b16 or b18?
kmdfw247
10-09-2004, 08:26 PM
I just bought a 91 HF completly stock. My plan is for it to be a reliable fast (not the fastest) good looking (not show quality) daily driver that is able to pass emissions. The first mod will be the engine. No reason to dress her up if she won't put out. ;) But to finally get to my question, Can anyone tell me how B16 and B18 would compare for my swap needs.
Easiest to swap?
Cheapest?
Reliable?
HP?
Torque?
Are they both V-Tec?
Repairs?
Myself or Mechanic?
Best link for step by step swap instructions? I've found a couple already.
I also would like to only do this swap once any sugestions from expierenced swappers will be greatly apreciated.
Thanx KM
Easiest to swap?
Cheapest?
Reliable?
HP?
Torque?
Are they both V-Tec?
Repairs?
Myself or Mechanic?
Best link for step by step swap instructions? I've found a couple already.
I also would like to only do this swap once any sugestions from expierenced swappers will be greatly apreciated.
Thanx KM
TheSilentChamber
10-09-2004, 08:34 PM
heh you said V-Tec, you might want to find that rock to crawl under now.
Cheepest- B18 usually
Reliable- all honda motors are reliable
Hp/torque depends on the the motor generation
vtec - both can be
as for repairs.. we dont know what your capable of so thats a hard question to answer.
Cheepest- B18 usually
Reliable- all honda motors are reliable
Hp/torque depends on the the motor generation
vtec - both can be
as for repairs.. we dont know what your capable of so thats a hard question to answer.
CivicSpoon
10-09-2004, 08:49 PM
what do you mean by b18? b18a, b18b, b18c, b18c5? All are different motors with different hp and tq, and half are vtec motors and half aren't.
kmdfw247
10-09-2004, 08:52 PM
Hey quit makn fun of the new kid (aka me). I said I just bought the thing "she's my ferst Hawnda"
B18 really? I thought "they said" the B16 was an easier swap. I checked out the "what engine?" thread they mention a suspension mod with a b18 swap. What are they talkin about?
B18 really? I thought "they said" the B16 was an easier swap. I checked out the "what engine?" thread they mention a suspension mod with a b18 swap. What are they talkin about?
kmdfw247
10-09-2004, 08:54 PM
Hey you tell me what are the Difs between A B C's etc?
gsr916
10-09-2004, 09:19 PM
since ur going to want vtec only pick from B16a, B18C or B18c5 :) (civic si, integra GSR, integra Type-R, respectively). B18b is integra LS motor but its still dohc just not vtec
kmdfw247
10-09-2004, 09:22 PM
Hey you tell me what are the Difs between A B C's etc?
Which ones will fit in my 91' HF
Which ones will fit in my 91' HF
TheSilentChamber
10-09-2004, 09:23 PM
if you want a nice setup with the torque of a b18 and vtec without the b18 vtec price you can put a vtec b16 head on a b18. This is refered to as an LS/VTEC
gsr916
10-09-2004, 09:25 PM
or a frankie! u seen those stickers that say "got frankinside?" ha
TheSilentChamber
10-09-2004, 09:25 PM
this may be helpful also:
EW4 1.4L & 1.5L SOHC PGM-Fi '84-'87 Civic 60-92hp
D15B 1.5L SOHC non-VTEC '88-'95 Civic's 62-102hp
D16A1 1.6 L DOHC 86-89 Integra 86/87 113hp 88/89 118hp
D16A6 1.6L SOHC 88-91 Civic Si/ CRX Si 108hp
ZC JDM equivalent of D16A1 130ps
D16Z6 1.6L SOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic EX/Si 125hp
D16Y5 1.6L SOHC VTEC-E 96-00 Civic HX 115hp
D16Y7 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC 96+ Civic CX/DX/LX 106hp
D16Y8 1.6L SOHC VTEC 96+ Civic EX 127hp
B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi 160ps
