Tupac is Alive!
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gang$tarr
02-18-2002, 10:53 PM
after a conversation with skylinefreak, i thought i've never seen a topic on this at AF
but I thought it'd be interesting....
I think there are WAAAAAAY too many things pointing to him being alive
if he don't come back in 2003 than maybe i'll start believing he's dead....
Here are some things i've collected off websites (copy & paste :) ), that i thought were interesting:
Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.
The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?
The name of 2Pac's album is Makaveli... He was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one’s death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...
The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?
Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?
2Pac was cremated the day after he died... Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder?
Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?
2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 LP’s that have yet to be released.. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.
2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death
2pac ALWAYS wore his bullet proof vest, why wouldn't he wear it right after a big fight with Orlando Anderson, a known gang member
Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?
Suge Knight and 2Pac were the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death... (at the time)
The Makaveli album (The Don Killuminati - The 7day Theory): Who is the producer Simon? In the bible, Simon helped Jesus carry the cross. Who was helping Pac with his burden?...Suge Knight. What's Joshua Dream? Joshua in the Bible, dreamed of Jesus rising from the dead. Why did Pac have Exit Tupac-Enter Makaveli? Cuz he is a new person. Tupac was killed off.
Why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?
Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory" which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also the mysterious ‘SIMON’
There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez on Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the 7 day theory. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). His badge number in Gang Related adds up to 7 and 7 is repeatedly seen in both Gang Related and Gridlock'd.
Autopsy Photos: First off, how did Cathy Scott get a picture. She says they are locked up, but somehow this one slipped out. If you gonna show me a pic, show me one showing a face. Its also like she expects people to doubt the realness of the pic, cuz she tries to explain that we can clearly see his tatoos. She expects no one to believe her. She says it has to be him, cuz we can see the tatoo. Anybody who works in movies can make this pic. If you had a good computer and you good with it, you could make it. Her whole book is phony. The death certificate say Pac is 6ft, and weighs 215. I don't think so. And nobody puts 50 lbs of blood in someone. I bet Pac had this photo made so he can slow down the alive rumors, cuz at first there wasn't one done, then everyone start saying he is alive and now we have an autopsy. hmmmmmm
Lack of photos: How come late at night in New York where nothing big is going on at the time, a photographer can get a picture of Pac giving him the finger, while being put in the ambulance. Yet not one photographer, media person, or even a tourist,(this is Las Vegas) get one pic of Tupac. Someone got a pic of him sitting in a car with Suge, but no one got one when it matter. You think the Pic of him alive would be worth something, how much you think a pic of him shot would cost. All we get is a pic of his car, and his entourage on a curb, Cmon.
Why so fast: How are you gonna have a autopsy and a cremation in less then 24 hours after death. Let alone, this was a murder victim. That is unreal, but now we have no body. Also why did Pac make all those videos, songs, guest appearances, and movies, so fast. Cuz anything with his name on it now, means Mo Money.
Political Party: I believe Pac will return in 2003, right in time for the election campaign for 2004. Also did you notice thatJesse jackson and Al harpton were both at the hospital, when Pac supposely was shot.Jesse got experience with politics and so does Al. They can help pac out, and find a candidate for his party.(Pac can't run, he won't be 35 and he is a convicted felon).
Orlando Anderson: I see his situation in 2 ways. Either Pac just choose him to fight, to make it look like someone had a reason to kill him, or he was in on Pac's plot. I mean how come he ain't dead yet. I'm sure it is a lot easier to kill him, then Biggie. I don't care how much you stay in the house. And for those that say that Pac took off his vest cuz he felt safe, is bull. If the fight with Orlando was legit(which it wasn't) why would he feel safe. Orlando is a gang member. Orlando even tried to help Suge out, but some question that, so after the trail he changed his story.
7's: Why all these muthafuckin 7's. Its not a coindence. Its too many for that to be. Pac put them there for clues, to let us know he will return. Why does everything to do with his death has a 7 to it. C'mon, he had to die at 4:03. why not 4:04. It wouldn't work. Now his mom the person who is suppose to stop the alive rumor add another 7. In the video, "I wonder If Heaven Got a Getto," she has it where Pac arrive on Sept 14, in a place like Arizona or even Mexico, and then she goes to 6 days later. Another 7 days. What is her reason for this? She knows what she did.
And here are some quotes from 2pac's songs, words that pac said, that are hints of him being alive:
"I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word" This implies that he knew he would be dead when the album is released. (from "niggas gone changed")
In the song Thug Luv with the bone thugs, Bizzy after his verse and before Pac, says, "He's alive, He alive"
Why would they do that? Why would they change their album name to Art Of War. A title of Machiavelli's book. They are down with the plot. They know what is up.
He says: "I heard rumor I died, mudered in cold blood dramatized. Pictures of me in my final stages, you know mam cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted, Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missing, But I'm worldwide baby, I ain't hard 2 find..."
in his song: aint hard 2 find
That pretty much tells us everything that happened when he died
the picture he talks about is his fake autopsy photo
In the song Blashemy: When the guy in the beginning says,"unless the lord does return in the next 7 days...." after 7 days, listen for Pac to say,"7 years", and then right after he says this you hear, "don't start that blasphemy", and then again louder. He also starts to say follow me. He will return in 2003. He will be a leader.
in the song white man's world he says "My time away just made perfection. You think I'd die?"
why doesn't he just say "i'm faking my death" lol
"Gunshots to Tut, now you stuck." - from against all odds
Walter "King Tut" Johnson was killed in January of 97 outside a resturaunt, victim of gunshots. He was one of the three men who shot Pac in 1994 and robbed him. Later on in the hospital Tut called Pac and asked what he was still doing alive and said they would finishg the job. This is why Pac left the hospital so fast.
"I was stuck in the game, cuz everybody in the industry was fuckin' me man. Listen I got a scheme, break away, do my own thing, drop some conversation, sit back and let the phone ring."
ANOTHER line that explains everthing from the song fright night
in the same song he said "Niggas, they don't wanna see me rise, NINETY-SEVEN, watch me cut these muthafuckas down to size."
in '97 Biggie Smalls was killed, and B.I.G. was tupac's enemy
"Can you picture my specific plan? To be the man in this wicked land, underhanded hits are planned."
In this song - troublesome '96 - he is talking about his plan to fake his death, and he could be talking about putting hits on biggie and king tut after his death
These talk all about biggie's death!
In the song Fucking With the Wrong Nigga: "Watching time fly. Best stategize on a way to profit, Best organize how they ride so they can't stop it."
Pac after his so called death, and before Biggie's was sitting back watching time fly, trying to create a plan on how to make money for a political party, and also studying Biggie's moves to make a hit on him. Its only payback, for Biggie not warning Pac when he got shot.
from the same song "Made a call for some backup, the littles homies and my dawgz in a black truck. Buck Buck was the sound as they gats burst. No need for an ambulance, baby bring the black hearse, shoulda never fuck around buster, How you figure making moves on the wrong nigga."
The car that drove a along Biggie, was a BLACK Suburban. Biggie was killed , and even though Puffy got him to the hospital, should of just took him to the morgue.
in the song - god bless the dead tupac says "Rest in peace to my muthafucka Biggie Smalls."
how could he know that BIG is dead when biggie died 6 months AFTER him?
THAT'S WAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH TO BE COINCIDENCE!!
but I thought it'd be interesting....
I think there are WAAAAAAY too many things pointing to him being alive
if he don't come back in 2003 than maybe i'll start believing he's dead....
Here are some things i've collected off websites (copy & paste :) ), that i thought were interesting:
Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.
The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?
The name of 2Pac's album is Makaveli... He was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one’s death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...
The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?
Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?
2Pac was cremated the day after he died... Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder?
Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?
2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 LP’s that have yet to be released.. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.
2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death
2pac ALWAYS wore his bullet proof vest, why wouldn't he wear it right after a big fight with Orlando Anderson, a known gang member
Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?
Suge Knight and 2Pac were the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death... (at the time)
The Makaveli album (The Don Killuminati - The 7day Theory): Who is the producer Simon? In the bible, Simon helped Jesus carry the cross. Who was helping Pac with his burden?...Suge Knight. What's Joshua Dream? Joshua in the Bible, dreamed of Jesus rising from the dead. Why did Pac have Exit Tupac-Enter Makaveli? Cuz he is a new person. Tupac was killed off.
Why wouldn’t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?
Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory" which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also the mysterious ‘SIMON’
There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez on Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the 7 day theory. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). His badge number in Gang Related adds up to 7 and 7 is repeatedly seen in both Gang Related and Gridlock'd.
