need help with install ?'s
r1anz
09-06-2004, 11:21 PM
I am going to install a system in my chevy colorado. So far i have a Kenwood Excelon 815 Dvd/TV indash head unit Sat. tuner and a Kenwood Excelon KAC-X810D 1ch amp 1000 watt rms @ 1 Ohm load if i put 3 4 ohm speaks in parrellel would that bring to 1 ohm?
Also what speaks would you rec. I want to go with 3 12's Or 3 15's
any help would be appre.
Also what speaks would you rec. I want to go with 3 12's Or 3 15's
any help would be appre.
TFFantasy44
09-07-2004, 12:32 AM
With 3 SVC subs you could get a 1.33 ohm load, which would be about 830 watts, or in kenwood language, about 500. Why going with 3 subs anyway?
r1anz
09-07-2004, 12:35 AM
The design of my box. What do you mean by 500 kenwood lang. My box is going in the bed of my colorado I'm cutting a hole thrue the bed and cab and pustting a rubber boot in between.
TFFantasy44
09-07-2004, 12:38 AM
Kenwood tends to overrate their um... ratings.
r1anz
09-07-2004, 12:40 AM
should i go with a diff. amp if so what would you rec.
loismustdie
09-07-2004, 11:48 AM
should i go with a diff. amp if so what would you rec.
if you already bought the amp, it will work fine, since this is powering subs its not that big of a deal, when it comes to class D watts are watts IMO, i bet that amp puts out somewhere near rated power, and with 3 subs, it will get very loud, so i wouldn't worry about buying another amp.......
i'd say go with 3 12's, when it comes to 3 subs, you will get great lowend, and great sq, and the 12's will probly be less expensive....
if you already bought the amp, it will work fine, since this is powering subs its not that big of a deal, when it comes to class D watts are watts IMO, i bet that amp puts out somewhere near rated power, and with 3 subs, it will get very loud, so i wouldn't worry about buying another amp.......
i'd say go with 3 12's, when it comes to 3 subs, you will get great lowend, and great sq, and the 12's will probly be less expensive....
pac4eva5
09-07-2004, 05:16 PM
definetely 12's. what kind will they be?
r1anz
09-07-2004, 10:17 PM
I'm not sure i was hopeing someone could help me figure that out.
I was thinking kicker or some Rockfordfosgates. what would you guys suggest?
I was thinking kicker or some Rockfordfosgates. what would you guys suggest?
loismustdie
09-08-2004, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure i was hopeing someone could help me figure that out.
I was thinking kicker or some Rockfordfosgates. what would you guys suggest?
price range?
I was thinking kicker or some Rockfordfosgates. what would you guys suggest?
price range?
r1anz
09-09-2004, 07:41 PM
Around $400 Give or Take
CBFryman
09-10-2004, 12:33 PM
Around $400 Give or Take
for all three? well your not going to get 3 great woofers for 400... DDaudio's DD1012 would be great for that price...129.00 each...since your amp is rated down to 1ohm stable (even though i doubt it is) 4 DD1010's would sound a lil louder and maybe even a lil crisper....you'd get a lil more power via the lower impeadence...and you would only be sacrificing 20in^2....i dunno maybe a 1dB increase an just a tad more precice bass....its really up to you....i personally would go with the 3 12's but im just throwing another option out there...also JL W0 12's arent too expinsive but they also couldnt handle the power...the DD's are 300RMS and music and 1200peak so over powering isnt an issure...with that amp about the only thing you could do to theos three woofers is clip it so bad you have an almost square wave and even then it would take a while before the voice coild would burn because in my experence thoes DD's would probably handle 400RMS and 700-900 music...
for all three? well your not going to get 3 great woofers for 400... DDaudio's DD1012 would be great for that price...129.00 each...since your amp is rated down to 1ohm stable (even though i doubt it is) 4 DD1010's would sound a lil louder and maybe even a lil crisper....you'd get a lil more power via the lower impeadence...and you would only be sacrificing 20in^2....i dunno maybe a 1dB increase an just a tad more precice bass....its really up to you....i personally would go with the 3 12's but im just throwing another option out there...also JL W0 12's arent too expinsive but they also couldnt handle the power...the DD's are 300RMS and music and 1200peak so over powering isnt an issure...with that amp about the only thing you could do to theos three woofers is clip it so bad you have an almost square wave and even then it would take a while before the voice coild would burn because in my experence thoes DD's would probably handle 400RMS and 700-900 music...
r1anz
09-10-2004, 09:29 PM
Thats 400 Give or take 100 each for the speaks. 400 for three is like buying jensen lol!!!
loismustdie
09-10-2004, 10:58 PM
Thats 400 Give or take 100 each for the speaks. 400 for three is like buying jensen lol!!!
