Spoiler Question

I just have a quick question, I wanna get a spoiler for my 1995 Z28. I want to get the APR Aluminum Wing that comes on the Supra from the first Fast and Furious. But i want it to be functional, i have been reading about it and it claims to be functional, but will it work on my car? And when i install it so i remove the stock spoiler and bolt it onto the truck? Or on to the stock spoiler? Because i would need a third brake light so i dont get pulled over. I just want something original, unique, and something that will stand out fromt eh rest and get my car noticed. Thanks, I also am getting the car prepped for autocross racing and need it to be function for that as well. I also am doing the front end convesion, most likely the black housing halo headlights, xenon front, and ultra Z hood, and if you know anyone that makes fenders that are wider than the stock ones please let me know, Thanks.

i don't think that thing will be functional at all. those large ducktails (i think thats what they call them) are the only spoilers that do anything on a camaro. i have also seen those heavy duty spoilers for a corvette that attach to the frame... maybe they make them for camaros, but it will take a lot of fabrication.



...your probably going to get a lot of shit in the camaro forum with a thread about spoilers :)

Spoilers only really work at very high speeds. They are pretty much just got looks on a street car.

this is a joke, right?

Theres a guy from our local camaro club here that has a big spoiler on the back and like new cavalier side ground effects, and a celica rear bumper, and a prelude front end, all aftermarket stuff.

Big spoilers dont just go on imports.

Big spoilers dont just go on imports.

You are absolutely correct! No, they don't. There are a couple Domestic cars here in town that look outright aweful with huge spoilers! Big spoilers only look good on a select few cars.

If a big adjustable spoiler is required for Functionability, is the car really a street car? The only cars I have seen that actually regularly see the high speeds required for one of those Big spoilers are race cars that are on open road races or big tracks such as road atlanta or something like that. A factory Spoiler such as an SS spoiler works perfect and provides plenty of DF for speeds well over 100 MPH, IMO. if you are doing the whole Auto-X in a parking lot with cones there is no need for one of those big spoilers.

One example: A friend of mine haad a CRX honda with a big turbo and stuff. He had a big wing on it (not a big aluminum adjustable, but a big fiberglass hi rise one) and went to the local 1/8 mile dragstrip. He made a Pass, then removed the spoiler and made another pass. HE PICKED UP LIKE 3 TENTHS AND 4 MPH (somEthing like that) JUST BY REMOVING THE SPOILER! in other words, the spoiler was creating way too much down force to do the car any good at the slow speeds (He was trapping like 80MPH).
Point is- Unless you are running your car at a road course, chances are the big spoiler will slow you down.

I want to get the APR Aluminum Wing that comes on the Supra from the first Fast and Furious. .


please.. please dont! It would be another camaro ruined.. (IMO)

But seriously, Those spoilers are not functional.. As deadcarny stated, your car will probably never see a consistant speed required for a spoiler like that..Its just going to slow you down.. I love the look of the factory SS or RS spoiler, and being from factory and designed for the car, you know they'l do their job...

check out www.lgmotorsports.com, i think they have an autocross spoiler for the camaro. as for the rest of you guys. try watching an ALMS or SCCA race. they all have spoilers and they all work. the only reason why its stupid for the ricer guys to have spoilers is cause going down the road at 45 mph to work is not gonna make a huge spoiler that doesnt match the car work...

bottom line, if you have a big "functional" spoiler on your car, and only exceed 120mph 5% of the time, your a poser, have a nice day.

i don't think that thing will be functional at all. those large ducktails (i think thats what they call them) are the only spoilers that do anything on a camaro. i have also seen those heavy duty spoilers for a corvette that attach to the frame... maybe they make them for camaros, but it will take a lot of fabrication.



...your probably going to get a lot of shit in the camaro forum with a thread about spoilers :)

i have one of those huge vette wings...wanna buy it? =P

in test runs the Audi TT was flipping over on the Autobahn at really high speeds because of its shape, so they had to put that spoiler on it and it solved the whole problem

VIDS PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD POST LINKS TO VIDS :evillol:








oh nevermind, my mental picture is probly better anyway :)

i wish i had some... i have not actually seen it. i read it somewhere, but i can't actually confirm that its true

i dont really like those cars, so its a great mental picture, ill just sit here, think about it, and smile :)

so wings west is selling this spoiler for camaros... it deffinately wins the award for gayest spoiler ever!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3141/1675232454.jpg

its pretty bad.. But ive seen a lot worse! I seen a guy build a spoiler out of 2x4's!!

yeah, but like a couple of us posted above, those are HIGH SPEEDS! a normal street car here in the US do not regularly see those speeds.

