2006 mustang cobra wish

Anybody besides me like to see the next Cobra have the 5.0L Cammer instead of a supercharged 4.6??? I know I would. The Cammer already has the potential to be tuned to 500hp. If I'm not mistaken that would make the Cobra a potential giant killer without forced induction. Then we as aftermarket tuners could throw our own superchargers or even twin-turbo charge it. The cobra would OWN!!! But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. I mean... why shouldn't Ford consider that?

It could be just a Mustang GT with independant suspension and a 5.0L Cammer engine. Killer

Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque. The only saving grace of the 03/04's that actually made it fast was the fact that it had tons of low end torque to get its massive weight going from a stand still. Lose the roots blower and you lose that torque, it's not gonna happen. Plus a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated motor isn't nearly as reliable, and good luck building one that passes noise regulations.

SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.

SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.

Hey i'm from detroit too, but I'm stationed in Japan right now. Anyway, i thought it was a good idea to put the cammer in. Well, does anybody know why we can't get a turbocharged cobra instead of a supercharged one. Besides tradition.

CAn you tell me where I can find a Mustang Car Club in AR? I just purchased a 2004 GT and would like to join a club. Thanks

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GhostX, wher did u get that pic from?? its sweet

SVT has plans to put a motor from a Ford GT (supercharged 5.4L Lightning hopped up) in front of a t-56 6-speed manual transmission with re-engineered independant rear suspention. this from a book i recieved for chrismas about the evolution of the '05 mustang. as well as word from the inside (SVT engineer i know, living near detroit pays off). so there.

That would be sweet.

GhostX, wher did u get that pic from?? its sweet
It's 3dCarbon's body kit. I thought maybe I better put their name on the pic. They have ALOT of cool stuff for the new stang.

Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque. The only saving grace of the 03/04's that actually made it fast was the fact that it had tons of low end torque to get its massive weight going from a stand still. Lose the roots blower and you lose that torque, it's not gonna happen. Plus a 500 horsepower naturally aspirated motor isn't nearly as reliable, and good luck building one that passes noise regulations.

You're saying Ford's DOHC 5.0 has zero low end torque? If that's so, why did they put that engine in the GT-R? Why then did that engine outperform a supercharged 4.6, which has more low end torque by what you say, in its last road test?
It must be doing something right and I sure wouldn't mind seeing those magical "5.0" emblems back on the side of the Mustang.

While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.

Speaking of the A/C Cobra, I saw on Discovery Channel last night Ford plans to not build the A/C Cobra but the Shelby GR-1. The Cobra was the concept plans but the GR-1 would be the actual car in the dealerships if this happened. Anybody heard any word about this car?

You're saying Ford's DOHC 5.0 has zero low end torque? If that's so, why did they put that engine in the GT-R? Why then did that engine outperform a supercharged 4.6, which has more low end torque by what you say, in its last road test?
It must be doing something right and I sure wouldn't mind seeing those magical "5.0" emblems back on the side of the Mustang.

While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.

Speaking of the A/C Cobra, I saw on Discovery Channel last night Ford plans to not build the A/C Cobra but the Shelby GR-1. The Cobra was the concept plans but the GR-1 would be the actual car in the dealerships if this happened. Anybody heard any word about this car?

I seen that same show. thats the first i heard about the GR-1. that was a sweet car and it was cool how they came up with that. i didnt know that had a V10 in it. WOW thats great. thats different then the Ford GT500 right? i was kinda thinking that the Gr1 was replacing it.

I seen that same show. thats the first i heard about the GR-1. that was a sweet car and it was cool how they came up with that. i didnt know that had a V10 in it. WOW thats great. thats different then the Ford GT500 right? i was kinda thinking that the Gr1 was replacing it.

Yeah I looked it up today and found out it's going to have the same engine as the A/C Cobra concept. Also, it's not replacing the Ford GT in any way shape or form. If you remember from that show, they said Ford is sending a message to the car world saying it wants to be a major competator in the exotic market. The GT-40 was the first step and if this GR-1 gets the green light, it'll be the second.

yeah, i do remember something about that. i wonder how much the gr1 will cost?

I would of course want the 5.0 cammer in the SVT Cobra, no less. Or atleast make a boss 302 to put the cammer in, or a GT500 for the cammer? (5.0, GT500?) That would be pretty sweeet. But if its the 5.4 supercharged, thats gona be pretty crazy. N/A tune can bring it to some pretty amazing levels, atleast above 350-400hp.

The GT will be ending production when the GR-1 comes online. It's not that Ford wants to end production, the GT will not pass the safety requirments in 08.

I highly doubt ford would play with turbos anymore. They tried...then went back to thier roots.

I highly doubt ford would play with turbos anymore. They tried...then went back to thier roots.
Why not? What went wrong?

