Could it be? The F60?

Oh, many cars call wings spoilers, for some reason. But then the line gets blurred, as many cars don't have effective wings.

But ALL cars now have spoilers. Look at the back of any car, I did today. From Fireflys to Minivans to corvettes to Ferrari 550's, all cars have them, because they work. Most aren't very defined though, but then they don't need to be.

Actually not all cars have spoilers. Maybe my G20 is unique, but I can't see one back there (even a subtle one). By the way, the F60 looks like the bat-mobile...really ugly. Sorry to all you that like it (my reply probably doesn't mean much) but Ferrari could have done much better. I hope the spy photos depict a car that is actually disguised. F355 and 360 are MUCH better looking cars!

:rolleyes: Other way around guys, if you have air moving quickly over the top of the car you have downforce. Higher air velocity equals higher air pressure (density) relative to the bottom of the car with lower velocity air and lower pressure. A wing on a car works the same way, it is a inverted airplane wing, fast air over the top and slow under, the reverse of a airplanes wing where air moves faster under the wing than over the wing to create lift.

just clearing things up :)

-Ian

Oh and spoilers are lips on the trunkdeck or sometimes on the top of the rear windshield, these work to aerodynamically "flatten" the top of the car to increase air speed over the top of the car lessening lift created by the nature shape of all cars. Airdams work in a similar way but on the bottom of the car, they block (dam) air from getting under the car and lowering the air pressure under the car, rear diffusers and special underbody design like on the 360 also helps with this. Wings are simply inverted airplane wings creating downforce; thats the main difference, wings actually produce downforce while spoilers attempt to "spoil" (lessen) the lift created by the shape of the car. (Which has the same cross-sectional profile as the common airplane wing.)

-Ian

ian840 needs to go back to grade 9 science. The faster the air, the lower the pressure. The slower the air, the higher the pressure.
Dont belive me?? Fine, put some straws flat on the table, put two pop cans standing up (empty) on the straws. Then blow between them. They will get sucked together.
This is why cars want to "fly" They are shaped like airplane wings (more or less)

Yes I stand corrected about air pressure, thats what happens when you try to explain something at 3am after being out all night at bars with your friends... hah... anyways here is a good page explaining airfoils, long but comprehensive.

http://www.amasci.com/wing/airfoil.html

-Ian

Originally posted by Chris
Fine, put some straws flat on the table, put two pop cans standing up (empty) on the straws. Then blow between them. They will get sucked together.
This is why cars want to "fly" They are shaped like airplane wings (more or less)

whoa, mr. experiment scientist!! :D :D :hehehe:

LOL :D

Hey, I'm getting 93 in Science!

But it is easy, and it proves the point.

Originally posted by Chris
Hey, I'm getting 93 in Science!


stop bragging!!!!!


i'm probably in like the 30s :rolleyes:

i gotta get to work

I'm only taking biology this year and i'm dropping all science next year, what the hell do i need science for?! i don't need it at all for business. I think all we need is 3 science credits

What grade are you in?? I only need grade 9 and 10.

Originally posted by Chris
What grade are you in?? I only need grade 9 and 10.

As do I. We got our Physics marks the other day, mine was a whopping 61.7% I practically flipped out at my teacher (Considering he said I had a 75%!) and i found out that he forgot to add like ten things to my opverall mark sheet. So my mark is actually like an 80-83%

I have physics next semester, its chemistry right now.

Do any Ontarioins here have University math?? Our class average is 59, but I have the second highest.

i take university/college math. We use the same text books as you the University math, the only thing different is that the teachers explain more and we don't do as many of the harder questions.... and i'm still failing my ass in that class too :mad:

I'm in gr.11
I'm pretty sure every student in Ontario needs atleast 3 science credits
you need gr9 and 10 science plus another one that could be like physics, biology, chemistry.... maybe some others too

Oh, I dont really care about those extra mandatory credits, I got them all. I'm in grade 11 too, kinda neat, huh.
Can't help but laugh that someone posted the literacy test on the net, though:hehehe:

yeah, hahaha

that pissed me off though!!! :angryfire
i didn't get to sleep in those days... so i skipped 1 of the days to show'em who's boss :D :D

LOL last year i missed like 150 classes, hahaha

that would add up to like a month off school, or more :D

If I misbehave in class and my parents find out, they go nuts!! They think if I get kicked out, I'm going to turn into bum. Oh well:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Chris
If I misbehave in class and my parents find out, they go nuts!! They think if I get kicked out, I'm going to turn into bum. Oh well:rolleyes:

are your parents nazis or something?!? :) holy strict... do you have a curfew?


btw, how'd you get all those credits if only 1 science is offered in gr 9 and 1 in gr 10?

