GSX Automatic

I didnt think they came automatic but i saw an ad for one is it truE?

yes!

LOL nice... yes.

would it beings an automatic screw up tunging it

No, absolutely not. For a period of time the auto will be slower than a manual transmission, but after installing an aftermarket tranny and torque converter, the automatic DSMs can be faster than the manual ones.

See this thread:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=281450

Does the aftermarket tranny add a gear to the auto setup? that fact that there are only 4 gears seems to be the biggest problem for the automatics.

bah, it doesnt matter how many gears you have, its how they are set up. ive seen a ford farm truck with 3 on the tree run 11sec with a bale of hay still in the back.

The number of gears matters for high hp low torque cars since they take advantage of those gears redlining in everyone of them. That truck ( I'm guessing was a turbo disael) probably puts down a massive amount of torque and can turn longer gears

naw it wont change gears.. hes talking a torque converter witch makes an otherwise useless auto tranny great off the line.. and id throw in a shift kit too.. you gotta remember one thing.. i have yet to meet anybody that can shift faster than auto tranny does.. peace

its not a torque converter its a stall converter... it allows you to manage a higher rev without moving or stalling out.

a torque converter is a stall converter

hey a have a link to one of my threads inside a thread i must be famouse

a torque converter is a stall converter


your wrong... go research!

an aftermarket torque converter gives you a higher stall along with not slipping as much. what does an aftermarket stall converter do?

go research!

no it doesnt! torque converter multiplies torque, stall converter raises the RPM range before engaging!

go research!

there is such thing as a high stall torque converter but a stall converter is not a torque converter!

Ok that makes more sense but besides the launch the auto gsx is going to still be behind the manual because it has less gears right? I've never seen times for the 1/4 of a auto gsx. The only reason why I'm so curious is that I'm too lazy to drive stick but don't want to lose performance

auto's are slower! i believe its only like .2 - .3 sec if i can remember correctly...

There are Autos in the low 10s/high 9s. I believe Kevin Kwaitowski is auto, and russ cox may be too, cant remember.

Yes, Russ COX is auto AWD, 10.1 at 136 (very good ET for that MPH). Kevin is FWD, but cant remember about the tranny, 9.7 at 150.

www.dsmtimes.org

less gears doesn't matter in the 1/4 mile, with a manual you probably wouldn't get out of 3rd.

a manual will be faster off the line.....an auto will be faster otherwise because of the flawless shifting (unless you are a flawless manual shifter) and a manual will probably have more top end speed.

thanks 95_gsxracer
the reason I was concerned about less gears is that the 5 speed has a closer gear ratio which would mean its accelerating harder through each one. But after looking at those et's i'm not as worried

less gears doesn't matter in the 1/4 mile, with a manual you probably wouldn't get out of 3rd.


I'm around 7500 in 4th gear at the end of the quarter ;)


Less gears is an issue depending on the torque curve. With a very narrow power band (think vtech) fewer gears would really hurt since you wouldnt be in the meat of the power band enough. And those type of cars with autos are slow. With the wider power band of the 4g63 with turbo, you can get away with it. Add to that the fact that the turbo never de-spools with an auto, and you can maintain a relatively wide power band even with a large turbo. ;) Look at all the 4g63 powered cars with 2 speed powerglides running between 7s and 9s.

FWIW, a local girl with a FWD auto 2g was running 15.6s stock. Thats not too far off the pace of 5 spd FWDs. And a half second behind stock AWD 5 spds. Not bad IMO. I still prefer manual of course though.