Skyline Vs Mustang

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Ok sami,

What tires were you using? R1's


450 to the ground. How do I get there? And how much did it cost? When I went the Dyno shoot out a few months ago, the highest GTR was only 424, and that thing was loaded with parts.

Hemi,

That 71 for your avatar, is my dream car. And back in High School we would cruise in a '69 Barracuda, those were the day. Your car is awesome, I just wish it was more for the street.

My Stang, would beat sami's GTR in the 1/4, even with his awd, and more power. Do you beleive me sami?
hahahaha I get her out every once and awhile. thanks by the way. that stang sounds like a beast my wife has a 67 fastback, beautiful car.

My Stang, or GTR whatever. You got a HEMI:eek: :D

How can you even compare the King of all cars, the Skyline, to a WEAK, American car. Of course the Skyline is better and could beat a Mustang. But to put the two up next to each other would be an extremely unfair matchup because the Skyline is so much better. Please Believe

XykoHippo,

That was very informative. I can't wait for your next extremely indepth post:rolleyes:

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
XykoHippo,

That was very informative. I can't wait for your next extremely indepth post:rolleyes:
yea i'm starting to realize lots of ppl in these forums think that american cars are junk or something? I'm being challenged by a CRX in the other thread, I mean c'mon even souped up I don't think its even gonna be a fair race he wants to do it friday.

Your kidding, right. A Hemi, against a CRX.

I would put big bucks down on the CRX getting you out of the hole, and then pulling on you all the way to the finishline:rolleyes:

Today's youth, clueless.

If they would pick up a few books and do some reading, they might just learn something. That would take effort, so I do not think most of them would try. There are a few out there, that have some knowledge, but most are just armchair quaterbacks.

Did I mention that some of these kids know what they are doing, hybridsol is pertty knowledgeable.

Good Luck to both of you:)

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Did I mention that some of these kids know what they are doing, hybridsol is pertty knowledgeable.

Good Luck to both of you:)
ok let me start of by saying I have newfound respect for all you honda driver's, I met up with hybridsol early this afternoon. First of all let me say that I was only expecting 1 guy and 1 car. I was sitting in my living room watching the game, and from the outside I hear a barage of blowoff vlave's. My son who was home with me jumps up and looks outside, I told him about the whole thing b/c I thought he might want to watch. ok I went out the front door to see and a black honda integra was pulling up with a black delsol close behind. The integra passed the house but the delsol stopped right outside, the integra then backed up turned around and parked. the guy in the integra then got out and started yelling across the street del slow! And as soon as they pulled up 2 more honda cars pulled up and a green jeep towing a CRX, the guy in the delsol after fiddeling with something inside his car got out. This kid was at least 6'3 and he had to be over 200 pounds (yea he was a big guy) he said to me I'm sorry Mr. George? I said yes just george and laughed, he introduced himself as C.J. he looked embarrased and apolagized for having a race in my neghborhood (yea got complaints about that) and then introduced his friends. 3 other guys and a girl. So I took them out to a country road I knew of that wasen't often populated by cars quarry road. It turns into a dead end. When he started the car it was groggy and I heard a hard wind I had to wait while he messed with a computer laptop in his car for a while but i needed to warm her up anyhow then he gave me thumbs up. Ok cutting to the chase we sat at the line and my son opted to flag (I think my son was routing for the other team all he talks about now is how he wants to go to this school where there from and all) Off the line I spun a bit the CRX on the other hand took off from the line without even squeeling he had already gained two car lengths but I started to catch him through 2nd I pulled on the rear side panel of the car still gaining ground on im, then to my amazement he pulled on me another car length and took the title! we raced again b/c I asked him If he wouldent mind me giving it another shot he seemed pretty amazed that he had beat me as well and agreed. This time I didint spin and took him head to head off the line he pulled on me again! by the end of that race he had only beaten me by a nose but a wins a win. I was very impressed after the race he shook my hand told me how suprised he was and thanked me for the race. he was nothing like all the kids around here i see? he was well dressed and very polite all I have to say is that was a new one for me never been beaten by a honda and never thought it was possible!

So, what is your best 1/4 in your Cuda?

