Was this RX-7 Sandbaggin or whaaa?
tenzoracerevovii
02-21-2002, 08:30 PM
i think it was superstreet that had an ls/vtec pumping out 190+ hp at the wheels.....but it wasn't the usual ls/vtec most people have seen.....it wasn't a b16, but a b18c1.......gs-r engine......i don't know if 250 at the wheels is all that easy n/a, cuz the all motor crx, the low 11 sec one has about 250, claimed......and that's w/ sponsors and shit.....i don't know much about ls/vtecs so i'll stop......but i'm not too sure this ls/vtec hatch would be able to beat an rx-7 or an SS.....so....i'm not gonna say anything cuz it might be true, who knows......what's next?......a civic hatchback beating a corvette or a viper......:D :eek: .........~wink wink~
carrrnuttt
02-22-2002, 07:07 AM
How many of you attempting to respond to me have actually owned and DRIVEN a high-performance/NA/extended RPM's/DOHC-VTEC-powered car?
My last car was a 1990 Acura Integra GS which weighed in at about 2600LBS. I had a 5million series b16 with the optional LSD equipped, and the taller (relative to high-RPM Honda's) gearing that 5million series engines enjoy. It had an effective redline of 10000RPM's, of which I usually used it only up to 9500. I can get up to 88mph in SECOND GEAR at the fuel cut-off point...which means I can downshift to second gear when starting a freeway race at about 70. I DO NOT recommend this practice in any way, especially sinc this eventually led to my engine giving out in a oil-smoke, embarrassing fashion. BTW, my VTEC-switch point was at 6200RPM's. the car's top speed was about 155-160MPH, as determined by my friend in a Yamaha YZF-R I was chasing on the freeway...I also had I/H/E...with the "E" being a full repipe from header on down, and obviously a modified ECU.
I drive...even to this day...46 miles one-way, 5 days a week to go to work, and it's mostly freeway and highway (I-10, I-85, and back).
I NEVER-ever lost to any Mustang (though I admit most of the ones that tried me were mostly mild to stock...but then my car is in that category too) on the freeway. YES they were trying...when you are going 130+, and the other car is still in your rearview, though getting smaller, trust me, they're trying.
I usually get the jump on Camaro/Firechicken races, due to the fact that most of the time, they don't feel like they have to downshift. They usually catch up around the 120-140MPH mark, depending on the jump I get, due to their "natural" torque (more on this later) which allows them to bully their way through the exceedingly more resistant air drag. At this point, they usually walk past me, with their top-speed of 165MPH or so.
114FT-LB of torque will never be able to move a 2600LB car (i.e., a Civic Si). Just as 350FT-LBS of torque will NEVER move a 3300LB Camaro. Torque is always multiplied by the gearing MANY times over to put effective torque on the wheels. Multiple thousands of torque get to the wheels, in fact, even in the case of the Civic Si, so that the car may be pushed or pulled forward at a specified rate. This is how Honda tries to cope with it's engines' low TQ output...Honda uses short gearing, to multiply it's TQ output even more, and closely spaced gears, so that you never fall out of the "sweet spot" of it's peaky engines.
By the time I hit 140+MPH, I am usually heading towards 5th gear, which ends my lower-gear/higher TQ factor, which effectively leads me to almost rely on my car's "natural torque", which we all know, is non-existent.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, you have to have been there to become the true believer that I've become. Oh, I would say I'm a good driver...I learned to drive stick when I was SEVEN...on my mom's old '74 VW Bug, using blocks, with my Unc' teaching.
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
and to the guy saying a ls/vtec having 250hp, i found this while looking for the dyno charts, this is some guys civic with a b20/b16 head, like an ls/vtec stroked to 2.0 liters:
B20B block, resleeved
B16A head, proper machine work done for VTEC conversion
Endyn/Wiseco 12:1 RollerWave pistons
Eagle rods
B16A cams
RC Engineering 370cc injectors
Mugen clone ECU (to be replaced with Hondata ECU soon)
JDM ITR tranny with factory LSD
ACT clutch - extreme pressure plate, performance street disc
Del Sol VTEC radiator
Place Racing & Energy Suspension engine mounts
K&N Filtercharger intake
DC ceramic coated 4-1 header
Greddy Evolution exhaust
As for power, Phillip at Intercrew is estimating at least 215hp/150lbft at the wheels.
