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NeonAtron
08-06-2004, 12:38 PM
Hey i was just wondering what the big idea about the number 666 is? i know its supposed to be the devil's number or whatever but what does it mean if you see it. when i was in high school and we were reading out loud this chick was like "i not going to read off this page! its numbered 666!" and i was lookin at her like :wtf: and then my teacher got said that her social security no. has 666 in the middle of it and she is as well spooked by that...why!?...does that mean ur going to hell or somthing? does that mean if you have 666 in ur telephone no. the devil is gonna call you? pleaze explain. thanx.
Hyatus
08-06-2004, 12:43 PM
santa clause is as real as religon so i dont belive any of it.
P.S. God is and imaginary friend for grown ups
peace
P.S. God is and imaginary friend for grown ups
peace
psychobadboy
08-06-2004, 12:46 PM
My mom has '666' in her driver's license number and nothing has happened yet. We're not even concerned about it.
Hyatus
08-06-2004, 12:55 PM
if bush hears of 666 he raises the terrer alert,
p.s. did anything bad happen in the year 666 no
p.s. did anything bad happen in the year 666 no
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 01:00 PM
If you do the research, in the bible, God always does thing's in 7's. Plus in those times, saying something 3 times is the most infactic way of saying something. So, 777 is thought to represent the most perfect number. So that would make 666 the most imperfect number. Also, 666 is known as the mark of the beast. At this point in time, it's just a number. No hexes or anything.
psychobadboy
08-06-2004, 01:00 PM
p.s. did anything bad happen in the year 666 no
I don't even know anything that happened in the year 666. Haha.
Maybe they skipped that year just like some buildings don't have a 13th floor. People are too superstitious.
I don't even know anything that happened in the year 666. Haha.
Maybe they skipped that year just like some buildings don't have a 13th floor. People are too superstitious.
Hyatus
08-06-2004, 01:03 PM
I don't even know anything that happened in the year 666. Haha.
Maybe they skipped that year just like some buildings don't have a 13th floor. People are too superstitious.
i guess everyone was just on there best behavior in the year 666 lol
Maybe they skipped that year just like some buildings don't have a 13th floor. People are too superstitious.
i guess everyone was just on there best behavior in the year 666 lol
psychobadboy
08-06-2004, 01:08 PM
i guess everyone was just on there best behavior in the year 666 lol
:lol2:
If you do the research, in the bible, God always does thing's in 7's. Plus in those times, saying something 3 times is the most infactic way of saying something. So, 777 is thought to represent the most perfect number. So that would make 666 the most imperfect number. Also, 666 is known as the mark of the beast. At this point in time, it's just a number. No hexes or anything.
Ok, I understand from that explaination why 777 would be the most perfect number, but why would 666 be concidered the most imperfect? Just cuz it's just off of being perfect? Wouldn't 111 be the most imperfect number in this case?
:dunno:
:lol2:
If you do the research, in the bible, God always does thing's in 7's. Plus in those times, saying something 3 times is the most infactic way of saying something. So, 777 is thought to represent the most perfect number. So that would make 666 the most imperfect number. Also, 666 is known as the mark of the beast. At this point in time, it's just a number. No hexes or anything.
Ok, I understand from that explaination why 777 would be the most perfect number, but why would 666 be concidered the most imperfect? Just cuz it's just off of being perfect? Wouldn't 111 be the most imperfect number in this case?
:dunno:
boingo82
08-06-2004, 01:21 PM
YES!! my license plate has "777" in it. Backatcha!!
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 02:04 PM
:lol2:
Ok, I understand from that explaination why 777 would be the most perfect number, but why would 666 be concidered the most imperfect? Just cuz it's just off of being perfect? Wouldn't 111 be the most imperfect number in this case?
:dunno:
It's the so close, yet so far thinking. By your thinking, 101010 or 999 would be the most perfect number. 666 represent's human's. No matter how hard you try, you can never be perfect, just like 666 will never be 777. Your as close as you can be, but just not there. understand?
Ok, I understand from that explaination why 777 would be the most perfect number, but why would 666 be concidered the most imperfect? Just cuz it's just off of being perfect? Wouldn't 111 be the most imperfect number in this case?