Cool story. I told you some of those kids, do know what they are doing, but most do not.

low 10's e.t. last 1/4 was 10.18 but she didint grab cause I got anxious, If I get in the right feel I can get perfect traction, and yea some of them kids do know there stuff. what are you running in the stang?

score one for the Import crowd!:silly2:

slap

how much hp was in that honda? how much in that cuda? what on earth is going on ? SWEET

hehe well i am going to say one thing the people who are impolite and mouth off know nothing others do! haha o well

what is this world coming to when a POS honda can beat a Barricuda:eek2:

The guy with the honda, knows his stuff. To say all Hondas are POS is not really that accurate.

There are only a few guys on here I respect for time and energy spent working on cars, he is one of them.

MAYBE I OVER REACTED I'M NOT USE TO HEARING ABOUT A CRX BEATING A CUDA WITH A 426 ! I'M TRUELY IMPRESSED, HOW MUCH POWER DID THE CRX HAVE? THE REASON FOR MY SURPRISE IS THAT THE ONLY TUNED HONDAS I GET TO SEE ARE ON TV OR MAGAZINES ALMOST ALL THE HONDAS FROM WERE I LIVE ARE ALL SHOW AND NO GO. IF THE STORY ABOUT THE CUDA AND CRX IS TRUE THAN THE GUY WHO OWNS THE CRX DOE'S KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING.:smoka:

how the hell did a thread on skyline vs Mustang end up

honda vs cuda????????

start a thread in the relevent section:mad:

I WAS JUST RESPONDING;)

HOW MUCH POWER DID THE CRX HAVE?

Its a Motorcycle on 4 wheels, how much power would it need:p

I would imagine the 500bhp range, but that is a guess.

KORN! Anyhow. Cobra vs GT-R. Hmm, Im thinkin, in a straight line, it would be pretty damn even. But i would take a skyline over a cobra for a bunch of reasons. Lets start with the fact that the skylines light factory boost of .4 bar (wooo, blow me over...) makes upgrades very easy. And we all know that the horse on the skyline isnt 280, its 320 something. A club in the UK tested it, but when your weight is 3350lbs, and you have the great Nissan version of AWD (ATTESA-ETS, and a Pro version on the V-Spec) monitoring EVERY wheels traction 100 times a second, you have a slight advantage. Lets not even get started on reliability and endurance, resting my case with 'ford', the skyline is worth every penny, and the cobra is just another car thrown together with a bunch of parts that already exsisted somewhere in the world, a V8 with a SC. Not impressed. The only mustang Im impressed with is the new Mach 1. Its 305hp, no SC. DOHC 4.6L V8. Now that I like.

Oh and by the way, Im having trouble with my photo, im trying to get this under my name. I already did the upload, but it didnt work. Maybe im missing something.

Just to give you an idea of what the new Cobra (or was it the Mach Iw ill have to look it up) can do, 11s sec 1/4 with very little mods. Straight line Stang:D That is NO boost, N/A baby.

Lets get real here, the cobra is SC yes it is(Eaton Gen. IV Roots-type supercharger, 8.0 psi Boost to be exact), and it isnt going to just run 11s with good tires and a short shifter... The Mclaren F1 runs a friggin 11 buddy. Gonna say the cobra keeps up with a Mclaren? when anybody whos anybody knows it will not.

Like I said, 11s were posted by a N/A Cobra, did I stutter. By the way, Mclaren F1 are not built for 1/4s. I thought you might need to know that.:)

Lol, well, i dont care what the Mclaren is built for, it runs 11s and the cobra does not, im sorry. Cobra is SC, Mach 1 is NA. The Cobra will run about a 12'9 to a 13'5. Skyline GT-R is gonna run about 13'3 to 13'8. Its pretty close. But on a slalom, the GT-R is gonna be faster.

So all Cobras are supercharged? Hmm?

All of the brand new ones, yes, thats what makes them a "cobra".

What mag are you getting your times out of? They are wrong, point blank, wrong!

I am talking about the 99-01 Cobras

lol, i dont get my times out of mags, i do real research. Listen, i dont want to argue with you anymore, those times are very, very accurate my friend, but what is wrong with them anywyas, those are fast times dude.