I remember looking at the sheet, seeing what I needed to take. I was happy because I had everything I needed (this was when I planned my gr. 11 courses, if I fail one I may not have the mandatory ones)

Originally posted by gang$tarr
i take university/college math. We use the same text books as you the University math, the only thing different is that the teachers explain more and we don't do as many of the harder questions.... and i'm still failing my ass in that class too :mad:

I'm in gr.11
I'm pretty sure every student in Ontario needs atleast 3 science credits
you need gr9 and 10 science plus another one that could be like physics, biology, chemistry.... maybe some others too

Hehe I can relate to this, I'm also in Gr. 11.

I be taking (This semester)

University English: 80ish %
University not UC Math: 83 %
Physic: 80 ish %
Ancient History up to the 16th Century: Like a 98% I know my history.


I passed the Literacy test, I find it hilarious that someone put it on the net. I also never miss class (Intentionally) and also find Math to be very hard, If you care Chris or Gan$tarr, my current assignment in Math is Pg. 300. I also hate the new amrking system ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 4++) I hate it!

I also hate rubrics:mad:
My math is 79 (lasst year it was 94, last years highest was 98, shes getting 85 this year)
My other classes:
Chemistry: 93
Accounting: 95
Computer Engineering: 94

Next semester:
Physics, Law, English, Computer Science.

i hate you all....



get some bad marks, it won't kill you :)

have any of you guys failed classes?

btw my school isn't semestered so i take all 7 courses year round

I'm taking:

Marketing - pass
Accounting - pass
Entrepreneurial Studies - pass
U/C Math - fail
University English (easy) - pass
Biology (only because i gotta take a science) - unsure
Auto - pass (ofcourse :) )
Spare

those are my predictions :D

Originally posted by gang$tarr
have any of you guys failed classes?I have, in college. I like re-taking the class with the same teacher. :D I already know all the answers. :lol2:

Originally posted by jay@af
I have, in college. I like re-taking the class with the same teacher. :D I already know all the answers. :lol2:

it's good to know that somebody else has failed classes..... seems like everybody here is a grade A student :rolleyes: lol :D

My biggest incentive is that I want lots of money to buy..... Lots of cars!:)

Originally posted by Chris
My biggest incentive is that I want lots of money to buy..... Lots of cars!:)

you see, i think about that too... but i just can't bring myself to actually do the work, i'm too damn lazy

If school was only in school, then i'd be doing sooooo good
I just never do homework/assignments, stuff outta school

I hear ya gangsta....

hah im on here right now instead of reading economics...oh well :rolleyes:

Ian

During Comp. Eng, I'm usually here. I do that work at home (its easy, anyway, and wer get tons of time to do simple stuff)

i failed that class last year... you bastard :)
WORST CLASS EVER! logic gates, boolean algebera... all that circuit stuff :apuke:
it's the reason i have no computer classes this year, that class made me hate computers

i was doin good till half way through the year, when we switched teachers for some reason, and this teacher was a fuckin jackass, i ended up not goin to like the last month of that class

Man, our teacher is EASY!!
Since our school is being renovated, we cant do some stuff, so its mostly learning the written stuff. So I go to AF:)

Can someone remind me what this has to do with the F60?:p

Snowboarder927- Nice new sig picture:) I like your thinking;)

Well, this has to do with the F60 by

Thanks, i found the pic and added that last part. my friends brother got a blue WRX yesterday. i'm so jealous!

I thought that the F60 wasn't suppose to compete with the records, it isn't designed to be breaking records, but it is suppose to be a very entertaining ferrari. So yeah, the bugatti is a very fast with huge performance, but i think it don't handle as good on corners like it was said before. And I do remind me, that the F60 is getting a adjusting diffuser wich adjust its shape according to the speeds.

BTW, isn't a ferrari suppose to be a car, wich you can drive everyday to your work, and if you want to, take it to the track and with minimal adjustments to win the race, right?

Yup, they are meant to be race-cars for the street, although that has been lost in recent examples (456, 550, etc), with only a few being true to that example (360, F50, etc). The new F60 should be amazing, it should blow almost everything away.

