Cavalier

sounds like a plan around dec 11th 12th, and anyone that wants to run come give it a try


Hey Tsi, what do you trap? We can do it on I96

LOL hey buddy I was runnin 14.7's at 93!! mph with no nitrous just short ram and exhuast with a shitter 60' and a broken motor mount.

my car weighs around 2,400...you will own me on a road course? yea right!! sure my car is setup for drag racing but even so I would rape you on a course and a track no nitrous needed.

Fixed motor mount and new tires I could see low 14's without nitrous

with nitrous I could see mid 13's with the same setup.

with a 50 shot of N02 you only ran .4 tenths of a second faster? I thought a 50 shot was supposed to be around 50HP boost? With 50 HP my car lost 1.4 seconds in the 1320, yours it only lost 4 tenths of a second? gimmie a break. You dont run 14.7 without N02 and only 14.3 with a 50 shot. Anways you have 400 lbs on me, i thought the rule of thumb was for every 100lbs you had 1 tenth of a second to the 1320, correct me if im wrong. Even at that, if you put your car to 2800lbs, you should be just about where i am right now if not slower just for the fact that i am 2800lbs with 200HP and you would be 2800lbs with 180HP. As for the road course, you will get spanked buddy. I thought your engine was the 180HP@7600 RPM one? Im not sure, i dont pay attention. Anways if its, that engine doesnt produce power untill it gets high into the RPMS. I dont see how you could keep up on a road coars that has alot of turns and breaking. I get to full power almost instantly.

So in reality, my car owns your car. The only reason your car is faster in the drag is cause of N02 and weight. Not to mention mines got power everything, and your 91 prolly has nothing, i doubt you even have AC.

well if you guys do race i wanna see the vids!!!!!

Ok let me school you here.

I have a 91 crx si top of the line for a crx, it had ac, I took it out I am not a pussy I dont require it. It has a power sunroof and everything else is manual...I dont mind rolling down a window im not lazy. It has 4 wheel disc brakes, double wishbone suspension and an interior that blows yours away.

I have a 50 shot yes, I only ran the car 4-6 times at the track with nitrous I could not get the launch down to where I wouldent spin enough to pull out decent times. 2nd gear would also spin alot. 14.3 at 99mph was my best and my mph had been increasing every run. It's an easy 13 second car I just didnt run it enough times to get it down. Now without nitrous I have an LS which is lets say 140hp 126 tq factory in a 2,300-400 pound car which I ran 14.7 @ 92-93mph with a BROKEN MOTOR MOUNT. It was so bad the motor would hit the firewall thats how much flex there was you know how much hp that robs?

So I have a lighter car with torque and good hp and lower rpms and with a better handling car I would wax your ass all over a road course.

Your car owns my car in maybe...gayness? I have the better looks, quicker car better handling and better braking car.

nice crx!

lol 140HP and you run 14.7@92MPH, lol i dont even believe you anymore. I dont care if the car is only 2400lbs, a toyota Celica GTS has 180HP and 2500 lbs and its 14.7-15 flat. LOL and did you say good torque with 126 lbs? LMAO. Please even the 2.2L baseline cavy made 120 lbs of torque. Im calling BS on your times. I dont care how light your car is and how good of a driver you are, 140HP wont put a 2400lbs car with a broken motor mount to a 14.7. I mean give me a fucking break here. The ecotec cavalier has 140HP and 150lbs of torque and weighs in around 2700 lbs, it can only do high 15's. Are you sure you were looking at the right time on the slip? Or did this all happen in a dream? And how come you keep saying 4-6 times, thats not alot to remember. As for your interior being nicer, LMAO your interior is almost 14 years old. Gimmie a break. Ill take my econobox cavalier with its power windows, locks, mirrors, doors, trunk, AC, Fog Lights, automatic trans, a stock sound system that makes my old 350 dollar one sound like shit, my 16 inch aluminum wheels with Eagle One RSAs, and 200HP and 200lbs of torque any day over your ricer.

Ok let me school you here.

I have a 91 crx si top of the line for a crx, it had ac, I took it out I am not a pussy I dont require it. It has a power sunroof and everything else is manual...I dont mind rolling down a window im not lazy. It has 4 wheel disc brakes, double wishbone suspension and an interior that blows yours away.