B16A2/3 1.6L USDM DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si 160hp
B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR 170ps
B16B 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 98+ Civic Type R 185ps
D17A2 1.7L SOHC VTEC-E 01 Civic EX 127hp
D17A1 1.7L SOHC non-VTEC '01+ Civic DX/LX 115hp
B17A1 1.7L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-93 Integra GS-R 160hp
B18A1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS 90-91: 130hp / 92-93: 140hp
B18B1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS 140hp
B18C 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra SiR-G 180ps
B18C1 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra GS-R 170hp
B18C5 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 97+ Integra Type R 195hp
B18C6/7 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R 200ps
B20A5 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 87-91 Prelude 2.0Si 135hp
B20B 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 96-98 CR-V 126hp
B20Z 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 99-01 CR-V 143hp
B21A1 2.1L DOHC non-VTEC 90-91 Prelude Si 145hp
K20A3 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC '02+ RSX
'02+ Civic Si 160hp
K20A2 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC 02+ RSX Type S
02+ Civic TypeR 200hp
K20A 2.0L JDM DOHC i-VTEC '02+ Integra Type R 220ps
F20A1 2.0L JDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Accord Si 155hp
F20B 2.0L JDM DOHC VTEC 90-93 Accord Si-R 190ps
F20C1 2.0L DOHC VTEC '00+ S2000 250ps/240hp
F22A1 2.2L USDM non-VTEC 92-96 Prelude S 90-93 Accord LX/EX
130hp-135hp
F22B 2.2L USDM SOHC VTEC 94-97 Accord EX/97 2.2CL 145hp
F23A5 2.3L USDM SOHC 98+ Accord DX 135hp
F23A1 2.3L USDM SOHC VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX/98-99 2.3CL
150hp
F23A4 2.3L USDM SOHC ULEV VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX 148hp
H22A1 2.2L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-96 Prelude VTEC 190hp
H22A4 2.2L DOHC VTEC 97-01 Prelude VTEC/SH 97-98: 195hp 99-01: 200hp
H22A 2.2L JDM DOHC VTEC 92+ Prelude Type-S, 97+ Prelude SiRS Spec 220ps
H23A1 2.3L USDM DOHC non-VTEC Prelude Si 160hp
G25A1 2.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC 96-98 2.5TL 176hp
J25A 2.5L JDM SOHC VTEC V6 JDM Honda Aspire/Sabre 200ps
C27?? 2.7L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 86-89 Legend 150-160hp
C27?? 2.7L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 95-97 Accord V6 170HP
C30A(?) 3.0L DOHC VTEC V6 91-96 NSX/NSX-T 270hp
J30A1 3.0L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98-02 Accord V6/97-99 3.2CL 200hp
C32A6 3.2L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 91-95 Legend Sdn, 91-92 Legend Cpe 96-98 3.2TL 200hp
C32A5 3.2L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 94-95 Legend GS Sdn, 93-95 Legend Cpe 230hp
C32A? 3.2L DOHC VTEC- V6 97+ NSX/NSX-T 290hp
J32A1 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ 3.2TL/3.2CL 225hp
J32A2 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 00+ 3.2CL Type-S, 01 3.2TL Type-S 260hp
C35A2 3.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 3.5RL 215-225hp
J35A1 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ Odyessy 210hp
J35A3 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 Acura MDX 240hp
EW4 1.4L & 1.5L SOHC PGM-Fi '84-'87 Civic 60-92hp
D15B 1.5L SOHC non-VTEC '88-'95 Civic's 62-102hp
D16A1 1.6 L DOHC 86-89 Integra 86/87 113hp 88/89 118hp
D16A6 1.6L SOHC 88-91 Civic Si/ CRX Si 108hp
ZC JDM equivalent of D16A1 130ps