:dunno:
It's the so close, yet so far thinking. By your thinking, 101010 or 999 would be the most perfect number. 666 represent's human's. No matter how hard you try, you can never be perfect, just like 666 will never be 777. Your as close as you can be, but just not there. understand?
Hyatus
08-06-2004, 02:17 PM
It's the so close, yet so far thinking. By your thinking, 101010 or 999 would be the most perfect number. 666 represent's human's. No matter how hard you try, you can never be perfect, just like 666 will never be 777. Your as close as you can be, but just not there. understand?
like pie being 3.14234242345..... blah blah blah
like pie being 3.14234242345..... blah blah blah
landyacht
08-06-2004, 03:01 PM
If you do the research, in the bible, God always does thing's in 7's. Plus in those times, saying something 3 times is the most infactic way of saying something. So, 777 is thought to represent the most perfect number. So that would make 666 the most imperfect number. Also, 666 is known as the mark of the beast. At this point in time, it's just a number. No hexes or anything.
The devil always does things backwards and opposite of God. It was originally 999 but because of the backwards and opposite, people realized that the 'devils number' was really 666 known as the mark of the beast. Because of the satanic symbol of the number combination, it makes people edgy and fearfull. Just a little history on the topic.
Unfortunately i don't have any bits of scripture that i can add to demonstrate this bit on the numbers, it's something i learned from a Bible Scholar and Pastor a couple years back. However I can demonstrate the backwards and opposite if you'd like, just let me know.
The devil always does things backwards and opposite of God. It was originally 999 but because of the backwards and opposite, people realized that the 'devils number' was really 666 known as the mark of the beast. Because of the satanic symbol of the number combination, it makes people edgy and fearfull. Just a little history on the topic.
Unfortunately i don't have any bits of scripture that i can add to demonstrate this bit on the numbers, it's something i learned from a Bible Scholar and Pastor a couple years back. However I can demonstrate the backwards and opposite if you'd like, just let me know.
NeonAtron
08-06-2004, 04:28 PM
so where does that leave everyday numbers that turn out to be 777 or 666? do they mean anything?
boingo82
08-06-2004, 06:37 PM
like pie being 3.14234242345..... blah blah blah
:smack:
3.141592653
Geez, what do they teach in schools these days?!?
It's the so close, yet so far thinking. By your thinking, 101010 or 999 would be the most perfect number. 666 represent's human's. No matter how hard you try, you can never be perfect, just like 666 will never be 777. Your as close as you can be, but just not there. understand?
Huh? Why not 776.9999999? THAT is close as can be but not yet there. 666 is 111 away from 777!!
:smack:
3.141592653
Geez, what do they teach in schools these days?!?
It's the so close, yet so far thinking. By your thinking, 101010 or 999 would be the most perfect number. 666 represent's human's. No matter how hard you try, you can never be perfect, just like 666 will never be 777. Your as close as you can be, but just not there. understand?
Huh? Why not 776.9999999? THAT is close as can be but not yet there. 666 is 111 away from 777!!
zebrathree
08-06-2004, 07:01 PM
Iron Maiden wrote a good song about The Number Of The Beast. Inspired by The Omen movies it was.
Just bringing some good old devil worshipping rock into this :D
Just bringing some good old devil worshipping rock into this :D
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 09:17 PM
:smack:
3.141592653
Geez, what do they teach in schools these days?!?
Huh? Why not 776.9999999? THAT is close as can be but not yet there. 666 is 111 away from 777!!
O, God your dense :slap:. 776.9999999 is not saying 6 three times is it? remember, in bible times, saying something 3 times was the most infactic way to say anything. Like saying 'Holy, holy, holy', that's as holy as you get. is it sinking in yet. Plus, they didn't know about decimals back then.
3.141592653
Geez, what do they teach in schools these days?!?
Huh? Why not 776.9999999? THAT is close as can be but not yet there. 666 is 111 away from 777!!
O, God your dense :slap:. 776.9999999 is not saying 6 three times is it? remember, in bible times, saying something 3 times was the most infactic way to say anything. Like saying 'Holy, holy, holy', that's as holy as you get. is it sinking in yet. Plus, they didn't know about decimals back then.
Moppie
08-06-2004, 09:35 PM
O, God your dense :slap:.