I apologize...the hybrid Honda engine I was referring to was a b20, with a b16 head ( I knew I shoulda made sure I had the issue to back me up!)...the 215HP at the wheels...considering 15% in drivetrain losses, equates to about 250HP at the crank. The LS-VTEC conversion averages about 220HP at the crank, which would give a 2600LB EX it powers 11.818LBS per HP, again, not counting her alleged weight reductions. Not bad, considering a 3180LB 1995 M3 coupe has 13.25LBS to carry per HP.
Originally posted by kidrocket
if im on the highway why wouldnt i downshift into a gear that i would already be in the power band? why would i go from 5th to 4th if im doing like 50?
kidrocket, I refer you above, where I talk about gearing multiplying a car's TQ...the lower the gear, the more TQ actually goes to the wheels...regardless of where you are in the powerband. Why do you think you can't take-off in 5th gear?
Originally posted by Self
A 250 hp Civic smoking an SS? I think not. Like he said, torque and traction both play huge parts in the race, as well as the powerband of an SS being much stronger than that of the civic. I'm pretty sure the SS would pull a victory out against the Civic. Also, what's this about the automatic in an SS not being able to downshift?? As Blackbird can attest, the A4 tranny in an LS1 is able to downshift too a lower gear than the M6 from redline at almost every gear.
A 250HP Civic CAN smoke an SS...if it's light enough. just like, I repeat, a 170HP Hayabusa can smoke a 450HP Viper. Hell, the drag-only 250+HP all-motor Hondas run 11's consistently...add a couple-hundred pounds of street-cruising comfort items, you might have a 13's-on-street-tires, 12's-on-drags car...if you knew how to drive it. You're pretty sure the SS would pull the victory? have you ever driven a 250HP Civic? I know you've driven SS's and stuff like that...just like I've driven my dad's old big-block powered Cutlass. I repeat, you just have to have been there.
Here's a conservative estimate on my old engine:
168=stock HP (remember, it was a JDM engine from an SiRII)
+5=intake
+10=headers, re-pipe, hi-flow cat
+15=ECU, optimized fuel/timing maps, raised VTEC-switch-over/raised RPM.
Total...a possible 198HP at the crank on a 2600LB car, which gives it 13.13LBS per HP, possibly.
I said "the auto doesn't have the benefit of an instant 2-gear (or three, depending on redline) downshift". I didn't say: "the automatic can't downshift". To downshift an auto, you stomp on the gas, make the ECU realize you are looking for SERIOUS acceleration, therefore dropping it a gear. To downshift a manual: select 1-2(-3)gears down, mash on gas before/during/after downshift...your choice, whatever optimizes your mid-to-top-end acceleration. Why doesn't NASCAR, the most American of racing venues, use the most american form of driving, autos? I use NASCAR as an example because it has long straightaways that emulate a freeway race better (also, somebody might complain if I'd used LeMans, which has a 3-mile long straightaway).
Whew.
My last car was a 1990 Acura Integra GS which weighed in at about 2600LBS. I had a 5million series b16 with the optional LSD equipped, and the taller (relative to high-RPM Honda's) gearing that 5million series engines enjoy. It had an effective redline of 10000RPM's, of which I usually used it only up to 9500. I can get up to 88mph in SECOND GEAR at the fuel cut-off point...which means I can downshift to second gear when starting a freeway race at about 70. I DO NOT recommend this practice in any way, especially sinc this eventually led to my engine giving out in a oil-smoke, embarrassing fashion. BTW, my VTEC-switch point was at 6200RPM's. the car's top speed was about 155-160MPH, as determined by my friend in a Yamaha YZF-R I was chasing on the freeway...I also had I/H/E...with the "E" being a full repipe from header on down, and obviously a modified ECU.
