I can't keep this secret anymore....

My motor I am building.

I started with a B17 Block, got it Bored 10 over and cleaned up. (done)
Picked up a B16 crank and got it micropolished (done)
All new King bearing. (bought and installed)
10 over CTR pistons modified to Fit my Eagle H-Beam Rods (ready to put in)
ARP Bolt all around (bought)
b17 Oil Pump (installed)
b16 water pump
KMS Blockguard (installed)
Full Rev Valvetrain (Vales, Springs Retainors) (not installed yet)
Skunk2 stage 2 Cams (obx) (ordered)
KMS bronze Valveguides
the head will get Port and polished, 3deg Valve job
ACT streetlight Flywheel
1.9lbs billet underdrive Crank Pulley (installed)
Excedy stage 2 clutch
Hybrid S1/A1 Transmission with OBX LSD (Same as Quaife) (got parts not installed yet)
AEBS Intake manifold
H22 Throttle Body
B&M FPR
OBX Fuel Rail

... that's about it...

I'm about half way done now ... I think this thing will be a monster :evillol:

Decent set up! I'd say you'd hit high to mid 13s with that set up :)

gta's at my house. i have strict instructions to lock this thread before something goes wrong:evillol:

:cheers:

very nice plan! should be a very fast car

Horay!

All motor B series with fresh bearings would be fun fun fun.

Congrats.

hey siz next year i'll be in barrie so you might be able to see the built b-series goodness

thats a very nice setup you got there,how much would you say you've put into it?

I just noticed that OBX lsd. Its the same as Quife? Not to be mean or anything but aren't they cheap products?

Quaife does not make their own LSD they contract that out, and the Exclusivity contract expired, the OBX lsd is the EXACT same (made by the same people) just 1/3 of the price. there is a guy in honda-tech running one with 500+ whp and he blew up 3rd gear and there was no damage to the LSD... that sold me!

from 99hybrid_hatch

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=925949&page=5

well somewhat of a update...
I was playing around last night on the street and had bad luck!!! I blew the teeth off of 3rd gear!!! (always seems me and 3rd dont get along!) well anyways..we pulled the tranny to find that 3rd was in like 5 pieces but the diff was unhurt!!!! so we dropped another 3rd gear in along with syncro and what I call the collar/slider and its back in action..I will swear by these OBX diffs now!!! if I can blow 3rd gear out of the tranny and the diff was unhurt..its good enough in my book!

will have pics if 3rd gear soon (whats left anyways..LMAO)


FYI..

track day for me is this friday..then we will see if it will take 600 whp (536 on turbo plus a 60 shot wet of nitrous) if it does Iam becoming a dealer for these things!!

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http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=925949&page=6

ok ok ok..its results time!!!!
I made 2 pass's tonight and both of which where on 28+psi of boost with the 50 shot from the nitrous flowing..I launched at 7K rpm off the 2 step and it took it like a man!! car went dead straight and hooked so good I was bogging at 7000 rpm!!!

off the 2step I was seeing 18 psi out of the hole and the nitrous would kick it at 43 mph (hondata set which is high 1st gear with a 9800 rpm rev limiter) so if any of you want to run one..I would not hestiate!! I love mine and it has been thru more punishment than I thought it could take..but it took it and we still drove home!!!!

BTW best run of the night was a 11.43 @ 144 mph!!!!! just need to learn to drive it with the NAWZ flowing..LOL

Damn! How much is it exactly?

335$ plus 25$ for shipping in the US.

Damn from 1000 drops all the way down to 335? Hmm doesn't sound bad at all...

yeah... everybody is loving them that why i bought one before they dissapear or get the price jacked way up... the guy i bought mine from can't keep em in stock.

If only i had a honda! :(

What are you doing up in Barrie next year?

Automotive admin and marketing at Georgian

Thats sweet. Let me know when you're in Ontario for sure... I'm not real far away, but quite a drive. We'll meet up though, maybe get 1phatCX to take a drive too.

We could all go to a racetrack and he with his ZC, you with your motor and me with whatever setup I have by then. :)

yeah for sure !

yea definately!

got a ride in my friends B16 hatch lastnight with I/H/E and HOLY FUUUUUCK i'm kinda likin this vtec thing :) hehe dunno how long the ZC will stay in :) heheh :evillol: but definately, all 3 of us will hafta chill sometime :D

does OBX make lsd's for d series trannys? Just curious.

One question does the H22 TB match the B16 IM
cause I've seen that you're having that TB !?

