EVO MR FQ400 vs. Corvette Z06 vs. Mustang Cobra R

don't equate dumb people with ricers.
the dumb people don't appreciate that and deserve better.

I'm not equating dumb people with ricers; I'm equating dumb people who worship the Skyline GT-R and blindly defend all Japanese cars with ricers. :)

lol @ that.

swings both ways though... i was recently told i'd "never see an american car in your(my) rear vision mirror"... that's pretty blind to me.

Yup, there are plenty of morons on both sides. I don't see why people can't just be unbiased and get along as car enthusiasts.

this is a good comparo... i only made it to page three so i have no idea where this thread has gone, just adding my two cents... i would honestly pic the cobra, based on 1. rarity (dunno if thats a word) and 2. it has the best engine out of the bunch (5.4 DOHC, amazing). performance i gotta give the evo the nod but quality and overall drivability goes to the vette... but if i had it my way it would be a Mustang GT-R, an 06 Z06 and the evo... man that would be fun to watch.

ok its 3 in the morning and ive finally finished reading all the pages... now then i hope i can make it through this awake... as for in house, i think the point being made was that the evo was stripped down and moddified by another company (and unless im understanding this wrong its not like svt, svt is ford, its fords top engineers using ford top facilities to design fords top cars. they dont get ford cars and strip them, theyre built like that from the get go where as mitsu has an entire outside company on the payroll rebuild or modify them), and just cause the mitsu backs it with a warranty is a crappy excuse, its modified by a third party none the less so people can say whatever they want but when it comes down to it at least chevy does 100% of the work on their own cars, and i didnt know mitsu used third party companies and frankly that kinda pisses me off, ive lost alot of respect for them and that car. now then, like i previously said, the vette is higher quality but the evo has better performance, that will all change with the next z06, ill guaruntee it... and the best thing is itll be 100% chevrolet.

not quite.
the FQ400 is done by Ralliart and the outside 'help' as it were, was to optimise the use of their parts and in some cases, they were specially made for the car. Everyone uses third party parts and help. That's the point.

in this case, mitsubish/ralliart specified something they wanted and got the best help they could to do it.
after all, want the best, get the best to help.

point is, all of the cars on the list are stock.

I think the FQ400 is kind of like the Saleen Mustangs the are backed by the company, but not intirly done in house. The Saleen starts out as a Mustang GT. Like the FQ400 starts as a MR.(correct me if i'm wrong). The Z06 on the other hand is compleatly Chevy. Just like SVT is all Ford.

Edit:Or maybe the Saleen Mustang isn't quite the same because they use their own performace parts not things so redlely avalable.

i just think this word "modded" is used to loosely by some people here. if a guy at the strip wanted to run you and you asked "what are you running?" and hes says "A modded mustang." and then pulls up to you in a s281 and you say "what'd you do to it?" and he says "nothing", id call him an idiot.

i personally believe that you cant buy a "modded" car new from the factory, but thats just me. if its new and you havent changed anything on it, its not modified. thats the way you bought it, but hey, what the hell do i know *fills mug*

and wut im basically saying is mitsu had a huge advantage over the competition and really doesnt deserve credit for the car... u dont see ford takin credit for saleen mustangs, no because saleens the one that made the car into what it is, without saleen its just another mustang..

I'm not equating dumb people with ricers; I'm equating dumb people who worship the Skyline GT-R and blindly defend all Japanese cars with ricers. :)

Well...ain't the other guy defend the vette too? if u click back a couple page...u will realise he first said that rich chick dig vette...then i reply that they will take Benz or Bently(i go to a pretty expensive school i know how they act ^ ^")...then he say that those girl will be bitching soo much about money etc....he forgot that real rich ppl never talk about money because money for them is nothing. and plus when he bought up the 3rd party thing Z06 itself has alot of 3rd party hand on it.
and as for hand him a beer sorry i really didn't get that ^ ^". u can see that the whole post just spin around in cycle because if u read some of the last post it is going back to where it started again. and no i don't blindly defend all Japanese cars. so kman10587 before u start commenting on ppl plz check what had been going on around here first...also i think this post will never have an end to it. soo maybe we shall just leave it at this and all of us who posted here all should deserve some erdinger :)

The EVO takes it in every category.
The zo6 is stale and seriously in need of restyling, and no the headlights arent enough.

the evo is edgy and dosent look like anything else on the road.