ChevyRacinCamaro- Cars raced through ALMS ans some scca events see high speeds at road courses where the spoiler is neccesary....

ChevyRacinCamaro- Cars raced through ALMS ans some scca events see high speeds at road courses where the spoiler is neccesary....

that was exactly my point. it was in response to the guys that said spoilers were pointless and that they did nothing. the guy said he was setting his maro up for road-racing so a gave a road-racing example...

well his camaro ain't gonna go any faster than 160. i got mine at 140 and it was just fine without any spoiler.

yeah but were you trying to make 160* turns?

um, i thought autocross was the road course on a big parking lot with orange cones, i would be EXTREAMLY impressed if he reached speeds worthy of a functional rear spoiler on one of those courses.

I have to agree with what the one person said about putting a big ol honking spoiler on a camaro

Another camaro ruined!!

i hit 160mph and the car handled beautifully with the small stock spoiler (wasnt a camaro)

Me personally. I don't like them. Unless I need one I wont get it. I highly doubt that I'll need one any way. I'd only put a Type R Spoiler on a DC5(Honda Integra/Acura RSX)

Lol, the spoiler in my sig, was specifically designed for the car the rest of the panels.. it serves a purpose because this is a car that normally would see those speeds.. if you don't go that fast.. stick to stock.. Not that i do, but that wing is stock.. haha

Lol, the spoiler in my sig, was specifically designed for the car the rest of the panels.. it serves a purpose because this is a car that normally would see those speeds.. if you don't go that fast.. stick to stock.. Not that i do, but that wing is stock.. haha


so what kinda speeds are you talking about because i seriously doubt that spoiler does anything

are you fucking serious?!?!?!?! Do you know anything about this car?????

http://www.geocities.com/nideggerh/aerodynamic.html

A BMW representative talking to the press at the Geneva Motor Show in 1990.

BMW research and development chief, Wolfgang Reitzle:
"The laws of aerodynamics must be different between Munich and Stuttgart"... "IF THAT REAR WING WORKS, WE WILL HAVE TO REBUILD THE BMW TUNNEL"

And they did !!!!!!!!!!!!

um, kris, remember your in the camaro forum, we dont know mercs. so be calm, try to think of me peeing on one of those parked on the street after a long night at the bar :)

sorry, but saying that the EVO II spoiler does nothing... i dunno, i just worked soo hard for THAT car.

blah blah blah... I'd take a '69 SS over that thing anyday

lol, gotta give it props for rarity though, you got big brass ones if you drive that thing every day.

oh yes.. this is going to be driven everyday.. I wanted it because my friend had the producion 2.3-16.. this thing is sweet.. i have blown my life savings, and am selling my 2 cars, and took out 15,000 with the bank. If i ever get the cash, a turbo would be nice.

and the day after you pay it off, some ass in a POS express is gonna ruin your decade :(



ahhhhh murphy, i know him well ;)

lol, my friend that had the 2.3-16 messed up his engine.. it was going to cost him 6500 for a new one... not including the cosworth head. So I have another body for the car.. as long as the engine isn't fucked. Although, it would look like a regular 2.3-16, no aero stuff, and a way smaller spoiler.

... but a good parts car nonetheless

lol, so basicly youd have the same car, minus all the stuff that makes it special ;)

Nope.. the engine itself is special.. his engine(if it worked) made about 173 hp. and 225ftlb. Mine makes 235hp and 230ftlb. Remember this is a 4 banger, with no s/c, turbo, just the engine.. The body aerodynamics makes it special because it's such a heavy car, and it's a sedan that haul's ass. 0-60 in 6.7. But all of them are special, made with cosworth heads... but only 2,000 per year, for 5 years were made. The EVO had 502 made.

and btw.. it would whip a 69 camaro.. on the track, and pricewise.

and btw.. it would whip a 69 camaro.. on the track, and pricewise.

the comment is so retarded that I am not going to dignify it with a responce

the comment is so retarded that I am not going to dignify it with a responce
Agreed! What was the point of his comment? There are a TON of cars out there that would whip up on many of the older Musclecars and Pony cars....But they sure don't look as good!

