" mtx 8500 each with there own ca 600 bridged 450 watts rms the rear hatch window fucking shattered. i did try the more subs more bass aproach and it sounded like shit. you can get a good system for under 600 with an 2 subs and a box buying cheap shit gets you no where. the infinity perfect is an awsome sub they look good they sounds fucking awsome you dont need a lot of power to make them pound and there not to expensive, around 150 shipped on ebay. buy your shit from a circuit city best buy tweeter ebay buying shit from walmart for a a system is just wasting your money.

1PhatCX
01-24-2005, 12:34 PM
if u didnt read my post, i said i have them in and they sound great, they pound hard and were well worth the money, there made by the same company that makes audiobahn so they are good quality too.

Jetts, thanx for the help man, i'm gonna see if one of my friends wants to buy em, or just go around to the local highschools and see if i can unload em hehe

pimprolla112
01-24-2005, 05:17 PM
yeah i did read your your post u can get a 6 1/2" speaker to hit like a 15 with the right box. just cause its made by a brand doesnt make it good quality rockford makes lightning audio which are pieces of shit audiobahn in my opinion are pieces of shit yeah i have heard them pound but they have a lot of distortion. you can have your 4 subs pounding away all i need is one mtx 9500 with a directed audio 1200 watt amp and it would pound the shit out of your visoniks.

icE_x
01-24-2005, 05:27 PM
you cuss an average of 3-4 times every post lol

i do agree, save your money, read reviews and ask people's opinions about a setup you'd like to buy, get the pros and cons, and then make a decision based on that. Don't go and look at the peak wattage ratings like my friend does, he has a cheap pair of volfenhag 12's and he doesn't even know what RMS is, just took what the guy said at the expo as the truth. I don't think it even lists the RMS on the box...And DEFINITELY don't buy any stereo equipment from walmart. It may look good and costs next to nothing, but you get what you pay for...

I've heard nothing but good things about Infinity Perfect's, i'm probably getting a pair of those when i upgrade. They're pretty cheap too, about $100 per sub. I don't know much about which amps are good, but find one that matches your RMS, and Class D mono if you're powering subs.

Also, try to get good speakers for mid-bass and the high notes, because a system with all BASS is never a good thing, unless you're strictly competition

Tony
01-25-2005, 06:57 PM
I'm not a big fan of Audiobahn or Visonik. We have had them down here for a long time, the local flea market sells them. I will admit they can hit like a mother, but I don't like the quality. For the price if you are just going for DB's, they are good for that. As far as depth, they can't touch MTX, and im sure Infinity. My JL Audio's that I had were good and loud but still didn't have the depth I wanted. I mean even with 2 12's on a 120 watt Planet Audio amp, it hit a 140.8 DB.

I agree though, stick with just 4 12's don't through in any 10s or anything, and upgrade your door speakers if you haven't already. Door speakers you definitly get what you pay for on those. I went through like 5 pairs before I got my MB Quart Components.

And bring home some trophies for TLD :D

doug294
01-25-2005, 11:34 PM
I'm not a big fan of Audiobahn or Visonik. As far as depth, they can't touch MTX, and im sure Infinity.

Umm...I'm going to say no on this one. I got my Audiobahns from a company that was going out of buisness for $55 each (retail for $175 each). They would blow my friends MTX comp and 1000 watt MTX amp away with mine running on 600 watts. Audiobahn is much better quality. Thats my :2cents:

doug294
01-25-2005, 11:39 PM
dude do yourself a favor sell the shitty visoniks and the shitty x-plods and get a decent brand of sub sounds like people going to fucking walmart acting like they could get a half decent system. look around on the net you can get a good deal on subs on ebay id look towards mtx, infinity, kicker or directed. i had 2-12" infinity kappa perfects in my old car with a profile ca 600 thats only 150 rms a channel whole system cost me like $500 the trunk in the car is fucking bent. you get what you pay for from a system buy cheap shit it sounds like shit. i put 2 15" mtx 8500 each with there own ca 600 bridged 450 watts rms the rear hatch window fucking shattered. i did try the more subs more bass aproach and it sounded like shit. you can get a good system for under 600 with an 2 subs and a box buying cheap shit gets you no where. the infinity perfect is an awsome sub they look good they sounds fucking awsome you dont need a lot of power to make them pound and there not to expensive, around 150 shipped on ebay. buy your shit from a circuit city best buy tweeter ebay buying shit from walmart for a a system is just wasting your money.


I think you should learn what you are talking about before you run your mouth. Audiobahns are good subs. As far as cheap crap that would be MTX my friend. Also he was telling what his setup was and his plans. He didn't ask for you to bash on his system. IF you can't post something to help or constructive don't post at all....either that or go to Honda-Tech they seem to be full of your kind.

Tony
01-25-2005, 11:40 PM
What MTX did he have? the lower models aren't that great, but from all the Audiobahn's that I have heard, yes they are loud, but they don't have a good frequency range. But that was the last time I heard them too which was atleast 3 yrs ago. Ive been out of the sub game for a little while, can still wire them up like a mo fo though.

doug294
01-26-2005, 10:39 AM
What MTX did he have? the lower models aren't that great, but from all the Audiobahn's that I have heard, yes they are loud, but they don't have a good frequency range. But that was the last time I heard them too which was atleast 3 yrs ago. Ive been out of the sub game for a little while, can still wire them up like a mo fo though.

