99 z28 vs. dodge stealth rt tt

This punk in a dodge stealth thinks he shouldnt even waste his time racing me in my 99 z28. He dont know shit about cars, he says hes gonna supercharge it, lol its already twin turbo! i know it has over 300hp and is all wheel dirve, but im pretty sure i can take him, i was wondering if anyone knew the quartermile times for the stealth or the exact hp rating stock.

That might be pretty close... guys?

i think stealth's run 13.1 to 13.4....something like that....it all depends on what his supercharger and twin-turbo setup does...haha...he might kick your ass with all that boost...good luck...peace

It's pretty much like a VR4, but since he's talking shit and doesn't seem to know a lot about cars, I'm assuming he's a bad driver. From a stop, I think it would be pretty even, but once you hit third, you should be able to take him. I heard 3rd in Z28s and SSs are monsters.

2nd and 3rd are pretty violent, besides i have over 340rwhp

OH then, well, you should murder him after the launch. He'll probably get you off the line but you should catch up and murder him soon after.

He won't stand a chance from a roll if he's stock.

im gonna race him today or tommorow, ill post how it goes here, i dont know if he has any mods, though, also a 2000 trans-am will be racing with us, which i am more worried about that the stealth,

in 1999 car and driver tested the 99 TA autovs the 99 camaro ss 6-spd, the 99 TA beat the ss by 3 tenths ins the qm, which is weird because they ahevt eh same motors

It should be close against the trans am. Videotape it.

Edit: How much does the TA weigh?

the TA actually weighs more than a camaro becaeuse it has more body effects, i think i t was just the driver, the TA was auto and the ss was a 6spd

trust me its hard as fuck to drive a 6spd ls1 fast without melting the tires into third

Acutally I just checked the stats.

The 99 SS makes 15 more hp than the 99 TA, but the torque is the same.

Also, the SS weighs about 100 lbs more than the TA.

The Z28 has exactly the same specs as the TA, same weight and same engien specs. If you're mod and he's not, you should take him too.

the twin turbo stealth is pretty deadly stock, if its modded then watch out

and its AWD not FWD so watch out it'll beat u off the line, but you should be able to take him from a rolla

Who said it was FWD?

He should shouldn't have too many problems taking it right after the launch. Also, he makes 340 to the wheels, the Stelath probably makes under 300 to the wheels if it's stock, and it weighs almost 3800 lbs. If they're equal drivers, he should have no problems.

the ram air TA makes the same as the SS 320, the z28 and TA make the same 305, the only difference between the 305 and 320 is the intakes, the ram air and ss have hood scoops for their modified intakes, i have intake

the ss is heavier that the firebird formula, but less than the TA i think,

If the stealth is stock, it will run 13.4 at best, it puts down approx 240AWHP. The thing is for under a $100 he could be running mid-high 12s if he's turned up the boost.

The comment about him supercharging...are you sure it is an RT/TT, and not simply an RT...222hp 3.0L 4valve DOHC 6 cylinder?

i have no idea what the car is, i only assumed it was a rt tt, if he thinks he can hang with me. But he is one of those people that make up so much bullshit everyone in the room can smell it

who would supercharge a stealth anyway

i dont know that much about rice burners, i am a muscle car person so until i looked it up on the internet i didnt even really know waht a dodge stealth was,

I've never heard of anyone supercharging a RT/TT, and supercharging regular RT's bases and their GT brothers seems to be relatively common.
and T/A's are faster than their camaro brothers, pretty much every test I've seen has said the same thing, and for only one reason. The T/A is easier to launch.
I've never driven either so I'll trust the reviewers oppinions.

i dont know that much about rice burners, i am a muscle car person so until i looked it up on the internet i didnt even really know waht a dodge stealth was,

haha, he called a dodge stealth a rice burner. Do you even know the definition? What makes him a rice burner?

I guess he thinks anything that doesn't have 8 cyl and guzzles down gas is a rice burner. Maybe he's jealous of the T/C 4 cyls that are just as fast as him, yet get better gas mileage. :rolleyes:

I guess he thinks anything that doesn't have 8 cyl and guzzles down gas is a rice burner. Maybe he's jealous of the T/C 4 cyls that are just as fast as him, yet get better gas mileage. :rolleyes:

obviously you missed the post where he said that the kid makes up so much bullshit you can smell it. THAT alone makes him a ricer. LOL it's so funny as soon as someone mention's "rice" all the little import guys come to the rescue. you guys make me laugh, what else ya got? :iceslolan

ps. no offense to ALL the import guys most of ya are cool people like this are a different story.

