Was this RX-7 Sandbaggin or whaaa?

Coming back home from the mall last night...i ran into this tight ass lookin (fast & the furious wannabe) RX-7. Perfect Timing we hit a red light....i looked in and he had his little oil & fuel pressure gauges all flexin ( oooh....scary!:o )....So i revved him up NASTY!!!
So like when the light turned green...i was outrooo....i looked in my rear view mirror and he was still back there...i was up like a car....dumped it in 3rd and pulled even more!!! So i just dumped it in 5th, waiting for this Beeeyatch to catch up....so i let him pass me up and we go under this tunnel....all of a sudden he switches all the way to the right...under the bridge and revs me up hard!!! I'm like...alright.....Ur gonna get a taste of this VTEC in ur face!!!:bloated:
So to make a long story short....i kicked his ass....he didn't pull on me until 4th-5th gear....is it cuz i have more juice off the line...& he has more high end power?? Or was he just messin with me???
Daaamn...sure felt good cuz his girl was laughing that he got chomped by a GIRL!!!hehe:eek:

Whaddya guys think????

i think your lying your ass off...

I'm with him. I gonna call BS on this one. :flipa:

why do people call BS? why would she lie? i would just say he was screwing with you before you call BS

i would say he was toying with.

any rx-7 pulls tough through all gears, i think this guy was just toying you, giving you a lead, then just easily catching up.

HEHE...I thought so....but it felt good for a moment...
but hey...I caught another race on the freeway the other day with this Camaro SS....it was a tough race....but i took him out by a bumper...we were going faaaast on the freeway.. i couldn't even tell how fast i was going cuz my gauges top out at 130....but we were sure enough goin faster than that!!!
I got a question....everytime I race...around 8500rpm's...my check engine sign always goeson....i had it checked out and they can't seem to find anythingwrongwith the motor...do u think it's the sensor???
What could it be???

Originally posted by SickLude
i think your lying your ass off...

Hey you know what???? Don't call me a liar cuz i was just askin a queston okay??

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
HEHE...I thought so....but it felt good for a moment...
but hey...I caught another race on the freeway the other day with this Camaro SS....it was a tough race....but i took him out by a bumper...we were going faaaast on the freeway.. i couldn't even tell how fast i was going cuz my gauges top out at 130....but we were sure enough goin faster than that!!!


what exactly do you have done to your civic? cuz something isnt right about this statement.... :confused:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC


Hey you know what???? Don't call me a liar cuz i was just askin a queston okay?? ok look, im sorry, but unless you have a large turbo, or a Vortec blower, theres no way that would have happened. oh wait. there is a way....the guy in RX-7 temporarly fell asleep during the race, which enabled you to take the lead and eventually "win"...but ill take your word for it. :rolleyes: .


deuces

Yes, since you said you smoked an SS...I demand to know what you have done to your car...

i really dont your ls_vtec can give you that much power to take on a camaro ss unless you have turbo.

But u know how freeway races are...they aren't always fair...there's all sorts of cars that get in the way...
Anyway...u wanna know what i have in my civ?

I have a 68mm Throttle body built by Erick's Racing, Type-R Headers-Exhaust (& Suspension ;) ), Del Sol Tranny, Type-R Rods & Pistons (CTR), and a vtec controller. I Only use race gas...VP Race Fuels 108 Octane!! High Compression wastes a gang of gas!..But u have to keep in mind the weight reduction in my car...the camaro was waaay heavier...and plus he had another person in there....:p i'm tellin u every little thing counts!!!

High octane gas is used to reduce the chance of detonation.:rolleyes:

Now that you have listed your mods, I have realized that both these guys were either

A) Toying with you

B)Trying to stay even with you to get a look at your face for a second (if they were male drivers)
or
C)Racing even though they had MASSIVE engine problems

Originally posted by 00accord44
C)Racing even though they had MASSIVE engine problems MASSIVE yo. unless your pushing a turbo, its not gonna happen. im sorry. someone raise the BS flag please.

deuces

eeeew....Haters up in here..