I drive...even to this day...46 miles one-way, 5 days a week to go to work, and it's mostly freeway and highway (I-10, I-85, and back).
I NEVER-ever lost to any Mustang (though I admit most of the ones that tried me were mostly mild to stock...but then my car is in that category too) on the freeway. YES they were trying...when you are going 130+, and the other car is still in your rearview, though getting smaller, trust me, they're trying.
I usually get the jump on Camaro/Firechicken races, due to the fact that most of the time, they don't feel like they have to downshift. They usually catch up around the 120-140MPH mark, depending on the jump I get, due to their "natural" torque (more on this later) which allows them to bully their way through the exceedingly more resistant air drag. At this point, they usually walk past me, with their top-speed of 165MPH or so.
114FT-LB of torque will never be able to move a 2600LB car (i.e., a Civic Si). Just as 350FT-LBS of torque will NEVER move a 3300LB Camaro. Torque is always multiplied by the gearing MANY times over to put effective torque on the wheels. Multiple thousands of torque get to the wheels, in fact, even in the case of the Civic Si, so that the car may be pushed or pulled forward at a specified rate. This is how Honda tries to cope with it's engines' low TQ output...Honda uses short gearing, to multiply it's TQ output even more, and closely spaced gears, so that you never fall out of the "sweet spot" of it's peaky engines.
By the time I hit 140+MPH, I am usually heading towards 5th gear, which ends my lower-gear/higher TQ factor, which effectively leads me to almost rely on my car's "natural torque", which we all know, is non-existent.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, you have to have been there to become the true believer that I've become. Oh, I would say I'm a good driver...I learned to drive stick when I was SEVEN...on my mom's old '74 VW Bug, using blocks, with my Unc' teaching.
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
and to the guy saying a ls/vtec having 250hp, i found this while looking for the dyno charts, this is some guys civic with a b20/b16 head, like an ls/vtec stroked to 2.0 liters:
B20B block, resleeved
B16A head, proper machine work done for VTEC conversion
Endyn/Wiseco 12:1 RollerWave pistons
Eagle rods
B16A cams
RC Engineering 370cc injectors
Mugen clone ECU (to be replaced with Hondata ECU soon)
JDM ITR tranny with factory LSD
ACT clutch - extreme pressure plate, performance street disc
Del Sol VTEC radiator
Place Racing & Energy Suspension engine mounts
K&N Filtercharger intake
DC ceramic coated 4-1 header
Greddy Evolution exhaust
As for power, Phillip at Intercrew is estimating at least 215hp/150lbft at the wheels.
I apologize...the hybrid Honda engine I was referring to was a b20, with a b16 head ( I knew I shoulda made sure I had the issue to back me up!)...the 215HP at the wheels...considering 15% in drivetrain losses, equates to about 250HP at the crank. The LS-VTEC conversion averages about 220HP at the crank, which would give a 2600LB EX it powers 11.818LBS per HP, again, not counting her alleged weight reductions. Not bad, considering a 3180LB 1995 M3 coupe has 13.25LBS to carry per HP.
Originally posted by kidrocket
if im on the highway why wouldnt i downshift into a gear that i would already be in the power band? why would i go from 5th to 4th if im doing like 50?
kidrocket, I refer you above, where I talk about gearing multiplying a car's TQ...the lower the gear, the more TQ actually goes to the wheels...regardless of where you are in the powerband. Why do you think you can't take-off in 5th gear?
Originally posted by Self
A 250 hp Civic smoking an SS? I think not. Like he said, torque and traction both play huge parts in the race, as well as the powerband of an SS being much stronger than that of the civic. I'm pretty sure the SS would pull a victory out against the Civic. Also, what's this about the automatic in an SS not being able to downshift?? As Blackbird can attest, the A4 tranny in an LS1 is able to downshift too a lower gear than the M6 from redline at almost every gear.