Autopsy Photos: First off, how did Cathy Scott get a picture. She says they are locked up, but somehow this one slipped out. If you gonna show me a pic, show me one showing a face. Its also like she expects people to doubt the realness of the pic, cuz she tries to explain that we can clearly see his tatoos. She expects no one to believe her. She says it has to be him, cuz we can see the tatoo. Anybody who works in movies can make this pic. If you had a good computer and you good with it, you could make it. Her whole book is phony. The death certificate say Pac is 6ft, and weighs 215. I don't think so. And nobody puts 50 lbs of blood in someone. I bet Pac had this photo made so he can slow down the alive rumors, cuz at first there wasn't one done, then everyone start saying he is alive and now we have an autopsy. hmmmmmm
Lack of photos: How come late at night in New York where nothing big is going on at the time, a photographer can get a picture of Pac giving him the finger, while being put in the ambulance. Yet not one photographer, media person, or even a tourist,(this is Las Vegas) get one pic of Tupac. Someone got a pic of him sitting in a car with Suge, but no one got one when it matter. You think the Pic of him alive would be worth something, how much you think a pic of him shot would cost. All we get is a pic of his car, and his entourage on a curb, Cmon.
Why so fast: How are you gonna have a autopsy and a cremation in less then 24 hours after death. Let alone, this was a murder victim. That is unreal, but now we have no body. Also why did Pac make all those videos, songs, guest appearances, and movies, so fast. Cuz anything with his name on it now, means Mo Money.
Political Party: I believe Pac will return in 2003, right in time for the election campaign for 2004. Also did you notice thatJesse jackson and Al harpton were both at the hospital, when Pac supposely was shot.Jesse got experience with politics and so does Al. They can help pac out, and find a candidate for his party.(Pac can't run, he won't be 35 and he is a convicted felon).
Orlando Anderson: I see his situation in 2 ways. Either Pac just choose him to fight, to make it look like someone had a reason to kill him, or he was in on Pac's plot. I mean how come he ain't dead yet. I'm sure it is a lot easier to kill him, then Biggie. I don't care how much you stay in the house. And for those that say that Pac took off his vest cuz he felt safe, is bull. If the fight with Orlando was legit(which it wasn't) why would he feel safe. Orlando is a gang member. Orlando even tried to help Suge out, but some question that, so after the trail he changed his story.
7's: Why all these muthafuckin 7's. Its not a coindence. Its too many for that to be. Pac put them there for clues, to let us know he will return. Why does everything to do with his death has a 7 to it. C'mon, he had to die at 4:03. why not 4:04. It wouldn't work. Now his mom the person who is suppose to stop the alive rumor add another 7. In the video, "I wonder If Heaven Got a Getto," she has it where Pac arrive on Sept 14, in a place like Arizona or even Mexico, and then she goes to 6 days later. Another 7 days. What is her reason for this? She knows what she did.
And here are some quotes from 2pac's songs, words that pac said, that are hints of him being alive:
"I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word" This implies that he knew he would be dead when the album is released. (from "niggas gone changed")
In the song Thug Luv with the bone thugs, Bizzy after his verse and before Pac, says, "He's alive, He alive"
Why would they do that? Why would they change their album name to Art Of War. A title of Machiavelli's book. They are down with the plot. They know what is up.
He says: "I heard rumor I died, mudered in cold blood dramatized. Pictures of me in my final stages, you know mam cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted, Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missing, But I'm worldwide baby, I ain't hard 2 find..."
in his song: aint hard 2 find
That pretty much tells us everything that happened when he died
the picture he talks about is his fake autopsy photo
In the song Blashemy: When the guy in the beginning says,"unless the lord does return in the next 7 days...." after 7 days, listen for Pac to say,"7 years", and then right after he says this you hear, "don't start that blasphemy", and then again louder. He also starts to say follow me. He will return in 2003. He will be a leader.
in the song white man's world he says "My time away just made perfection. You think I'd die?"
why doesn't he just say "i'm faking my death" lol
"Gunshots to Tut, now you stuck." - from against all odds
Walter "King Tut" Johnson was killed in January of 97 outside a resturaunt, victim of gunshots. He was one of the three men who shot Pac in 1994 and robbed him. Later on in the hospital Tut called Pac and asked what he was still doing alive and said they would finishg the job. This is why Pac left the hospital so fast.
"I was stuck in the game, cuz everybody in the industry was fuckin' me man. Listen I got a scheme, break away, do my own thing, drop some conversation, sit back and let the phone ring."
ANOTHER line that explains everthing from the song fright night
in the same song he said "Niggas, they don't wanna see me rise, NINETY-SEVEN, watch me cut these muthafuckas down to size."
in '97 Biggie Smalls was killed, and B.I.G. was tupac's enemy
"Can you picture my specific plan? To be the man in this wicked land, underhanded hits are planned."
In this song - troublesome '96 - he is talking about his plan to fake his death, and he could be talking about putting hits on biggie and king tut after his death
These talk all about biggie's death!
In the song Fucking With the Wrong Nigga: "Watching time fly. Best stategize on a way to profit, Best organize how they ride so they can't stop it."
Pac after his so called death, and before Biggie's was sitting back watching time fly, trying to create a plan on how to make money for a political party, and also studying Biggie's moves to make a hit on him. Its only payback, for Biggie not warning Pac when he got shot.
from the same song "Made a call for some backup, the littles homies and my dawgz in a black truck. Buck Buck was the sound as they gats burst. No need for an ambulance, baby bring the black hearse, shoulda never fuck around buster, How you figure making moves on the wrong nigga."
The car that drove a along Biggie, was a BLACK Suburban. Biggie was killed , and even though Puffy got him to the hospital, should of just took him to the morgue.
in the song - god bless the dead tupac says "Rest in peace to my muthafucka Biggie Smalls."
how could he know that BIG is dead when biggie died 6 months AFTER him?
THAT'S WAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH TO BE COINCIDENCE!!
DaFoo
02-18-2002, 11:45 PM
The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
I am guessing you have never been to Las Vegas. It is a huge city. The cops would have a hard time finding it in a town of 70,000 people. There are other murders and burgleries that go on. The whole city wasn't on white Caddy watch that night.
The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?
Chase a Caddy that just shot the hell out of your friend? He's laying there dying, and most of his friends were pussies. In the fight (On the MGM Grand Hotel video camera. The last shot of Pac before he died), they just stand around. No help there.
The name of 2Pac's album is Makaveli... He was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one’s death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...
Now your just relating stuff. That's like the psychic dream. When you dream of a car crash and then you really get into a car crash. The dream told you, right! Nope. Because if your dad gets in a crash, or your mom, or anyone of your friends do, you will believe it was your dream. The spider web effect. Anyone can come up with coincidences on a CD. "Hey man, the first sentence on the credit has the words D E A T and H in it. Oh my God!"
Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?
No it's not. Not even close. All the big casinos now are run by corporations. Not to say the mob doesn't play a small part, but this isn't the 70's.
2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
I will check up on this, but I though Shug did get hit?
I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.
Okay, 72 million. Come on now. Even if it was true, it would go to his family, which brings me to:
Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?
That's great that he wanted a huge pussy party and a $hit load of alcohol and drugs at his funeral. A big party. Would your family do it for you? Keep in mind that he's not getting burried by Snoop Dogg here. His relatives choose. Also, that's what HE said. He also said he was a player, and up until he got with Death Row, he was a fucking dork.
I'm just going to stop there. This is so gay. Anything siad about Biggie was done before he died on record. Anything after was hinting that he might die. If you know anything about that, the person responsible is most likely an ex cops friend that hung out with Pac. He drove the same car spottted and looks identicle to the picture witesses had drawn. People knew. If Pac is alive, and he really does come out, I will let you have sex with my girlfriend. That is how conident I am.
I am guessing you have never been to Las Vegas. It is a huge city. The cops would have a hard time finding it in a town of 70,000 people. There are other murders and burgleries that go on. The whole city wasn't on white Caddy watch that night.
The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?
Chase a Caddy that just shot the hell out of your friend? He's laying there dying, and most of his friends were pussies. In the fight (On the MGM Grand Hotel video camera. The last shot of Pac before he died), they just stand around. No help there.
The name of 2Pac's album is Makaveli... He was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one’s death to fool their enemies... 2Pac was a fan of his and had read his books several times. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice...
Now your just relating stuff. That's like the psychic dream. When you dream of a car crash and then you really get into a car crash. The dream told you, right! Nope. Because if your dad gets in a crash, or your mom, or anyone of your friends do, you will believe it was your dream. The spider web effect. Anyone can come up with coincidences on a CD. "Hey man, the first sentence on the credit has the words D E A T and H in it. Oh my God!"
Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?
No it's not. Not even close. All the big casinos now are run by corporations. Not to say the mob doesn't play a small part, but this isn't the 70's.
2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
I will check up on this, but I though Shug did get hit?
I have heard that there was a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.
Okay, 72 million. Come on now. Even if it was true, it would go to his family, which brings me to:
Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?