Sorry to hear that everyone is flaming on you but they have a good reason.....You're fulla $#!t You could have all the same mods, be driving on just a frame and still not have enough "weight reduction" to beat even the SS considering my friends stock 93 RX-7 will smoke an SS. Not trying to be too mean:devil: But c'mon...okay, benefit of the doubt they are prolly letting you win but please don't think that you can take on an RX-7 with that little list of mods without backing it up with a time slip or something:flipa:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
eeeew....Haters up in here.. dude, i am so not a hater. you have to realize, people on this board will tell you things your probably gonna get mad about. i dont think ive done that here, for all im doing is telling you the truth. its just not gonna happen. an SS?? give me a break. and an RX7?? never. just be kind enough to admit your defeat...


deuces

Okay...well glad u feel that way...I graciously admit my defeat, However, i felt it was worth the post...!
Don't think i have proof...i have time slips and my dyno charts, if you'd like, i'll put it up for u guys...
U have to OPEN UR BRAIN (yes for once)....and realize that I was just asking u guys a question....I wasn't claiming a win....I was just surprised by what happened....I kinda felt he was sandbaggin and so I just wanted to know what u guys thought...And now i do...so THanks! I ain't mad about what anyone says....Dude i'm always open to a well deserved loss!:D
Just don't call me anything....cuz u don't know me:finger:

Originally posted by GURLSVTEC

Don't think i have proof...i have time slips and my dyno charts, if you'd like, i'll put it up for u guys...

i'd like to see those

Originally posted by 95vteclude


i'd like to see those

no doubt! As soon as i can get it scanned....it'll be up 4 ya!;)

Peace.....

I don't doubt that you were ahead of the SS on the highway. But that's in no way because you're faster, mainly because, like yous aid you were weaving in and out of traffic.
I think its dumb to be weaving in and out of traffic while racing. Not safe. I'm sure the SS felt the same way. Why waste the gas to risk killing yourself?

If you pulled along side of me on the highway in traffic, I sure as hell wouldn't risk it. If it was open, I'd open her up and let 'er rip!

Originally posted by Blackbird01
I don't doubt that you were ahead of the SS on the highway. But that's in no way because you're faster, mainly because, like yous aid you were weaving in and out of traffic.
I think its dumb to be weaving in and out of traffic while racing. Not safe. I'm sure the SS felt the same way. Why waste the gas to risk killing yourself?

If you pulled along side of me on the highway in traffic, I sure as hell wouldn't risk it. If it was open, I'd open her up and let 'er rip!

For realz!! It was kinda scary!

well, whatever happened to the race with the rx76 and the SS u won... plain and simple... BUT i still think those cars gave u a head start or something....... maybe your a hottie and they wanted u to win... any pics? :D

Hah. That could be it too.
I know I'd let a cute girl beat me! ;):D

HAHA...U guys are funny....See that's the benefit of being a girl racer....Sometimes they just let u win!!!;)

2002 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.5 seconds
1997 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.8 seconds
1999 Integra Type R = 15.1
1993 Rx-7 R1 = 13.9 seconds
1995 Rx-7 R2 = 14.1

First off, there is no way a stock '93 Rx-7 would smoke ANY SS. Maybe win if the SS wasn't running its best, or if it was have serious traction problems. Either way, I would think it would be a very close race. I've raced a '95 Rx-7 with exhaust in my 1995 Z28 with i/h/e and won by about a half a car. Secondly, for the girl, there is no way in hell you beat an SS in a drag race. Didn't happen. Assuming you have a Type R(which you don't) you'd be getting MURDERED by an SS. Then, let's assume you've gone through some massive weight loss and threw on the mods you mentioned, you'd still only be running a 14.3ish(at best). Hardly enough to smoke an SS. Through traffic would be a different story, and would have nothing to do with your car, or even your driving. Instead it would deal almost entirely with your luck, and how the traffic was flowing in front of you. Stupid, btw.:rolleyes:

Oooh...Ahem! My best time was 13.9 i have thetime slips to prove it!!
Not soo far off from a 13.5 eh?

you have got show us some slips and tell us what exactly you have done to your car...and i dont care about looks...i wanna know whats making it go "13.9 sec."....

you've been talkin about these pics, timeslips, and dyno charts for weeks now.


still havent been posted, even when you were called out in the girls forum.

never heard so much BS in my life it doesn't take long to scan it anywayz

and erm yea i changed my user name anyone know any way to get the post count back up to what it was ..... ? anyone ?