The probe used to be offered with a turbo package.. That was the first gen I believe, then after that the new gen was NA. It also takes alot of tradition into play. Ford wants to stick with the "muscle car" title of a v8 with roots type blower. Im not saying I wouldnt love to see a factory Cobra DOHC 4.6 TT...but I dont think it is going to happen.

Why? So that you can have a much poorer powerband? With big heads and a huge intake that motor makes absolutely ZERO low end torque.

Thats absolutely untrue, from low end the cammer has way more than any 4.6 engine ive seen in a stang. In fact thats what 5.0s were knew for, no low end torque, pshh

Thats absolutely untrue, from low end the cammer has way more than any 4.6 engine ive seen in a stang. In fact thats what 5.0s were knew for, no low end torque, pshh

THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR ME. So that leaves me with the question, Why not use the 5.0L Cammer (non-supercharged of course)???

umm arent the new cobras coming out in 2007? not 2006

umm arent the new cobras coming out in 2007? not 2006

It might be released late 2006 as a "2007" model. Why does it matter anyway? If it comes out in 2007 it will just give them more time to think of ways to make it even better.

While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.Forget Cobra - Bring Back "The Boss Mustang"...

For those lucky to own one, there was "The Ultimate Boss," the rare Can Am 494, an exotic bored-out version of the Boss 429 NASCAR engine. Using standard Hilborn injection only thirteen (13) full aluminium engines were made and five (5) of the ULTRA-rare magnesium engines. A reputed *700HP+* was obtainable from this setup.

700HP+... from the factory...

STOCK.

In 1969.

Go ahead Ford, make my day... build the 21st Century functional equivalent of this Corvette Killer.

Be still my heart.

I hope Motor Trend is correct with the Shelby Mustang Cobra being the SVT Cobra replacement. That would almost be enough to satisfy me.

Thats absolutely untrue, from low end the cammer has way more than any 4.6 engine ive seen in a stang. In fact thats what 5.0s were knew for, no low end torque, pshh

You go build a 5.0 thats pushing 500hp N/A and tell me it has off idle power. Pshh... A 500hp 5.0 is spinning way up there to make that kinda power. You go build a 5.0 that makes 500hp @ 7000+ rpms N/A. Now come back and tell me what kind of low end power (around 1000-1500rpms) the car has. It Wont. A 5.0 built to spin about 7000 rpms in order to hit the goal of 500 n/a hp wont start making any power till probably around 3500 rpms.

You go build a 5.0 thats pushing 500hp N/A and tell me it has off idle power. Pshh... A 500hp 5.0 is spinning way up there to make that kinda power. You go build a 5.0 that makes 500hp @ 7000+ rpms N/A. Now come back and tell me what kind of low end power (around 1000-1500rpms) the car has. It Wont. A 5.0 built to spin about 7000 rpms in order to hit the goal of 500 n/a hp wont start making any power till probably around 3500 rpms.

Unless it's camshafts are timed. That could work.

? u race in the power band right? so when ur going down the drag strip and u go from 3500 to 7000 then when u shift u drop back down to what 3500 or 4000. so y does 1500 rpms matter to much i understanf off the line also if ur crusing etc but in a racing aspect.

yeah...you wont juice any low end torque without a decent stroke, and if you're running a 7000rpm engine your stroke wouldn't be very big...now stroke the engine a little and you've got way better low end

http://www.fordracingparts.com/announcements/news14.asp

just alittle something for mustang fans to be proud of.

No Fucking way will they put a 5.0 back in, Atleast in a cobra, The saleen doesn't even ave a 5.0, And it still makes 400 HP

No Fucking way will they put a 5.0 back in, Atleast in a cobra, The saleen doesn't even ave a 5.0, And it still makes 400 HP
Thats because a saleen is a tuner version of a GT, and a gt is not a 5.0, i dont think it will happen, but not for that reason

No Fucking way will they put a 5.0 back in, Atleast in a cobra, The saleen doesn't even ave a 5.0, And it still makes 400 HP
Well, the saleen is supercharged isn't it? Anyhow this is a wish thread, so nobody get offended if my dreams aren't the same as yours.

No Fucking way will they put a 5.0 back in, Atleast in a cobra, The saleen doesn't even ave a 5.0, And it still makes 400 HP

Which 5.0 are you talking about? If it's the new one that went in the racing version then I could see Ford putting it in the Mustang. What is your point about Saleen? Sure it makes 400 hp along with the Roush version but the 5.0 puts down the same numbers right out of the box. Think about what it would do once Saleen got done with it.

Are we talking about the $15,000 dollar cammer motor? Or are we talking about some 4.6 thats been bored out to achieve that displacement. Because if we are talking about the 15K motor how is ford gonna do that and make the car affordable.

