Skyline Vs Mustang
SkylineUSA
07-02-2002, 02:45 PM
Have you ran your car yet, StageOneGalant.
How big is that turbo? What compression are you running? What gears do you run?
Sounds like a pretty fierce ride:)
How big is that turbo? What compression are you running? What gears do you run?
Sounds like a pretty fierce ride:)
StageOneGalant
07-02-2002, 02:55 PM
My turbo goes something like this Stage/Level 3 turbo has a 3" inlet compressor housing and the standard 7cm exhaust housing. it has a 54 trim Garrett wheel and the larger TD06 turbine wheel to decrease exhaust back pressure. this turbo will flow about 690cfm and is rated for 500/550hp.
Jus a run down.. i wanna go more.. but i may kill myself.. thanxs for asking.
Jus a run down.. i wanna go more.. but i may kill myself.. thanxs for asking.
smittymotorsports
07-09-2002, 04:59 PM
Sorry about the absence gentlemen. Had to move:bloated:
SkylineUSA that 148 mph is on 205/17/45 Yokohama paradas
I haven't yet found a slick that is worth the money, any suggestions:D
In my absence I did mean to install a new tranny, custom 425 gear ratio, a Yoshimitsi short throw w/ shift knob:o a new motorex wastegate to match w/ twin blow-off's
I have done some interior work, removed back seat, and gutted it except dash board, two Sparco lightweights, that's pretty much it.
Galant: got any pictures, big fan of ralliart productions.
No I don't have pictures yet, no scanner or digital camera, spent every last penny I had on the accord, failed to make rent so I had to move. Not FUNNY
The worst part of all this my car's upkeep costs less than the old lady and her expensive tastes.
SkylineUSA that 148 mph is on 205/17/45 Yokohama paradas
I haven't yet found a slick that is worth the money, any suggestions:D
In my absence I did mean to install a new tranny, custom 425 gear ratio, a Yoshimitsi short throw w/ shift knob:o a new motorex wastegate to match w/ twin blow-off's
I have done some interior work, removed back seat, and gutted it except dash board, two Sparco lightweights, that's pretty much it.
Galant: got any pictures, big fan of ralliart productions.
No I don't have pictures yet, no scanner or digital camera, spent every last penny I had on the accord, failed to make rent so I had to move. Not FUNNY
The worst part of all this my car's upkeep costs less than the old lady and her expensive tastes.
SkylineUSA
07-10-2002, 04:07 AM
So, basically your just building a 1/4 miler?
Slicks, M/T. Old school, but they work.
I am not trying to flame you, just give you some sound advice. And you are right, its not funny about not making rent. If there is a circumstance about your not making rent, I would understand, but if its based on the fact that your car has consumed you to the point of you not making your rent, you might want to reassess your priorities.
How much do you have in your car?
Are you trying to make a name for yourself? I am guessing this is a business thing for you, and I hope you the best of luck.
Slicks, M/T. Old school, but they work.
I am not trying to flame you, just give you some sound advice. And you are right, its not funny about not making rent. If there is a circumstance about your not making rent, I would understand, but if its based on the fact that your car has consumed you to the point of you not making your rent, you might want to reassess your priorities.
How much do you have in your car?
Are you trying to make a name for yourself? I am guessing this is a business thing for you, and I hope you the best of luck.
smittymotorsports
07-14-2002, 11:40 PM
Skyline USA, there is about $48,000 in that car not including the cost of the car, which wasn't much, something like $4,500.
The only reason I have put so much money into this car is the fact that I am trying to get a motorsports company to buy the car from me at a price in the lower 100's. I basically took a risk, along with my father.
I do have a steady job, so its not like I am eatin spam or anything like that, its just cars have been a passion my entire life, and money just doesn't seem important to me. I don't want to fool ya, I have recieved most of the parts from companies who want advertising.
I apreaciate the concern Skyline USA, I am lined up with a motorsports company to sponsor me and hopefully give me a spokesperson job.
Gotta Run, SmittyMotorsports:sun:
The only reason I have put so much money into this car is the fact that I am trying to get a motorsports company to buy the car from me at a price in the lower 100's. I basically took a risk, along with my father.
I do have a steady job, so its not like I am eatin spam or anything like that, its just cars have been a passion my entire life, and money just doesn't seem important to me. I don't want to fool ya, I have recieved most of the parts from companies who want advertising.
I apreaciate the concern Skyline USA, I am lined up with a motorsports company to sponsor me and hopefully give me a spokesperson job.
Gotta Run, SmittyMotorsports:sun:
SkylineUSA
07-15-2002, 02:46 AM
Got ya, Its very expensive to be different.
Like I said if its a bussiness adventure I wish you the best of luck. Man, you know what I could do with 50k in parts:D
Like I said if its a bussiness adventure I wish you the best of luck. Man, you know what I could do with 50k in parts:D
Gonthrax
07-17-2002, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Got ya, Its very expensive to be different.
Like I said if its a bussiness adventure I wish you the best of luck. Man, you know what I could do with 50k in parts:D
*Thinks*
Mmmmmm:licker: :licker:
Just think about it Sky :D Next time you get bored, just run down what parts you would get and what your projected HP and handeling would be with them. Thats what I do when I'm bored at work, don't we all? ;)
Smitty: Very interesting project you've got there :) I'm interested, what turbos are you using? What kind of electronic setup?
Got ya, Its very expensive to be different.
Like I said if its a bussiness adventure I wish you the best of luck. Man, you know what I could do with 50k in parts:D
*Thinks*
Mmmmmm:licker: :licker:
Just think about it Sky :D Next time you get bored, just run down what parts you would get and what your projected HP and handeling would be with them. Thats what I do when I'm bored at work, don't we all? ;)
Smitty: Very interesting project you've got there :) I'm interested, what turbos are you using? What kind of electronic setup?
smittymotorsports
07-21-2002, 09:34 PM
Gonthrax, where's the name from?:rolleyes:
I am boostin with twin T-26B turbos, and a programmable Greedy ECU hooked up to a "borrowed" lap-top, a few gauge toys, boost controller, motorex turbo timer, and stero equipment.