One drawback is the active yaw control. dont get me wrong i love the controll it give you but its too much control. it dosent make you work at all. it really lets you know that YOU are the dumbest slowest part of the car.

Well...ain't the other guy defend the vette too? if u click back a couple page...u will realise he first said that rich chick dig vette...then i reply that they will take Benz or Bently(i go to a pretty expensive school i know how they act ^ ^")...then he say that those girl will be bitching soo much about money etc....he forgot that real rich ppl never talk about money because money for them is nothing.
Ah no.
I think you will find that it was DVS-LT1's post that dealt with the issue of wether or not a Corvette makes an impression on women. Personally I think there is no all-purpose "chick magnet" car, as a woman’s taste in autos is just as diverse and varied as our own. Different cars will have a different impression on different people.


Incidentally does this post belong to you?:
I will take the EVO over the corvette...just think about this...both car has around the same performance rite? EVO do 9.7km/l how much does corvette do? plus also EVO's 4G63 red line is at 7500RPM but the Vette's is only at 6500 RPM...Vette's engine suddenly sound a bit normal? (i know big engine are harder to crank up high rpm, but the new M5 redline is at 8250RPM). Turbo lag? no power at low rpm? well we were talking about racing ain't we? in race ppl always had their rpm in the boost range don't they? and as for chick.....don't u guys think they watch 2F2F? The main character drive? EVO.

From what I am gathering from the end of this post is that you’re theory is an EVO will have a profound sexual magnetism on women because the main character from 2F2F drives one.
I think I remember replying to this one telling you that it is just a movie and not to be taken seriously. I mean people who bought Delorens back in the late 80's didn’t get tons of action because it was the same car Marty McFly drove. :lol:

and plus when he bought up the 3rd party thing Z06 itself has alot of 3rd party hand on it.
Well come on then, you’re the expert. Tell us which tuning house fabricated parts for the Z06.
I mean technically there could be some involvement from other GM divisions and GM owned companies but I doubt very much that the Z06 has received anywhere near the amount of 3rd party attention as the FQ400.
so kman10587 before u start commenting on ppl plz check what had been going on around here first...also i think this post will never have an end to it. soo maybe we shall just leave it at this and all of us who posted here all should deserve some erdinger :)
I think "kman10587" had a go at you because of the post below:

I agree~ :iceslolan he ran out of excues to use....FQ400 is better!
To declare a car as simply better without any explanation is a pretty arrogant thing to do. I mean it is in you’re right to think the FQ400 is better but even if you do not wish to make an explanation the least you could of done was to use the prefix “I think” or “In my honest opinion”.
Also you ought to do something about you’re signature. I don't mean to harass you or anything but despite the stereotype with regards to people who like to use the words "Skyline" and "God" in the same context, is the fact that if someone were to read out you're signature it would sound like pigeon English.


Allow me to make some corrections and suggestions to you’re signature:

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The line where heaven meet<(met) earth, where human<(humans OR humanity) receive<(received) (the) fastest gift (from OR of) God(.)
(The) Nissan Skyline GT-R(.)
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Make these changes and you should be all set.


The EVO takes it in every category.
The zo6 is stale and seriously in need of restyling, and no the headlights arent enough.

the evo is edgy and dosent look like anything else on the road.
The EVO takes it in every category? WRONG.
Firstly the Z06 is cheaper. The only reason it cost about the same as the FQ400 in the UK is the Government tariffs. Fundamentally the Z06 costs less.
Also the FQ400 wouldn’t be all that good in some places other then the UK. In the US the FQ400 would have to get used to crappy low octane fuel and would definitely bear the penalty of the gas-guzzler tax. Also in some states there may be emissions regulations that would cripple it. The Z06 has avoided all of these.

Next is where I live in Australia. Around here I wouldn’t want to be driving from Perth to Albany in a high output 4cyl. I would have to pull over to vomit every 30km because of the vibration. Also in my experience with 4cyl cars I’ve nearly always known them to dramatically increase their fuel consumption and/or lower their performance if the air-conditioner is set to max on a hot day. At least with a V8 you get a smoother feeling engine that will hardly be affected by the parasitic load of an air-conditioner.