'little'? lol

What makes you sure were all 'little'?

obviously you missed the post where he said that the kid makes up so much bullshit you can smell it. THAT alone makes him a ricer. LOL it's so funny as soon as someone mention's "rice" all the little import guys come to the rescue. you guys make me laugh, what else ya got? :iceslolan

ps. no offense to ALL the import guys most of ya are cool people like this are a different story.

Oh no, another kiddo.

I think obviously your little butt buddy doesn't know what he's talking about. First he says he has an RT/TT, then he says he doesn't know what he has. To top if all of, he says "TA actually weighs more than a camaro becaeuse it has more body effects" when in reality the Camaro weighs more. It seems to me your little friend is the one making up bull****.

And in case you haven't noticed, a dodge is NOT an "IMPORT" It's as american as a Camaro, so I have no reason at all protecting either car or getting offended. It just seems like that this "tough guy with american muscle" likes to throw around the "ricer" word when he doesn't even know anything about cars. And he's referring to a Dodge as a ricer, why would any of us be offended in first place. I bet he doesn't have any mods on his "american muscle" and claims to have 340 rwhp. I mean, having all that "muscle" makes him feel like such a man compared to the dodge, which isn't american at all.

'little'? lol

What makes you sure were all 'little'?


He probably looked down his pants and it reminded him of "little" He's an "american muscle" guy too. Only real men drive american musclecars. Whoever drives an import is little.

Well, if it's AWD, it's an RT, with a TT V6.
Why would I know this? Racing buddy of mine has one. (It's pretty........)

(It's pretty........)

Something you can't say about the Z28. It's hard to tell it apart from the chrysler concorde from the front.

Also, someone should tell this kid that a stock Z28 really isn't one of the fastest things on the planet. Talking about "melting tires in third gear" A chirp isn't "melting tires"

Also, a true car fan, domestics or imports, knows what a dodge stealth is. What a lamo. :banghead:

i think you should be careful with that Stealth. TT and AWD is nothing to play around with, plus the stealth is a little lighter than a VR4.

I'm proud to say I'm little. Not ashamed one bit. Only a real ricer can admit to that, but it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it that counts...I'm lost, what was the real subject again? Anyway, just wanted to throw in my two cents. I'm out...Late...

I seriously hope his "muscle" version of the chrysler concorde loses to the stealth now.

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just make sure when u launch in the camaro u feather the clutch and not bogg the start lol! Camaros are beast! Like someone said, they burn rubber all the way into 3rd gear, but other than that u should easily walk the stealth. Even if u do bogg the start u will still walk it!

'little'? lol

What makes you sure were all 'little'?

i'm not sure, but i know you all flock as soon as "rice" is mentioned. Like i said.... too funny. :iceslolan

I seriously hope his "muscle" version of the chrysler concorde loses to the stealth now.

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lol, i love it when i can influence someone over the internet.

lol, i love it when i can influence someone over the internet.


Even though we're both anti rice, you must admit how much they resemble each other.

Oh no, another kiddo.

I think obviously your little butt buddy doesn't know what he's talking about. First he says he has an RT/TT, then he says he doesn't know what he has. To top if all of, he says "TA actually weighs more than a camaro becaeuse it has more body effects" when in reality the Camaro weighs more. It seems to me your little friend is the one making up bull****.

And in case you haven't noticed, a dodge is NOT an "IMPORT" It's as american as a Camaro, so I have no reason at all protecting either car or getting offended. It just seems like that this "tough guy with american muscle" likes to throw around the "ricer" word when he doesn't even know anything about cars. And he's referring to a Dodge as a ricer, why would any of us be offended in first place. I bet he doesn't have any mods on his "american muscle" and claims to have 340 rwhp. I mean, having all that "muscle" makes him feel like such a man compared to the dodge, which isn't american at all.

Anything else you'd like to say? :rofl:

Even though we're both anti rice, you must admit how much they resemble each other.

yes they do, however the SS is a very respectable car. I'll admit also that they have much more power than any pushrod Mustang off the factory floor.

Anything else you'd like to say? :rofl:

I won this debate, it's time for bed. Afterall, I do own an Acura and even though my stock V6 makes as much hp as a V8 mustang GT, I have to admit that I'm little because I'm missing american muscle.