That's great that he wanted a huge pussy party and a $hit load of alcohol and drugs at his funeral. A big party. Would your family do it for you? Keep in mind that he's not getting burried by Snoop Dogg here. His relatives choose. Also, that's what HE said. He also said he was a player, and up until he got with Death Row, he was a fucking dork.
I'm just going to stop there. This is so gay. Anything siad about Biggie was done before he died on record. Anything after was hinting that he might die. If you know anything about that, the person responsible is most likely an ex cops friend that hung out with Pac. He drove the same car spottted and looks identicle to the picture witesses had drawn. People knew. If Pac is alive, and he really does come out, I will let you have sex with my girlfriend. That is how conident I am.
DaFoo
02-18-2002, 11:49 PM
Oh, by the way. Do you really think that if it was staged, the doctors wouldn't have said anything? Wouldn't they get prosocuted? You can fire blanks at people on the street and get away with it in such a huge case. The cops hated him, they robably would have said something if he was still alive. Also, I have seen Pac in real life, in Texas. And he WAS NOT wearing a damn bullet proof vest. Wham, Bam, thank you m'aam.
ac427cpe
02-18-2002, 11:51 PM
dude... he is dead.
one of my best friends aunts is a nurse that was in the room when he died. i've talked to her about it, so it is either true, or REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD BS
one of my best friends aunts is a nurse that was in the room when he died. i've talked to her about it, so it is either true, or REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD BS
taranaki
02-19-2002, 12:06 AM
You'd have to be pretty gullible to take this kind of stuff seriously!
Not like Elvis....everybody knows he's working at K-Mart......
Not like Elvis....everybody knows he's working at K-Mart......
SickLude
02-19-2002, 01:07 AM
yeah, Hoffa lives down the street from me...:rolleyes:
Gonthrax
02-19-2002, 08:47 AM
G$, I love Tupac, I think he was a great rapper, but he's dead man... And it went down like this. Eastside, Westside, Fuck that click, no fuck that click. They got him and Biggie died because of it. Its gang violence, plain and simple.
Tom_S8
02-19-2002, 09:39 AM
I heard Tupac was seen in switzerland recently. Also i have heard that some of those "lost tapes" that were realized after his death were made by someone with a very similar voice and cops have found and arrested that guy...
Sham365
02-19-2002, 11:39 AM
OK. For the record. Tupac Shakur is dead.
D-E-A-D.
Regardless of what supposed facts are spewed across the internet he is dead. People may want to Elvis his ass but it aint gonna happen.
D-E-A-D.
Regardless of what supposed facts are spewed across the internet he is dead. People may want to Elvis his ass but it aint gonna happen.
Gonthrax
02-19-2002, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Sham365
OK. For the record. Tupac Shakur is dead.
D-E-A-D.
Regardless of what supposed facts are spewed across the internet he is dead. People may want to Elvis his ass but it aint gonna happen.
Yes!! And so is Biggie. I don't see why people say that 2pac is alive and dont' think Biggie is :(
To bad they are both dead :mad:
OK. For the record. Tupac Shakur is dead.
D-E-A-D.
Regardless of what supposed facts are spewed across the internet he is dead. People may want to Elvis his ass but it aint gonna happen.
Yes!! And so is Biggie. I don't see why people say that 2pac is alive and dont' think Biggie is :(
To bad they are both dead :mad:
Sham365
02-19-2002, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Gonthrax
To bad they are both dead :mad:
I don't wish death upon anyone, but I do not believe that the deaths of Biggie Smalls and Tupac were tragedies. Both rapped about killing people and being killed themselves. I think they were both victims of the images they created of themselves - especially Tupac. If they were alive today, do you actually think they would be born again Christians like Mase? I highly doubt it. Tupac lived the thug life, condoned the thug life and died before his time, just like a thug. Did you expect a guy like Tupac to die of old age? Just like when Big Pun died. Do you think people were shocked? He was grossly overweight and it's a know fact that being overweight to the point that he was will greatly diminish your life expectancy. Tragic, un-expected, sad, deaths are Big L, Freaky Tah, and Aaliyah. Those are true tragedies that peopel can feel bad about. But, if you lead a life that leads to an early death then people can't be shocked.
So, no, I don't think it was too bad. A loss to the music industry, yes, but a shock, no.
To bad they are both dead :mad:
I don't wish death upon anyone, but I do not believe that the deaths of Biggie Smalls and Tupac were tragedies. Both rapped about killing people and being killed themselves. I think they were both victims of the images they created of themselves - especially Tupac. If they were alive today, do you actually think they would be born again Christians like Mase? I highly doubt it. Tupac lived the thug life, condoned the thug life and died before his time, just like a thug. Did you expect a guy like Tupac to die of old age? Just like when Big Pun died. Do you think people were shocked? He was grossly overweight and it's a know fact that being overweight to the point that he was will greatly diminish your life expectancy. Tragic, un-expected, sad, deaths are Big L, Freaky Tah, and Aaliyah. Those are true tragedies that peopel can feel bad about. But, if you lead a life that leads to an early death then people can't be shocked.
So, no, I don't think it was too bad. A loss to the music industry, yes, but a shock, no.
gang$tarr
02-19-2002, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by DaFoo
I am guessing you have never been to Las Vegas. It is a huge city. The cops would have a hard time finding it in a town of 70,000 people. There are other murders and burgleries that go on. The whole city wasn't on white Caddy watch that night.
In a regular town, yes. but after an investigation, in a city in the middle of the desert. You tell me, where would they hide the car? They would have found it.
Chase a Caddy that just shot the hell out of your friend? He's laying there dying, and most of his friends were pussies. In the fight (On the MGM Grand Hotel video camera. The last shot of Pac before he died), they just stand around. No help there.
Okay, these were BODY GUARDS with him. Big hard guys from the ghetto like Suge. Their job is to protect his ass. They wouldn't just watch the car drive away. Pac's friend's aren't pussies, and i bet you wouldn't say that to any of their faces.
Now your just relating stuff. That's like the psychic dream. When you dream of a car crash and then you really get into a car crash. The dream told you, right! Nope. Because if your dad gets in a crash, or your mom, or anyone of your friends do, you will believe it was your dream. The spider web effect. Anyone can come up with coincidences on a CD. "Hey man, the first sentence on the credit has the words D E A T and H in it. Oh my God!"
Why would he change his name to Makavelli, a guy who knows the art of faking his death, right before his own death?
I will check up on this, but I though Shug did get hit?
Suge got grazed by a bullet, he didn't get hit. That's a fact
Okay, 72 million. Come on now. Even if it was true, it would go to his family, which brings me to:
I don't believe this either, it was a rumor.
That's great that he wanted a huge pussy party and a $hit load of alcohol and drugs at his funeral. A big party. Would your family do it for you? Keep in mind that he's not getting burried by Snoop Dogg here. His relatives choose. Also, that's what HE said. He also said he was a player, and up until he got with Death Row, he was a fucking dork.
I think you're stereotyping, not all rapping is alcohol, pussy and drugs. Just rapping one nice verse about pac at his funeral wouldn't hurt anybody, and i'm SURE is family wouldn't mind.
REMEMBER this is ALL copy & paste from websites..... i didn't write any of that stuff
I just thought it would be an interesting topic
And i'm pretty much on the line, i dunno weather to believe he's dead or alive. Just that is alot of coincidences......
and biggie is dead :)
i hope there's atleast one person on AF that'll post an opinion on why they think Pac is alive, so this thread gets interesting
(Skyline and DVS.... help me out :) )
I am guessing you have never been to Las Vegas. It is a huge city. The cops would have a hard time finding it in a town of 70,000 people. There are other murders and burgleries that go on. The whole city wasn't on white Caddy watch that night.
In a regular town, yes. but after an investigation, in a city in the middle of the desert. You tell me, where would they hide the car? They would have found it.
Chase a Caddy that just shot the hell out of your friend? He's laying there dying, and most of his friends were pussies. In the fight (On the MGM Grand Hotel video camera. The last shot of Pac before he died), they just stand around. No help there.
Okay, these were BODY GUARDS with him. Big hard guys from the ghetto like Suge. Their job is to protect his ass. They wouldn't just watch the car drive away. Pac's friend's aren't pussies, and i bet you wouldn't say that to any of their faces.
Now your just relating stuff. That's like the psychic dream. When you dream of a car crash and then you really get into a car crash. The dream told you, right! Nope. Because if your dad gets in a crash, or your mom, or anyone of your friends do, you will believe it was your dream. The spider web effect. Anyone can come up with coincidences on a CD. "Hey man, the first sentence on the credit has the words D E A T and H in it. Oh my God!"
Why would he change his name to Makavelli, a guy who knows the art of faking his death, right before his own death?
I will check up on this, but I though Shug did get hit?
Suge got grazed by a bullet, he didn't get hit. That's a fact
Okay, 72 million. Come on now. Even if it was true, it would go to his family, which brings me to:
I don't believe this either, it was a rumor.