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You poor poor little boy. :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:
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You poor poor little boy. :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:
twospirits
08-06-2004, 09:40 PM
Wait, Wait, Wait, don't let her start , Let me get my popcorn, This will be a good one. :lol:
All I have to add is "Be afraid, be very afraid" :lol:
All I have to add is "Be afraid, be very afraid" :lol:
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 09:41 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You poor poor little boy. :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:
What?
And what's this her crap?
You poor poor little boy. :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:
What?
And what's this her crap?
boingo82
08-06-2004, 10:36 PM
O, God your dense :slap:. 776.9999999 is not saying 6 three times is it? remember, in bible times, saying something 3 times was the most infactic way to say anything. Like saying 'Holy, holy, holy', that's as holy as you get. is it sinking in yet. Plus, they didn't know about decimals back then.
Hmm...I'm the dense one, yet you have managed to spell "emphatic" without the "E" or the "PH". It actually took me several seconds to figure out what you were attempting to say. Maybe we better stick to two syllables from now on, hmmm?? ;)
Further, they started using decimals around 3000b.c. In biblical times decimals most certainly WERE around.
Hmm...I'm the dense one, yet you have managed to spell "emphatic" without the "E" or the "PH". It actually took me several seconds to figure out what you were attempting to say. Maybe we better stick to two syllables from now on, hmmm?? ;)
Further, they started using decimals around 3000b.c. In biblical times decimals most certainly WERE around.
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 10:47 PM
Hmm...I'm the dense one, yet you have managed to spell "emphatic" without the "E" or the "PH". It actually took me several seconds to figure out what you were attempting to say. Maybe we better stick to two syllables from now on, hmmm?? ;)
Further, they started using decimals around 3000b.c. In biblical times decimals most certainly WERE around.
Congrats to you, 2 spelling errors and technicallity. It's a none issue, the point is that 6 is as close to 7 as you can get, decimals not included. it's like being in 2nd place, it only makes you the first place loser, get it? saying it 3 times makes it as emphatic as you can get. thus, 666, as close to perfect as you can get without being there, decimals not included. 1st place loser's.
Further, they started using decimals around 3000b.c. In biblical times decimals most certainly WERE around.
Congrats to you, 2 spelling errors and technicallity. It's a none issue, the point is that 6 is as close to 7 as you can get, decimals not included. it's like being in 2nd place, it only makes you the first place loser, get it? saying it 3 times makes it as emphatic as you can get. thus, 666, as close to perfect as you can get without being there, decimals not included. 1st place loser's.
boingo82
08-06-2004, 11:11 PM
Congrats to you, 2 spelling errors and technicallity. It's a none issue, the point is that 6 is as close to 7 as you can get, decimals not included. it's like being in 2nd place, it only makes you the first place loser, get it? saying it 3 times makes it as emphatic as you can get. thus, 666, as close to perfect as you can get without being there, decimals not included. 1st place loser's.
I am failing to see how "almost perfect but not quite" is equal to "the EVIL EVIL MARK OF SATAN".
Don't think for one second that you only had that spelling error...I only pointed it out because it was the dumbest.
I am failing to see how "almost perfect but not quite" is equal to "the EVIL EVIL MARK OF SATAN".
Don't think for one second that you only had that spelling error...I only pointed it out because it was the dumbest.
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 11:18 PM
I am failing to see how "almost perfect but not quite" is equal to "the EVIL EVIL MARK OF SATAN".
Don't think for one second that you only had that spelling error...I only pointed it out because it was the dumbest.
Well, you remind of a friend I have. Anyway, I was just explaining the history behind the number. I look at my post a little closer. I also said its the mark of the beast. That's why there's so much bad karma around it. It's just a number for the moment, no hex's. I would of thought someone as well thought as you would of seen that part. My explaination is just why that number was used. So, really its "the EVIL EVIL MARK OF THE BEAST", not satan
Don't think for one second that you only had that spelling error...I only pointed it out because it was the dumbest.
Well, you remind of a friend I have. Anyway, I was just explaining the history behind the number. I look at my post a little closer. I also said its the mark of the beast. That's why there's so much bad karma around it. It's just a number for the moment, no hex's. I would of thought someone as well thought as you would of seen that part. My explaination is just why that number was used. So, really its "the EVIL EVIL MARK OF THE BEAST", not satan
kcap122
08-06-2004, 11:23 PM
ok i think what is trying to be said here is this:
Assume for a moment that 7 is the "perfect number." For whatever reason, if its prime or whatever. The closest tangible number (integer) to 7 is 6. Why not 8? Because if 7 is God's number (i.e. 7 days of creation), then 8 would be a number higher than God and therefore could not exist for the purposes of this discussion.