I mean, put the F60 and Veyron on the Nurburgring and you must know who's gonna win...... but that's just not realistic cause both aren't tested yet

I cant wait until they're tested, it will be a very happy day for me:)

hmmmmmmmm i'm seeing a McLaren F1, a F40, F50, F60, Veyron and a Koenisseg ( what else did a forget ) on the Ring and let them race!!!

We already talked about his, and it would be awesome if someone could get all of them together. I think the 8 minute barrier would be broken on teh first lap!!

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx

BTW, isn't a ferrari suppose to be a car, wich you can drive everyday to your work,

Ferrari isn't known for their reliability :)

if you drive one everyday to work expect LOTS of repairs..... but the race car part is right :D

so you're from holland :) marijuana is legal there, that's cool :)

marijuana is legal there, that's cool

hell yeah :smoka:

Originally posted by gang$tarr
Ferrari isn't known for their reliability :)

if you drive one everyday to work expect LOTS of repairs not so my canadian friend. while i was at the Ferrari dealership for my birthday, i talked to the mechanic and he said that the only cars that they have to do major repairs on, are the ones that are never driven and only have 14 miles on them. those cars are made to be driven, and they'll give you a bugger of a time if you don't drive them how they want to be driven.

Anyone who owns old cars can tell you, if it sits too long, stuff just breaks. So drive it, keep all the parts moving and used, and it will work fine. Now, at least. In the past, it may have been different.

And lets not forget the 250 Ferraris. They were driven to places like LeMans, and the Tour de France. They raced, then drove home. Tell me one other car that can drive flat-out for 24 hours, then be driven home.

Ah the 250's. You could drive them to the track, annihilate the competition, then drive home. It doesn't get much better than that.

MBTN, i like your avatar and especially that pic in your sig, where did you get it?

Originally posted by snowboarder927
not so my canadian friend. while i was at the Ferrari dealership for my birthday, i talked to the mechanic and he said that the only cars that they have to do major repairs on, are the ones that are never driven and only have 14 miles on them. those cars are made to be driven, and they'll give you a bugger of a time if you don't drive them how they want to be driven.

ofcourse... if you just let a car sit for a long time the parts are gunna get bad, and it'll be a shock for the engine to run hard again
But if you just drive it on weekends that's fine, that keeps the parts moving enough... if you drove one every day, expect problems :) Not huge problems, but still costly

If you have enough money to buy a ferrari, why don't you drive it every day? :)

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
If you have enough money to buy a ferrari, why don't you drive it every day? :)

cause you have other cars to drive :) If you're around a big city and you have to go to work in rush hour traffic, inching along at around 5mph you don't wanna be driving the Ferrari. Plus you'd be scared just parking it and leaving it... The weekdays are for the Rolls or Benz... hehe :D

any updates on the F60 yet?

Not that i know of, the last i heard from one of the guys at Ferrari was that it was going to be released early next year (this was in 2001) and that they haven't even decided on a name. the possible names were the F60, Enzo and the FX i think. but i'm pretty sure it will be called the F60.

notice, there's no huge wing on the rear

Notice how hideous it looks. I REALLY hope that isn't the F60.:(

no joking man. check ferrari.it

Maranello, April 16th 2002 – The design prototype of the Ferrari “FX” – this being the production code of this limited series model which carries on the tradition of the F40 and F50 – will debut at the “Artedinamica: Ferrari and Maserati at the Contemporary Art Museum of Tokyo” international Exhibition. The official inauguration will be on April 26th; from April 27th to July 14th the Exhibition will be open to the public.

The Ferrari FX, which will officially be presented at the Paris Auto Show on September 26th, will bring to the road Ferrari’s most advanced technology, directly derived from the Formula 1 World Championship experience. The FX represents the ultimate expression of technological transfer from F1 to Ferrari’s road-going GTs, the conception of which has always benefited.

FX OR F60?? http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=41666

hihihi, i was earlier, just joking

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
notice, there's no huge wing on the rear
no?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/807875newferrari_2002.jpg

check the official foto, and that one is not the official press material

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
hihihi, i was earlier, just joking
I post: 04-16-2002 09:09 PM :cool:
You post: 04-16-2002 12:10 PM :rolleyes:

ok wich topic was that, cuz i'm refering to this one http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t41666.html
but anyways, the real 'FX' don't have a rear spoiler a seen on the official photo