That's great that he wanted a huge pussy party and a $hit load of alcohol and drugs at his funeral. A big party. Would your family do it for you? Keep in mind that he's not getting burried by Snoop Dogg here. His relatives choose. Also, that's what HE said. He also said he was a player, and up until he got with Death Row, he was a fucking dork.
I think you're stereotyping, not all rapping is alcohol, pussy and drugs. Just rapping one nice verse about pac at his funeral wouldn't hurt anybody, and i'm SURE is family wouldn't mind.
REMEMBER this is ALL copy & paste from websites..... i didn't write any of that stuff
I just thought it would be an interesting topic
And i'm pretty much on the line, i dunno weather to believe he's dead or alive. Just that is alot of coincidences......
and biggie is dead :)
i hope there's atleast one person on AF that'll post an opinion on why they think Pac is alive, so this thread gets interesting
(Skyline and DVS.... help me out :) )
gang$tarr
02-19-2002, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by DaFoo
Oh, by the way. Do you really think that if it was staged, the doctors wouldn't have said anything? Wouldn't they get prosocuted? You can fire blanks at people on the street and get away with it in such a huge case. The cops hated him, they robably would have said something if he was still alive. Also, I have seen Pac in real life, in Texas. And he WAS NOT wearing a damn bullet proof vest. Wham, Bam, thank you m'aam.
look at what i put up...... from some website. They said Vegas is a pay off city, the doctors could have easily been payed off. Also they said that Tupac wasn't even seen at the hospital, or he could have slipped out back.
Suge Knight aint no pussy.... alot of people in the rap industry are scared of him. P diddy won't even get in the same room as him, same with snoop.
He is tough, i don't doubt that bit and i'm sure i'm not the only one
also you say all his friends are pussies, well i'm pretty sure that the death of king tut, orlando johnson and biggie are some how pac related. And that their deaths were done by people who either knew or supported pac (this is just my opinion)
Right now i'm at school, so i don't have time to back my stuff up with facts, this is all that i'm just remembering off the top of my head
Oh, by the way. Do you really think that if it was staged, the doctors wouldn't have said anything? Wouldn't they get prosocuted? You can fire blanks at people on the street and get away with it in such a huge case. The cops hated him, they robably would have said something if he was still alive. Also, I have seen Pac in real life, in Texas. And he WAS NOT wearing a damn bullet proof vest. Wham, Bam, thank you m'aam.
look at what i put up...... from some website. They said Vegas is a pay off city, the doctors could have easily been payed off. Also they said that Tupac wasn't even seen at the hospital, or he could have slipped out back.
Suge Knight aint no pussy.... alot of people in the rap industry are scared of him. P diddy won't even get in the same room as him, same with snoop.
He is tough, i don't doubt that bit and i'm sure i'm not the only one
also you say all his friends are pussies, well i'm pretty sure that the death of king tut, orlando johnson and biggie are some how pac related. And that their deaths were done by people who either knew or supported pac (this is just my opinion)
Right now i'm at school, so i don't have time to back my stuff up with facts, this is all that i'm just remembering off the top of my head
SkYLiNeFrEaK
02-19-2002, 02:26 PM
Wow, I've never seen such pathetic uses of words from fellow members here.
First off, 2pac was cremated less then 24 hours after his death. EVEN if his moms payed a bunch of cash to thepeople that cremate bodies, they still can't cremate you less then 24 hours after the death of that particular loved one. Theres to much paperwork, and or things to be done with the body, before it can be cremated. and It can't happen in less then 24 hours. But, 2pac is dead? I'd like to see a corpse please......or records of his so called cremation. There isn't even a death certificate for Tupac. But, all im saying is, the docters can get prosecuted for hiding him? Not really. They don't have to say anything at all....Things can be staged, and yes, staged things happen all the time...Hmm, is 2pacs death a staged event. More then likely it was like this, for him to get out of the media spotlight he was always in. The only way out is. "Faking ones own death". That was pacs only way out of this. But I'm still sticking to the, 2pac isn't dead, until i see a death certificate, and remants of his body.......which there would be some....Don't go off posting that fake ass autopsy pic now, because EVERYONE knows that shit is fake.
First off, 2pac was cremated less then 24 hours after his death. EVEN if his moms payed a bunch of cash to thepeople that cremate bodies, they still can't cremate you less then 24 hours after the death of that particular loved one. Theres to much paperwork, and or things to be done with the body, before it can be cremated. and It can't happen in less then 24 hours. But, 2pac is dead? I'd like to see a corpse please......or records of his so called cremation. There isn't even a death certificate for Tupac. But, all im saying is, the docters can get prosecuted for hiding him? Not really. They don't have to say anything at all....Things can be staged, and yes, staged things happen all the time...Hmm, is 2pacs death a staged event. More then likely it was like this, for him to get out of the media spotlight he was always in. The only way out is. "Faking ones own death". That was pacs only way out of this. But I'm still sticking to the, 2pac isn't dead, until i see a death certificate, and remants of his body.......which there would be some....Don't go off posting that fake ass autopsy pic now, because EVERYONE knows that shit is fake.
ragt20
02-19-2002, 02:52 PM
yep he is alive and well .....only in disguise.....see below.......:eek:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/6451612pac.jpg
:hehe: :hehe: j/p :hehehe:
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/6451612pac.jpg
:hehe: :hehe: j/p :hehehe:
Sham365
02-19-2002, 03:32 PM
http://members.aol.com/subseven/2pacwink.gif
Gangstarr, thanks for keeping my dream alive, dogg. - Tupac Shakur
Eh, check this out!
Who killed Tupac Flash Movie (http://www.ighetto.com/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi?action=view&link=Flash_Movies&image=Who_Killed_Tupac.swf&img=&tt=swf)
Gangstarr, thanks for keeping my dream alive, dogg. - Tupac Shakur
Eh, check this out!
Who killed Tupac Flash Movie (http://www.ighetto.com/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi?action=view&link=Flash_Movies&image=Who_Killed_Tupac.swf&img=&tt=swf)
gang$tarr
02-19-2002, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Sham365
Gangstarr, thanks for keeping my dream alive, dogg. - Tupac Shakur
Eh, check this out!
Who killed Tupac Flash Movie (http://www.ighetto.com/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi?action=view&link=Flash_Movies&image=Who_Killed_Tupac.swf&img=&tt=swf) [/B]
see, now how could he possibly know that i wrote that if he's dead??!?! :confused:
he must be alive :D
Thanks for makin a statement skyline.... i thought there were more people that believe he's alive, and there would be a debate about his :)
Gangstarr, thanks for keeping my dream alive, dogg. - Tupac Shakur
Eh, check this out!
Who killed Tupac Flash Movie (http://www.ighetto.com/cgi-bin/gallery/gallery.cgi?action=view&link=Flash_Movies&image=Who_Killed_Tupac.swf&img=&tt=swf) [/B]
see, now how could he possibly know that i wrote that if he's dead??!?! :confused:
he must be alive :D
Thanks for makin a statement skyline.... i thought there were more people that believe he's alive, and there would be a debate about his :)
4ndrms
02-19-2002, 06:26 PM
he's in Jamacia right now sipping daquris,just wait until 2003 and find out,i know pac is still alive
NismoDrifts
02-19-2002, 07:08 PM
i dont care how it went down, you DO NOT have a complete autopsy AND cremation in less than 24 hours, if you do, one or the other was really done half-assed. Thats just the facts.
As for the 7 connection, 7 is the holy number.
If you get into the rapper mentality, especially 2pac's, this is definately something he would try. A normal person wouldnt, but there are too many advantages TOO faking it. Also all of the foretelling lyrics and everything, come on.
ok, flame as you wish, i just wanted to put it on the table that in cremation you dont just cook the body and be over and done with, its a long process, also theres more too an autopsy than can be done in less than 24 hours.
As for the 7 connection, 7 is the holy number.
If you get into the rapper mentality, especially 2pac's, this is definately something he would try. A normal person wouldnt, but there are too many advantages TOO faking it. Also all of the foretelling lyrics and everything, come on.
ok, flame as you wish, i just wanted to put it on the table that in cremation you dont just cook the body and be over and done with, its a long process, also theres more too an autopsy than can be done in less than 24 hours.
DaFoo
02-19-2002, 10:26 PM
Ganstarr, the fact that Vegas is in the desert doesn't mean anything. It's just like hiding a car in Dallas with a fence around the city. It's easy. Have you ever been there? It is like a 24 hour party on the strip. There are hundreds of ways in and out. It's not just a small place. The outside is surrounded by suburbs. There are thousans and thousands of houses all around the city. There are towns near it. This is just like a normal city. When it was first founded, it was in the middle of no where, not anymore. Just like if guy killed someone and ran from the cops and got away in another big city. They don't find them a lot of the time. It happens. I'm suprised the cops even responded to the call in the time that they did.