If we go by this whole superstitious Saying Things Three Times Makes Them Magic theory, 777 would be the Magic Perfect Number. Accordingly, 666 would be a 3x repetition of the number CLOSEST to being the most powerful/perfect (7). So, 666 really is a way of saying something that tries to be God, but can never be perfect and thereby fails. Maybe this translates to the devil or something?
my :2cents:
Assume for a moment that 7 is the "perfect number." For whatever reason, if its prime or whatever. The closest tangible number (integer) to 7 is 6. Why not 8? Because if 7 is God's number (i.e. 7 days of creation), then 8 would be a number higher than God and therefore could not exist for the purposes of this discussion.
If we go by this whole superstitious Saying Things Three Times Makes Them Magic theory, 777 would be the Magic Perfect Number. Accordingly, 666 would be a 3x repetition of the number CLOSEST to being the most powerful/perfect (7). So, 666 really is a way of saying something that tries to be God, but can never be perfect and thereby fails. Maybe this translates to the devil or something?
my :2cents:
NavyFord18
08-06-2004, 11:29 PM
ok i think what is trying to be said here is this:
Assume for a moment that 7 is the "perfect number." For whatever reason, if its prime or whatever. The closest tangible number (integer) to 7 is 6. Why not 8? Because if 7 is God's number (i.e. 7 days of creation), then 8 would be a number higher than God and therefore could not exist for the purposes of this discussion.
If we go by this whole superstitious Saying Things Three Times Makes Them Magic theory, 777 would be the Magic Perfect Number. Accordingly, 666 would be a 3x repetition of the number CLOSEST to being the most powerful/perfect (7). So, 666 really is a way of saying something that tries to be God, but can never be perfect and thereby fails. Maybe this translates to the devil or something?
my :2cents:
Thank you kcap122, that's the closest anyone has gotten to what I'm saying. Satan betrayed God b/c he wanted to be higher than God. But he never got there. Also, being almost perfect is pretty bad. Like half a truth is worse than a lie. Think about it. If saying almost the truth is worse than not saying the truth at all, wouldn't the same be true here?
Assume for a moment that 7 is the "perfect number." For whatever reason, if its prime or whatever. The closest tangible number (integer) to 7 is 6. Why not 8? Because if 7 is God's number (i.e. 7 days of creation), then 8 would be a number higher than God and therefore could not exist for the purposes of this discussion.
If we go by this whole superstitious Saying Things Three Times Makes Them Magic theory, 777 would be the Magic Perfect Number. Accordingly, 666 would be a 3x repetition of the number CLOSEST to being the most powerful/perfect (7). So, 666 really is a way of saying something that tries to be God, but can never be perfect and thereby fails. Maybe this translates to the devil or something?
my :2cents:
Thank you kcap122, that's the closest anyone has gotten to what I'm saying. Satan betrayed God b/c he wanted to be higher than God. But he never got there. Also, being almost perfect is pretty bad. Like half a truth is worse than a lie. Think about it. If saying almost the truth is worse than not saying the truth at all, wouldn't the same be true here?
Soyo
08-07-2004, 01:28 AM
its not a curse... its just a sign for the devil basically... being scared of a number is retarded
NeonAtron
08-07-2004, 09:21 AM
ok i get ya. so if you see it in life its just coincidence and i should have slapped that little girl for being scared (makin me read 2 whole pages)
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Hyatus
08-07-2004, 11:23 AM
ETA of thread being closed 1 hour
MagicRat
08-07-2004, 06:12 PM
ok i get ya. so if you see it in life its just coincidence and i should have slapped that little girl for being scared (makin me read 2 whole pages)
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Reading is good for you.
I suspect that girl is a prissy self-centered attention hound, rather than being afflicted with irrational fears.
Different cultures fear specific numbers for a reason. Many Chinese are afraid of the number 4 because in Cantonese (or Mandarin not sure) the word for four sounds a lot like their word for death. Its common for Chinese people, at least here, to refusehaving a licence plate or street address with the number 4 in it.