CYA

nice setup mate, cant wait to see some times!!! good luck with it mate!!

yes OBX does make a D-Series LSD, it fits all 88-00 Dseries tranny except the 90-91 si with the 40mm bearings.

yeah the H22 TB will bolt up, the only diff is that it's a 62mm, some manifold need some porting to accept it.

kun did you put the LSD in yourself? and i was wondering if they have one for an Automatic. you got a lot more done to your b16 than me, but i should still be making around 185hp in mine, so what the hell right.

i have not received the LSD yet but I will be installing with the help of a few friends...

they never specified a auto specific Diff... I think they are the same but not 100% sure.

the motor is not done yet but I have most of the parts or ordered.

Kun

Cool thanx for info.
I'll try to find one till
I made my own ITBs

CYA

Cool thanx for info.
I'll try to find one till
I made my own ITBs

CYA

no teasing, lets see pics! :)

no teasing, lets see pics! :)
I think Emil meant he's in the process of making them... but you can check out ITBs here (http://homemadeturbo.com/tech_projects/itb/index.html)

Cool thanx for info.
I'll try to find one till
I made my own ITBs

CYA


Take the b16a TB to a machine shop and have them bore it out to ITR specs (64mm). Should cost like 50 bucks.

I know that one, but in here they are litlle crazy and want lots of money for doing that not just 50$ it's arround 150$ and I don't want to pay that much !
As fars as the ITBs goes I'll try to make one in near future I already have one more IM from B seria and one guy in here will sold me ZX12R ITBs and then we'll tryto modd that together...

CYA

Take the b16a TB to a machine shop and have them bore it out to ITR specs (64mm). Should cost like 50 bucks.

Dude - Emil lives is in like Slovenia...he doesn't just walk down to the nearest tuning shop and say "here port this bitch I found at the junk yard..." - :lol2: - I dunno how he manages to source the parts he does.

Emil...you are a rare bird...keep up the good work and pics whenever! :thumbsup:

So..another question..Kunundrum..since you said that the OBX LSd's fit all D-series except the 90-91..does that make them different than the '89? I know the 88's have some differences when searchign for clutch's, etc...but I thought the 89-91 trannies were all the same. I think that the Si tranny I have for my ZC is an '89 tho..muahahahahaha :iceslolan

He can still send it out but then yeh it'll cost a lil more...sucks.

Lets say if you pay 100$ for part with free shiping in States I pay for that exact part 100$ + shiping to SI(Slovenia) 50$ and then they charge me in my country duty on parts...and that is 100$ + 50$ + (20% or 30% of the cost of part and shiping ) and I'm on about 200$ or more... pretty shitty thing not living in States :0(
But I have my own tricks how to get parts and not paying so much to the country I live (duty part)

About porting I asked some folk but no one has time to put it on his CNC machine and do that for me cause it takes lots of time preprograming it...
So I'll try to find one H22 TB until my ITB project starts...

CYA

the 90-91 L3 have a 40mm bearing and I guess it does not work with the obx LSD.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6755&item=2489737072&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

So I'll try to find one H22 TB until my ITB project starts...

CYA

ITB?? Wow u must be go'n all out hUh? Anyways find yourself a type r throttle body. Maybe you can find it cheap over there? I'm just curious about you go'n ITB...what mods have you done to your motor?

ITR parts are here so hard to find and so damn expencive so ITR is out of the option I rather buy aftermarket 70mm then...

My current set up:

B16A2 engine 93'
- ITR cams
- ITR camgears
- ITR valves (bouth intake and exhaust are the same weight, custom job)
- ITR valve springs
- ITR oil pan
- ITR 4-2-1 orig. header
- CPS forged NA pistons
- race clutch
- B16A2 hydro tranny
- head job done (port, polish, lowered...)
- crank shaft + flyweel lighten and balanced
- polished valve cover
- polished IM + little job done on the inside
- APEXi airfilter
- HASport engine mounts
- HASport shift linkage
- custom made exhaust

Till now 193BHP@7300rpm
I'm not gettin' enough air with stock TB that is
why my A/F map is messed up :0(

Since your go'n all motor...why dont you swap out the b16 block and get a gsr or type r? It'll make a huge difference trust me. Thats what i did and i was very happy with the results.

We don't have GSR motors in here :0(
The only teg we have here is B18C5 ITR
maybe I'll get block,crankshaft, rods and pistons
from my friend whos ITR recentlly died
(crankshaft problem, rod bearing related)

Yeh man grab it! You can swap all the parts out of your b16 into the block and your set :)