Sham365
02-20-2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by NismoDrifts
i dont care how it went down, you DO NOT have a complete autopsy AND cremation in less than 24 hours, if you do, one or the other was really done half-assed. Thats just the facts..
Do you know what's happening in Georgia right now? Remember, dude was dying for a long ass time. His mom and doctors probably knew he was gonna go and had it all taken care of beforehand.
Originally posted by NismoDrifts As for the 7 connection, 7 is the holy number.
No, 7 is the lucky number.
Originally posted by NismoDrifts Also all of the foretelling lyrics and everything, come on.
Come on now, every damn rapper on the planet speaks about death and people trying to kill them. If lyrics actually foretold what would happen, Snoop woulda been dead a long time ago (Murder was the Case song), Puffy woulda been dead, DMX (Open the Door, ATF! track), Nas, Ice T, and about 50 other rappers. The whole "foretelling lyrics" angle is such a blanket statement.
http://members.aol.com/subseven/2pacwink.gif
"I ain't dead yet." - Tupac, from his house in Barbados, 2/20/02
i dont care how it went down, you DO NOT have a complete autopsy AND cremation in less than 24 hours, if you do, one or the other was really done half-assed. Thats just the facts..
Do you know what's happening in Georgia right now? Remember, dude was dying for a long ass time. His mom and doctors probably knew he was gonna go and had it all taken care of beforehand.
Originally posted by NismoDrifts As for the 7 connection, 7 is the holy number.
No, 7 is the lucky number.
Originally posted by NismoDrifts Also all of the foretelling lyrics and everything, come on.
Come on now, every damn rapper on the planet speaks about death and people trying to kill them. If lyrics actually foretold what would happen, Snoop woulda been dead a long time ago (Murder was the Case song), Puffy woulda been dead, DMX (Open the Door, ATF! track), Nas, Ice T, and about 50 other rappers. The whole "foretelling lyrics" angle is such a blanket statement.
http://members.aol.com/subseven/2pacwink.gif
"I ain't dead yet." - Tupac, from his house in Barbados, 2/20/02
NismoDrifts
02-20-2002, 03:43 PM
no 7 in the bible is the holy number. Somethin about how the earth was created in seven days, probably jesus in their somewhere or somethin, im not religious, i just know that, but thats not the problem.
For an autopsy, you cant have that taken care of before someone dies.....errrr....same thing with cremation. You can have it all taken care of financially, but there are ceremonies and all of this stuff that goes into a cremation, an autopsies often have test results that need to be shipped places taken back, etc. With someone as high profile as that, they wont just say "oh yeah, he looks dead to me, cook him and get it over with"
For an autopsy, you cant have that taken care of before someone dies.....errrr....same thing with cremation. You can have it all taken care of financially, but there are ceremonies and all of this stuff that goes into a cremation, an autopsies often have test results that need to be shipped places taken back, etc. With someone as high profile as that, they wont just say "oh yeah, he looks dead to me, cook him and get it over with"
gang$tarr
02-20-2002, 03:53 PM
finally some different opinions!!! :D
there is no way they could do a cremation and autopsy in 24 hours, that's just bullshit
and dafoo, nah i don't want your girlfriend.... :)
there is no way they could do a cremation and autopsy in 24 hours, that's just bullshit
and dafoo, nah i don't want your girlfriend.... :)
Sham365
02-20-2002, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by DaFoo
.... If Pac is alive, and he really does come out, I will let you have sex with my girlfriend. That is how conident I am.
Gangstarr, speak for yourself. You never know, DaFoo's girlfriend may be fine as hell.
DaFoo...you got any pictures of her and does she know that you are offering her up?
.... If Pac is alive, and he really does come out, I will let you have sex with my girlfriend. That is how conident I am.
Gangstarr, speak for yourself. You never know, DaFoo's girlfriend may be fine as hell.
DaFoo...you got any pictures of her and does she know that you are offering her up?
NismoDrifts
02-20-2002, 05:00 PM
Sham ya horndog, lets show his girl some respect eh?
so...about those pics....
:D hahaah jk
so...about those pics....
:D hahaah jk
2001 AE
02-20-2002, 10:20 PM
Yup he's alive and so is Elvis :hehehe: A guy claiming to be the Big E will be performing a concest here this Friday on clear channel 1100 WTAM Cleveland. (I'm serious)
Jimster
02-21-2002, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by taranaki
You'd have to be pretty gullible to take this kind of stuff seriously!
Not like Elvis....everybody knows he's working at K-Mart......
I thought the guy who sold me my Autocar looked suspicious :D
But seriosly who GIVES A FUCK whether he is or is not alive, his music sucked and to my kimited knowledge he was a dickhead
You'd have to be pretty gullible to take this kind of stuff seriously!
Not like Elvis....everybody knows he's working at K-Mart......
I thought the guy who sold me my Autocar looked suspicious :D
But seriosly who GIVES A FUCK whether he is or is not alive, his music sucked and to my kimited knowledge he was a dickhead
gang$tarr
02-21-2002, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy_11_cars
But seriosly who GIVES A FUCK whether he is or is not alive, his music sucked and to my kimited knowledge he was a dickhead
Well that's your opinion, you probably don't like rap anyway, so i could name any rapper and you would say the same thing
un-informed
But seriosly who GIVES A FUCK whether he is or is not alive, his music sucked and to my kimited knowledge he was a dickhead
Well that's your opinion, you probably don't like rap anyway, so i could name any rapper and you would say the same thing
un-informed
Jimster
02-22-2002, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
Well that's your opinion, you probably don't like rap anyway, so i could name any rapper and you would say the same thing
un-informed
Need I say Rappers=Overpaid, show-offs with a dick about the size of a planters peanut
Seriously I think they should get out and face the REAL FUCKIN WORLD
Well that's your opinion, you probably don't like rap anyway, so i could name any rapper and you would say the same thing
un-informed
Need I say Rappers=Overpaid, show-offs with a dick about the size of a planters peanut
Seriously I think they should get out and face the REAL FUCKIN WORLD
NismoDrifts
02-22-2002, 07:28 AM
so jimmy_11_cars, what do you listen to?
seriously dont turn this into a flame thread, thatd just be gay
seriously dont turn this into a flame thread, thatd just be gay
gang$tarr
02-22-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy_11_cars
Need I say Rappers=Overpaid, show-offs with a dick about the size of a planters peanut
Seriously I think they should get out and face the REAL FUCKIN WORLD
This is the most un-informed dumb post i have ever read
first off, they get paid as much as every other musician (depending on sales)
Do you think Britney Spears is over payed? I think she has FAR less talent than most rappers
Now the fact that you've been checkin out rapper's penis sizes is too much, so i'm not gunna even touch that subject
Now about facing the real world, if you knew anything at all about the rap music industry you wouldn't say that. Many rappers have started businesses or their own record labels. For example Jay-Zs rock-a-fella, he has to manage that and cover alot of business aspects. He also takes care of his clothing line rockawear, alot of rappers are very well educated in business and have ALOT of responsibilites. What you see in music videos isn't their entire life, just to let you know.
Some more examples would be Dr. Dre's Aftermath records, Nas's Esco clothing line, sean "puffy" combs sean jean clothing line and his Bad Boy records, etc.
Need I say Rappers=Overpaid, show-offs with a dick about the size of a planters peanut
Seriously I think they should get out and face the REAL FUCKIN WORLD
This is the most un-informed dumb post i have ever read
first off, they get paid as much as every other musician (depending on sales)
Do you think Britney Spears is over payed? I think she has FAR less talent than most rappers
Now the fact that you've been checkin out rapper's penis sizes is too much, so i'm not gunna even touch that subject
Now about facing the real world, if you knew anything at all about the rap music industry you wouldn't say that. Many rappers have started businesses or their own record labels. For example Jay-Zs rock-a-fella, he has to manage that and cover alot of business aspects. He also takes care of his clothing line rockawear, alot of rappers are very well educated in business and have ALOT of responsibilites. What you see in music videos isn't their entire life, just to let you know.
Some more examples would be Dr. Dre's Aftermath records, Nas's Esco clothing line, sean "puffy" combs sean jean clothing line and his Bad Boy records, etc.
taranaki
02-22-2002, 12:11 PM
rap music had a certain appeal when it first started,because it was an act of rebellion that came up from the ghettoes.Thesedays it's just a bunch of pathetic middle class wannabee bad guys who are making shitloads of money by stirring up hatred and violence among the less fortunate. People who have never experienced deprivation, injustice and race discrimination should stay away from rap music. Anybody who can't see that the rap scene has just turned into another money-making arm of the music industry with all the hype and bullshit that goes with it is a fool.
And Tupac is dead,not that most of the world gives a flying f*ck anyway.
And Tupac is dead,not that most of the world gives a flying f*ck anyway.