IT TAKES LONG IF U DON'T OWN A SCANNER!.....ANYWAY....BE PATIENT...IT'S A VIRTUE!!! LAAAAAAAATES
Relax everyone.......SHEEEEEESH!
BS this...BS that......CHILL!

We can call BS all we want until you can show us some time slips.
Until then, your story is BS.

BTW, the 2001+ Camaro Z28 and SS along with the 2001+ Trans Am and T/A WS6 can and HAVE run 12's right out of the factory.

Last spring, with my car being BONE STOCK I brought it to the drag strip.
First pass of the day was:
[email protected] with a 2.01 60'

Backed it up with:
12.96@108
12.99@107

Just a little FYI for ya.

BTW, I'm not calling BS on the story. Maybe the RX7 WANTED to race, but his g/f was in the car didnt you say? I know my g/f HATED it when I would get into races. Maybe she yelled at him to stop?

I already told you what I thought happened with the SS on the highway.
;)

erm yea ? i dun own a scanner you said you could scan it earlier something smells n i dun mean my ass either! :flash:

15.1 seems kinda slow for a type r. My friend ran 14.9 in a 2000 si with i/h/e and a short shifter. i was skeptical till i saw the timeslip. MY brother ran a 13.23 in his stock SS and it has done better since.

Originally posted by Blackbird01
BTW, the 2001+ Camaro Z28 and SS along with the 2001+ Trans Am and T/A WS6 can and HAVE run 12's right out of the factory.

Last spring, with my car being BONE STOCK I brought it to the drag strip.
First pass of the day was:
[email protected] with a 2.01 60'

Backed it up with:
12.96@108
12.99@107

Just a little FYI for ya.

BTW, I'm not calling BS on the story. Maybe the RX7 WANTED to race, but his g/f was in the car didnt you say? I know my g/f HATED it when I would get into races. Maybe she yelled at him to stop?

I already told you what I thought happened with the SS on the highway.
;)

DAAAAMN....I never knew the new SS ran 12 sec's
STOCK!!:eek:
Good Job Man!!!!!!

it ran 12's stock, in an ideal altitude probably

Hey does anyone know how to put up pictures on this after it's scanned....Cuz i have my stuff scanned, I just don't know what to do now??:confused: hehe sorry im computer illiterate....almost:cool:

u're BSin


it under attach file ? ? ?? ? ? ?? you're talking out of your ass aren't u? how can u be that ? urg yea i'll shut up because i dun really want to flame u but erm i'm in shock :eek:

yea.....my brother in law rund mid to low 14's in his 2nd gen jdm b16 hatchback........only mods are intake and dc headers......it's the only car that i've been in that's fixed up and that shit pulls pretty hard, especially when it hits vtec......just MY OPINION........don't go around and be like "b16 don't pull that hard" or anything, cuz im only 15 and he's the only guy i know personaly w/ a modded car. oh yea.......i saw an ls/vtec w/o the usual b16 head but a gs-r head and it had 192 @ wheels!......not completely stock, i forgot what kinda parts but it had like pistons and shit......but i heard ls/vtec are unreliable........i guess my future b16a2 civic coupe will just have to do.........:D :D .......with a vortech blower.......man........272 @ wheels!........talking about pulling hard.........wait 2 years everyone!......you'll all feel the wrath of my car.........:flipa: :devil: :finger:
:rolleyes: hopfully.....:D

Originally posted by Self
2002 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.5 seconds
1997 Camaro Z28 SS = 13.8 seconds
1999 Integra Type R = 15.1
1993 Rx-7 R1 = 13.9 seconds
1995 Rx-7 R2 = 14.1

First off, there is no way a stock '93 Rx-7 would smoke ANY SS. Maybe win if the SS wasn't running its best, or if it was have serious traction problems. Either way, I would think it would be a very close race. I've raced a '95 Rx-7 with exhaust in my 1995 Z28 with i/h/e and won by about a half a car. Secondly, for the girl, there is no way in hell you beat an SS in a drag race. Didn't happen. Assuming you have a Type R(which you don't) you'd be getting MURDERED by an SS. Then, let's assume you've gone through some massive weight loss and threw on the mods you mentioned, you'd still only be running a 14.3ish(at best). Hardly enough to smoke an SS. Through traffic would be a different story, and would have nothing to do with your car, or even your driving. Instead it would deal almost entirely with your luck, and how the traffic was flowing in front of you. Stupid, btw.:rolleyes:

hey hey i got a japanese video with a stock integra it has a 14.5 second quater mile

its been a few more weeks and still no timeslips or dyno slip posted......