Ok got ya now. Yeah these are newer Audiobahns and they sound great. Don't bottom out and haven't distorted on me yet.

1PhatCX
01-26-2005, 11:44 AM
yea i'll agree, the frequency range on the visoniks arent that great but when they hit.... they hit hard, we were sitting there lasntight waiting for the tow truck to pull my buddies jeep outta a ditch and were messing with my system, since we were in a residential neighbourhood at 12 am, we turn the bass right down on the deck, i put a rap song on and it still hit really fucking hard with the bass turned right down

as for door speakers.... i spent 32 bucks on 80 dollar sonys :) lets just say, they were "mis-packaged" ;)

pimprolla112
01-26-2005, 11:31 PM
ice x im glad to see someone else has the same problem i do people buying speakers cause the max power is up somewhere past 1500 and they think that more power is more bass. as far as the perfects go i had a friend who was pushing them with a profile ca 1200 which is 300 watts rms per channel you could here his truck from over a mile away. one word of caution though i did make the mistake of pushing more tham rms which 350 and it preety much died 10 minutes after i hooked it up they dont need a lot of power which is good. as far as audibahn being better thatn mtx thats a laugh audibahn still uses compressed paper as a cone and foam for the surround material thats top of the line back in 1970 good quality speakers have either aluminum or composite/graphite cones and rubber or a composite for the surround. il admit for the price they do hit and yeah you can tear alot of systems apart with them. but ive also seen the cone start ripping apart the surround fall out and my friend had 4 of them each with 500 watts he caught 2 of them on fire. yeah most of the stereo equipment is based mainly on opinion, but most proffesionals would point you towards mtx. infinity, jl audio, directed audio and occasionaly depending on where you go audiobahn. and tony what series jl subs do you have my uncle has one jl w3 pushing 125 rms from an mtx amp it sound like 2 12" subs.

doug294
01-27-2005, 12:17 AM
Well first of all go back to school and learn some basic English. Second last time I checked my 12's have a stamped and balanced aluminum cone. Not paper :loser:

Tony
01-27-2005, 12:40 AM
Mine were just W0's. Picked them up for I think $75 for both in a box. They did hit, but I didn't like their frequency, but it also had to do with the amps I had. I went back and forth between the Planet Audio 120 watt amp and a cheap Jensen 300 watt amp. The Planet Audio was a friends, so I borrowed it for the last comp I did just to see what I could get out of it.

And don't start jumping on him because he didn't feel like adding punctuation and capitalizing everything. I do that when I'm feeling lazy. Atleast you can understand what he is saying unlike others who can't spell. But he has a very good point. Most stereo stuff is all matter of opinion...and I did say MOST!

doug294
01-27-2005, 08:45 AM
And don't start jumping on him because he didn't feel like adding punctuation and capitalizing everything. Most stereo stuff is all matter of opinion...and I did say MOST!

Not jumping all over him. It looks like one big sentence. Just stating my opinion.

pimprolla112
01-28-2005, 12:11 AM
well they have one of the elements that make a good sub but that still doesnt make them any better. About half of what audiobahn makes is compressed paper they try selling them for the same price as an mtx 8000 or an infinity perfect. As far as the W0's with tony get a good set of rears with a nice amp and it would sound fucking awsome, you can get the W0's to hit real nice with the rears you should get some nice frequency range. Another thing that has to alot with the way a sub hits is the type of car a hatchback is going to hit so much harder than a car with a trunk, i noticed alot more of a frequency range and it hit so much nicer when i put the 2 perfects in my blazer. Now i have those sitting in my room with the 2-15" mtx and i just put the first 9500 in there with some tuning it could hit as hard as the 2-15"s. In my opinion audibahns are pieces of shit. Attacking me for my bad english wont get you anywhere. im glad to see someone agrees with me.

Jetts
01-28-2005, 01:40 AM
i dont care what the name is, i hit a 150.9 in a 5.5cubic square foot box with 4 fusion powerplant 12's

Figori
01-28-2005, 10:05 AM
Fusion's rock....

quiXilver
01-28-2005, 10:09 AM
I say if you've got the 2 subs already, just get a NICE amp to power them. As long as you have good clean power, and the right enclosure, you can get just about anything to sound good. Shit, just for giggles my friend went out and bought a 12" jensen XS or whatever from wal-mart and built a box for it and put it in his 98 eclipse. That thing near hits as hard as my two sonys, and it clear as a bell. And I have a Memphis power reference 500w class D amp. I just hate those sony's.

To help with the infinity part. I had 2 perfect kappa's. They got stolen. Those were the best speakers I ever had, you could play the shit outta them and they were so SMOOTH and CLEAR. I was going to get some more memphis speakers, but now I think I'm going to get myself some more kappas. They are so fucking awesome.

I also would not hesitate to buy audiobahn though, because I've had their speakers, and they last forever! I had 2 12's older models, and my friend got them from a friend, beat the hell outta them, sold em to me, then I beat the hell outta them, then I sold them to a friend he played em, then I wanted them back, then I sold em to a friend who currently has them in his car now, and they still play perfect. The speakers have to be every bit of 6 years old.

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