Gonthrax
02-22-2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by taranaki
rap music had a certain appeal when it first started,because it was an act of rebellion that came up from the ghettoes.Thesedays it's just a bunch of pathetic middle class wannabee bad guys who are making shitloads of money by stirring up hatred and violence among the less fortunate. People who have never experienced deprivation, injustice and race discrimination should stay away from rap music. Anybody who can't see that the rap scene has just turned into another money-making arm of the music industry with all the hype and bullshit that goes with it is a fool.
Well most rappers nowadays have said "Show me the money" a few to many times and have gone commercial, not to mention any names here *cough cough* Nelly. But there are some who are keeping it street, rappin about issues true to their roots, not about ice, bentlies and cash. Now there are some who ARE keepin it street and still talkin about ice, bentlies and cash. Such as the whole Cash Money group. But if you ask me it's all about personal taste, I think you can enjoy rap even if you haven't been there and lived the life. Me? I like rap, not because I can so much relate to all the stuff, although I can relate so SOME of it. I like it because its energetic music with a good beat to nod your head to. And I admire the fact that some people can rap, I think its amazing, I can say the words but it doesn't sound right :(
rap music had a certain appeal when it first started,because it was an act of rebellion that came up from the ghettoes.Thesedays it's just a bunch of pathetic middle class wannabee bad guys who are making shitloads of money by stirring up hatred and violence among the less fortunate. People who have never experienced deprivation, injustice and race discrimination should stay away from rap music. Anybody who can't see that the rap scene has just turned into another money-making arm of the music industry with all the hype and bullshit that goes with it is a fool.
Well most rappers nowadays have said "Show me the money" a few to many times and have gone commercial, not to mention any names here *cough cough* Nelly. But there are some who are keeping it street, rappin about issues true to their roots, not about ice, bentlies and cash. Now there are some who ARE keepin it street and still talkin about ice, bentlies and cash. Such as the whole Cash Money group. But if you ask me it's all about personal taste, I think you can enjoy rap even if you haven't been there and lived the life. Me? I like rap, not because I can so much relate to all the stuff, although I can relate so SOME of it. I like it because its energetic music with a good beat to nod your head to. And I admire the fact that some people can rap, I think its amazing, I can say the words but it doesn't sound right :(
NismoDrifts
02-22-2002, 03:54 PM
seriously, lets get half of the people here to freestyle.......
in rap you have to get a good beat, you have to take a subject, rap for about 4 minutes about it, and have it sound good and make sense.....its a lot harder than a lot of people think.......no screaming and no guitar solos to buy time either
in rap you have to get a good beat, you have to take a subject, rap for about 4 minutes about it, and have it sound good and make sense.....its a lot harder than a lot of people think.......no screaming and no guitar solos to buy time either
Tom_S8
02-22-2002, 05:00 PM
They are like modern poets , do you think poets are dumb , suck or so... I don't like many of poets , but they got many prizes , money etc. and rappers are just poets talking about today's problems IMO...
gang$tarr
02-22-2002, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Tom_S8
They are like modern poets , do you think poets are dumb , suck or so... I don't like many of poets , but they got many prizes , money etc. and rappers are just poets talking about today's problems IMO...
That is exactly right :)
Most people are really un-informed and think that all rap is just bling bling, fucking hoes, etc. garbage. That is shitty mainstream/commercial rap which i don't listen to (with a couple exceptions). Most of the rap you see on BET and all the music videos isn't rap in general, there are lots of different styles. If you listen to any politically concious emcee you would understand. Something by common, talib kweli or mos def is a good start, they rap about troubles in life and other things, not about fucking girls, doing drugs, all their money, etc. I hate most of that type of rap.
Here's an example of Talib Kweli rapping about women, but no "fucking hoes" type garbage:
"Love is blind, you just see bright light/ You up in the club feelin' the night life/ lookin' for the right type/ Blood rushing to your heart making it beat/ When she swept you off your feet/ and made it complete/ You know the plan you had to conquer the world/ Thinking you Scarface, looking for that perfect girl/ And now you found her/ Started with romantic, then got to frantic/ Then things thats normally small become gigantic/ Now y'all sinkin like the Titanic/ here come the panic/ Bein with you like a habit/ without you I can't stand it/ It's tragic when you wonder when you lost that magic"
The way they play on words is really impressive, that's not even close to the best example either. It's just the song i was listening to while reading this.
Anybody that says rappers just talk really doesn't know anything about the subject, i want to see anybody that says that just start freestyling, coming up with stuff right off the top of their head.... it really aint easy, and takes alotta talent
They are like modern poets , do you think poets are dumb , suck or so... I don't like many of poets , but they got many prizes , money etc. and rappers are just poets talking about today's problems IMO...
That is exactly right :)
Most people are really un-informed and think that all rap is just bling bling, fucking hoes, etc. garbage. That is shitty mainstream/commercial rap which i don't listen to (with a couple exceptions). Most of the rap you see on BET and all the music videos isn't rap in general, there are lots of different styles. If you listen to any politically concious emcee you would understand. Something by common, talib kweli or mos def is a good start, they rap about troubles in life and other things, not about fucking girls, doing drugs, all their money, etc. I hate most of that type of rap.
Here's an example of Talib Kweli rapping about women, but no "fucking hoes" type garbage:
"Love is blind, you just see bright light/ You up in the club feelin' the night life/ lookin' for the right type/ Blood rushing to your heart making it beat/ When she swept you off your feet/ and made it complete/ You know the plan you had to conquer the world/ Thinking you Scarface, looking for that perfect girl/ And now you found her/ Started with romantic, then got to frantic/ Then things thats normally small become gigantic/ Now y'all sinkin like the Titanic/ here come the panic/ Bein with you like a habit/ without you I can't stand it/ It's tragic when you wonder when you lost that magic"
The way they play on words is really impressive, that's not even close to the best example either. It's just the song i was listening to while reading this.
Anybody that says rappers just talk really doesn't know anything about the subject, i want to see anybody that says that just start freestyling, coming up with stuff right off the top of their head.... it really aint easy, and takes alotta talent
Jimster
02-22-2002, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
This is the most un-informed dumb post i have ever read
first off, they get paid as much as every other musician (depending on sales)
Do you think Britney Spears is over payed? I think she has FAR less talent than most rappers
Now the fact that you've been checkin out rapper's penis sizes is too much, so i'm not gunna even touch that subject
Now about facing the real world, if you knew anything at all about the rap music industry you wouldn't say that. Many rappers have started businesses or their own record labels. For example Jay-Zs rock-a-fella, he has to manage that and cover alot of business aspects. He also takes care of his clothing line rockawear, alot of rappers are very well educated in business and have ALOT of responsibilites. What you see in music videos isn't their entire life, just to let you know.
Some more examples would be Dr. Dre's Aftermath records, Nas's Esco clothing line, sean "puffy" combs sean jean clothing line and his Bad Boy records, etc.
Yah incase you didn't know we are all entitled to an opinion
I think that all American musicians are overpayed and it pisses me off the way they flaunt it around (They being Rappers and Popstars) with all that ridiculous jewellery and boy do they let all that crap go to thier heads (And think they are too good for everyone)- this is why I like music from Europe and down-under because no matter how much money the artists make they never let it go to thier heads.
The penis part is something I assumed not something I know.
But I am with you in thinking that Sean Puffy Combes is a guy who has worked for a pretty penny. But seriously I would love to see a rap musician live 12 months like a Kiwi music artist because that my friend is the REAL WORLD.
And as long as I have my way Darude and IIO will blast out my stereo
This is the most un-informed dumb post i have ever read
first off, they get paid as much as every other musician (depending on sales)
Do you think Britney Spears is over payed? I think she has FAR less talent than most rappers
Now the fact that you've been checkin out rapper's penis sizes is too much, so i'm not gunna even touch that subject
Now about facing the real world, if you knew anything at all about the rap music industry you wouldn't say that. Many rappers have started businesses or their own record labels. For example Jay-Zs rock-a-fella, he has to manage that and cover alot of business aspects. He also takes care of his clothing line rockawear, alot of rappers are very well educated in business and have ALOT of responsibilites. What you see in music videos isn't their entire life, just to let you know.
Some more examples would be Dr. Dre's Aftermath records, Nas's Esco clothing line, sean "puffy" combs sean jean clothing line and his Bad Boy records, etc.
Yah incase you didn't know we are all entitled to an opinion
I think that all American musicians are overpayed and it pisses me off the way they flaunt it around (They being Rappers and Popstars) with all that ridiculous jewellery and boy do they let all that crap go to thier heads (And think they are too good for everyone)- this is why I like music from Europe and down-under because no matter how much money the artists make they never let it go to thier heads.
The penis part is something I assumed not something I know.