I have a 50 shot yes, I only ran the car 4-6 times at the track with nitrous I could not get the launch down to where I wouldent spin enough to pull out decent times. 2nd gear would also spin alot. 14.3 at 99mph was my best and my mph had been increasing every run. It's an easy 13 second car I just didnt run it enough times to get it down. Now without nitrous I have an LS which is lets say 140hp 126 tq factory in a 2,300-400 pound car which I ran 14.7 @ 92-93mph with a BROKEN MOTOR MOUNT. It was so bad the motor would hit the firewall thats how much flex there was you know how much hp that robs?

So I have a lighter car with torque and good hp and lower rpms and with a better handling car I would wax your ass all over a road course.

Your car owns my car in maybe...gayness? I have the better looks, quicker car better handling and better braking car.

Man, i don't trust your numbers. Do you have any slips? I used to own a DX which weighs around 2500 lbs if I remeber correctly with a Vtec JDM D15B (127, just 13 less than you)intake, header, exhaust and I'd be lucky to hit high 15s. I didn't even have power steering. That 14.7 with a unmodified LS just sounds way off. Also, your trap speed is quiet high for a 140 hp 4 banger, even if it only weighs 2400 lbs.

I call BS on your times until I see some slips. It just doesn't sound right.

both of you dont know what your talking about, ask anyone around here. for one I have been around longer than both of you put together and then some. I dont lie theres tons of people on here that know and believe my times. Just because two noobs dont understand my times doesent make me give a fuck.

I ran 14.7 @92-93 mph with no nitrous
I ran 14.3 @99 mph with a 50 shot.

Yes the nitrous time was slow I know, but I did run those times.

You had a dx with weak hp and weak tq and you probaby cant drive...deal with it.

because you two know nothing of drag racing dont call bs on my times.

[QUOTE=TypeS]Man, i don't trust your numbers. Do you have any slips? I used to own a DX which weighs around 2500 lbs if I remeber correctly with a Vtec JDM D15B (127, just 13 less than you)intake, header, exhaust and I'd be lucky to hit high 15s. I didn't even have power steering. That 14.7 with a unmodified LS just sounds way off. Also, your trap speed is quiet high for a 140 hp 4 banger, even if it only weighs 2400 lbs. [QUOTE]

TypeS just out of curiousity, did you own a coupe/4dr/or Hatch. If you happened to own a Civic DX with the VTEC D15, then you should only have about 115 HP, the EX is 125 HP (which is what I own). So if you were hitting high 15's with a somewhat heavier car with substantially less horsepower (even with int, exh, and headers) then I would have to say that his CRX's quarter time is somewhat correct even with spray. As for the Trap time, I would have to agree and say that the mph is quite high as you said. But I'm also no professional with Hondas. I don't tend to pay too much attention to the lower based model cars (Civic DX, LX, and HX). But I'm guessing with the 2400lb CRX and the LS Vtec Motor including intake, and exhaust, he's at about 150 HP. Without spray that is. I could be wrong in the matter but that is generally what I know about Honda's and Acura's. I'm sure you could prove me wrong, but this is my :2cents: . Late...

I have an LS no vtec.

car weighs anywhere from 2,300-2,400lbs

I can drive

with the motor mount fixed I could go faster than 14.7 with no nitrous and faster than 14.3 with nitrous it could go faster than 14.3 with nitrous anyway, I just never had it down.

You had a dx with weak hp and weak tq


Yes, I admit it was weak, but it only had 13 less hp than yours, which just tells me how weak yours must be. On top of that, I had a few bolt ons.

You say a 140 hp engine is not week, but a 127 hp engine with a few bolt ons that probably brings is close to 140 hp is "weak" They're actually both very week. I think high 15s is what you would run.

I don't care how long you've been a member, and I don't care who you know, but as long as I don't see a slip, I don't believe you. That's all I gotta say. Maybe I'm pesimistic or maybe your little Civic friends who think your little 140hp monster runs that are too optimistic, either way, I don't believe you.

And being here longer doesn't make your time faster, sorry.

Post some slips and I'll shut my mouth.