Are we talking about the $15,000 dollar cammer motor? Or are we talking about some 4.6 thats been bored out to achieve that displacement. Because if we are talking about the 15K motor how is ford gonna do that and make the car affordable.


damn that would cost alot 2 make. so yeah ill be happy which ever engine it is.

I wouldn't mind if Ford brought back the old 5.0 from the old fox bodies. True it's an OHV when Ford has seemed to totally switch everything to OHC/DOHC engines. Still, there's nothing like the classics.
I don't care if they just bore the 4.6 out to 5.0 just as long as they bring them back.
I mean if people see newer Mustangs with 5.0 on the side they'll know that it's a bad @$$ car.

Well all I gotta say is that I would love to see Ford bring back another pushrod motor.

Know that they are bringing back the 5.0 makes me feel confident in my 94 5.0 now. Although it's not a DOHC but still, it's the number and the decimal that counts. Yet, at the same time I'm jealous of my brothers 2005 black on black Mustang GT, I finally got to drive it and it was instant love making for me. I just felt so good to drive. So I'm looking forward to graduating college at the end of the year and then buying a 2006 Cobra just to top him. I hope they keep that ram air hood on the Cobra like in GhostX's icon and on the concept 05 GT that hood is HOTT!

There's no OFFICIAL word or pics on the Cobra yet, is there? If so, can someone please post a link in this thread.

http://www.newagegto.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3695

This is one of the better pictures I've seen of the new Cobra. I don't know if what this guy is saying is true in any way but it's something. Anyway, this guy posted a picture of the new Cobra along with stats and figures to go with it.

I got 3 quotes, o.O Anyways, The saleen makes 400 HP w/ a supercharger, only 325 HP without

I would LOVE to see the 5.0 come back simply because that .4 liters is actually a pretty big piece thats missing, In fact, I'd give my left...(thinks) I'd give up my 95 GT for a 06 Cobra w/ the Crammar.

That Cobra is Badd. The duck tail really sets it off. But I agree with some of those guys over there the price im sure will be around $40K easy probably base price.

Ok, since no ones said it yet. I think it would be sweet if they put in a version of the 351 V-10 mod motor. It could easily make 500hp with some tuning. Its the basis for the GR-1, Cobra Concept, and 427 Concept motors, just smaller. I belive it had around 450hp in the GT test mule.

Ok, since no ones said it yet. I think it would be sweet if they put in a version of the 351 V-10 mod motor. It could easily make 500hp with some tuning. Its the basis for the GR-1, Cobra Concept, and 427 Concept motors, just smaller. I belive it had around 450hp in the GT test mule.

While we're pipe dreaming here a little bit, I'm going to say what I'd like to see in the new 06 Mustang Cobra. I'd like to see the V10 that was in the A/C Cobra concept car. A Mustang with 600 hp and 500 lb/tq would destroy what compitition it has left.

I mentioned the V10 two pages ago. Also, the thing makes a strong 600 hp and 500 lb/tq as it did with the A/C Cobra. If a Mustang put down the same numbers as the thing did with the A/C it'd be awesome. Just think what it'd be like with a Mustang doing 0-60 in 3.3, 200 mph plus as a top speed, and the 1/4 mile in the low 11s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/ghostbonzz/17504adarkm.jpg

This is just a kit car, but I WANT THE REAL THING BAD! I would take one over the Cobra!

PLEASE FORD! GIVE US THE MUSTANG GT-R! I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT!

ANYTHING ;)

The upcoming Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra (Carroll's name needs to be on it) should have a 440 hp 5.0 V-8 like the 2004 Ford Mustang GT-R.

http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/gtrconcept28.jpg

Also, how about an independent rear suspension?

have you ever seen anything so beautiful?

Don't make me beg ford!

Oh, yeah, according to motortrend, I don't know how reliable they are, but they said IRS will be an option. I think it should be standard this time. Well, if we can't get this motor above, maybe ford will five us a specialty mustang, like the Cobra R.

Here's hoping:cheers:

why would u want a 5.0 dohc instead of a 5.4? doesnt make a lot of sense to me. i love what theyre doing with the cobra, and if they were to bring back a old pushrod motor like some wished for on here the only way id like that is if it was very similar to the old 351 boss motor.

Push rods is making a step back. The 3v engine is the way to go, as long as they can get the exhaust to extract a little more air.

Give me a 5.4, 3v, twin turbo, 9:1, 3.55 gears, IRS, 23mpg, 6 speed, pushing 600hp and I will be a happy camper.

exactly what i was trying to get at...

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=380529

This question is only for those who are educated in modular engines. the cobra 4v and the mustang 3v engines.

Please see the link for the question.