i can run a better time this is pathetic


If you talk you better be able to back it up or prove it especially when you say you're gonna produce some time slips ...... I wonder if she was banned

come one guys......give her a break.....maybe she honestly doesn't know how to upload the slips.......maybe she honestly DID beat those cars........maybe those cars were honestly f**ked up..........and maybe she's honestly bullshitting the hell out of us.......but who knows.....all you guys know if she was a fine chick you guys would all be like "you beat an rx-7?.....wow.......good job!......"

then turn around pissing myself laughing cuz that would be a dumb hot chick - "get on the end of my cock you biotch:smoker: " and that would be that

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
then turn around pissing myself laughing cuz that would be a dumb hot chick - "get on the end of my cock you biotch:smoker: " and that would be that

riiiite.........in your gay ass volvo:flipa: .........i don't know if she's bullshitting or not but that doesn't mean you have to say some shit like that...i don't know this girl but still, you could show her some respect......shit

for real nsx...

after reading your posts for a few months, it seems quite evident that you like to type before thinking

RX7 was probably just messing around. Nuff said.

I don't consider it a race unless we've exchanged some words like "wanna race?" and get a response like... "Okay, from here to the light. No NOS."

My cousin, on the other hand, races people who don't even know they're being raced!!! He is so happy he smoked whatever, when really the other guy was just playing TAG or something.

whos rx7?

wassup dmc.....where in long beach are u at?.......that's a sweet looking car.....i don't know if you drive it around but i've never seen a car like that around......i don't know if it's your car but if it is......it's pretty tight.....do you have any mods on it?......i don't know much about that car except that it's from back to the future......:D........

Civic EX: 2600LBS (not counting that she said she has some weight reductions, according to her), divided by 250HP (this is with an LS-VTEC with b16 pistons on regular pump gas) equals 10.4LBS per HP.

Stock (although the 7 in her story had gauges) RX-7: 2800LBS, divided by 255HP (again, stock), equals 10.980LBS per HP. This is all assuming the RX-7 was a turbo...they did make N/A ones too.

Stock Camaro SS: 3400LBS, divided by 320HP, equals 10.625LBS per HP.

Not to mention either vehicle may have been automatic...although knowing Blackbird, he'll argue that the General's auto trannies are better than stick anyday...on the dragstrip...the auto doesn't have the benefit of an instant 2-gear (or three, depending on redline) downshift.

...2 cents...

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
250HP (this is with an LS-VTEC with b16 pistons on regular pump gas)

whoa... what the hell kinda hondas do they have where youre from??? its not that easy to just pull 250 n/a horses out of a 1.8liter, hybrid or not!

still, 250hp wouldnt be enough for a civic to beat a camaro ss. regardless of what the power/weight ratios say, a civic needs more than that to beat a stock camaro ss.

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


whoa... what the hell kinda hondas do they have where youre from??? its not that easy to just pull 250 n/a horses out of a 1.8liter, hybrid or not!

still, 250hp wouldnt be enough for a civic to beat a camaro ss. regardless of what the power/weight ratios say, a civic needs more than that to beat a stock camaro ss.

Well...you're lucky I can't find that old issue of ImportTuner which featured an LS-VTEC swap that spun the dyno to about 198HP AT-THE-WHEELS! But that's okay...I found something else that'll illustrate my point...page 75 of the summer2000 HondaTuning issue features a U.S.-spec b16 from a 1999 Civic Si, naturally aspirated (they turbo'd this car after this) putting 170HP to the wheels. That's with the b16 head and block...imagine this same car's block stroked to 1.8 liters...