Check PM's, i'm done with the debate. U win i forfeit i'm not afraid to admit a loss. Even though i don't really think it was a loss or a win for either.

And in case you haven't noticed, a dodge is NOT an "IMPORT" It's as american as a Camaro, so I have no reason at all protecting either car or getting offended.

Well that is fine and good, but the Stealth is not a Dodge. Sorry, the Stealth is a Mitsubishi. It was designed by Chrysler but it was built by Mitsubishi. The Stealth is not an American car. It was a Japanese car sold by an American company. Granted Chrysler owned the majority of voting stock in Mitsubishi at the time, still that doesn't change the facts.

My input is that you should watch yourself. I have a buddy that owned a TT/RT with upgraded turbos, bigger fuel pump, and a boost controller. Never installed bigger injectors or bothered to have the thing tuned. He would have had a lot more power if he had. Anyhow, one night he let me drive it while cruising Main Street while I was visiting him in Colorado. Towards the end of the night we came across an SS. The first two runs I didn't launch and we quickly passed him by, and we still were pulling hard from him in third. The third and final run we launched and killed him, and not by a short margin either. It was by a good five car lengths. After that he didn't want to play anymore.

These cars are no joke. I would have loved to see how much farther we would have left him had the car had bigger injectors and been tuned properly.

seriously bro how old are you? why are you acting like this? Import Vs Muscle crap. Thats Bs man, cars are no gang and such. People are starting to compare them as one. Whats next, tinted windows vs not tinted windows...

type-s, check what polygon said to you=owned

the creator of this thread, this whole thread is pointless unless you know, what model he has, and we know your mods. if your stock with just intake and its a tt, it will be a very good race. 3rd gear in both cars are monsters.

very interesting race it would be, but fill in the blank spaces first before anyone can speak.

and shut up with all this import vs domestic crap

Just Race them, I say it'll be close if it is actually a TT stock v.s. stock. If he did basic mods you'd be best to take his car for granted (even though he sounds like a ricer douche) because he'll be burning twice as much gas and two atmospheres worth of air more than his 3.0L displacement would sugest.

Why does everybody think the 3S can’t hold its own after it starts rollin. Ever race one from a 3rd gear roll?

Because it's AWD, AWD sucks after launch
/sarcasm.

God there were so many wrong statements in this thread I'm not even going to point them out.
Although Allthrottleno bottle seems more the Ricer than some other ricers. remember kids, it's the attitude not the car.

Who ever said that AWD sucked after the launch? I don't see anyone ever saying it. However, I did say that RWD > AWD from a roll, not that AWD sucks.

But seeing how this thread starter is acting, I don't think he really knows how to drive. If he knew how to drive, he'd know how to control his launch better. It seems like he just floors it hard until the wheels stop spinning and says "the camaro melts rubber"

To everyone else, yes the stealth was built by mitsubishi, and you can call it japanese, but it's still a dodge stealth. I don't really care as this was a rather stupid mitsubishi vs. dodge argument. If I had to pick, it'd pick the stealth over a VR4. But either way, we all know that the reason that people buy mitsubishis is because of reliability. :lol2:

To everyone else, yes the stealth was built by mitsubishi, and you can call it japanese, but it's still a dodge stealth. I don't really care as this was a rather stupid mitsubishi vs. dodge argument. If I had to pick, it'd pick the stealth over a VR4. But either way, we all know that the reason that people buy mitsubishis is because of reliability. :lol2:

I don't see your point. They are the exact same car with some slight cosmetic differences. They rolled off the same assembly line. Anyhow, my Sebring is actually a Mitsubishi under the skin and it has been a very reliable car.

with some slight cosmetic differences

Thank you for supporting my statement.

And as far as reliability, even the "free scheduled maintenance" campaign won't get mitsubishi back on their feet. go to www.google.com and search for mitsubishi consumer complaints and it'll find you enough pages to keep you away. One person's oppinion doesn't mean a lot when there are all those people with complaints out there. Why do you think their sales dropped so much?

Thank you for supporting my statement.

And as far as reliability, even the "free scheduled maintenance" campaign won't get mitsubishi back on their feet. go to www.google.com and search for mitsubishi consumer complaints and it'll find you enough pages to keep you away. One person's oppinion doesn't mean a lot when there are all those people with complaints out there. Why do you think their sales dropped so much?