A 250HP Civic CAN smoke an SS...if it's light enough. just like, I repeat, a 170HP Hayabusa can smoke a 450HP Viper. Hell, the drag-only 250+HP all-motor Hondas run 11's consistently...add a couple-hundred pounds of street-cruising comfort items, you might have a 13's-on-street-tires, 12's-on-drags car...if you knew how to drive it. You're pretty sure the SS would pull the victory? have you ever driven a 250HP Civic? I know you've driven SS's and stuff like that...just like I've driven my dad's old big-block powered Cutlass. I repeat, you just have to have been there.
Here's a conservative estimate on my old engine:
168=stock HP (remember, it was a JDM engine from an SiRII)
+5=intake
+10=headers, re-pipe, hi-flow cat
+15=ECU, optimized fuel/timing maps, raised VTEC-switch-over/raised RPM.
Total...a possible 198HP at the crank on a 2600LB car, which gives it 13.13LBS per HP, possibly.
I said "the auto doesn't have the benefit of an instant 2-gear (or three, depending on redline) downshift". I didn't say: "the automatic can't downshift". To downshift an auto, you stomp on the gas, make the ECU realize you are looking for SERIOUS acceleration, therefore dropping it a gear. To downshift a manual: select 1-2(-3)gears down, mash on gas before/during/after downshift...your choice, whatever optimizes your mid-to-top-end acceleration. Why doesn't NASCAR, the most American of racing venues, use the most american form of driving, autos? I use NASCAR as an example because it has long straightaways that emulate a freeway race better (also, somebody might complain if I'd used LeMans, which has a 3-mile long straightaway).
Whew.
kidrocket
02-22-2002, 09:16 AM
thats what i was trying to say. i just didnt do that great of a job. i guessi just messed that up. I was saying itd be stupid to downshift into 4th gear if your doin like 40 mph. But itd be kinda hard for me in my car to drop into 2nd at 80 mph.
LjasonL
02-22-2002, 03:25 PM
a motor that can rev to 10,000 rpm and a standard ls/vtec conversion are 2 completely different things. what youre saying, while impressive, is irrelevent to this conversation. the point is that, this girls ls/vtec, even if it made 250 hp to the wheels, will not outrun a stock camaro ss. while your car may be able to downshift to 2nd at 80, hers cant. even with her weight reductions i seriously doubt she has removed enough weight to compensate for the low point in her powerband. your car can compensate for that, because while it may still have that low point, youll never rev down enough to get to it. but hers will.
carrrnuttt
02-22-2002, 06:27 PM
Everytime I've ever posted a street-racing story, I always include all pertinent, even technical information...when I shifted, what RPM's I went up to, what the car looked like in my rearview;) , etc., etc...instead of just saying: "I spanked a mustang!".
In the current mindset of things, small motors are the underdog, which forces an explanation of anything outside of the "ordinary" (i.e., beating a V8). Just like Columbus trying to explain why the world wasn't flat...
...too bad I don't have the Queen of Spain to back me up.
In the current mindset of things, small motors are the underdog, which forces an explanation of anything outside of the "ordinary" (i.e., beating a V8). Just like Columbus trying to explain why the world wasn't flat...
...too bad I don't have the Queen of Spain to back me up.
DMC12
02-22-2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
wassup dmc.....where in long beach are u at?.......that's a sweet looking car.....i don't know if you drive it around but i've never seen a car like that around......i don't know if it's your car but if it is......it's pretty tight.....do you have any mods on it?......i don't know much about that car except that it's from back to the future......:D........
Whassap mybrotha? The car is located two hours north of LB. Its stored at old man's house... that is why you don't see it down here. But just wait, because as soon as I find a cheap storage garage for it I'll be cruising here more.
The car has reduced weight, a wing, scoops to help with airflow & handling (not just for looks), and one bad-ass paint job. Actually, I'm changing the paint this weekend. It will be a little different. I will post pics when I get em. Check out the DeLorean section for more info on the car!
wassup dmc.....where in long beach are u at?.......that's a sweet looking car.....i don't know if you drive it around but i've never seen a car like that around......i don't know if it's your car but if it is......it's pretty tight.....do you have any mods on it?......i don't know much about that car except that it's from back to the future......:D........