As for the Christian west, 13 is unlucky because of...the Last Supper, maybe? (the 13th person betrayed Christ?)
Personally I find this interesting from a sociological and cultural point of view. To be afraid of a number seems to me to be a sign of mental disability.
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Reading is good for you.
I suspect that girl is a prissy self-centered attention hound, rather than being afflicted with irrational fears.
Different cultures fear specific numbers for a reason. Many Chinese are afraid of the number 4 because in Cantonese (or Mandarin not sure) the word for four sounds a lot like their word for death. Its common for Chinese people, at least here, to refusehaving a licence plate or street address with the number 4 in it.
As for the Christian west, 13 is unlucky because of...the Last Supper, maybe? (the 13th person betrayed Christ?)
Personally I find this interesting from a sociological and cultural point of view. To be afraid of a number seems to me to be a sign of mental disability.
landyacht
08-07-2004, 09:57 PM
Assume for a moment that 7 is the "perfect number." For whatever reason, if its prime or whatever. The closest tangible number (integer) to 7 is 6. Why not 8? Because if 7 is God's number (i.e. 7 days of creation), then 8 would be a number higher than God and therefore could not exist for the purposes of this discussion.
If we go by this whole superstitious Saying Things Three Times Makes Them Magic theory, 777 would be the Magic Perfect Number. Accordingly, 666 would be a 3x repetition of the number CLOSEST to being the most powerful/perfect (7). So, 666 really is a way of saying something that tries to be God, but can never be perfect and thereby fails. Maybe this translates to the devil or something?
This is basically what i was going to say, since nobody seemed to be able to hit the nail on the head.
its not a curse... its just a sign for the devil basically... being scared of a number is retarded
It's not the number that people are afraid of, it's what the number represents that people are afraid of, it's the connection between the evils that make people leary.
so if you see it in life its just coincidence
It's not always coincidence, unfortunately people write it on purpose without truly understanding what they're doing. Should it occur in a book for example, it's not intended so there's no evil nature that people should fear. Again, it's by association that people react to it.
I think if you slap her, someone will kick your butt from here to there so i don't recommend it. Not trying to be smart, i'm looking out for your interests.
If we go by this whole superstitious Saying Things Three Times Makes Them Magic theory, 777 would be the Magic Perfect Number. Accordingly, 666 would be a 3x repetition of the number CLOSEST to being the most powerful/perfect (7). So, 666 really is a way of saying something that tries to be God, but can never be perfect and thereby fails. Maybe this translates to the devil or something?
This is basically what i was going to say, since nobody seemed to be able to hit the nail on the head.
its not a curse... its just a sign for the devil basically... being scared of a number is retarded
It's not the number that people are afraid of, it's what the number represents that people are afraid of, it's the connection between the evils that make people leary.
so if you see it in life its just coincidence
It's not always coincidence, unfortunately people write it on purpose without truly understanding what they're doing. Should it occur in a book for example, it's not intended so there's no evil nature that people should fear. Again, it's by association that people react to it.
I think if you slap her, someone will kick your butt from here to there so i don't recommend it. Not trying to be smart, i'm looking out for your interests.
DGB454
08-08-2004, 08:24 AM
Soyo
08-10-2004, 08:40 PM
another "7" in rev. that I didn't happen to see mentioned on that page is the 7 angels with the 7 bowls of God's wrath... I posted about this section in the thread about how the earth will end if you wanna look at it
EDIT: I also liked the part about "8" didn't read everything to have an opinion on the whole page though, but interesting stuff
EDIT: I also liked the part about "8" didn't read everything to have an opinion on the whole page though, but interesting stuff
big1
08-11-2004, 07:43 AM
It's three time's the number of man. The mark of the beast.
It's told in the bible that anyone having this mark does the work of satan. Depending on how you interpret the writing's it may not have to be the actual number 666. Many believed that the arm tattoo's given the Jew's in world war two where the mark of satan.
The mark is supposedly on the head, but the true Hebrew translation say's the hand or head.
It's told in the bible that anyone having this mark does the work of satan. Depending on how you interpret the writing's it may not have to be the actual number 666. Many believed that the arm tattoo's given the Jew's in world war two where the mark of satan.
The mark is supposedly on the head, but the true Hebrew translation say's the hand or head.