D16Z6 1.6L SOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic EX/Si 125hp
D16Y5 1.6L SOHC VTEC-E 96-00 Civic HX 115hp
D16Y7 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC 96+ Civic CX/DX/LX 106hp
D16Y8 1.6L SOHC VTEC 96+ Civic EX 127hp
B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 89-91 Civic Si-R I/CRX Si-R, Integra RSi/XSi 160ps
B16A2/3 1.6L USDM DOHC VTEC 93-97 DelSol VTEC/99-00 Civic Si 160hp
B16A 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 92-95 Civic Si-R II/ 92-97 CRX DelSol SiR 170ps
B16B 1.6L JDM DOHC VTEC 98+ Civic Type R 185ps
D17A2 1.7L SOHC VTEC-E 01 Civic EX 127hp
D17A1 1.7L SOHC non-VTEC '01+ Civic DX/LX 115hp
B17A1 1.7L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-93 Integra GS-R 160hp
B18A1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Integra RS/LS/GS 90-91: 130hp / 92-93: 140hp
B18B1 1.8L USDM DOHC non-VTEC 94-01 Integra RS/LS/GS 140hp
B18C 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra SiR-G 180ps
B18C1 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 94+ Integra GS-R 170hp
B18C5 1.8L USDM DOHC VTEC 97+ Integra Type R 195hp
B18C6/7 1.8L JDM DOHC VTEC 96+ Integra Type R 200ps
B20A5 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 87-91 Prelude 2.0Si 135hp
B20B 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 96-98 CR-V 126hp
B20Z 2.0L DOHC non-VTEC 99-01 CR-V 143hp
B21A1 2.1L DOHC non-VTEC 90-91 Prelude Si 145hp
K20A3 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC '02+ RSX
'02+ Civic Si 160hp
K20A2 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC 02+ RSX Type S
02+ Civic TypeR 200hp
K20A 2.0L JDM DOHC i-VTEC '02+ Integra Type R 220ps
F20A1 2.0L JDM DOHC non-VTEC 90-93 Accord Si 155hp
F20B 2.0L JDM DOHC VTEC 90-93 Accord Si-R 190ps
F20C1 2.0L DOHC VTEC '00+ S2000 250ps/240hp
F22A1 2.2L USDM non-VTEC 92-96 Prelude S 90-93 Accord LX/EX
130hp-135hp
F22B 2.2L USDM SOHC VTEC 94-97 Accord EX/97 2.2CL 145hp
F23A5 2.3L USDM SOHC 98+ Accord DX 135hp
F23A1 2.3L USDM SOHC VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX/98-99 2.3CL
150hp
F23A4 2.3L USDM SOHC ULEV VTEC 98+ Accord EX & LX 148hp
H22A1 2.2L USDM DOHC VTEC 92-96 Prelude VTEC 190hp
H22A4 2.2L DOHC VTEC 97-01 Prelude VTEC/SH 97-98: 195hp 99-01: 200hp
H22A 2.2L JDM DOHC VTEC 92+ Prelude Type-S, 97+ Prelude SiRS Spec 220ps
H23A1 2.3L USDM DOHC non-VTEC Prelude Si 160hp
G25A1 2.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC 96-98 2.5TL 176hp
J25A 2.5L JDM SOHC VTEC V6 JDM Honda Aspire/Sabre 200ps
C27?? 2.7L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 86-89 Legend 150-160hp
C27?? 2.7L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 95-97 Accord V6 170HP
C30A(?) 3.0L DOHC VTEC V6 91-96 NSX/NSX-T 270hp
J30A1 3.0L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98-02 Accord V6/97-99 3.2CL 200hp
C32A6 3.2L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 91-95 Legend Sdn, 91-92 Legend Cpe 96-98 3.2TL 200hp
C32A5 3.2L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 94-95 Legend GS Sdn, 93-95 Legend Cpe 230hp
C32A? 3.2L DOHC VTEC- V6 97+ NSX/NSX-T 290hp
J32A1 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ 3.2TL/3.2CL 225hp
J32A2 3.2L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 00+ 3.2CL Type-S, 01 3.2TL Type-S 260hp
C35A2 3.5L USDM SOHC non-VTEC V6 3.5RL 215-225hp
J35A1 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 98+ Odyessy 210hp
J35A3 3.5L USDM SOHC VTEC V6 Acura MDX 240hp
kmdfw247
10-09-2004, 09:26 PM
Thanx these all sound like great ideas. Ive got alot to think about.
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