um, actually bro, it depends on what model 69 camaro youre talking about. yeah a sixer, maybe a base 327 or even a 350 maybe. but the Z28 would spank that merc, so would the ZL1, and several big block options. the big blocks (including the ZL1) may not take it on the road course, but they were purpose designed drag cars, so they werent meant to, the Z on the other hand, would give you a run for your money. and if you modified just the tires on the Z from back then, oh man, no contest you wouldnt ever see it again after the first turn. sorry man, i dont mean to hate on anyones ride, especially a cool person, but in my opinion, that car isnt NEARLY worth the ammount of money you seem to have paid for it, exept in rarity value, at the track, and on the street, im just not that impressed.

everyone has their own opinions, and that's cool.. it's not a street designed car anyway.. it was more for rallying.. and it's 14 yrs old.. But none the less, i love it.

mines 16 years old ^.^

Nailz, first of all I love the car. Second, nice avatar

yeah Nailz, i am deffinately going to have to say that is the best looking 80's camaro i have ever seen. how did you get those z06 wheels to fit or are they only 8'' wide?

yea i agreeeeee nice camaro nailz!!!!!!

and btw.. it would whip a 69 camaro.. on the track, and pricewise.

not with the 0-60 that you said it wouldnt, sorry to say. nice car though, i always respect the german cars cause they are designed specifically for the autobahn...

bottom line, if you have a big "functional" spoiler on your car, and only exceed 120mph 5% of the time, your a poser, have a nice day.
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Well i do want the spoiler mostly for looks but somewhat functional, if it is going to slow me down on races i dont wanna get it but i just want the look. I've seen a camaro Race car before online and it looked great with one if the spoilers i want, which is the APR aluminum wing that is adjustable by i think 35degrees. I just want to do something not everyone esle does so i dont have the normal Z28 everyone esle has, and we are doing stuff to the engine as well, most liekly an LT4 package or if we can find the right people a LT5, but mostly i want it for looks and speed. I am going to put some pics of my car on cardomain.com soon cuz i just scanned them. Now dont laugh but i did buy some altezza's but not the crome ones or anything all flashy, they are carbon fiber and they were the rarest ones i could fine and looked the best in my opinion.

those Carbon fiber tails are really sharp.. specially on the right colored car.. Ide never get the chrome ones though

From what I have learned, being different is just going to get you pulled over more and stuff stolen more. I have a stock 83 cross fire z28. I bought my car for 3 grand, and have done nothing to it. I find way more satisfaction in beeting these little hondas that look like crap when they bought their car for 5 g's, have put just as much $ into 'em, and I still beet them. Raced a crx with v-tech and a 50 shot of nos, still beet him, on the freeway. My car only goes to 105, maybe 110 (speedo doesn't go that high). Put your money into the motor and suspension, for autocrossing you don't need a huge wing, you won't go that fast on an autocross. Unless you want to put a huge "ducktail" as it was called before like short track race cars use and put it at about 75degrees from your truck lid, no spoiler is going to help you. Go to your local circle track and ask the drivers what they think, they do this every sunday and get the most traction they can while never reaching much above 80mph for most of them. Don't use hondas and such for examples, they are front wheel drive and dont need spoilers anyways. If its just the look your going for, which I hope at this point it is cuz everyone has shown why it isn't practical for performance, go for it, but don't look for a lot of respect from other camaro owners, most of us think those are a disgrace to the car. BUT, do what you like, its your car, so make it yours.

:iamwithst :cheers: lol, jk man, just seeing i agree was so cliche ;)

:iamwithst :cheers: lol, jk man, just seeing i agree was so cliche ;)
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:iamwithst :cheers: lol, jk man, just seeing i agree was so cliche ;)
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The best looking spoiler that you can buy, is the stock SS spoiler by far. Big spoilers are for teenagers to put on there 14 different colered piece honda civic. Get a civic and save the camaro.

i like the SS spoiler, think its the best looking one for the maro...

why don't ya get this spoiler... i bet its functional:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3141/1675232jesusvillarealcpz28-med.jpg

THAT IS A DAMN CAMARO RIGHT THERE. GOOD LORD THE BACK RIM AND TIRE LOOKS NAAASTY, SIDE EXHAUST, HOLY HELL. btw, i definately agree that the ss spoiler looks the best, i prefer the lt1 spoiler without the 2 brace things, but either one looks tight with the slight flip up at the end. anybody got one for sale?

That was exactly what I was talking about. And look, its on an autocross course! Ok, so its a slightly modified camaro, but still.

why don't ya get this spoiler... i bet its functional:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3141/1675232jesusvillarealcpz28-med.jpg


thats not functional...look at the picture...whats the purpose of a wing? to hold the wheels on the ground..
as u can see the front left wheel is Off of the ground.