I did get that job, and I am going to be compensated greatly, including parts at 10% below COST. I couldn't believe the chick when she offered me that option or more money.
As a celebration gift I orderd a front mount Blitz double core intercooler w/ three inch piping to match.
I feel like idiot not asking about your cars, gents. What are you guys running with, and such? (Skyline USA, Gonthrax) Got any pictures, like to see them? (wish I had some)
Gentlemen, take it easy, take it fast, and take anything:sun:
I am boostin with twin T-26B turbos, and a programmable Greedy ECU hooked up to a "borrowed" lap-top, a few gauge toys, boost controller, motorex turbo timer, and stero equipment.
I did get that job, and I am going to be compensated greatly, including parts at 10% below COST. I couldn't believe the chick when she offered me that option or more money.
As a celebration gift I orderd a front mount Blitz double core intercooler w/ three inch piping to match.
I feel like idiot not asking about your cars, gents. What are you guys running with, and such? (Skyline USA, Gonthrax) Got any pictures, like to see them? (wish I had some)
Gentlemen, take it easy, take it fast, and take anything:sun:
SkylineUSA
07-22-2002, 01:19 AM
Well my sig has my car in its current state. I will post some picks as soon as I get some, I am still unpacking boxes from the move to europe. I will be upgrading my supercharger 15lbs, aftercooler, going with front and rear coilovers, torque arm, panhard bar, new LCAs, programable chip, upgrade fuel delivery, bigger injectors 42lbs, bigger MAS, Tremec TKO, shaving 200lbs, roll cage, new steering rack, Corbeau seats, maybe a custom cam, battle boxes, and I hope to have all this done by the end of the year. This should put the car deep in the 9s and I will only have about 14k into the car. Right now I have about 400hp to the ground I should be in the high 500s when done. I will not run her in the 1/4 anymore, as you know that is hell on a car, I will be going roadracing to go Skyline Hunting:D
Congrates on your job, now get your car to hook up:p
Congrates on your job, now get your car to hook up:p
smittymotorsports
08-16-2002, 02:38 PM
SkylineUSA, what part of Europe did you move to?
Nice place to move to, beautiful woman, beaches, skylines, and all that other good s***.
You talked about Skyline hunting, I bet you could over take them if they haven't very many mods. Road course racing? Are you sponsered yet, or do you just have that kind of money? 15 lbs of boost on a road course will still be murded on you stang, you might think about lowering the boost pressure, or even bore your cyclinders, to handle that much boost for long periods of time.;) Have you upgraded your oil pressure, or do you have a resovoir on hand, for more oil, cause you will burn a significant amount of oil over somany laps. How many laps per race will you be running? What class will you be competing in? Road racing is by far the most exilerating and challenging type of racing there is to date. Don't get me wrong I love haulin' ass down the 1/4 but like you said it is absolute murder on your car. Everytime I take it to the 1/4, I basicly have to rebuild her down to the block and tranny.
Update on the Accord TT: I purchased a set of Rays Eng. 17 inch wheels with Pirelli P-Zero's to match.
:sun: When in Doubt... just fuckin' floor it. Smitty Motorsports
Take care Skyline USA:sun:
Nice place to move to, beautiful woman, beaches, skylines, and all that other good s***.
You talked about Skyline hunting, I bet you could over take them if they haven't very many mods. Road course racing? Are you sponsered yet, or do you just have that kind of money? 15 lbs of boost on a road course will still be murded on you stang, you might think about lowering the boost pressure, or even bore your cyclinders, to handle that much boost for long periods of time.;) Have you upgraded your oil pressure, or do you have a resovoir on hand, for more oil, cause you will burn a significant amount of oil over somany laps. How many laps per race will you be running? What class will you be competing in? Road racing is by far the most exilerating and challenging type of racing there is to date. Don't get me wrong I love haulin' ass down the 1/4 but like you said it is absolute murder on your car. Everytime I take it to the 1/4, I basicly have to rebuild her down to the block and tranny.
Update on the Accord TT: I purchased a set of Rays Eng. 17 inch wheels with Pirelli P-Zero's to match.
:sun: When in Doubt... just fuckin' floor it. Smitty Motorsports
Take care Skyline USA:sun:
SkylineUSA
08-16-2002, 03:01 PM
You are right about the 15lbs, I'll go with 12, but when I shoot my N2O it should drop to about 10lbs. I am still in the planning stages, since I have not received my stuff yet.
Oil, I am going with a deep sump, windage tray, and oil cooler, It should be OK for the few times I take her out, but if not I have another engine I can build. A stroked 351w '69 block w/ forged internals, that will be a torque monster with a Supercharger and N2O.
Racing is on my dollar(or pound since I am in England) and they have track days were you just go out there and play around full blast.
Next weekend I am going to a dyno run with a bunch of Skylines, I post my numbers when I get back. I know some of the GTRs that will be there will be over 600bhp, BIG BUCKS:eek:
Skyline hunting, I truely mean that in the most respectful way. Hell, they had an EVO putting out 360bhp yesterday on the Rev Bobs Torque Show( Local British Car Show), that is impressive. That car would smoke mine right now, but not when I get done.
Smitty, I posted some pics of my car on the ford, mustang page if you want to check her out.
Keep up the work on the car, and good luck.
Oil, I am going with a deep sump, windage tray, and oil cooler, It should be OK for the few times I take her out, but if not I have another engine I can build. A stroked 351w '69 block w/ forged internals, that will be a torque monster with a Supercharger and N2O.
Racing is on my dollar(or pound since I am in England) and they have track days were you just go out there and play around full blast.