But I am with you in thinking that Sean Puffy Combes is a guy who has worked for a pretty penny. But seriously I would love to see a rap musician live 12 months like a Kiwi music artist because that my friend is the REAL WORLD.
And as long as I have my way Darude and IIO will blast out my stereo
gang$tarr
02-22-2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy_11_cars
Yah incase you didn't know we are all entitled to an opinion
I think that all American musicians are overpayed and it pisses me off the way they flaunt it around (They being Rappers and Popstars) with all that ridiculous jewellery and boy do they let all that crap go to thier heads (And think they are too good for everyone)- this is why I like music from Europe and down-under because no matter how much money the artists make they never let it go to thier heads.
yeah, sorry if i sounded harsh :) didn't mean to insult you or anything... sometimes just comes out :)
but you don't have to stereotype, because most of the rappers i listen to don't flaunt it at all, they don't wear any chains or drive bentley's, etc.
most of them have to work pretty hard for money, since they don't sell mult-platinum records
but i believe that their skills are MUCH better than the cheesy, commercial rap
Yah incase you didn't know we are all entitled to an opinion
I think that all American musicians are overpayed and it pisses me off the way they flaunt it around (They being Rappers and Popstars) with all that ridiculous jewellery and boy do they let all that crap go to thier heads (And think they are too good for everyone)- this is why I like music from Europe and down-under because no matter how much money the artists make they never let it go to thier heads.
yeah, sorry if i sounded harsh :) didn't mean to insult you or anything... sometimes just comes out :)
but you don't have to stereotype, because most of the rappers i listen to don't flaunt it at all, they don't wear any chains or drive bentley's, etc.
most of them have to work pretty hard for money, since they don't sell mult-platinum records
but i believe that their skills are MUCH better than the cheesy, commercial rap
Jimster
02-23-2002, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
MUCH better than the cheesy, commercial rap Does Snoop Dog fill this catagorey??? I remember listening to him in Uni not too shabby he is
MUCH better than the cheesy, commercial rap Does Snoop Dog fill this catagorey??? I remember listening to him in Uni not too shabby he is
Gonthrax
02-23-2002, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy_11_cars
Does Snoop Dog fill this catagorey??? I remember listening to him in Uni not too shabby he is
I like snoop, he is a real rapper IMHO. So is Jay Z, they are rapping because they love to do it, you can tell by their music. Now I also like Cash Money, and they do rap about ice, hoes, bentles, jets, and bricks... But I think there is alot of talent in the whole Cash Money record label, and its up beat, high energy rap, I like that. My favorite rapper is out of Cash Money, Turk. It's a tie between him and Jay Z for my favo rapper.
Does Snoop Dog fill this catagorey??? I remember listening to him in Uni not too shabby he is
I like snoop, he is a real rapper IMHO. So is Jay Z, they are rapping because they love to do it, you can tell by their music. Now I also like Cash Money, and they do rap about ice, hoes, bentles, jets, and bricks... But I think there is alot of talent in the whole Cash Money record label, and its up beat, high energy rap, I like that. My favorite rapper is out of Cash Money, Turk. It's a tie between him and Jay Z for my favo rapper.
gang$tarr
02-23-2002, 01:55 PM
i think cash money have no skills..... they really can't rap worth shit, but they get some okay beats and platinum around their neck so people buy their albums
I would put snoop into commercial rap now, but his first album that was put out by deathrow records "doggystyle" was a good CD
I would put snoop into commercial rap now, but his first album that was put out by deathrow records "doggystyle" was a good CD
JD@af
02-23-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
THAT'S WAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH TO BE COINCIDENCE!! Wow, G$ I think that's got to be the longest post you've ever made!!! :D No, the day I saw the newspaper headline that he was dead (I think it was September of 1996), I said "bullshit." And I have never truly doubted the validity of my snap judgment that day. I have just about zero doubt that he is alive and well, just hiding out from enemies and perhaps some strategic government agencies.
THAT'S WAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH TO BE COINCIDENCE!! Wow, G$ I think that's got to be the longest post you've ever made!!! :D No, the day I saw the newspaper headline that he was dead (I think it was September of 1996), I said "bullshit." And I have never truly doubted the validity of my snap judgment that day. I have just about zero doubt that he is alive and well, just hiding out from enemies and perhaps some strategic government agencies.
ImportFanatics.com
02-24-2002, 09:55 AM
I think Jay-Z is nothing but garbage now...He is way to played out and is starting to be the equivalent of Puff Daddy....Someone should shoot them both!! :devil:
NismoDrifts
02-24-2002, 11:46 AM
Ja Rule needs to change up his style every now and then too, he makes a song with some hot chick, has it played out, picks up some new hot chick, plays out that song, its gettin old
ImportFanatics.com
02-24-2002, 12:15 PM
Yeah but he's not near as bad as Jay-Z.....
gang$tarr
02-24-2002, 01:15 PM
in the words of nas "that gay-z and cockafella records"
but Jay-Z is aright, if you've actually listened to all of the blueprint, it aint too bad. There are the couple shitty commercial songs, but it's pretty good.
Now i gotta question:
Can't Tupac be charged or somethin for faking his death when he comes back?!? :confused:
but Jay-Z is aright, if you've actually listened to all of the blueprint, it aint too bad. There are the couple shitty commercial songs, but it's pretty good.
Now i gotta question:
Can't Tupac be charged or somethin for faking his death when he comes back?!? :confused:
ImportFanatics.com
02-24-2002, 01:47 PM
2Pac is dead bro -----
He's not coming back cause he is gone.......
Don't you think that somewhere and somehow if 2Pac was alive somebody would of known about this? Don't you think there would be pictures taken of him hiding out somewhere?? Unless of course, he is hiding in the caves with Bin Laden....err....or if he is dead too... :bloated:
He's not coming back cause he is gone.......
Don't you think that somewhere and somehow if 2Pac was alive somebody would of known about this? Don't you think there would be pictures taken of him hiding out somewhere?? Unless of course, he is hiding in the caves with Bin Laden....err....or if he is dead too... :bloated:
SkyNex721
02-24-2002, 01:48 PM
Yes. If they cashed in on the life insurance, they can be charged with fraud.
taranaki
02-24-2002, 03:20 PM
Dead musicians don't sell many cd's unless they are kept in the public eye.It's all music industry hype to make sure the gravy train keeps rolling.It's been happening since Glenn Miller dissappeared.
marc49
02-24-2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by taranaki
Dead musicians don't sell many cd's unless they are kept in the public eye.It's all music industry hype to make sure the gravy train keeps rolling.It's been happening since Glenn Miller dissappeared.
YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!!!
the music industry doesn't give a shit about it's music artists, it cares about how much money they can bring in. they got best of both worlds, didn't have to deal with the shit tupac would do, and they get to make more and more money off of him on his "unreleased" songs and shit..
for the believers, he's not dead, just like elvis isn't dead, they went home to their home planet (Men in Black reference ;) )
what is the significance of 2003??
I don't know what is more horrifying, the fact that people think he's still alive, or the fact that people try to find "evidence" to prove that he's not dead. To say too much information can't be coincidence..
He's dead, deal with it.
Dead musicians don't sell many cd's unless they are kept in the public eye.It's all music industry hype to make sure the gravy train keeps rolling.It's been happening since Glenn Miller dissappeared.
YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!!!
the music industry doesn't give a shit about it's music artists, it cares about how much money they can bring in. they got best of both worlds, didn't have to deal with the shit tupac would do, and they get to make more and more money off of him on his "unreleased" songs and shit..
for the believers, he's not dead, just like elvis isn't dead, they went home to their home planet (Men in Black reference ;) )
what is the significance of 2003??
I don't know what is more horrifying, the fact that people think he's still alive, or the fact that people try to find "evidence" to prove that he's not dead. To say too much information can't be coincidence..
He's dead, deal with it.
G_racer
02-24-2002, 05:50 PM
i made a bet with a friend of mine with all of my money in the bank that 2pac is dead. we all still love him and biggie too, but face it our most beloved rapper is gone. you'll see him in heaven, just wait.:angel:
gang$tarr
02-24-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by SkyNex721
Yes. If they cashed in on the life insurance, they can be charged with fraud.
I read that his life insurance hasn't been cashed yet
Originally posted by marc49
what is the significance of 2003??
Read the first post of this thread.... the significance of 7. The 7 day theory, and all the other numbers that add up to 7. He died in 1996, which means if he were to come back, it would be in 2003.
That's why in one of his songs he says "7 day theory" and then in the background whispers "7 years"
Yes. If they cashed in on the life insurance, they can be charged with fraud.
I read that his life insurance hasn't been cashed yet
Originally posted by marc49
what is the significance of 2003??
Read the first post of this thread.... the significance of 7. The 7 day theory, and all the other numbers that add up to 7. He died in 1996, which means if he were to come back, it would be in 2003.