And what's this about 250HP not enough to beat a Camaro SS? Are you telling me that the Suzuki Hayabusa's 170HP won't be enough to beat a 450HP Viper GT-S? It's ALL about power-to-weight...
...she'll probably lose on a drag strip, where the 'Maro's superior RWD traction will have her trying trying to chase it, but that's irrelevant on a freeway...

ahh yes import tuner....

babes and bass rather than real performance

might as well buy lowrider

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Well...you're lucky I can't find that old issue of ImportTuner which featured an LS-VTEC swap that spun the dyno to about 198HP AT-THE-WHEELS! But that's okay...I found something else that'll illustrate my point...page 75 of the summer2000 HondaTuning issue features a U.S.-spec b16 from a 1999 Civic Si, naturally aspirated (they turbo'd this car after this) putting 170HP to the wheels. That's with the b16 head and block...imagine this same car's block stroked to 1.8 liters...

And what's this about 250HP not enough to beat a Camaro SS? Are you telling me that the Suzuki Hayabusa's 170HP won't be enough to beat a 450HP Viper GT-S? It's ALL about power-to-weight...
...she'll probably lose on a drag strip, where the 'Maro's superior RWD traction will have her trying trying to chase it, but that's irrelevant on a freeway...

still youre not gonna get 250hp. maybe 220. thats after adding a lot more bolt on parts.

and i said 250hp isnt enough for a civic to beat an ss. a civic is fwd, which means traction problems galore due to the weight transfer on to the rear wheels from hard acceleration. thats the reason the fwd drag cars have such a hard time compared to the rwd ones. plus the camaros has a lot more torque and a much more usable powerband than the civic would. sure maybe the civic would out accelerate the camaro when theyre both at their peak hp points, but the camaro will be pulling for the rest of the time cuz it will have a better power/weight ratio at the other rpm points. and i doubt the civic will even pull on the camaro at peak hp, cuz of the superior torque of the camaro. dont believe me about torque making that much of a difference? why does my car (3000 lbs 160hp) pull away from a civic si (2600lbs 160hp) when we both hit it on the freeway? the civic clearly has a better power/weight ratio, but the civic only has 111b/ft of torque while mine has 165lb/ft torque. trust me i would have NO problem pulling away. of course the flatter power curve also comes into play there, as i dont have to wait for vtec to kick in before i get any power, but the same goes for the camaro.

if im on the highway why wouldnt i downshift into a gear that i would already be in the power band? why would i go from 5th to 4th if im doing like 50?

A 250 hp Civic smoking an SS? I think not. Like he said, torque and traction both play huge parts in the race, as well as the powerband of an SS being much stronger than that of the civic. I'm pretty sure the SS would pull a victory out against the Civic. Also, what's this about the automatic in an SS not being able to downshift?? As Blackbird can attest, the A4 tranny in an LS1 is able to downshift too a lower gear than the M6 from redline at almost every gear.

this chart is for a stock or near stock camaro ss. hp goes left to right, and torque goes right to left. note the extreme "flatness" of the torque curve.
http://auto-x.com/dynocharts/sikora.jpg

this chart is for a civic putting out 250hp and 170lb/ft of torque at the wheels via vortech supercharger.
http://www.redlineautosport.com/images/drivers/laurebernal/DYNO_2000CivicSi.jpg

now if both cars dropped to the proper gears for their speed and floored it, if they happened to be near max rpm, the civic MIGHT stand a chance. but as soon as they shifted and the rpms dropped, the civic will have lost a good deal of its power, while the ss will still be near max power.

and to the guy saying a ls/vtec having 250hp, i found this while looking for the dyno charts, this is some guys civic with a b20/b16 head, like an ls/vtec stroked to 2.0 liters:

B20B block, resleeved
B16A head, proper machine work done for VTEC conversion
Endyn/Wiseco 12:1 RollerWave pistons
Eagle rods
B16A cams
RC Engineering 370cc injectors
Mugen clone ECU (to be replaced with Hondata ECU soon)
JDM ITR tranny with factory LSD
ACT clutch - extreme pressure plate, performance street disc
Del Sol VTEC radiator
Place Racing & Energy Suspension engine mounts
K&N Filtercharger intake
DC ceramic coated 4-1 header
Greddy Evolution exhaust
As for power, Phillip at Intercrew is estimating at least 215hp/150lbft at the wheels.