Next weekend I am going to a dyno run with a bunch of Skylines, I post my numbers when I get back. I know some of the GTRs that will be there will be over 600bhp, BIG BUCKS:eek:
Skyline hunting, I truely mean that in the most respectful way. Hell, they had an EVO putting out 360bhp yesterday on the Rev Bobs Torque Show( Local British Car Show), that is impressive. That car would smoke mine right now, but not when I get done.
Smitty, I posted some pics of my car on the ford, mustang page if you want to check her out.
Keep up the work on the car, and good luck.
SkylineUSA
08-16-2002, 03:05 PM
I am rethinking that deep into the 9s crap, maybe deep 10s is a lot more realistic:D :p
japan_freak
08-17-2002, 07:43 AM
theres no better car like skyline i dont hate american cars but compare european cars with american cars, or japan cars.Its not that im hating american cars but most of this cars are very bad, ok the american and japan tuning are the greatest but the best car is skyline of these two cars
SkylineUSA
08-17-2002, 10:16 AM
Everyone has there opinion on this subject, your biased as most people are. I would be damned if I sank my money into a car and turned around and called it a piece of crap. You might think my car is, but I don't. I have the numbers to back it up.
You own a Skyline, so of course you are going to back that car. Another guy drives a Ferrari guess what his opinion going to be. Another guy drives a TT Supra, guess what car he will favore?
If your knowledgable enough to work on cars, you can build any car to beat another, just depends on MONEY. Is my Stang better than your R34, no, but is it faster in the 1/4 probably yes. Would I spend the money for an R34, No. Would I dump that much money into my Stang, No. If we raced and you beat me, would I go back home and do so more mods, Yes. Thats the fun of it. I have a little bit of mechanical knowledge, and I can show it off by racing, and I try to do it as cost effectively as possible, because of limited funds.
Do I wish I had a R34, HELL YES:D
Can we see some pics of your car?
You own a Skyline, so of course you are going to back that car. Another guy drives a Ferrari guess what his opinion going to be. Another guy drives a TT Supra, guess what car he will favore?
If your knowledgable enough to work on cars, you can build any car to beat another, just depends on MONEY. Is my Stang better than your R34, no, but is it faster in the 1/4 probably yes. Would I spend the money for an R34, No. Would I dump that much money into my Stang, No. If we raced and you beat me, would I go back home and do so more mods, Yes. Thats the fun of it. I have a little bit of mechanical knowledge, and I can show it off by racing, and I try to do it as cost effectively as possible, because of limited funds.
Do I wish I had a R34, HELL YES:D
Can we see some pics of your car?
NiteskyR
08-18-2002, 07:15 AM
haha excelent stuff tony
KNOW thine enemy lol
KNOW thine enemy lol
SkylineUSA
08-19-2002, 12:25 PM
Nite,
You can be taught:D
You can be taught:D
R33
08-19-2002, 10:18 PM
Heyyyyy Sky, how are you man...? And how's the fine English wheather treating you and missus? Can see the BIG plan on your 'Stang....yummy...:) Am sure you will smoke them Skylines in the quarter...and yes, you will also smoke my intercooler...:eek:
I can imagine the Brits' face when they see you and your 'Stang at the dyno...they must be thinking...what the hell about this Yankee! Hahaha...But be careful on the track with the GTRs...they are quick:D It's not my opinion, but that's what they say about GTrs...including mind!!:frog: Take care.
I can imagine the Brits' face when they see you and your 'Stang at the dyno...they must be thinking...what the hell about this Yankee! Hahaha...But be careful on the track with the GTRs...they are quick:D It's not my opinion, but that's what they say about GTrs...including mind!!:frog: Take care.
SkylineUSA
08-20-2002, 04:08 AM
Fine weather and England, there is an oxymoron.
I would have to dump some serious cash into my car to be able to compete with your power, and handleing prowess. I just want to make a respectable Yank tank that can hold its own over here, since most of these people have a missconception about american cars, they only go in straght lines a 1/4 mile at a time. If I have to put more money into my car so be it.
I would have to dump some serious cash into my car to be able to compete with your power, and handleing prowess. I just want to make a respectable Yank tank that can hold its own over here, since most of these people have a missconception about american cars, they only go in straght lines a 1/4 mile at a time. If I have to put more money into my car so be it.
Alex Devotchka
08-21-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Thats why they have mustangs in the 6's and skylines in the 7's.
$50k will not get you a R34 here in the states. I was refering to what you can buy in the states, since that is where we were making that comparison, but if you just want to take numbers from anywhere, ya your right.
Oh, where can I get that R34 at:D
show me one none sponsored mustang running on gasoline doing 6's please I have never seen one cuz they don't exist period
and I dont know what the pound is going for these days but the late 80's mustangs were the worst period and the lx was the bottom end. Also I don't know if you have done an engine swap but you are not getting 415 hp on an 87 lx engine with 8psi boost
give me 50k and my Rx7 will eat your mustang with a 3 second faster dial in
Thats why they have mustangs in the 6's and skylines in the 7's.
$50k will not get you a R34 here in the states. I was refering to what you can buy in the states, since that is where we were making that comparison, but if you just want to take numbers from anywhere, ya your right.
Oh, where can I get that R34 at:D
show me one none sponsored mustang running on gasoline doing 6's please I have never seen one cuz they don't exist period
and I dont know what the pound is going for these days but the late 80's mustangs were the worst period and the lx was the bottom end. Also I don't know if you have done an engine swap but you are not getting 415 hp on an 87 lx engine with 8psi boost
give me 50k and my Rx7 will eat your mustang with a 3 second faster dial in
R33
08-21-2002, 10:05 PM
Sky, I believe with the plan fully implemented, you wud be in position to educate the Brits on what hp is all about!:D BTW, if I remember correctly, you were planning to buy the GTR before. Has that materialised or hv you fallen in love with a second hand M3 while in the UK?:eek:
A little bit of update on my car. Well, it will be exactly one year at the end of this month since the big mods. Nothing has broken yet. What makes me very happy is the fact that the stock gearbox does not exhibit any sign of wearing out despite my monthly track trips and about 1O quarter passes which I did while launching at about 7OOOrpm. The OS Giken twin plate clutch are also still holding on.