Whassap mybrotha? The car is located two hours north of LB. Its stored at old man's house... that is why you don't see it down here. But just wait, because as soon as I find a cheap storage garage for it I'll be cruising here more.
The car has reduced weight, a wing, scoops to help with airflow & handling (not just for looks), and one bad-ass paint job. Actually, I'm changing the paint this weekend. It will be a little different. I will post pics when I get em. Check out the DeLorean section for more info on the car!
tenzoracerevovii
02-22-2002, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by DMC12
Whassap mybrotha? The car is located two hours north of LB. Its stored at old man's house... that is why you don't see it down here. But just wait, because as soon as I find a cheap storage garage for it I'll be cruising here more.
the car!
You can store it my house...:D .....no charge.....and the it may seem as if the mileage is going up......but that would just be your imagination.......:rolleyes:
Whassap mybrotha? The car is located two hours north of LB. Its stored at old man's house... that is why you don't see it down here. But just wait, because as soon as I find a cheap storage garage for it I'll be cruising here more.
the car!
You can store it my house...:D .....no charge.....and the it may seem as if the mileage is going up......but that would just be your imagination.......:rolleyes:
LjasonL
02-23-2002, 01:30 AM
deloreans are cool...
ever thought about building little mock fairings over the rear to resemble the back to the future car?
sorry im sure u get asked that all the time :rolleyes:
ever thought about building little mock fairings over the rear to resemble the back to the future car?
sorry im sure u get asked that all the time :rolleyes:
kidrocket
02-24-2002, 04:18 PM
i just added two mods to my civic
1. the flux capacitor
2. Mr. fusion
now my car can fly
1. the flux capacitor
2. Mr. fusion
now my car can fly
n88accordlxi
02-25-2002, 10:14 PM
guys she never even said what kind of rx7 it was... my friend has a late 80's rx7 non turbo(im guessing 87-88) and i raced him in my 88 accord lxi and i had 2 people in my car and heavy wheels and i got a car length on him, with both have automatics also.....
NSX-R-SSJ20K
02-25-2002, 10:33 PM
she said it had a turbo .....
*smack*
*smack*
LjasonL
02-25-2002, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by GURLSVTEC
I Only use race gas...VP Race Fuels 108 Octane!!
i just noticed this... if this girl is still here i would like to know WHY u only use 108 octane gas? that seems WAY overkill for your mods, u should be fine on 93 octane? do u just like the smell???
would the 108 be too heavy (too much lead) for your civic to idle smoothly on? not to mention isnt leaded fuel illegal for street use?
I Only use race gas...VP Race Fuels 108 Octane!!
i just noticed this... if this girl is still here i would like to know WHY u only use 108 octane gas? that seems WAY overkill for your mods, u should be fine on 93 octane? do u just like the smell???
would the 108 be too heavy (too much lead) for your civic to idle smoothly on? not to mention isnt leaded fuel illegal for street use?
jeisai
02-26-2002, 04:12 AM
Not to mention 108 octane has got to be expensive to run daily. Anyone notice how she disappeared after she said she got her stuff scanned?
jOYRiDe
03-02-2002, 06:54 AM
goob job guys, u totally blew her off without letting her show the proof.... shame shame shame.
kidrocket
03-02-2002, 10:40 AM
joyride she just kinda disappeared. were still waiting for the proof. its been a month or so now
jOYRiDe
03-02-2002, 12:59 PM
yeah i know....she could been a hottie and u guys scared her away :(
dang
dang
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-03-2002, 01:48 PM
she isn't coming back
:D o well
:D o well
RoCkIn CIVex
03-03-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by jOYRiDe
maybe your a hottie and they wanted u to win... any pics? :D
lol
maybe your a hottie and they wanted u to win... any pics? :D
lol
tenzoracerevovii
03-04-2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
How many of you attempting to respond to me have actually owned and DRIVEN a high-performance/NA/extended RPM's/DOHC-VTEC-powered car?