Dude, the cars are faster than that.

Under-drive pulleys, chip, cold air induction, gears, long tube headers, after cat system, bigger mass air, and an X-pipe, 11s in a NA Cobra. By the way this is FACT, dont tell me I do not know what I am talking about, DUDE.

And yes, the 99-01 Cobras. They are 390hp @ 8 psi of boost @ 6000rpm. They have about a .90 lateral accelaration [g], curb weight of about 3600lbs, DOHC, 4601cc, 10.9 cubic feet of trunk space, and 38.1 inches of front figgin head room. DUDE that cobra yes, yes yes... dang dude.

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=208409&highlight=n%2Fa+cobra

Read and be enlightened. Now who knows what they are talking about. I think I do, dude.

If your not looking at mags for your time, why are you posting head room, and trunk space:D

Wow, you gave me a link to a web page with a bunch of other guys talking. Thats not a credible source for research. And you know what, ill argue with those chimps too if thats what it takes, im so sick of ppl talking about the mustang like its a friggin jet. They are fast, but just fast like anything else in its class, and they are the first, the GT has been walked on since its birth. And that includes the 5.0, which ive bitch slapped in my 6th gen Si. How about you find that same info in a bunch of different sources instead of one source, that isnt even a real source for info, and untill then dont post anymore.

Your a rock!

You just said all Cobras were Supercharged, you were wrong there too!

How much more information do you want me to post before you realise you look like a fool?:rolleyes:

I must be a wise rock, cuz all cobras from 99-01 are SC... but you know what? I honestly am becoming exhausted with ignorant ppl, and so ive decided that you are right, and im wrong. Ok? Good bye.

Have you ever heard of Bob Cosby? Probably not. He is the site moderator at the Corral. Running in the 11s, in what , a N/A 99 Cobra. By the way N/A means Naturally Aspirated.

http://www.corral.net/projects/blkcld/1185.html

Here is some more of what I know nothing about.

Here is one with a Supercharger, he is only looking to go 215mph.

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/profiles/history/cobra.html

So, I guess you were right, there really is not that much information out there, sorry:(

Oh, wait here is a post by Mr. Cosby, at the very bottom. But then again he is a liar, since he is driving a Mustang.


http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?threadid=156893&highlight=cobra+fastest

If you are going to call me out, you better know a little more than just mag facts C32Bperformance. If I post something, I normally have good information behind it, kid.

I would like to clear up one thing, all 99-01 Cobras were N/A from the factory.

Stick to Hondas, C32Bperformance.:)

There is no way a stock NA Cobra runs 11's. Cobra R maybe but that is a different story.

I don't think Cobra was produced in '99.

Sami,

I listed what it takes, and yes there were Cobras in 99. I do know a little about FORDs.

11s N/A Cobra, Yes

lol...

I love it when someone admits he is wrong. lol...

:sleep:

Hey kid, do some more research on a subject before posting, it makes you look better.

I like all cars, not just one type. Being narrow minded only hurts you. ;)

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Sami,

I listed what it takes, and yes there were Cobras in 99. I do know a little about FORDs.

11s N/A Cobra, Yes
But it is not a stock Cobra, right? In '99 Cobra wasn't available through dealers, I know that much, I was thinking of buying one.

Completely stock, no.

Small bolt ons, yes.

I have never looked at buying a cobra, so as far as I know you could buy them from a dealer. I do not get into the 4.6s, ask the guys at stangnet they could tell you.

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Completely stock, no.

Small bolt ons, yes.
That's what I thought. With small bolt-ons your R32 will get to 10's. :)

Sami,

We are talking semantics here. You can manipulate anything when it comes to comparing cars to each other. I was just stating a fact that you can put a N/A Cobra in the 11's with small bolt ons.

What is the fastest US based Skyline running now. Seans? 10.5x something. That car is not small bolt ons, its a highly tuned car, with a 150 direct port shot and 2530 turbo upgrade, so your looking at 600hp for the 10s. If I have 600hp in my stang, I would be a lot faster than that. Skylines are not ment to run the 1/4, you can look at the rear suspension and figure that one out fairly easy.

