Preprogrammed PCM/ECM
Mackab
11-22-2004, 05:29 AM
I am currently in the US Navy stationed overseas in Italy and I chose to bring my 2000 Windstar over with me. I had all the problems with P0171/P0174 codes and changed everything including the complete TSB 03-16-1 EXCEPT the PCM recalibration. By the way, we have no Ford dealer here in Italy capable of the reprogram. My question is, does the PCM need to be in my vehicle to get reprogrammed, and most importantly, is there anyone out there willing to help a Sailor get one that has the current proper programming in accordance with TSB 03-16-1 so I can swap mine out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. My van is a 2000 Ford Windstar, 3.8L, 63,000 miles, VIN# 2FMZA5148YBB10545.
VR, Mike
VR, Mike
12Ounce
11-22-2004, 09:30 AM
Mackab
I'm certainly no expert, but will share what info I "think" was in the shop manual concerning the subject. When the auto is first assembled, there are several components that get coded together in an "electronic marriage" (my words). This is part of the anti-theft scheme and thereafter these components will not work unless all together. These components include the keys, the PCM, the instrument cluster (#1 in the hierarchy) ... and perhaps the key transciever in the steering column (PATS..???). So I don't think your plan of borrowing a PCM will work. (Obviously, in case of some component failure, the dealer has a method of restarting the whole coding process.)
By the way, I did my lower intake repairs ('99 SEL) perhaps before the TSB reprogramming was published. I've never taken the time to have the reprogramming done. My engine runs pretty good, tho it will rattle occasionally when cold and loaded up. I use regular gas.
I'm certainly no expert, but will share what info I "think" was in the shop manual concerning the subject. When the auto is first assembled, there are several components that get coded together in an "electronic marriage" (my words). This is part of the anti-theft scheme and thereafter these components will not work unless all together. These components include the keys, the PCM, the instrument cluster (#1 in the hierarchy) ... and perhaps the key transciever in the steering column (PATS..???). So I don't think your plan of borrowing a PCM will work. (Obviously, in case of some component failure, the dealer has a method of restarting the whole coding process.)
By the way, I did my lower intake repairs ('99 SEL) perhaps before the TSB reprogramming was published. I've never taken the time to have the reprogramming done. My engine runs pretty good, tho it will rattle occasionally when cold and loaded up. I use regular gas.
gschretter
11-29-2004, 02:01 PM
I had the same problem for years.
P0171 / P0174 - lean in both banks.
0. Disconnect the battery
1. Removed screen in front of MAF
2. Clean throttle body with B-12
This is what fixed the problem.
3. Sprayed B-12 all over the MAF sensors that is inside the air intake tube.
4. let it sit over night to dry.
Started the van up and the engine codes have not come back.
Now I can lay a black mark down the road in the van ( I KNOW BEFORE YOU SAY IT)
At www.alldata.com I found a doc about how the MAF sensor gets dirty and the readings are bad. They said I should replace but I at least first tried to clean the MAF.
Also I took off the IAC and clean it. Before my idle was all over the place.
Now my wife's van is a fire breathing grocery getter
Also this problem occurs if you use a K&N filter, why the oil gets on the MAF sensor..... I read this for a 1 ton chevy 2000 at alldata.com
P0171 / P0174 - lean in both banks.
0. Disconnect the battery
1. Removed screen in front of MAF
2. Clean throttle body with B-12
This is what fixed the problem.
3. Sprayed B-12 all over the MAF sensors that is inside the air intake tube.
4. let it sit over night to dry.
Started the van up and the engine codes have not come back.
Now I can lay a black mark down the road in the van ( I KNOW BEFORE YOU SAY IT)
At www.alldata.com I found a doc about how the MAF sensor gets dirty and the readings are bad. They said I should replace but I at least first tried to clean the MAF.
Also I took off the IAC and clean it. Before my idle was all over the place.
Now my wife's van is a fire breathing grocery getter
Also this problem occurs if you use a K&N filter, why the oil gets on the MAF sensor..... I read this for a 1 ton chevy 2000 at alldata.com
islandguy1969
12-01-2004, 07:49 PM
I had the same problem for years.
P0171 / P0174 - lean in both banks.
0. Disconnect the battery
1. Removed screen in front of MAF
2. Clean throttle body with B-12
This is what fixed the problem.
3. Sprayed B-12 all over the MAF sensors that is inside the air intake tube.
4. let it sit over night to dry.
Started the van up and the engine codes have not come back.
Now I can lay a black mark down the road in the van ( I KNOW BEFORE YOU SAY IT)
At www.alldata.com I found a doc about how the MAF sensor gets dirty and the readings are bad. They said I should replace but I at least first tried to clean the MAF.
Also I took off the IAC and clean it. Before my idle was all over the place.
Now my wife's van is a fire breathing grocery getter
Also this problem occurs if you use a K&N filter, why the oil gets on the MAF sensor..... I read this for a 1 ton chevy 2000 at alldata.com
Hey gschretter, what is B-12 my '99 winnie might benefit
P0171 / P0174 - lean in both banks.
0. Disconnect the battery
1. Removed screen in front of MAF
2. Clean throttle body with B-12
This is what fixed the problem.
3. Sprayed B-12 all over the MAF sensors that is inside the air intake tube.
4. let it sit over night to dry.
Started the van up and the engine codes have not come back.
Now I can lay a black mark down the road in the van ( I KNOW BEFORE YOU SAY IT)
At www.alldata.com I found a doc about how the MAF sensor gets dirty and the readings are bad. They said I should replace but I at least first tried to clean the MAF.
Also I took off the IAC and clean it. Before my idle was all over the place.
Now my wife's van is a fire breathing grocery getter
Also this problem occurs if you use a K&N filter, why the oil gets on the MAF sensor..... I read this for a 1 ton chevy 2000 at alldata.com
Hey gschretter, what is B-12 my '99 winnie might benefit
gschretter
12-01-2004, 07:52 PM
Hey gschretter, what is B-12 my '99 winnie might benefit
B-12 Carb Cleaner - ask for it at any auto parts store. - get the spray can.
I clean everything with it.
Branks before I replace them and so on.
It is used to clean throttle body's plates and carbs.
You be amazed how dity a throttle body gets with 60,000 miles.
My wife told me today that her van has never run as good as it does today.
B-12 Carb Cleaner - ask for it at any auto parts store. - get the spray can.
I clean everything with it.
Branks before I replace them and so on.
It is used to clean throttle body's plates and carbs.
You be amazed how dity a throttle body gets with 60,000 miles.
My wife told me today that her van has never run as good as it does today.
islandguy1969
12-02-2004, 08:11 PM
B-12 Carb Cleaner - ask for it at any auto parts store. - get the spray can.
I clean everything with it.
Branks before I replace them and so on.
It is used to clean throttle body's plates and carbs.
You be amazed how dity a throttle body gets with 60,000 miles.
My wife told me today that her van has never run as good as it does today.
THANKS DUDE UR ON THE MONEY ABOUT B 12
I clean everything with it.
Branks before I replace them and so on.
It is used to clean throttle body's plates and carbs.
You be amazed how dity a throttle body gets with 60,000 miles.
My wife told me today that her van has never run as good as it does today.
THANKS DUDE UR ON THE MONEY ABOUT B 12
gschretter
12-02-2004, 08:54 PM
THANKS DUDE UR ON THE MONEY ABOUT B 12
No prob glad I could help.
:biggrin:
No prob glad I could help.
:biggrin:
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