The only failure I experienced was the ATESSA which failed to work one day. It lasted only one day...phew...it happened after I parked the car with my left rear tyre on a curb and my mech thought that the computer took time to adjust after that. Anyway it is working perfectly now.
The only real casualty is the AP Racing rotors which hv gone uneven as I suspect they overheated on the track. So I am now looking for a set of new rotors.
I will be retuning my suspensions set up soon as I want to lessen body rolls. Also will install some serious braces. My mech has also indicated that he may be able to improve low end torque without really compromising the high end...so the car will go on the dyno again soon.
A little bit of update on my car. Well, it will be exactly one year at the end of this month since the big mods. Nothing has broken yet. What makes me very happy is the fact that the stock gearbox does not exhibit any sign of wearing out despite my monthly track trips and about 1O quarter passes which I did while launching at about 7OOOrpm. The OS Giken twin plate clutch are also still holding on.
The only failure I experienced was the ATESSA which failed to work one day. It lasted only one day...phew...it happened after I parked the car with my left rear tyre on a curb and my mech thought that the computer took time to adjust after that. Anyway it is working perfectly now.
The only real casualty is the AP Racing rotors which hv gone uneven as I suspect they overheated on the track. So I am now looking for a set of new rotors.
I will be retuning my suspensions set up soon as I want to lessen body rolls. Also will install some serious braces. My mech has also indicated that he may be able to improve low end torque without really compromising the high end...so the car will go on the dyno again soon.
SkylineUSA
08-22-2002, 03:26 AM
R33,
Glad to here that your car is doing well. I thought you were upgrading the tranny. That is one stout piece of machinery if its holding up to that abuse.
Alex,
50k into a RX7, and 50k into my Stang and you give me a 3 sec dial in. And you will beat my stang. :confused: So for 50k your car would be in the 5s, since mine would be in the 8s.
I said 400-415 since it has not been on the dyno. I am going by my 1/4 times.
I can tell by your reply you do not know Mustangs that well.
"show me one none sponsored mustang running on gasoline doing 6's please I have never seen one cuz they don't exist period"
When did I mention they were not sponsered?
Glad to here that your car is doing well. I thought you were upgrading the tranny. That is one stout piece of machinery if its holding up to that abuse.
Alex,
50k into a RX7, and 50k into my Stang and you give me a 3 sec dial in. And you will beat my stang. :confused: So for 50k your car would be in the 5s, since mine would be in the 8s.
I said 400-415 since it has not been on the dyno. I am going by my 1/4 times.
I can tell by your reply you do not know Mustangs that well.
"show me one none sponsored mustang running on gasoline doing 6's please I have never seen one cuz they don't exist period"
When did I mention they were not sponsered?
Domestickillah
09-18-2002, 04:58 PM
I really do not understand how you could ever compare a Skyline vs. a mustang. A Skyline is a work of art. It's engine is incredible. Consider the HP output that comes from such small displacement. American cars have never understood the concept of making the most out the engine they have. In fact the attitude towards their cars are alot like the attitude towards life that Americans have. They take more than they need and waste alot. I am an American and I am proud but I can never say that I would Prefer any american car over a Skyline GTR.
Yeuh ho.
P.S. I did not even mention any of the suspension superiorities that the Skyline GTR has. You shouldn't waste your time comparing a super street car to underachieving waste of money. To be fair to Mustangs I would say that Skylines are in a different class and should be compared to cars that are designed for speed.
Yeuh ho.
P.S. I did not even mention any of the suspension superiorities that the Skyline GTR has. You shouldn't waste your time comparing a super street car to underachieving waste of money. To be fair to Mustangs I would say that Skylines are in a different class and should be compared to cars that are designed for speed.
SkylineUSA
09-19-2002, 12:55 AM
Maybe if you would had taking the time to read the whole post, you could form a more educated reply. Rather than just opinion based BS.
By the way my V8 will get better gas mileage than the smaller displacement 2.6, so what does that say? My V8 is more efficient?
Go back and do some reading:finger:
By the way my V8 will get better gas mileage than the smaller displacement 2.6, so what does that say? My V8 is more efficient?
Go back and do some reading:finger:
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 06:42 AM
actuall iv seen these two race. and theres a vido of it on some web site but i cant remember the adress. any way it was between an r33 gtr and a new cobra stv, both were modified and were between 600 and 700 hp i think the mustang had like 680 and the skyline had 650 any way the skyline wooped the crap out of it. people say the two cars dont compare but the domestic guys are always talken crap about imports and the top import car beat the top domestic so they have no room to talk!
SkylineUSA
09-21-2002, 06:55 AM
In what the 1/4? BS......... Road race, yes.....
No Skyline is going to beat a Mustang if the the stang has more power, and they have the Mustang hooking. That is a fact. I dont give a shit if you saw it on a video or not.
There is a point were the front drive system in a Skyline is just dead weight, unless they rig up some contraption to force weight to the front to utilize it. Even if that was the case, you would have more drag on the car, the car would weigh more, and less hp. Nope, not buying it.
No Skyline is going to beat a Mustang if the the stang has more power, and they have the Mustang hooking. That is a fact. I dont give a shit if you saw it on a video or not.
There is a point were the front drive system in a Skyline is just dead weight, unless they rig up some contraption to force weight to the front to utilize it. Even if that was the case, you would have more drag on the car, the car would weigh more, and less hp. Nope, not buying it.
MrSky
09-21-2002, 10:11 AM
Well sorry to butt in on your convo but the front wheels are not engaged at all UNLESS the rear wheels exceed them by 4 mph. So there is no drag on the front just a HELL of a mean ass start that no street mustang can hang with. Sure if you put slicks and dissconnect the sway bar and all that jazz it would be a better race... but im talking street tires to street tires. the mustang would be all smoke.
And you CAN control the amount of torque going to the front wheels with a simple twist of a knob. I thought you guys knew about this?
