Gtr

Like I said, TOP SECRET is doing it, not Nissan. Nowing Nissan, or any Japanese company, I never seen them putting a V8 into a 2 door sports cars, exept the Lexus SC430.

the top secret site shows that even the japanese cant wait for the GT-R to come out. just wait, i bet you it will have that v8. ive also heard some rumors latley that they might be going with a vq32dett with electronically assited turbos.

i think they will stay with a 6cyl. i mean name one known japanese V8 sport car. Not even the NSX

I cant think of any, exept the SC430. I cant wait to see the new GTR, NSX, and hopefully the Supra!

I heard they were making a new supra, don't know if its true but I also hope so.

^ the supra and celica might come back as lexus models.

lexus is good, but its luxury cars. Whered u hear that or read that?

i dont remember, probably in here (AF) but rumors are that the celica might be a FR Lexus, cool huh!

yea, celicas werent that sporty before, so maybe this time it'll be sport and luxury, cool.

what i heard was that toyota was bringing back the supra in 06 or 07 after they drop the mr-S.

there have been many rummors about the supra, but that was all, there were many concepts out there also but never there was any real announcement, i dont know about the supra in 06 or 07 but lets hope its true.

what about 3000gt's, they also owned. they should also make them in production again.

i agree, the 3000gt's were hella nice

after reading this thread...all i hear is rhumours rhumours rhumours lol...dont believe any of the stuff you hear unless you know its a 100% fact

Well, I'm 110 % sure the NSX will be brand new for next year.

so, NSX is still in production, the 3000gt ended like in 1998? and the supra also isnt in production anymore. Well most people call them ricers now because of 2gay2watch

My personal theory is that since the two names are separate, you will need two different chassis designations for the two models. The Skyline got the new "V" designation, so the GT-R might keep the "R" designation going.


(sorry to bring up old comment :/)

the GT-R didnt just have the "R" designation, all chassis in the "R" had....r3x. HCR, ECR, BNR, so it wasnt just the GT-R models. I dont think we'll need two different chassis designations, because the GT-R will be based off the v35/g35, and assuming this is true they will keep the chassis. If they wanted to keep the "R" generation going, they would have to go back to a chassis style that they stopped producing 2 years ago, and the final product would look more like the "R" generation of skylines than the new evolution (v/g35.). Dont get me wrong, the R series is hot, but change is good and it was time for nissan to finally evolve the skyline.

(sorry to bring up old comment :/)

the GT-R didnt just have the "R" designation, all chassis in the "R" had....r3x. HCR, ECR, BNR, so it wasnt just the GT-R models. I dont think we'll need two different chassis designations, because the GT-R will be based off the v35/g35, and assuming this is true they will keep the chassis. If they wanted to keep the "R" generation going, they would have to go back to a chassis style that they stopped producing 2 years ago, and the final product would look more like the "R" generation of skylines than the new evolution (v/g35.). Dont get me wrong, the R series is hot, but change is good and it was time for nissan to finally evolve the skyline.

He's aware that the R designation is not just a GTR one.

He's mentioning what many GTR fans would like to see, that the GTR keeps the R designation. Keeping that designation would not mean that they use that chassis. Many production series had drastic chassis/body changes and still kept the body designation. One example is the old Silvia S12 to the S13, VERY different chassis and body. Another is the Z31 to Z32 bodies and even more recently the Z33, which chassis wise, is very different to the Z32.

Another thing is that since the new GTR will most likely not be related to the Skyline name, it could very well not be based off of the V35 body at all. In my opinion, I would think it would be based off of the Z33 more then anything due to the fact that they will have at least 3 years of tuning it's chassis/suspension/etc. in the JGTC and is what the GTR is supposed to be, the next flagship of Nissan. (or Infiniti now that the Infiniti name is supposed to be in Japan in the next couple of years)

the RX7 will also return on 2006

the RX7 will also return on 2006

the rx-7 wont, im sure of that. but they are comming out with a new 2 door rx-8.

Hopefully they do come out with a new RX7. And most importantly, a new Supra.

Hopefully they do come out with a new RX7. And most importantly, a new Supra.

Agreed :D. All the concepts I have seem look pretty promising, and if they follow the form of the concepts the car would be damn sexy :D.

whats wrong with the rx-8's?

The RX8s are very nice cars. The problem is, they are kinda slow. If they remake the GTR, and Supra, I hope they are as easily modded as the older ones.

I want the 3000gt back more than the supra or the rx7, and the GTR

He's aware that the R designation is not just a GTR one.
I'm glad you understood my point. :iceslolan

Keeping that designation would not mean that they use that chassis. Many production series had drastic chassis/body changes and still kept the body designation. One example is the old Silvia S12 to the S13, VERY different chassis and body. Another is the Z31 to Z32 bodies and even more recently the Z33, which chassis wise, is very different to the Z32.

Very true. There are even more examples, like the Sentras(all B-chassis designations since the 80s) and Maximas(A-chassis since '84, if not sooner).