NavyFord18
08-11-2004, 11:51 AM
It's three time's the number of man. The mark of the beast.
It's told in the bible that anyone having this mark does the work of satan. Depending on how you interpret the writing's it may not have to be the actual number 666. Many believed that the arm tattoo's given the Jew's in world war two where the mark of satan.
The mark is supposedly on the head, but the true Hebrew translation say's the hand or head.
It's a little premature for that, dude. Read a little more, it also say's that it's during the tribulation. That's the only time it's got hex's on it or anything, not now. unless your one of those people who believe the tribulation's already happened, in which case you need help.
It's told in the bible that anyone having this mark does the work of satan. Depending on how you interpret the writing's it may not have to be the actual number 666. Many believed that the arm tattoo's given the Jew's in world war two where the mark of satan.
The mark is supposedly on the head, but the true Hebrew translation say's the hand or head.
It's a little premature for that, dude. Read a little more, it also say's that it's during the tribulation. That's the only time it's got hex's on it or anything, not now. unless your one of those people who believe the tribulation's already happened, in which case you need help.
DGB454
08-11-2004, 11:54 AM
I don't believe that tattoo's given to the Jews was the mark. That would mean that those people would have taken the mark by choice. Also that would mean that they would have been in the last 7 years before the end.
The placement of the mark could be figurative. On the head could mean in the mind. On the hand could mean in their labor. Interpretation is open.
The placement of the mark could be figurative. On the head could mean in the mind. On the hand could mean in their labor. Interpretation is open.
lamehonda
08-11-2004, 01:03 PM
I think that the purpose of the number 666 will be more clear when they start slapping them on peoples heads, beyond that I don't thing there is anything wrong with the number itself
big1
08-11-2004, 06:24 PM
"Navyford" I didn't say that the time was now. What I said was that some people thought that during world war 2 it was the tribulation.
War's and rumor's of war's, all that stuff.
'DGB" That's a good interpretation, and a real fine "Chevy" you've got there.
War's and rumor's of war's, all that stuff.
'DGB" That's a good interpretation, and a real fine "Chevy" you've got there.
DGB454
08-12-2004, 05:27 AM
Thanks
big1
08-12-2004, 07:59 AM
I'm a Ford man myself, but I can truely appreciate a classic like your's.
NavyFord18
08-16-2004, 05:21 AM
I'm a Ford man myself, but I can truely appreciate a classic like your's.
What the hell are you talking about.
What the hell are you talking about.
lamehonda
08-16-2004, 02:16 PM
To bring this back to context:
What big1 is saying:
ford=777
chevy=666
What big1 is saying:
ford=777
chevy=666
DGB454
08-16-2004, 02:31 PM
Chevy should be 888 shouldn't it?
:)
:)
lamehonda
08-16-2004, 02:44 PM
why not 999 then?
NavyFord18
08-16-2004, 04:39 PM
Chevy should be 888 shouldn't it?
:)
Don't get me started, I'd put it at -999 if I could...
:)
Don't get me started, I'd put it at -999 if I could...
Soyo
08-17-2004, 11:02 PM
888 is mazda, sorry :)
long live the rotary!!!
long live the rotary!!!
TheScientist
08-18-2004, 12:52 AM
This topic reminds me of the Exorcists movies. Great movies, cant wait to see the one coming out.
big1
08-18-2004, 07:39 AM
jmrev
09-02-2004, 11:50 AM
"There was a time in the history of the Christian Church when the devil, Beelzebub or Satan, the king of evil, was as real and forceful a figure as for a diminishing number of people 'God' still is today; a creation of the Jews and early Christians to give substance in half-human, half-bestial form to the wickedness they saw about them. Later Christians came to recognise that this was a fantasy figure with no basis in reality and quietly discarded him."
—"All in the Mind—A Farewell to God," by Ludovic Kennedy.
AS WRITER and broadcaster Ludovic Kennedy states, for centuries no one in Christendom doubted the reality of the Devil. Rather, Christians were at times "obsessed by the power of Satan and his demons," as Professor Norman Cohn puts it. (Europe's Inner Demons) This obsession was not limited to simple, uneducated peasants. The belief that the Devil materialized in the form of an animal to preside over evil and obscene rituals, for example, "belonged not to the folklore of the illiterate majority, but, on the contrary, to the worldview of the intellectual elite," says Professor Cohn. This "intellectual elite"—including learned clerics—was responsible for the witch-hunts that swept through Europe from the 15th to the 17th century, when church and civil authorities are said to have tortured and killed about 50,000 alleged witches.