damn!!!! well looks like you're lookin to drop some big bucks on this.....so how about 3 IDMAX's, or 3 OZ audio matrix elite's, these subs are pretty similar with the advantage going to the idmax's, but you're gonna pay more for the idmax's, it will still be way under your budget, you can get them new for under 300 i think.......or if you went with the oz audio me's it would be slightly cheaper
both would be great choices
you would be suprised with the quality you can get with that amount of money, way better than jensen.....
damn!!!! well looks like you're lookin to drop some big bucks on this.....so how about 3 IDMAX's, or 3 OZ audio matrix elite's, these subs are pretty similar with the advantage going to the idmax's, but you're gonna pay more for the idmax's, it will still be way under your budget, you can get them new for under 300 i think.......or if you went with the oz audio me's it would be slightly cheaper
both would be great choices
you would be suprised with the quality you can get with that amount of money, way better than jensen.....
pac4eva5
09-10-2004, 11:46 PM
3 xxx's or 3 brahmas :wink:
sr20de4evr
09-11-2004, 12:14 AM
buy a pair of supersubs (xxx, brahma, idmax, etc) and another kenwood amp, or sell the amp you have and buy a bigger one to drive a pair of subs
CBFryman
09-11-2004, 01:16 PM
400 each...wowsers....try DD 3512's....or even 15's...they are DVC and you can get the coils in 1, 1.5, 3, and 4 ohms....if you get 3 then get 3ohms and if you get 4 then get 4 ohm coil so that when sired paralell yo uget a 1 ohm load....but your sill gonna need hella lotta more watts for thoes....or RE xxx 12's....
loismustdie
09-11-2004, 01:19 PM
400 each...wowsers....try DD 3512's....or even 15's...they are DVC and you can get the coils in 1, 1.5, 3, and 4 ohms....if you get 3 then get 3ohms and if you get 4 then get 4 ohm coil so that when sired paralell yo uget a 1 ohm load....but your sill gonna need hella lotta more watts for thoes....or RE xxx 12's....
i'd have to advise against the RE xxx's, you really don't have enough power for even one......but those idmaxs or the oz me's will get loud with that amount of power
i'd have to advise against the RE xxx's, you really don't have enough power for even one......but those idmaxs or the oz me's will get loud with that amount of power
CBFryman
09-11-2004, 02:09 PM
well im jsut htinking if he can afford 1200 on subs alone he can afford a few more amps or a larger amp....
Navy I.C.
09-12-2004, 12:52 AM
If you cop (3) 12 or 13W7's at once, I'm sure you could get them within your price range...believe me, setup right, there'll be no one short of pro ckt winners out there that would be able to f_ck with you...
CBFryman
09-12-2004, 09:55 AM
LOOK HERE T OSEE WHY JL ISNT THE END ALL (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=285053) SR20 shows why even the JL 13W7, though a good woofer, can be easily beaten with a better woofer that often cost less....
r1anz
09-13-2004, 12:27 AM
well if i need to get another amp i will only thing is i would like to stick with Kenwood only the becuase i have the 815 indash DVD player and sirrius unit and one kenwood amp so im trying to keep it all the same other then speaks cause the kenwoods or crap!!!!!!!!! Also the head unit will control the amp no need for a bass knob. the only reason i'm willing to spend so much is if i'm going to cut a hole the the cab and bed of my truck it gotto be worth it........
r1anz
09-13-2004, 12:37 AM
Also Quality sound is very important More so than anything else.....Just took out the inter. of my truck and Dynomat the whole thing. also plan on mating the bed too.
Haibane
09-13-2004, 01:12 PM
Kenwood is a no no for SQ, and definately a no no in the amplifier department IMO, but my friend runs the high end mono class D amp they have, that is about the only one I would suggest if you are going to stay with them. Don't go with their speakers or subs though. Try blueprint, adire, alpine, JL, elemental designs, Resonant Engineering, or something along those lines for a subwoofer. Try Focal, CDT, Edi, boston, mb quart, or something along those lines for a pair of speakers. Try audiocontrol for an equalizer.
Navy I.C.
09-13-2004, 02:00 PM
LOOK HERE T OSEE WHY JL ISNT THE END ALL (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=285053) SR20 shows why even the JL 13W7, though a good woofer, can be easily beaten with a better woofer that often cost less....
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and then step away from his cock
I repeat, step - away - from - the - cock...
like I said, I'm a show and prove type of guy. but, if you want to go the egg head route, re-read the thread and do the math yourself...
first of all, remove the dick from your mouth...
and then step away from his cock
I repeat, step - away - from - the - cock...
like I said, I'm a show and prove type of guy. but, if you want to go the egg head route, re-read the thread and do the math yourself...
CBFryman
09-13-2004, 09:49 PM
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pac4eva5
09-13-2004, 11:26 PM
dude, you need to grow up. i know you are 15, but come on! you dont know anything. why do you have to reply to every single thread and be wrong every single time. just shut up cuz nobody likes you. the only freshman in highschool is you!!! please grow up.
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