And even though I owned a Civic, I'd rather drive a newer Cavalier than a 91 hatchback. Even if his Cavalier was slower, which it isn't, a faster car doesn't make it a better car. Yeah, you'll save some gas, but you'll hear every little stone that hits your car on your way to the gas station.

hmmm, cavvies arent too shabby as daily drivers, but if you are going for drag, dont get one. If you are goin for handling, still dont get one. I would reccomend a 1G DSM (GSX or Tsi AWD) if you want the drag, or an older 240 or a miata for the handling. Jayson...stfu and stop arguing about cavaliers and civics. Niether of them were meant to be sports cars, but both of them are nice cars... but civics PWN the reliability and intro. mod department, better than cavy IMO. If you really are that concerned about looks, then I really dont know what to say to you cause good looking and high performing dont usually come cheap. Supra is a nice choice too, no doubt, probably the closest to the good looking and high performance. But please....dont go with the riced out cavalier, theres just so many better things you can spend your money on. Up to you, so whatever makes you happy. You can make any car fast, it just might take more money for some.

Your right, the LS motor is non-VTEC. Just googled it, and found out it's at about 142 HP. They do have a frankenstein motor though dont they? Well, either way, I believe you. Just out of curiousity, do you know how much the 1992-95 Civic Coupes weigh? Just want to get a general idea of what I could run in the 1/4. Maybe I'll just google it. Late...

I dont own a 91 hatchback

you should just quit life buddy your a faggot. cavaliers are gay and his is slow...end of story.

civichbsi91 did run a 14.7 at 93 mph, I was there to witness it. don't call BS because you can't run 14.7's. I ran a 15.3 w/the same setup in a '89 hatch, and it was my first time ever runnin at the track, w/some practice and getting used to my car I could've easily hit 14.9's w/intake and exhaust and I have full interior., and he consistantly runs 14.8's everytime we go to the track so Don't call BS :nono:

TypeS just out of curiousity, did you own a coupe/4dr/or Hatch. If you happened to own a Civic DX with the VTEC D15, then you should only have about 115 HP, the EX is 125 HP (which is what I own). So if you were hitting high 15's with a somewhat heavier car with substantially less horsepower (even with int, exh, and headers) then I would have to say that his CRX's quarter time is somewhat correct even with spray. As for the Trap time, I would have to agree and say that the mph is quite high as you said. But I'm also no professional with Hondas. I don't tend to pay too much attention to the lower based model cars (Civic DX, LX, and HX). But I'm guessing with the 2400lb CRX and the LS Vtec Motor including intake, and exhaust, he's at about 150 HP. Without spray that is. I could be wrong in the matter but that is generally what I know about Honda's and Acura's. I'm sure you could prove me wrong, but this is my :2cents: . Late...

I had a 95 DX coupe. It came stock with a D15B7 which only produced 100 hp (70 to the wheels) I swaped it for a JDM D15B which comes with 127 hp.

Hey, no need to bash. Just let it go. Can't we all just get along?? Peace, Love, Happiness...? J/K. Like it has been said before, everyone has their own opinion about their cars. Just squash the issue. Put an end to it. Alright? Late...

the jdm d15 came with 127 CRANK hp and maybe 108 CRANK tq your whp numbers would be lower, also what ecu did you have with the d15?

tq makes a difference here guys...

the jdm d15 came with 127 CRANK hp and maybe 108 CRANK tq your whp numbers would be lower, also what ecu did you have with the d15?

tq makes a difference here guys...


So you make 140 at the wheels? Now that's different.

I got a chipped Muegen ECU off ebay, it's been a while, I think it was a P06, but I could be wrong. I remember I was running rich so I sent it back and just got an non-chipped one.

no my motor probably makes somewhere around 130whp 120tq less with the motor mount problem.

never had it on a dyno but it is a strong motor.

guys ignore the e.t. time. that only tells you half the story of how good of a take off he had.

with 50 shot of nitrous he gained 6 mph. your also forgeting htat it takes 10 hp to gain .1 of a second. so with a 50 shot which is never an exact 50whp its usually around 40whp he gained 6 mph which is around what 60 whp would give.

most of those civics with a B16 swap are high 14 second cars. thats with 160hp. so with a B18B with a bolt ons with no accessory's he should be close to low 150 crank hp range. now he has a GS-R swap with 175 hp stock. with no acessories, and 50 shot of nitrous and full bolt ons. he should be making around 230-240 crank hp.

trust me i am not a honda fan. however his civic is definitly a high 13 second capable car judging by his trap speed.

Its a CRX!!!! lol

Are you saying I have a gsr? or just saying thats what a gsr would do?