Not surprisingly, many have rejected what they consider to be wild, superstitious notions about the Devil. Even back in 1726, Daniel Defoe derided people's belief that the Devil was a frightful monster "with bat's wings, horns, cloven foot, long tail, forked tongue, and the like." Such ideas, he said, were "weak fancied trifles" manufactured by "devil-raisers and devil-makers" who "cheated the ignorant world with a devil of their own making."
Is that how you see things? Do you agree that "the devil is in reality man's invention to account for his own sinfulness"? That statement appears in The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, and many who profess to be Christians think that way. Christendom's theologians, says Jeffrey Burton Russell, have by and large "dismissed the Devil and the demons as superstitious relics."
Yet, to some people, the Devil is very real. They reason that there must be some kind of superhuman, malignant force behind the recurrent evils that pervade man's history. "The horrors that the twentieth century has produced," says Russell, provide one reason why "belief in the Devil, after a long lapse, is rapidly reappearing." According to author Don Lewis, a number of modern, educated people who "smile patronisingly" at the superstitious beliefs and fears of "their artless ancestors" are "once again becoming enthralled by the evil element in the supernatural."—Religious Superstition Through the Ages
—"All in the Mind—A Farewell to God," by Ludovic Kennedy.
AS WRITER and broadcaster Ludovic Kennedy states, for centuries no one in Christendom doubted the reality of the Devil. Rather, Christians were at times "obsessed by the power of Satan and his demons," as Professor Norman Cohn puts it. (Europe's Inner Demons) This obsession was not limited to simple, uneducated peasants. The belief that the Devil materialized in the form of an animal to preside over evil and obscene rituals, for example, "belonged not to the folklore of the illiterate majority, but, on the contrary, to the worldview of the intellectual elite," says Professor Cohn. This "intellectual elite"—including learned clerics—was responsible for the witch-hunts that swept through Europe from the 15th to the 17th century, when church and civil authorities are said to have tortured and killed about 50,000 alleged witches.
Not surprisingly, many have rejected what they consider to be wild, superstitious notions about the Devil. Even back in 1726, Daniel Defoe derided people's belief that the Devil was a frightful monster "with bat's wings, horns, cloven foot, long tail, forked tongue, and the like." Such ideas, he said, were "weak fancied trifles" manufactured by "devil-raisers and devil-makers" who "cheated the ignorant world with a devil of their own making."
Is that how you see things? Do you agree that "the devil is in reality man's invention to account for his own sinfulness"? That statement appears in The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, and many who profess to be Christians think that way. Christendom's theologians, says Jeffrey Burton Russell, have by and large "dismissed the Devil and the demons as superstitious relics."
Yet, to some people, the Devil is very real. They reason that there must be some kind of superhuman, malignant force behind the recurrent evils that pervade man's history. "The horrors that the twentieth century has produced," says Russell, provide one reason why "belief in the Devil, after a long lapse, is rapidly reappearing." According to author Don Lewis, a number of modern, educated people who "smile patronisingly" at the superstitious beliefs and fears of "their artless ancestors" are "once again becoming enthralled by the evil element in the supernatural."—Religious Superstition Through the Ages
DGB454
09-02-2004, 01:40 PM
I don't see satan as some winged evil looking creature. In fact I don't see satan at all. As a Christian I know he is real but not because others have told me so and not because I have had run ins with him. I know he is real because Christ said he is. I think that's how most Christians feel.
big1
09-02-2004, 05:18 PM
I find it hard to believe that a person could believe in one without the other.
landyacht
09-04-2004, 03:34 PM
DGB454
I agree...more or less.
I agree...more or less.
jmrev
10-01-2004, 12:25 AM
I don't see satan as some winged evil looking creature. In fact I don't see satan at all. As a Christian I know he is real but not because others have told me so and not because I have had run ins with him. I know he is real because Christ said he is. I think that's how most Christians feel.
we now satan is real, or else we wouldnt be in the situation were are in now! meaning we are not perfect.
we now satan is real, or else we wouldnt be in the situation were are in now! meaning we are not perfect.