Stang #1 for the 1/4 mile, flat out. Between the two.:p

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Stang #1 for the 1/4 mile, flat out. Between the two.:p
Of course, just that the "small bolt-ons" is quite a vague term. My car is a small bolt-ons car, turbos, cams, 600hp+. ;)

As the GT-R is a high 12's car stock, it really doesn't take that much to get into 11's (11.99s is in 11's). Getting from 11's to 10's is a totally different story.

GTR is not a high 12 in stock form, more like mid 13. I am talking stock. With slight mods it can get to mid-low 12s. With moderate mods in the 11s. Highly modded 10s. 9s, very hard to get to.

Stang in the 9s, oh yes;) all the time:D

This is really pointless. Just say it sami, a GTR is not a Mustang, and a Mustang is not a GTR:p Your biased, not say that is bad, but I am not.

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
GTR is not a high 12 in stock form, more like mid 13. I am talking stock. With slight mods it can get to mid-low 12s. With moderate mods in the 11s. Highly modded 10s. 9s, very hard to get to.
GT-R is a high 12s car in bone stock form, as tested by magazines.
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
This is really pointless. Just say it sami, a GTR is not a Mustang, and a Mustang is not a GTR:p
I've already said that many times. :)
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Your biased, not say that is bad, but I am not.
Where did that come from? I'm not biased, I respect Stangs for what they are. As for the GT-R, remember the famous quote by a famous man, "It's not bragging if you can back it up." :D

You guys can argue it all day, I never seen a stock GT-R or Cobra run in a 12, but that doenst mean it hasnt happened. In fact, I've read in an actual GT-R web site that it was running a 13'4. It doesnt mean shit though.

Lets not forget the factory boost being at only 5.8psi (GT-R) compared to the stangs 8psi. Match boost levels and yah might have to reconsider.

Food for thought.:D

With the stock .7 bar, stock exhaust, and stock air box, it ran 12s. I really do not see it. If I put my car on low boost, with a modded ECU, HKS air filter, and no cat 3 1/2 exhaust. That car will not see a 12 at all, and that's with those mods I have listed.

The magazine article is tainted.

Your still biased:D

Originally posted by SkylineUSA
With the stock .7 bar, stock exhaust, and stock air box, it ran 12s. I really do not see it. If I put my car on low boost, with a modded ECU, HKS air filter, and no cat 3 1/2 exhaust. That car will not see a 12 at all, and that's with those mods I have listed.
Tony, Tony, Tony. You are missing one mod, it is the fairly large brick between the wheel and the seat. You need to replace that with one that is more efficient, then you'll get somewhere. Now I better insert something here... :silly2:
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
The magazine article is tainted.
You surely mean the R&T article where they got 13.7s.
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Your still biased:D
Oh, come on now, *you're* in England for gods sake! ;)

"You surely mean the R&T article where they got 13.7s."

I never heard of that article.


Sami,

You had me rollin. :)

Ok, your slighly biased:p

Is your car done? Tuned and spittin flames out the tail pipe. Mine does, but with a lot less HP of course. Its cool at night.

"You surely mean the R&T article where they got 13.7s."

I never heard of that article.


Sami,

You had me rollin. :)

Ok, your slighly biased:p

Is your car done? Tuned and spittin flames out the tail pipe. Mine does, but with a lot less HP of course. Its cool at night.


Tony

Man some kids never learn. One thing that I wanted to add was that the SN-93 mustang (87-93) LX 5.0 with the 3.08 gear option and a stick could run 13.8-14.0 all day with a good driver. Hell, the 93 Cobra could easily run 14.0 (once again with a good driver and not a magazine editor). And lets not forget that the 93 Mustang LX 5.0 could be bought new for under $14 grand and had almost 20 years of aftermarket support when the SN-95 (94-up) came out. Now, before anyone gets to bashing me, I love the GTR and would surely sell an organ if it meant the chance to own one. But, the performance bargain rests with the Stang, and it can be made into a serious road car despite it's aged platform. Hey T, got any sound clips for the masses?:) Nothin like the sound and smell of horsepower in the morning!