Yea , I know a friend who have a z24 and he droped a turbo /exaust/ and new cluch in it and can run a 13.8 all day at the tracks.

Its a CRX!!!! lol

Are you saying I have a gsr? or just saying thats what a gsr would do?


lol, I know, where did the GSR come from? And B16s in Civics are pretty much like Sis, which are mid 15 sec cars

civichbsi91 did run a 14.7 at 93 mph, I was there to witness it. don't call BS because you can't run 14.7's. I ran a 15.3 w/the same setup in a '89 hatch, and it was my first time ever runnin at the track, w/some practice and getting used to my car I could've easily hit 14.9's w/intake and exhaust and I have full interior., and he consistantly runs 14.8's everytime we go to the track so Don't call BS :nono:


wtf are you talking about, he says hes only raced the car 4-6 times. What do you mean everytime at the track? I get 6-10 runs in, in a single night.

And shut up civicHBsi91, you call my car slow, but you run the exact same time. . . if its true, which i doubt.

And ill never believe a car with only 140HP and a weak 126lb of torque and 2400lbs, can run anything better than mid to low 15's.

Its a CRX!!!! lol

Are you saying I have a gsr? or just saying thats what a gsr would do?

i always thought you had a B18C1 in your CRX

TypeS im not sure what my trap is, it was right when i got the car i took it to the track, im sure it runs a little faster now because my afc was all messed up and it would miss at around 5000 rpms so i had to shit before that, i have not gone to the track now that i got the afc fixed and tuned it a little. i have a couple of spots around the area that i know we can race at, we can just do like from a stop,then 25 then 45 then 65 and see what happens.

TypeS im not sure what my trap is, it was right when i got the car i took it to the track, im sure it runs a little faster now because my afc was all messed up and it would miss at around 5000 rpms so i had to shit before that, i have not gone to the track now that i got the afc fixed and tuned it a little. i have a couple of spots around the area that i know we can race at, we can just do like from a stop,then 25 then 45 then 65 and see what happens.

Sounds good.

Yea , I know a friend who have a z24 and he droped a turbo /exaust/ and new cluch in it and can run a 13.8 all day at the tracks.


wow really he only dropped a turbo, that is it :rolleyes:

wtf are you talking about, he says hes only raced the car 4-6 times. What do you mean everytime at the track? I get 6-10 runs in, in a single night.

And shut up civicHBsi91, you call my car slow, but you run the exact same time. . . if its true, which i doubt.

And ill never believe a car with only 140HP and a weak 126lb of torque and 2400lbs, can run anything better than mid to low 15's.

4-6 times with nitrous buddy, READ. I have run over 60 times this season without nitrous. when I first started I ran a 15.4 and brought it down to a consistant 14.7 that .7 off my time with just learning how to drive it. not being able to handle the car fully yet in 1st gear with nitrous I would spin my ass off.

your damn right its slow for a SUPERCHARGED car.

You'll never believe it? well then your a fucking dumbass sir.

tat - I only have an LS no gsr...

Ok let me school you here.

I have a 91 crx si top of the line for a crx, it had ac, I took it out I am not a pussy I dont require it. It has a power sunroof and everything else is manual...I dont mind rolling down a window im not lazy. It has 4 wheel disc brakes, double wishbone suspension and an interior that blows yours away.

I have a 50 shot yes, I only ran the car 4-6 times at the track with nitrous I could not get the launch down to where I wouldent spin enough to pull out decent times. 2nd gear would also spin alot. 14.3 at 99mph was my best and my mph had been increasing every run. It's an easy 13 second car I just didnt run it enough times to get it down. Now without nitrous I have an LS which is lets say 140hp 126 tq factory in a 2,300-400 pound car which I ran 14.7 @ 92-93mph with a BROKEN MOTOR MOUNT. It was so bad the motor would hit the firewall thats how much flex there was you know how much hp that robs?

So I have a lighter car with torque and good hp and lower rpms and with a better handling car I would wax your ass all over a road course.

Your car owns my car in maybe...gayness? I have the better looks, quicker car better handling and better braking car.

Why is AC always considerd bad. I have it and I run low 11's

I think there is enough flaming and cussing and trash talking for one thread don't you think?

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Why is AC always considerd bad. I have it and I run low 11's

I think there is enough flaming and cussing and trash talking for one thread don't you think?

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