And you CAN control the amount of torque going to the front wheels with a simple twist of a knob. I thought you guys knew about this?
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 04:19 PM
hey im not trying to start an argument just telling you what happend. you can make your own decision
SkylineUSA
09-21-2002, 05:57 PM
Who lines for a 1/4 with street tires? Not me, or any of my buddies. :)
Yeah, there is no way a Mustang, tuned can come close to a skyline in a 1/4 mile. All you mustang owners running 9s can not come close to a 10s skyline.:rolleyes: :D
Yeah, there is no way a Mustang, tuned can come close to a skyline in a 1/4 mile. All you mustang owners running 9s can not come close to a 10s skyline.:rolleyes: :D
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 06:55 PM
A SKYLINE CAN BEAT A MUSTANG WITH OUT EVEN LIFTING A FINGER PIRIOD. PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THERE TALKEN ABOUT NEED TO SIT DOWN, SHUT THE HELL UP AND LISTEN AND LEARN. LIKE SKYLINE USA WHO DOESNT EVEN OWN OR KNOW SOME ONE WHO OWNES A SKYLINE. HE DOESNT HAVE A MUSTNG. HE HAS A 16 SECOND STOCK 87 LX AND DOESNT HAVE 50 FRIENDS WITH 8 SECOND MUSTANGS AND YES SKYLINE USA I AM A RICH PUNK KID:flipa: YOU NEED TO DO MORE OF THIS:bandit: SO ULL SHUT UP
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 06:59 PM
ACTUALLY HE HAS AN 87 LX IF YOU CAN EVEN CALL IT A REAL MUSTANG AND CAN GET YOUR STORY STARIT?
SkylineUSA
09-21-2002, 07:11 PM
Without lifting a finger? Man, I have been working on Mustangs before your dumbass was born. I have lifted a finger to work on cars, not like your rich dumbass would ever know what a pickle fork, or a crows foot was. Oh wait, that would get your rich little hands dirty if you worked on a car, know you would want to do that, you might learn something. And we all know learning is bad. So, why dont you get back to your Playstaion, X-Box, or Game Cube so you can get in touch with reality.
Rich kid my ass. Tell your parents you need a brain, I don't think they'll have enough money to fix the fucked up one you have.
Rich kid my ass. Tell your parents you need a brain, I don't think they'll have enough money to fix the fucked up one you have.
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 07:24 PM
SORRY BUT OVEOUSLY WE ALL CANT RELATE TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALL CAND BE RED NECKS AND DRIVE OLD CHEVY TRUCKS AND DRIVE 80'S 5.0 MUSTANGE AND LX'S. AND I REALLY CANT RELATE TO EATING COWS FEET OR PICKLEING CUCUMBER ON THE FARM. AND SORRY BUT HERE IN CALI WE DONT HAVE A LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE KKK LIKE YOU DO IN YOUR HOME TOWN. HERE IN CALI WE ARE DOWN TO EARTH PEOPLE WHO PROMOTE DIVERSITY AND I CANT RELATE TO YOUR ALL MIGHTY RED NECK POWER. AND NO I DONT HAVE SERVENTS OR ANY THING LIKE YOU SEE ON TV. I JUST LIKE IN A NICE COMMUNITY WITH NICE BIG HOUSES AND NICER CARS THAT YOU NORMALLY SEE DOWN SOUTH. SO TO PUT IT IN WORDS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND "HOWDY BUT AROUND THESE PARTS WE DONT GET MANY OF YOUR KIND (SPITS IN A PLITOO) SO DONT COME BACK NOW YE HEAR"
sami
09-21-2002, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by GT-R2000
SORRY
I'm sorry to say this...go away!
SORRY
I'm sorry to say this...go away!
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 07:39 PM
HEY SAMMY PLEASE DONT GET INVOLED BECAUSE THIS GUY DOESNT EVEN LIKE SKY LINE AND PROMOTES TEEN SUICIDE SO PLEASE SINCE YOU DONT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY PLEASE DONT MAKE ANY JUDEMENTS TWORDS ME BECAUSE I CAME HERE TO TALK TO OTHER SKYLINE OWNERS. AND NOT ARGUE WITH WANA BE RED NECKS. SO PLEASE EVERY ONE STAY ON TOPIC FOR NOW ON AND DONT TRY TO INSULT EVERY ONE
SkylineUSA
09-21-2002, 07:45 PM
If you must know assclown, I am from the westcoast.
Now if you have an intelligent post, feel free to ask. No, really. I am done with MUSTANGS ARE FASTER, SKYLINES ARE FASTER crap.
Now if you have an intelligent post, feel free to ask. No, really. I am done with MUSTANGS ARE FASTER, SKYLINES ARE FASTER crap.
SkylineUSA
09-21-2002, 07:54 PM
Mr. Sky,
I am refering to weight transfer, front will lift no matter what. The laws of physics.
I am refering to weight transfer, front will lift no matter what. The laws of physics.
GT-R2000
09-21-2002, 07:54 PM
GREAT NOW WE CAN ALL GET ALONG, WHATS AN ASS CLOW? TWISTED FANASYS:bloated: :confused: I WANT TO PART OF THIS . SO IM NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU ANY MORE EAITHER
MrSky
09-22-2002, 10:54 AM
Hey USA, i see what your saying, but what about wheelie bars and a soft set rear?
sami
09-22-2002, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by GT-R2000
HEY SAMMY PLEASE DONT GET INVOLED
First of all, get rid of the shouting (CAPS). Second, get rid of the insults and try to discuss like an adult.
I got involved as this is a fairly flame free site and I would like it to stay that way.
HEY SAMMY PLEASE DONT GET INVOLED
First of all, get rid of the shouting (CAPS). Second, get rid of the insults and try to discuss like an adult.
I got involved as this is a fairly flame free site and I would like it to stay that way.
