LS vs GSR?

uhh...look at na torque curve dynos and boost na is power on demand boost is wait...then hold on another big problem is boost! You have no traction especially on the street unless u go illegal and run slicks 24/7. All motor car will accelerate faster but when turbo hits it'll pull way harder traction pending in 1/4 mi...a properly setup all motor car will kill decent output turbo car. On the highway bye bye all motor!

the fastest and most affordable way to gain power is f/i, not all-motor. whoever told u all motor is cheaper or faster on the streets is wrong and have no clue what they are talking about.




I've never said that.:confused:

uhh...look at na torque curve dynos and boost na is power on demand boost is wait...then hold on another big problem is boost! You have no traction especially on the street unless u go illegal and run slicks 24/7. All motor car will accelerate faster but when turbo hits it'll pull way harder traction pending in 1/4 mi...a properly setup all motor car will kill decent output turbo car. On the highway bye bye all motor!

evidently, u never heard of sequential turbo systems, turbo sizing, ball bearing turbos, or superchargers for that matter. sounds to me u have no clue on these issues, and ur generally rambling about all motor fast, turbo motor slow, on street all motor rules, and turbo car die. u have no idea whats going on do u? its not one is faster then other, its how much u got to spend to make the car faster, and in this case because f/i will always be more affordable, this will be more faster if given the same budget. geez, u and ur generalize sentences, please stop.

Oh trust me! All motor cars rule the streets no matter what!

I've never said that.:confused:

u never said that huh?

ok im done. no more replies from me.

its not one is faster then other, its how much u got to spend to make the car faster, and in this case because f/i will always be more affordable, this will be more faster if given the same budget.

Thats not the fucking point! The point IS all motor has its advantage over turbo cars in the streets! OMG dude u just dont understand at all! Go and do some research. U accused me sayin that all motor is CHEAPER??!! I never said that did i?!

mellowboy=gay

mellowboy=gay


GO fuck yourself. :disappoin


Me and trans nsx are bein mature about it. All we're doin is DEBATING and not dissing each other. SO if you wanna start shit go ahead.

either way its all prefference whether u like a turbo or pure engine its cheaper for turbo to get power. now as apposed to ls and gsr. my friend has a ls it runs 12.20. he has stock internals hes running 20 lbs of boost and its hondata engine management. its suppose to be the fastest in utah. it was tuned by a guy named courtney who runs a consistant 11.89 in his hatchback. hes suppose to be the best tuner in utah for honda's. i no alot of guys who goto him and they all run 12's. but the thing is its tuned perfect and the compression is lower than a gsr so he can get away with it. gsr is gonna cost you more in the long run. but i really like my gsr and im willing to wait til i get the money to do what i want. you just need to decide what u wanna do and if you got the people around to help you out. i might not no alot about my transmission i thought it was lsd cuz i can burn both tires. i think theres some sorta traction control on them thou. but i no engines well. u just need to figure out how far u wanna take it. an ls is gonna be all around cheaper and parts are gonna be easier to find too. as oppsoed to mellow and trans you both have goodpoints. personally im gonna try to get engine horsepower first then turbo if its not enough for me. but i like pure engine i grew up building chevys and pontiacs this is gonna be my first import ive worked on. anyways its all prefference man just find the best deal that works for you.

Haha, nice try tho guy. He was so desprete he bust a false move. blah blah blah.. yea been there done that, got those! Plus still with my stock fresh n so clean (ilLeSt) rims. Still spank your Geeser whip!

Haha, nice try tho guy. He was so desprete he bust a false move. blah blah blah.. yea been there done that, got those! Plus still with my stock fresh n so clean (ilLeSt) rims. Still spank your Geeser whip!

Was that english? Is that supposed to confuse everyone and make them thank snoop-dogg and his cohorts for educating the youth? What in the world was all that supposed to mean?

uhm... I'm going to have to agree. I'm not sure what was said there. I'm sure the [clean (ilLeSt) rims] means, he still has the stock "LS mesh" wheels (which I too love), but I'm not sure of the rest.

ILLEST means coolest in slang terms ;) I still dont know why he was sayin all that shit though.

dudes right theres no lsd trans in your teg and by the way go gsr if can

Im gunna have to agree on Tran nsx on the na vs fi debate. I completly understand where you are coming from melowboy, BUT, turbo lag IS a thing of the past. With ball bearing turbos, properly sized, nitrous spooling or w/o nitrous, turbos can spool up quite quickley on high revvin honda motors.

Ball bearing turbo can be used in high compression and what you gonna say about that? Well this discussion is done.

WOW, is this conversation still on?

My mechanic (good guy) says that with great tunning you can run turbo with a mildly high compresion, but it would be more of a hassle. Best bet is to keep compresion low. I don't know shit about turbos, but I trust what my mechanic says.

never said you couldnt use ball bearing turbos on highER compression. Your argument about NAvsFI was you had to wait for boost at WOT, well no, you really dont. thats what i was saying

Damn Im Confused

Ok How Can My Auto Ls Stock Beat A Gsr, Or Is It Impossible, Cuz I Dont Want To Deal With That Vtec Conversion, Cuz It Dont Last Long And Cost A Grip. Im Doing A Stick Change Too, But Perhap Ls Turbo Will Do The Job?

of course a turbo ls can beat a gsr...remember swaping to a vtec will only had 30 more hp and it costs a grip, just go with the turbo, cheaper and more hp

ok now i have decided to do a ls turbo. If i fix my internal parts like piston, crankshaft, camshaft, rings, bearing, pistons, and rods. Well it make huge different then a all polish ported head and everything.