Now then about styling I would have to say that the Vette looks brilliant. Certainly miles ahead of the EVO, which in my opinion is one of the most hideous things on the road. In fact the EVO reminds me of those cheap Chinese made toy cars they sell in supermarkets that have stickers on them like "Team super turbo" or "Ultra fast nitro racing team". I find the EVO’s looks too cheesy, tacky and above all too tryhard boyracer like.
Nevertheless some people might like that chunky transformer inspired robo-tech look but I think most will prefer the mix of sleek sexy curves with the practicality of good aerodynamics that exist in pure sports cars like the Corvette, NSX, 300ZX..ect. But then with the FQ400 it was never about looks anyway.

hey! robots are tough ok!?

hey! robots are tough ok!?
ROBOTS ARE WEAK!
Honda spent all that time making a bi-pedal robot that can climb steps and yet it can't do Kung-Foo kicks or Riverdance. HA!

Until a robot comes up to me in a pub stuffing a broken bottle in my face and saying, "stitch that jimmie" then I’m afraid I have to consider all robots totally un-fistworthy.

If you don’t believe me then you can ask Steve Fox (the guy in the flaming Ford Fiesta screaming WEAK! out the window). So there! :p


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Eh, my original posts were confined to the context(s) of this thread - a Ferrari may be faster than an Evo but who gives a shit, we're not comparing a Ferrari here...

Once again, I'll push speed and performance aside (because the cars being compared here are all quick one way or the other). My point was (and I thought the point of this thread was) if I had a choice to pick one of the three I'd pick the Vette because even if its not the fastest of the bunch, its close enough to being the best. The clincher for me is the IMAGE the Vette has over the Mitsubishi or the Ford - it is a much more exotic car. I really don't think you can debate the issue. The fully-loaded Mustang interior leaves much to be desired in the first place, let alone the amenity stripped interior of the Cobra R (plus between the GT's and 6-bangers there's so many Stang's out on the road). I've never seen the interior of an "EVO" Lancer because they're banned for some reason here in Canada - which is stupid because that car would be simply awesome up here in the snow... but my friend has a base model Lancer and as far as the interior dimensions go its your basic econobox four-door fart car. I'm sure (I'd at least hope) that this tunned up factory freak Mitsu we're talking about is decked out in brushed aluminum and carbon fiber trim, with racing seats and plaques and embroidered emblems, etc... I'm sure the interior looks really spiffy, but when all is said and done its still going to be a friggin BOX! The ZO6 on the other hand epitomizes the true sports car: your ass rides an inch above the ground, its a two seater, you feel like your crawling into torpedo tubes when you get in. Plus, having been spoiled with Heads Up Display on three previous Grand Prix's and I think the Vette is put in a totally different class with its HUD system (even more advanced than the GP's version). So getting back to my original sentiments I know that different people will like different cars - the Evo I'm sure really hits a cord with the younger crowd (heck you can actually stuff half a dozen of your pals in one of those things for a night out). For me, the ZO6 would be the only option - I'd probably take a base Vette over the other two (or at least sell the most expensive one to get a Vette lol). And as I alluded to before, that front passenger seat in the C5 would be reserved for a very special and leggy woman. "Sorry buddy, ya I know I drove you here but you're on your own now - go squeeze yourself into Dan's Evo!"

as soon as you said Canada i stopped reading.......nah im just kidding. anyways, different strokes for different folks.

Apparently the Evo's don't meet our front crash test standards at low speeds - its one of those cars where you bump a pole at 5 km/h and the entire front end needs to be replaced. I hear "they" (our gov't??) are going to raise the speed of the slow test next year and the Evo will pass - I guess having to spend a few grand to replace the front bumper after a 10-15 km/h fender bender doesn't sound as bad as a 2-5 km/h hit.

Will be nice to see new game on our roads... :naughty:

hi all
just signed up after reading all 10 pages .

im sure there all good cars.

i own a fq-400 and i can say its fast and what topgear said about it ,, well dont listen to that..

turning lock is no different then any other car ,,, think he took the piss a bit.

mpg is about 200 miles on about £50 petol thats hard and normal driving.

turbo lag ,,,, well starts spining at about 3000 rpm ,,, full boost at 4000 rpm

if anyone wants any pictures i can email you some..

thanks jason from uk

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lol there's nothing stating specifically what OLD is... it's kinda good to get some info from someone who actually HAS one of these rare beasts... i wanna know how his tyres go.

hi

yeah tyres still ok after 6,000 miles....

does anyone now why i cant post any piccy ?

jason

:screwy:

Uh? This thread is a bloody year old!!


I gotta start unsubsribing to threads when I'm done with them... :disappoin

hi

yeah tyres still ok after 6,000 miles....

does anyone now why i cant post any piccy ?

jason

Well since the threads up might as well post some pictures of your ride...

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