SkylineUSA
09-22-2002, 02:02 PM
My fault sami,
I had just got done working on the car, and I was in a bad mood when I jumped on line. Next time I come in from a bad night in the garage I'll stay way from the computer.:)
Mr. Sky,
Yep that will work to a point, if you preload the bars though, you will not get the weight transfer, but I guess you would not need it if the front are pulling. If you look at all the top fuel cars, they run them, but that just so they do not flip over:) If a car is set up, front wheel drive is really not needed. Unless your just on street tires, then it would be a big advantage, but that is street racing and we do not that.
Now for road racing, as we all know its KING.
I had just got done working on the car, and I was in a bad mood when I jumped on line. Next time I come in from a bad night in the garage I'll stay way from the computer.:)
Mr. Sky,
Yep that will work to a point, if you preload the bars though, you will not get the weight transfer, but I guess you would not need it if the front are pulling. If you look at all the top fuel cars, they run them, but that just so they do not flip over:) If a car is set up, front wheel drive is really not needed. Unless your just on street tires, then it would be a big advantage, but that is street racing and we do not that.
Now for road racing, as we all know its KING.
Mackaman
09-23-2002, 09:21 AM
We all know that the monster R33 HKS drag car would kill a mustang any day try 1000kw = 1,341 BHP!!!!!!!! also if you are looking to compare a circuit sprint skyline vs a modded mustang for handling the sard 800bhp circuit sprint car would kill any modded mustang handling wise EASY. All in all there is just way more technology and knowledge pumped into skylines then there is pumped into old mustangs which grandpa's tune.
:smoker2:
:smoker2:
GT-R2000
09-23-2002, 10:42 AM
well said mackman. my bro has a mustange and they have alot of tork so the mustang woukd come off the line faster but the skyline would win in the long run.
SkylineUSA
09-23-2002, 01:42 PM
Please, inlighten us on your vast knowledge of engine and suspension tuning? I mean you just can not spout off such detailed facts like that without years of car tuning under your belt.
Was that being nice? I am asking, Blue?
Was that being nice? I am asking, Blue?
GT-R2000
09-23-2002, 07:10 PM
hahaha what would you like to know?any way i dont get why people buy gts's if ur gonna spend the money and take the time to get one why not get a gtr? any way just a question for you skyline usa. if mustangs are supirior then why are you getting a skyline? you did say there awd is slow as hell? any way i big part gof skyline tuneing is not just the turbo youll need new cam shafts and crower rods and pistons. the straight 6 is nissans best achivment in my opinion because it can be tuned close to 2000hp. there was an r34 gtr that some guy in japan tuned to some where around 1800hp and added nos and some thing else and it came out to 2100 horses he had like almost $200,000 into it
SkylineUSA
09-24-2002, 01:36 AM
Quote me once saying AWD is slow as hell. I didn't ever say that. If you are going to quote ME, get it right.
I never said Mustangs were superior, ever. They are not. Mustang will take a Skyline in the 1/4, Skyline will take a Mustang in a road race, more often thaa not.
Like has been said before if you enough money you can make a Yugo beat a Skyline. Who would want to do that. Ok, maybe not a Yug, but you get my drift.
I will say, and always will say $4$ a Skyline can not come close to a Mustang. Let me repeat $4$. I have about 12k into my car and it should run mid 10s, and pull over a g on the skid plate. Show me a Skyline with less money in it and that can beat my car.
Right now I am in the process of buying 3 Skylines, 2 GTRs and one GTt. I love their looks, and there performance, not to mention there are not a lot of Americans that own them, so it will be my pleasure to be one of the few.
I never said Mustangs were superior, ever. They are not. Mustang will take a Skyline in the 1/4, Skyline will take a Mustang in a road race, more often thaa not.
Like has been said before if you enough money you can make a Yugo beat a Skyline. Who would want to do that. Ok, maybe not a Yug, but you get my drift.
I will say, and always will say $4$ a Skyline can not come close to a Mustang. Let me repeat $4$. I have about 12k into my car and it should run mid 10s, and pull over a g on the skid plate. Show me a Skyline with less money in it and that can beat my car.
Right now I am in the process of buying 3 Skylines, 2 GTRs and one GTt. I love their looks, and there performance, not to mention there are not a lot of Americans that own them, so it will be my pleasure to be one of the few.
SkylineUSA
09-24-2002, 01:44 AM
You mentioned that you can tune a RB26DETT for over 2000hp, what you really ment to say was you can modify.
I got news for you sparky, you can do the same thing to a 302.:)
I got news for you sparky, you can do the same thing to a 302.:)
Domestickillah
09-26-2002, 03:51 PM
SKy u should realize youre wrong and shut the fuck up. the Technology is far superior in the skyline. u should think about what youre saying before u say it. a 302 could never get close to 2000 hp. and besides even if it did your car is still ugly.
Fag.:flipa:
By the way you happen to own the ugliest of mustangs. i would be embarassed to tell people that i own that car, especially people that know anything about cars.
Fag.:flipa:
By the way you happen to own the ugliest of mustangs. i would be embarassed to tell people that i own that car, especially people that know anything about cars.
SkylineUSA
09-27-2002, 11:20 AM
I take it you did not read the whole post.
Yeah, my Stang is pretty ugly, So is my GTR.
Yeah, my Stang is pretty ugly, So is my GTR.
NiteskyR
09-28-2002, 07:54 AM
The dark side is strong
use the force wisely tony:D
use the force wisely tony:D
SR20DETpower
10-20-2002, 01:42 PM
sorry this post was on page two but I found it very ignorant SkylineUSA
I will cange out my suspension when I start road racing over there. Right now its set up 1/4s. After I install some Koni Yellows in he back with some decent springs I should be OK against the Beast from the East.
