turbos

well im lookin to turboing my smallblock... i dont know jack shit about them... i wanted to know what are some good turbos and what will give me the best bang for my buck.. im lookin into the twin turbo setup but not sre which turbos to go with...the bottom end is built to handle them... and not sure how high i should go with my boost... and help is appreicated thanks

www.bbsdesigns.net remember it from ebay? i think it should work good, is yours a z28 or rs?

neither its a sport coupe.. and that turbo kit looks sweet dude

thanks no problem

but the pics of the cars with them installed are only running one....wonder how much the single kit costs

i have no idea i was interested in turbo charging my camaro also but i found lots of nice upg's about the same price and it will add more hp than a turbo...

yea i dunno if i wanna go single or twin now... fuck...

this is lookin nice...
http://www.bbsdesigns.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/scstore/p-KIT0001.html?L+scstore+kskd1491ff9c3d9c+1091422965

this is lookin nice...
http://www.bbsdesigns.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.100.exe/scstore/p-KIT0001.html?L+scstore+kskd1491ff9c3d9c+1091422965
ya it does, im curious if it would work on 4th gens though...

hmmm it says it not guarenteed to work on 1st 2nd and 4th gens but it doesnt say that it wont work.... i dunno.. depends how crammed it is.....

"Turbo system is designed for SBC 3rd gen F-body cars, do not guarantee that will fit 1st, 2nd or 4th gen F-body or any other SBC car. For cars with alternator located in passengers side, must run a shorter alternator belt. Serpentine belt equiped cars (with A/C compressor mounted on passenger's side) need to modify"

if u look at an lt1 v8 its way more crammed than an ls1 v8 it looks like the lt1 hardly has any extra space...

lol

lol
how is it on the 3rd gen?

Screw the dual turbos just get a good setup on one turbo.

how is it on the 3rd gen?

well heres my old setup.. and as you can tell theres plenty of room
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/376000-376999/376426_4.jpg

Screw the dual turbos just get a good setup on one turbo.

yea thats what im thinkin....but i dont wanna get the one and wish i had gotten the twin ya know.... thats y im tryin to figure this out now and get some input... thanks

well heres my old setup.. and as you can tell theres plenty of room
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/376000-376999/376426_4.jpg
lol that looks like a pickup engine, there is so much space... also similar to like the old chevelles...

lol that looks like a pickup engine, there is so much space... also similar to like the old chevelles...

haha yea... that motor was cracked and jb welded... well the jb didnt hold up long.... theres actually alot of room in 3rd gens i think...

oh and i hardly ever ran the air filter

u think thats alot of room?? ill take a pic of mine tonite

u think thats alot of room?? ill take a pic of mine tonite

lmfao.. :lol:

Hahaha your lucky your engine bay is so spacious ridge, I should take a look of my TPI with all the fancy options. You cant even see the passenger side header.

Hahaha your lucky your engine bay is so spacious ridge, I should take a look of my TPI with all the fancy options. You cant even see the passenger side header.

haha.... yea i believe you man mine was crammed when the 2.8 was in it

u think thats alot of room?? ill take a pic of mine tonite
trust me i know how much the 60's ones had, my friend has a 60's cougar, and also i was about to buy a 60's chevelle once so i know how much engine space those have lol it can fit like 1 more engine in it lol

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/181078EngineBay.jpg

there ya go

it looks like a baby in a carrage...haha

the difference between twin and single turbo cars, is mainly spool time vs top end performance. twin turbos tend to be smaller and spool faster so you get less lag. a single turbo will tend to spool slower, lagging a little, but will produce more top end power. at least thats my understanding of them. but with modern turbos, lag is extreamly reduced, so a single turbo setup would probly be better.

and then here comes 89...with all the technical stuff. good to see ya around man.

lol, well pictures of engine bays will only go so far to answer that question, i had to say something productive ;) and glad to be around, till someone smacks me in the head, cleaning house cuz cat is coming out tomorrow, and the house is still a mess lol.

ii still gotta work on my car some more tonite. i got shave down the carb bracket some more so i can get my tv cable bracket on.

I with 89 pretty much. I'm getting ready to TT my new 351W and most of the Turbo kits that are reputable have moved to the single turbo set-up. With the ball bearing turbo's turbo lag has been greatly reduced, the single turbo has less parts so it can be solded a lot cheaper than a TT. The only need for TT these days especially on a V8 is if you need to make huge huge power 1000+hp.

All that said I still am going with a TT kit but I just like the look of it better in my engine bay but I don't really have a leg up on the single turbo Mustang guys and I am going to spend more.

the difference between twin and single turbo cars, is mainly spool time vs top end performance. twin turbos tend to be smaller and spool faster so you get less lag. a single turbo will tend to spool slower, lagging a little, but will produce more top end power. at least thats my understanding of them. but with modern turbos, lag is extreamly reduced, so a single turbo setup would probly be better.

ooooooooooooooo ok i got it now.... thanks man.... that makes it alot easier for me to understand... what would i do without ya...lol

Here hows this for a crammed engine bay! And thats with my washer bottle missing from the right corner.


http://public.aci.on.ca/~dober/engine.jpg

lol GTstang, your like those girls that wear heels that cut their feet up and draw blood..... but its ok cuz they are cute hahahaha :) but i agree, even if its not the best setup, TT setups are sexy on a V8.

just like cute heels are sexy on girls :evillol:

oh and no prob ridge, thought that might help ya out. but really, where is hypsi on this one?????? hes the turbo guru.

and dober, tell me about that engine bay, puttin headers in mine was a BIIIIZNATCH!! i honestly dont think you could run a turbo setup with the stock setup, youd have to custom route everything under the hood to accomodate the turbo equipment.