That's why in one of his songs he says "7 day theory" and then in the background whispers "7 years"
Focal_M3
02-26-2002, 04:00 PM
i heard that shit back in the day like a month after he was shot. it's old news. i'm definately one of the biggest tupac fans out there. but theres tons of theorys (the same shit happened when elvis died) i believe some of them but there are also the "Suge killed Tupac theorys". listen to Makaveli track one, the first 7or so seconds, turn it up loud and you'll hear one of the Outlaws(fatal hussein i think) say "suge shot em...suge shot em *echoing*" ...hmmm, then he was found dead in his apartment a day later ??? When suge bailed pac outta jail, he signed a contract for like 2 or 3 albums. Tupac was planning on starting "Outlaw Records" with his young group "Outlaw Immortals". Naturally, tupac would've gained back rights to all his material. Suge, knowing that's millions of dollars leaving him decides to kill him, thus keeping rights to all his material and strategically releasing one or two songs(of the 120+ unreleased tracks he left behind) on each "Death Row" release. One or two pac songs on an album practically = platinum . Of corse suge didn't think Afeni(pac's mom) would win back most of his material back in a law suit.
Anyways, sorry for rambling. This is just a topic(rapper) that i've studied and adored for many many years. I don't support the "alive" or "suge killed him" theory but... they are both very intriguing.
peace
-Focal
Anyways, sorry for rambling. This is just a topic(rapper) that i've studied and adored for many many years. I don't support the "alive" or "suge killed him" theory but... they are both very intriguing.
peace
-Focal
gang$tarr
02-26-2002, 04:07 PM
I don't believe any of the Suge killed tupac bullshit..... that's all just to stir up more controversey with Suge.
They were best friends..... and i don't think Suge would hire people to shoot up a car HE is in, he's not that stupid, he could have been killed.
They were best friends..... and i don't think Suge would hire people to shoot up a car HE is in, he's not that stupid, he could have been killed.
Focal_M3
02-26-2002, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
I don't believe any of the Suge killed tupac bullshit..... that's all just to stir up more controversey with Suge.
They were best friends..... and i don't think Suge would hire people to shoot up a car HE is in, he's not that stupid, he could have been killed.
again, i dont support either theory. but did you listen to that track?? kinda eirie :uhoh: . anyways, it's also kinda strange that pac gets hit several times and suge is "grazed". Suge is like 6' 8" 450lb! Pac's 5'9 or 8, 150-60lb
;)
I don't believe any of the Suge killed tupac bullshit..... that's all just to stir up more controversey with Suge.
They were best friends..... and i don't think Suge would hire people to shoot up a car HE is in, he's not that stupid, he could have been killed.
again, i dont support either theory. but did you listen to that track?? kinda eirie :uhoh: . anyways, it's also kinda strange that pac gets hit several times and suge is "grazed". Suge is like 6' 8" 450lb! Pac's 5'9 or 8, 150-60lb
;)
Focal_M3
02-26-2002, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
in the words of nas "that gay-z and cockafella records"
but Jay-Z is aright, if you've actually listened to all of the blueprint, it aint too bad. There are the couple shitty commercial songs, but it's pretty good.
Now i gotta question:
Can't Tupac be charged or somethin for faking his death when he comes back?!? :confused:
just read this, yes, it's a very serious felony...but who cares..;)
in the words of nas "that gay-z and cockafella records"
but Jay-Z is aright, if you've actually listened to all of the blueprint, it aint too bad. There are the couple shitty commercial songs, but it's pretty good.
Now i gotta question:
Can't Tupac be charged or somethin for faking his death when he comes back?!? :confused:
just read this, yes, it's a very serious felony...but who cares..;)
Sham365
02-26-2002, 06:19 PM
Hmmm...correct me if I'm wrong...but last I checked, we didn't have any rappers coming out of New Zealand, have any major hip-hop publications based out of New Zealand, a record label, a clothing line or even a New Zealand influence observed in the world of rap music. But hey, I'm open to new things! I may laugh at your opinions of rap music when YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...but I'll listen to you just the same.
gang$tarr
02-26-2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Focal_M3
again, i dont support either theory. but did you listen to that track?? kinda eirie :uhoh: . anyways, it's also kinda strange that pac gets hit several times and suge is "grazed". Suge is like 6' 8" 450lb! Pac's 5'9 or 8, 150-60lb
;)
Suge Knight produced the album!! Not like he would just leave that on there, he's not an idiot..... if it had any significance i'm sure he would have takin it out
and since Suge only got grazed, that's one fact that makes it look like pac's still alive
that's just like in the bone thugs song "thug luv" before pac's verse bizzy bone says "he's alive, he's alive"
again, i dont support either theory. but did you listen to that track?? kinda eirie :uhoh: . anyways, it's also kinda strange that pac gets hit several times and suge is "grazed". Suge is like 6' 8" 450lb! Pac's 5'9 or 8, 150-60lb
;)
Suge Knight produced the album!! Not like he would just leave that on there, he's not an idiot..... if it had any significance i'm sure he would have takin it out
and since Suge only got grazed, that's one fact that makes it look like pac's still alive
that's just like in the bone thugs song "thug luv" before pac's verse bizzy bone says "he's alive, he's alive"
taranaki
02-27-2002, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by Sham365
Hmmm...correct me if I'm wrong...but last I checked, we didn't have any rappers coming out of New Zealand, have any major hip-hop publications based out of New Zealand, a record label, a clothing line or even a New Zealand influence observed in the world of rap music. But hey, I'm open to new things! I may laugh at your opinions of rap music when YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...but I'll listen to you just the same.
What a quaint and old-fashioned notion...that you actually have to live within a certain geographical boundary to understand the finer points of its music culture(music culture as a term to describe commercial rap is an oxymoron,but that's another story).
Sham,can we assume that you have been living with your head in a bucket for the last 40 years?The world has changed since you last peeked out from under it.In case you didn't realise....we get T.V. in New Zealand.We get newspapers in New Zealand.There's a little thing called the World Wide Web.....we can acess that in New Zealand too.We have a small but perfectly formed music industry,and yes,we have rap and hip-hop too.Our radio stations play exactly the same stuff as yours,and new music reaches us no later than it reaches you.We may be a small country,but unlike parts of the United States, we know how to look beyond our own back yard.I'll forgive you for knowing five fifths of bugger all about my country,if you will do me the courtesy of not showing your ignorance again.Have a happy day!:)
Hmmm...correct me if I'm wrong...but last I checked, we didn't have any rappers coming out of New Zealand, have any major hip-hop publications based out of New Zealand, a record label, a clothing line or even a New Zealand influence observed in the world of rap music. But hey, I'm open to new things! I may laugh at your opinions of rap music when YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT...but I'll listen to you just the same.
What a quaint and old-fashioned notion...that you actually have to live within a certain geographical boundary to understand the finer points of its music culture(music culture as a term to describe commercial rap is an oxymoron,but that's another story).
Sham,can we assume that you have been living with your head in a bucket for the last 40 years?The world has changed since you last peeked out from under it.In case you didn't realise....we get T.V. in New Zealand.We get newspapers in New Zealand.There's a little thing called the World Wide Web.....we can acess that in New Zealand too.We have a small but perfectly formed music industry,and yes,we have rap and hip-hop too.Our radio stations play exactly the same stuff as yours,and new music reaches us no later than it reaches you.We may be a small country,but unlike parts of the United States, we know how to look beyond our own back yard.I'll forgive you for knowing five fifths of bugger all about my country,if you will do me the courtesy of not showing your ignorance again.Have a happy day!:)
Focal_M3
02-27-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
Suge Knight produced the album!! Not like he would just leave that on there, he's not an idiot..... if it had any significance i'm sure he would have takin it out
and since Suge only got grazed, that's one fact that makes it look like pac's still alive
that's just like in the bone thugs song "thug luv" before pac's verse bizzy bone says "he's alive, he's alive"
yea, there are plenty of songs like that. we all know suge produced it, but you can't hear it unless you turn it up real loud and it's kind of distorted cause of the other noises(traffic and what not).
Anyways, if you really think he's alive :ylsuper rock on man. I'm indifferent, i just love the man's music. And based on all facts, he's dead, so shouldn't we be mourning his death??
peace :smoka:
Suge Knight produced the album!! Not like he would just leave that on there, he's not an idiot..... if it had any significance i'm sure he would have takin it out
and since Suge only got grazed, that's one fact that makes it look like pac's still alive
that's just like in the bone thugs song "thug luv" before pac's verse bizzy bone says "he's alive, he's alive"
yea, there are plenty of songs like that. we all know suge produced it, but you can't hear it unless you turn it up real loud and it's kind of distorted cause of the other noises(traffic and what not).
Anyways, if you really think he's alive :ylsuper rock on man. I'm indifferent, i just love the man's music. And based on all facts, he's dead, so shouldn't we be mourning his death??
peace :smoka:
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