The very fact you say some decent springs and Koni Yellows in the back on your stang and you should be OK against a Skyline is absurd lmfao. No way will just those two things but a Mustang up to a STOCK skyline on a track. Now lets put same pieces on Skyline as Mustang and the Skyline will ass rape the Mustang so bad on a road course you would laugh.... I read somewhere a GTR raced a Z06 and beat it around the track after a few laps by 9 seconds lololol..... There is just a lot more to suspension and handling then good springs/Struts all Im saying... There are skylines.... then there are cars we spend all our pennies on modifiying so that they can almost be like a Skyline.
I will cange out my suspension when I start road racing over there. Right now its set up 1/4s. After I install some Koni Yellows in he back with some decent springs I should be OK against the Beast from the East.
The very fact you say some decent springs and Koni Yellows in the back on your stang and you should be OK against a Skyline is absurd lmfao. No way will just those two things but a Mustang up to a STOCK skyline on a track. Now lets put same pieces on Skyline as Mustang and the Skyline will ass rape the Mustang so bad on a road course you would laugh.... I read somewhere a GTR raced a Z06 and beat it around the track after a few laps by 9 seconds lololol..... There is just a lot more to suspension and handling then good springs/Struts all Im saying... There are skylines.... then there are cars we spend all our pennies on modifiying so that they can almost be like a Skyline.
SkylineUSA
10-20-2002, 02:02 PM
I have coil overs, PHB, TA, and Koni yellows. I also have a GTR. :)
The statment you took was out of context. I was talking about it being combined with the rest of my combo.
Most of what you say is true, though. The GTR handles like a dream. But my Stang is set up damn well too. The stang can put down the power and get out of corners better than the GTR. The GTR would still win though in a road race. Both cars have their good points.
The statment you took was out of context. I was talking about it being combined with the rest of my combo.
Most of what you say is true, though. The GTR handles like a dream. But my Stang is set up damn well too. The stang can put down the power and get out of corners better than the GTR. The GTR would still win though in a road race. Both cars have their good points.
SkylineUSA
10-20-2002, 02:07 PM
Is that your car? Very nice, I have always liked those.
SR20DETpower
10-20-2002, 06:28 PM
oh man I wished that was mine. Its a Nissan 180sx, with a Silvia S15 front end conversion. Signal Auto owns it and its called the Signal Drifter X. I think its horsepower is in the low 400's..... it is truly a badass car and looks NICE, I've seen videos of it drifting in Hawaii and this thing is a machine let me tell you.... If I had to choose between someone giving me a stock GTR or that car, Id take the little ol 180sx.
Can your stang really put down more power out of a corner then a Skyline, with its AWD and all.... I dunno I've never driven a GTR so i can't compare just heard of its legend. From what I've seen and some of the jap guys running tests against the various cars the one guy was driving the GTR pretty damn hard and flooring it through turns with some mild oversteer comming out.. it was sticking better then the Rx7, NSX, Evo that was racing with him by far, defitely could tell the Skyline held in a turn a lot better then those other cars. Then on the other hand my brother has an Impala SS, don't get me wrong nice car and all, but I can't imagine that a v8rwd car can lay down more power then a GTR comming out of a turn. In that video he had full throttle on comming off with AWD, you give that Impala full power in the turn and you better have a wide road or your buying a new side of rims LOL. It gets sideways very easily, fun to drive it but I don't think that kinda setup can hold to a GTR.
Can your stang really put down more power out of a corner then a Skyline, with its AWD and all.... I dunno I've never driven a GTR so i can't compare just heard of its legend. From what I've seen and some of the jap guys running tests against the various cars the one guy was driving the GTR pretty damn hard and flooring it through turns with some mild oversteer comming out.. it was sticking better then the Rx7, NSX, Evo that was racing with him by far, defitely could tell the Skyline held in a turn a lot better then those other cars. Then on the other hand my brother has an Impala SS, don't get me wrong nice car and all, but I can't imagine that a v8rwd car can lay down more power then a GTR comming out of a turn. In that video he had full throttle on comming off with AWD, you give that Impala full power in the turn and you better have a wide road or your buying a new side of rims LOL. It gets sideways very easily, fun to drive it but I don't think that kinda setup can hold to a GTR.
SkylineUSA
10-21-2002, 12:41 AM
Yes this Mustang can hold to road very well. Going into a corner, or while in a corner the GTR has the advantage. If you in a tight corner, and your just coming out, the Stang with its torque will get the GTR. Right now, with the Stang set up right I should have close 425hp to the ground, and gobbes of torque. The GTR should have 315hp to the ground, but the torque numbers are not there, but the handling sure is.
sami
10-21-2002, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Yes this Mustang can hold to road very well. Going into a corner, or while in a corner the GTR has the advantage. If you in a tight corner, and your just coming out, the Stang with its torque will get the GTR. Right now, with the Stang set up right I should have close 425hp to the ground, and gobbes of torque. The GTR should have 315hp to the ground, but the torque numbers are not there, but the handling sure is.
Yeah but your GT-R is just in its babysteps... I took mine out to Mineral Wells today, it had too much power to that track, with street tires there was no traction once I got to the pedal. Low boost settings still, propably around 450 to the wheels.
Blew that rubber intake hose on my second lap, after that it was cruising in 3rd gear. Whole track in 3rd, no gear chances, no problems with getting torque in curves... :D
Also got to drive Don's SCCA Spec Racer. Videos are up but be warned, upload might not be that fast and the shots are not spectacular. Rather ordinary. http://12.239.130.41:6969/videos/skyline/
Yes this Mustang can hold to road very well. Going into a corner, or while in a corner the GTR has the advantage. If you in a tight corner, and your just coming out, the Stang with its torque will get the GTR. Right now, with the Stang set up right I should have close 425hp to the ground, and gobbes of torque. The GTR should have 315hp to the ground, but the torque numbers are not there, but the handling sure is.
Yeah but your GT-R is just in its babysteps... I took mine out to Mineral Wells today, it had too much power to that track, with street tires there was no traction once I got to the pedal. Low boost settings still, propably around 450 to the wheels.