If you rip out the ac and the smog pump you gain alot of room on the left side, but even still you have all the dumb coolant lines from the heater core that come alongside and go through the throttle body and into the intake manifold.

oh and no prob ridge, thought that might help ya out. but really, where is hypsi on this one?????? hes the turbo guru.

and dober, tell me about that engine bay, puttin headers in mine was a BIIIIZNATCH!! i honestly dont think you could run a turbo setup with the stock setup, youd have to custom route everything under the hood to accomodate the turbo equipment.
i hope it wont be too hard whne i change my headers/ heads/ cams/ rockers, will the cams be a real pain in the ass if i dont take out my engine, but is it still possible?

hey diablo, which camaro is gettin the work done, the LT1 or LS1 ??

I think you can do it with the engine in the car but you gotta ditch the rad for sure.

lol GTstang, your like those girls that wear heels that cut their feet up and draw blood..... but its ok cuz they are cute hahahaha :) but i agree, even if its not the best setup, TT setups are sexy on a V8.

Yea but those girls still make you feel all tingly if ya know what I'm saying! LoL

My excuse is if I ever decide to invest in an R302 and run 25+psi of boost all I have to do is change the turbos cause a TT can do it easily on a V8.

Truth is like I said I will probably never do it just having one turbo doesn't look right, I need symentry dammit!!!! LoL

symmitry is good :)

symmitry is good :)

Yea it is!!!! breats and turbos need to be in 2's it's laws of nature and who am I to go agianst that! :evillol:

lmao!!!

hey diablo, which camaro is gettin the work done, the LT1 or LS1 ??
lt1

so do u think its hard to do? all those 4 w/o taking out the engine

I with 89 pretty much. I'm getting ready to TT my new 351W and most of the Turbo kits that are reputable have moved to the single turbo set-up. With the ball bearing turbo's turbo lag has been greatly reduced, the single turbo has less parts so it can be solded a lot cheaper than a TT. The only need for TT these days especially on a V8 is if you need to make huge huge power 1000+hp.

All that said I still am going with a TT kit but I just like the look of it better in my engine bay but I don't really have a leg up on the single turbo Mustang guys and I am going to spend more.

yea the tt kit is 1000 more bucks then the single.... this is going on a 383 stroker so ill already be producing some nice numbers...i just want some more umph..lol

yea, that'll be pretty quick.

hey someone answer my problem, how hard would it be to change the heads, cams, rockers, and headers in my lt1 w/o taking out the engine!?

extremely hard to do all that work without taking out the motor. And as to the person wanting to put a turbo on a 383.... why? Turbo on V8's are not the answer... superchargers are. Turbo's a very very unreliable, you need heat shields everywhere, because of the exhaust running around,they are laggy, you have to prime the oil filter everytime you change the oil or your turbos get ruined, and turbos don't last long in general. So, i ask you again... why turbos?

extremely hard to do all that work without taking out the motor. And as to the person wanting to put a turbo on a 383.... why? Turbo on V8's are not the answer... superchargers are. Turbo's a very very unreliable, you need heat shields everywhere, because of the exhaust running around,they are laggy, you have to prime the oil filter everytime you change the oil or your turbos get ruined, and turbos don't last long in general. So, i ask you again... why turbos?



20 years ago some of what you said might have had some truth to it, now its just all plain false.


Go and read some threads in the forced induction forum, and have a search of the forums. there is huge potential in turboing any engine.

The only real advantage a S/C offers is a generaly cheaper install and set up cost.

Umm... i'm a mechanic..... i see what i'm talking about all the time. Do you know what you are talking about?

Umm... i'm a mechanic.....

and this is the internet.
If your going to make broud and general statements you need to back them up.

i guess hes the only mechanic on here.

i guess hes the only mechanic on here.


Sounds like it :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

extremely hard to do all that work without taking out the motor. And as to the person wanting to put a turbo on a 383.... why? Turbo on V8's are not the answer... superchargers are. Turbo's a very very unreliable, you need heat shields everywhere, because of the exhaust running around,they are laggy, you have to prime the oil filter everytime you change the oil or your turbos get ruined, and turbos don't last long in general. So, i ask you again... why turbos?
but is it still possible to do it in less than a week? w/o the engine out?

but is it still possible to do it in less than a week? w/o the engine out?


It depends on the kit, and what parts it comes with.

Remember you have to remove and replace the exhaust manifolds, and posibly the inlet manifold.

It will also depend on your mechanical knowledge, the knowledge of those helping you, and what sort of tools and equipment you have access to.


A top quality kit, installed by a profesional mechanic with experiance dealing with the kit and the engine, and will full access to a complete work shop could go in and be running in a day.

A lower quality kit, installed by an average enthusiast with only basic tools might take 6 mnths to get running properly.

moppie you dont know what the hell your talking about. none of us do. we should all just stop posting and let mr. mechanic answer every single question. god...what the hell is wrong with you. dont you know your place in the world? :)

lmfao korndogg... well ive had a extremly rough night and its going on 7am and i just got home... well the reason im am thinking of going turbo is because everyone has superchargers man.. how often do you see a turboed v8 in a camaro?? i wanna be different and i dont want to have to worry about hood clearance like i would with some superchargers...plus i love the sound of turbos