Another thing is that since the new GTR will most likely not be related to the Skyline name, it could very well not be based off of the V35 body at all. In my opinion, I would think it would be based off of the Z33 more then anything due to the fact that they will have at least 3 years of tuning it's chassis/suspension/etc. in the JGTC and is what the GTR is supposed to be, the next flagship of Nissan.

Well, the Z33, V35 and CPV35 aren't really all that different. For the sake of simplicity, lets just say the V35 is the original FM chassis. You've got variants like the Z33, which has a shorter wheelbase and wider track. The CPV35(Skyline Coupe) is a wide track version of the V35. Another FM-based vehicle, the Infiniti FX35/45, has some differences too. I'm not sure what they are, aside from the front suspension(different to accomodate the VK45 V8). The chassis might be strengthened to support the FX's towing capacity.

The FM chassis has already been taken a step further. The Nissan Fuga aka the Infiniti M35/45 is based on a newer, stronger version. The chassis has also been stretched, and is called 'FR-L,' or 'Front engine, Rear drive, Large.' The V36 Skyline might be based on a similarly revised FM platform(not stretched), and I figure the GT-R would be too. Who knows, with the continual testing going on, the FM platform could be revised yet again for the V36 before we see the new GT-R.

i get what you guys are saying :D but my point is that the whole line was based off of R chassis (in a sense), and now that they stepped up to the V chassis, why would they go back?

i get what you guys are saying :D but my point is that the whole line was based off of R chassis (in a sense), and now that they stepped up to the V chassis, why would they go back?

Only the most recent GT-Rs were based on the R-series chassis, which came around in the eighties. The Nissan GT-R badge goes all the way back to the sixties. I can't remember offhand what the designations were for them.

The R-designation has come to be synonymous with the GT-R badge, however. Since the Skyline and GT-R names were going to be separated(two different models, see?), Nissan needed a new chassis designation. That's probably where the V came from. The R will probably stick with the GT-R.

Only the most recent GT-Rs were based on the R-series chassis, which came around in the eighties. The Nissan GT-R badge goes all the way back to the sixties. I can't remember offhand what the designations were for them.

The R-designation has come to be synonymous with the GT-R badge, however. Since the Skyline and GT-R names were going to be separated(two different models, see?), Nissan needed a new chassis designation. That's probably where the V came from. The R will probably stick with the GT-R.


In a way you just proved my point. The most recent incarnation of the GT-R's used the BNR3(x) chassis starting in 89, but before 89, they used different chassis. In 1969 when the first GT-R came to be, they used the PGC10, then in 1970 they switched to the KPGC10. Again, in 1973 the GT-R evolved again, this time using the KPGC110 chassis. What your saying is that since the BNR series came out, thats what they should stick with, right? or at least base it off that chassis. I bet the same things were said in 89 when the BNR32 chassis was used, "why dont they use to the PGC10 chassis?" The answer is (and i think we can agree on this) simple, it was time for the GT-R to evolve into a new machine. Now nissan has started using the V chassis found in the 350z and v/g35. Dont you agree that it is time, once again, for the GT-R to evolve? There were skylines using the R code before the r32 came out, such as the r31 and r30 (you know this!), but they didnt have GT-R in their lineup. Im not saying your point is crap, because it is a very logical thing that could happen. I think im just making a valid argument that I believe it is time that the skyline will emerge using the v chassis, and for logical reason.

Hopefully they do come out with a new RX7. And most importantly, a new Supra.
if teh supra comes back itll be under the lexus badge.... toyota wouldnt want to mess theur most mpg reputation now would they.... :uhoh:
plus theyre droppin the I-6 and the 3.0 power plants... going 3.3

Now nissan has started using the V chassis found in the 350z and v/g35. Dont you agree that it is time, once again, for the GT-R to evolve? There were skylines using the R code before the r32 came out, such as the r31 and r30 (you know this!), but they didnt have GT-R in their lineup. Im not saying your point is crap, because it is a very logical thing that could happen. I think im just making a valid argument that I believe it is time that the skyline will emerge using the v chassis, and for logical reason.

Well, the one thing you might be missing is that the chassis is not called 'V.' That's just the designation for the Skylines based off of it. The chassis is really called the FM platform. Different model lines based off of the same chassis will get different designations. The 350Z for example, isn't V-something. It's called the Z33, continuing the Z-car designation(Z32 and Z31 before it). The upcoming Fuga replaces the Cedric/Gloria twins, which used the Y designation(Y34 the most recent). The Fuga might be designated Y35.

The GT-R name really took off after the R32 model('Godzilla' and all that), so Nissan might decide to keep it and cash in on the heritage. It makes sense fropm a marketing standpoint.

"R" was simply the chassis last # for the skyline, it has nothing to with its engine, so what is the new gtr going to be? r35. Why would it change? the new skyline(v35) is based on the V plattform maybe because of the engine it is using, there is a good possibility that it will be called the gtr (v35) bassed on the 350 gt. But what if nissan decided to not use this same chasssis? Here is where the (r35) might come in.