Blew that rubber intake hose on my second lap, after that it was cruising in 3rd gear. Whole track in 3rd, no gear chances, no problems with getting torque in curves... :D
Also got to drive Don's SCCA Spec Racer. Videos are up but be warned, upload might not be that fast and the shots are not spectacular. Rather ordinary. http://12.239.130.41:6969/videos/skyline/
HemiGeorge
10-21-2002, 01:04 AM
I'm gonna say the Cobra will take her in the quarter mile no sweat. But on a windy road or a windy track my money's on the AWD.
SkylineUSA
10-21-2002, 01:52 AM
Ok sami,
What tires were you using? R1's
450 to the ground. How do I get there? And how much did it cost? When I went the Dyno shoot out a few months ago, the highest GTR was only 424, and that thing was loaded with parts.
Hemi,
That 71 for your avatar, is my dream car. And back in High School we would cruise in a '69 Barracuda, those were the day. Your car is awesome, I just wish it was more for the street.
My Stang, would beat sami's GTR in the 1/4, even with his awd, and more power. Do you beleive me sami?
What tires were you using? R1's
450 to the ground. How do I get there? And how much did it cost? When I went the Dyno shoot out a few months ago, the highest GTR was only 424, and that thing was loaded with parts.
Hemi,
That 71 for your avatar, is my dream car. And back in High School we would cruise in a '69 Barracuda, those were the day. Your car is awesome, I just wish it was more for the street.
My Stang, would beat sami's GTR in the 1/4, even with his awd, and more power. Do you beleive me sami?
sami
10-21-2002, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
Ok sami,
What tires were you using? R1's
Yokohama A520's, ordinary street tires, 245/45/17.
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
450 to the ground. How do I get there? And how much did it cost?
I'm expecting around 550 once we get it tuned, it is running rich and isn't set to higher than 1.2bar.
Garrett GT25/30's, 272 cams, 720cc injectors, Nismo fuel pump...here is the complete list what has been done:
APEX'i AVC-R boost controller
APEX'i GT intercooler
APEX'i GT exhaust
APEX'i intakes
APEX'i PowerFC + controller
HKS twin plate clutch
HKS 1.2mm metal headgasket
HKS cam gears
HKS cams 272/272
Garrett GT2530 turbos
NISMO fuel pump + regulator
720cc injectors
TEIN coilovers
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
My Stang, would beat sami's GTR in the 1/4, even with his awd, and more power. Do you beleive me sami?
I believe you. I'm not a drag racer, never done it but with decent driver the car would propably do very low 11's, maybe even 10's. I think I could do mid 11's after a few practice runs.
Ok sami,
What tires were you using? R1's
Yokohama A520's, ordinary street tires, 245/45/17.
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
450 to the ground. How do I get there? And how much did it cost?
I'm expecting around 550 once we get it tuned, it is running rich and isn't set to higher than 1.2bar.
Garrett GT25/30's, 272 cams, 720cc injectors, Nismo fuel pump...here is the complete list what has been done:
APEX'i AVC-R boost controller
APEX'i GT intercooler
APEX'i GT exhaust
APEX'i intakes
APEX'i PowerFC + controller
HKS twin plate clutch
HKS 1.2mm metal headgasket
HKS cam gears
HKS cams 272/272
Garrett GT2530 turbos
NISMO fuel pump + regulator
720cc injectors
TEIN coilovers
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
My Stang, would beat sami's GTR in the 1/4, even with his awd, and more power. Do you beleive me sami?
I believe you. I'm not a drag racer, never done it but with decent driver the car would propably do very low 11's, maybe even 10's. I think I could do mid 11's after a few practice runs.
SkylineUSA
10-21-2002, 09:58 AM
Man, you need tires, BAD. With a good set of tires you will be unstopable.
How do you like your twin plate? I have seen most guys that will stall it, it seems to be a very touchy clutch.
I will not go to a cam that big, so I guess your GTR will always have more power up top, but I will build mine for lower power.
They have a GTR from the states that made some 1/4 runs on www.freshalloy.com have you checked them out?
Tony
How do you like your twin plate? I have seen most guys that will stall it, it seems to be a very touchy clutch.
I will not go to a cam that big, so I guess your GTR will always have more power up top, but I will build mine for lower power.
They have a GTR from the states that made some 1/4 runs on www.freshalloy.com have you checked them out?
Tony
sami
10-21-2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
How do you like your twin plate? I have seen most guys that will stall it, it seems to be a very touchy clutch.
It's a pain in the traffic but other than that you get used to it.
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
I will not go to a cam that big, so I guess your GTR will always have
more power up top, but I will build mine for lower power.
I was going to go with 256 cams first but then was recommended the 272's. Low end power is still good but it idles very rough. I had the engine die on me on few occasions when I let the rpms drop suddenly, need to fix that. Lose the engine = lose the brakes... :(
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
They have a GTR from the states that made some 1/4 runs on www.freshalloy.com have you checked them out?
Yes, I know Nick. I called him that saturday night to get some alignment numbers from him and he told me the times. He was here in Dallas a few months ago. Cool guy with a lot of knowledge about GT-R, I hope he does well in One Lap next year.
BTW, I'm "samppa" in FreshAlloy.
How do you like your twin plate? I have seen most guys that will stall it, it seems to be a very touchy clutch.
It's a pain in the traffic but other than that you get used to it.
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
I will not go to a cam that big, so I guess your GTR will always have
more power up top, but I will build mine for lower power.
I was going to go with 256 cams first but then was recommended the 272's. Low end power is still good but it idles very rough. I had the engine die on me on few occasions when I let the rpms drop suddenly, need to fix that. Lose the engine = lose the brakes... :(
Originally posted by SkylineUSA
They have a GTR from the states that made some 1/4 runs on www.freshalloy.com have you checked them out?
Yes, I know Nick. I called him that saturday night to get some alignment numbers from him and he told me the times. He was here in Dallas a few months ago. Cool guy with a lot of knowledge about GT-R, I hope he does well in One Lap next year.
BTW, I'm "samppa" in FreshAlloy.
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