Well, their sales have been dropping for years. Chrysler tried to help them but Mitsubishi refused to do what Chrysler told them to do so Chrysler sold all of their voting stock. That is why I would stay away from them right now. Unless they find another large company to buy up that stock I don't think they will survive.

So your point was that you like the looks of the Stealth better? On that account I agree with you.

So your point was that you like the looks of the Stealth better? On that account I agree with you.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say. I thought they were pretty much the same car except for the looks. I think I said that early in the post.

All I have to say about this thread is : WOW......
Turned from a nice quiet "I'm racing this guy" thread into an Import vs. Domestic thread. I drive Imports, and I'm 6'2" 260 lbs...but I also drive American Muscle.

What is such the big deal between the two? With American Muscle, you can buy a 11-12 second car for a lot of money. With Imports, you can buy them, then upgrade them to the same amount of money it took for the American Muscle, and tada! You have an 11-12 second car.

American Muscle looks great, sounds mean, is fast, and a lot of people like them.
Imports look great, sound mean, are fast, and a lot of people like them....

Why does it always get into a heated battle with you all?

I have no problem with domestics or imports, it just seems like the guy who started this thread likes to throw words around that he doesn't know anything about. He would call a 500 whp bmw a ricer just because it's not american. I don't get his point.

Gotcha :iceslolan

ok there is so much bullshit in this thread i dont know where to start, lets see, First of all my z28 has many mods I will post a pick when i get a chance(im at school right now),intake, throttle body, borla exhauast, complete suspension(sway bars, strut bars, shocks,)Brakes rotors and calipers,wheels,Hp III power programmer,complete valve train, and i will be getting headers next week. I could easily say i have 360rwhp but unlike some of you ricers i dont like to triple the horsepower numbers that after market acessories add. Some of you people out there slap a intake and farter pipe on a honda civic where it sounds like your revving up a hairdryer, and drive around flooring it everywhere you go pretending your car is fast. Not saying all of you but thats 80% of the ricers out there whenever i pull up next to them at a light and start revving it they dont even have the balls to look over knowing they aint got shit except a car that sounds like a weedeater. Another thing i know how to drive pretty dam well, i have taken out many cars with more hp than mine simply on being able to launch better and shift. i believe i commented that "people who dont know how to drive ls1's will just sit there and melt the tires into third" not saying i do, and for people who have ls1's and know what im talking about know that if they floor it the tires wont stop spinning until halfway through third. Secondly i admit i dont know shit about ricers about the only thing i know about them is that they like to pretend their fast until a car try's to race them. (Ahem point out Mr. Stealth didnt show up last night!)But i know more about muscle cars than most of you know about ricers so bite me. And i dont know my stuff form sitting around looking it up on the internet all day i know it from actual experience building cars and racing them.

"T/A's are faster than their camaro brothers, pretty much every test I've seen has said the same thing, and for only one reason. The T/A is easier to launch."

True go to popular mechanics.com

Anyway gas mileage, my z28 gets 19city and 27 highway which is better than alot of turbos cars out there, secondly who thinks they can offend me by calling me gay and little, thats just stupid and doesnt belong on a car forum, looks like someone has a little self assurance issues whoever said it.

one last thing at the begging of the thread i admitted i didnt even know what i dodge stealth wasz until i looked it up, i looked it up and the only dodge stealth in the same league was the rt tt, so i assumed thats what he had

I do think (if you actually do have a 340whp z28) you would walk this guy's stealth pretty bad. I bet he doesn't even have a twin turbo stealth it's probably just a N/A fwd stealth. You shit talkin about "ricers" needs to stop because their ARE stealths, and other "ricers" that'll whoop your cars ass. BTW if you plan on joining this forum by shit talkin with a few measly posts you need to check yourself, and calm down. For all I know you don't even own a Z28.

lets see here, i started this thread saying that some dumass in a dodge stealth doesnt want to race bc he thinks he will beat me so bad, i was talking about one dumass and every dam, dare i say ricer, on this forum jumps all over me

i know there are stealths and ricers that will beat my car, i just havent seen one yet in 3 years, you people need to realize that i live in texas and people arent as gay here as in other states they actually have good taste in cars so not many people have 7 different primer colored ricers with 500whp

how bout this? i don't care what car it is...as long as it snaps your neck when the gas petal is slammed....haha....