Damien
10-02-2004, 03:46 PM
if a(b+c+d) = ab+ac+ad then variably 6(9+9+9) 69+69+69 = :naughty:
Ok, bad attempt but the Mark of the Beast, meh. I know it's out there and I know of the Revelations and all this but all the random 666 is BS. Like pages in a book, hotel room numbers, etc. Something to think about though...look on barcodes and look at the first, niddle, and last number. Should be 666 on most. You can tell 'cause 2 thin lines next to each other represents 6.
I'll try and find the site if i can...
Ok, bad attempt but the Mark of the Beast, meh. I know it's out there and I know of the Revelations and all this but all the random 666 is BS. Like pages in a book, hotel room numbers, etc. Something to think about though...look on barcodes and look at the first, niddle, and last number. Should be 666 on most. You can tell 'cause 2 thin lines next to each other represents 6.
I'll try and find the site if i can...
NeonAtron
10-04-2004, 11:52 AM
if a(b+c+d) = ab+ac+ad then variably 6(9+9+9) 69+69+69 = :naughty:
Ok, bad attempt but the Mark of the Beast, meh. I know it's out there and I know of the Revelations and all this but all the random 666 is BS. Like pages in a book, hotel room numbers, etc. Something to think about though...look on barcodes and look at the first, niddle, and last number. Should be 666 on most. You can tell 'cause 2 thin lines next to each other represents 6.
I'll try and find the site if i can...
ur just trying to scare me now :grinno:
Ok, bad attempt but the Mark of the Beast, meh. I know it's out there and I know of the Revelations and all this but all the random 666 is BS. Like pages in a book, hotel room numbers, etc. Something to think about though...look on barcodes and look at the first, niddle, and last number. Should be 666 on most. You can tell 'cause 2 thin lines next to each other represents 6.
I'll try and find the site if i can...
ur just trying to scare me now :grinno:
youngvr4
10-04-2004, 12:01 PM
the beast will controll the world, he will be givin breath and will kill any who don't worship him
anyone with the mark of the beast on there hands or foreheads may buy sell and trade.
anyone without it can not.
"here is wisdom. let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of man: his number is 666."
revalations 13:18
there is no reason to fear the number 666 in any other way or form.
its just that some take it as a sign that whatever they see 666 on is bad.
god does many things in 7 and also 3's, but on the 7th day he rested. and this is then gods number. and it is also in revalations that in and around his throne are things in the number 7
anyone with the mark of the beast on there hands or foreheads may buy sell and trade.
anyone without it can not.
"here is wisdom. let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of man: his number is 666."
revalations 13:18
there is no reason to fear the number 666 in any other way or form.
its just that some take it as a sign that whatever they see 666 on is bad.
god does many things in 7 and also 3's, but on the 7th day he rested. and this is then gods number. and it is also in revalations that in and around his throne are things in the number 7
Joseph1082
10-14-2004, 09:45 PM
Theory I have heard: In the future digital age, we'll exist w/o paper money anymore. All transaction will be digital, like credit card/ debit card transactions. In order to buy, sell, trade, etc, you will need your all-encompassing "card" which will be a chip implanted in your hand, it ID code will be three groups of six numbers each. W/o you wouldn't be able to purchase a slurpee at 7-11!
jmrev
10-15-2004, 06:31 PM
:wtf: are you talking about? ^^^^
crayzayjay
10-18-2004, 09:23 AM
The other night i won a considerable amount of money after a poker night with a group of friends, bankrupting each of them one after the other. Upon counting the money, i realised that it came to £666 exactly. I immediately burnt all the money as it was a clear message from God not to gamble.
So remember kids, 666 really is the Devil's number. If you want to burn any money you would have spent gambling with friends, send it to me and i will gladly do it for you :)
So remember kids, 666 really is the Devil's number. If you want to burn any money you would have spent gambling with friends, send it to me and i will gladly do it for you :)
Oz
10-18-2004, 06:32 PM
Anyone who has really enjoyed this thread should go and read 2 books by author Dan Brown. The first is Angel's and Demon's and the second is The DaVinci Code.
jmrev
10-18-2004, 07:48 PM
you burned sixhundred and sixtysix dollars!!!!! wow that takes balls, i dont think i would of done that, i might of taken precautions that day but never burned my money, Did you really do that? :feedback:
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