My last car was a 1990 Acura Integra GS which weighed in at about 2600LBS. I had a 5million series b16 with the optional LSD equipped, and the taller (relative to high-RPM Honda's) gearing that 5million series engines enjoy. It had an effective redline of 10000RPM's, of which I usually used it only up to 9500. I can get up to 88mph in SECOND GEAR at the fuel cut-off point...which means I can downshift to second gear when starting a freeway race at about 70. I DO NOT recommend this practice in any way, especially sinc this eventually led to my engine giving out in a oil-smoke, embarrassing fashion. BTW, my VTEC-switch point was at 6200RPM's. the car's top speed was about 155-160MPH, as determined by my friend in a Yamaha YZF-R I was chasing on the freeway...I also had I/H/E...with the "E" being a full repipe from header on down, and obviously a modified ECU.
Whew.
In response to your claim of going 160 miles, I was wondering about a few things. Tell me what kind of an ecu are you running? ITR? if not what ecu then? Also I have a 5 million b16a jdm version 2nd generation with a Y21 tranny. My car tacks out at 130. With the LSD, it might give better shifts but what's up with the bs long gears you claim to have? What gears? How can you talk stupid shit like you hit 160 miles per hour. Even with lsd, ecu whatever and header exhaust and intake...that 160 is total bullshit. Unless your motor is fully built from ground up, which i doubt. With the modifications you entered, that is total bullshit. Please reply and tell me your dellusional fantasies of going 160. HAHA. All bullshit. You know what stop posting bs.
How many of you attempting to respond to me have actually owned and DRIVEN a high-performance/NA/extended RPM's/DOHC-VTEC-powered car?
My last car was a 1990 Acura Integra GS which weighed in at about 2600LBS. I had a 5million series b16 with the optional LSD equipped, and the taller (relative to high-RPM Honda's) gearing that 5million series engines enjoy. It had an effective redline of 10000RPM's, of which I usually used it only up to 9500. I can get up to 88mph in SECOND GEAR at the fuel cut-off point...which means I can downshift to second gear when starting a freeway race at about 70. I DO NOT recommend this practice in any way, especially sinc this eventually led to my engine giving out in a oil-smoke, embarrassing fashion. BTW, my VTEC-switch point was at 6200RPM's. the car's top speed was about 155-160MPH, as determined by my friend in a Yamaha YZF-R I was chasing on the freeway...I also had I/H/E...with the "E" being a full repipe from header on down, and obviously a modified ECU.
Whew.
In response to your claim of going 160 miles, I was wondering about a few things. Tell me what kind of an ecu are you running? ITR? if not what ecu then? Also I have a 5 million b16a jdm version 2nd generation with a Y21 tranny. My car tacks out at 130. With the LSD, it might give better shifts but what's up with the bs long gears you claim to have? What gears? How can you talk stupid shit like you hit 160 miles per hour. Even with lsd, ecu whatever and header exhaust and intake...that 160 is total bullshit. Unless your motor is fully built from ground up, which i doubt. With the modifications you entered, that is total bullshit. Please reply and tell me your dellusional fantasies of going 160. HAHA. All bullshit. You know what stop posting bs.
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-04-2002, 01:03 AM
that has to be total bullshit its hard enough to hit 140 nm fucking 160 and if you can do 160 how come its so much harder to get to 170 ie that Vortect Civic that did that speed challenge i have no idea how fast it went but that wasn't as fast as top fuels Drag civic
tenzoracerevovii
03-04-2002, 01:26 AM
the n/a one averaged about 155 or something and the blown one hit 187........you're telling me you hit 160 in a n/a car with MILD modifications?........the n/a has the record for it's class which is almost stock.......sorry to burst your bubble, but don't go around bullshitting......
carrrnuttt
03-04-2002, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
In response to your claim of going 160 miles, I was wondering about a few things. Tell me what kind of an ecu are you running? ITR? if not what ecu then? Also I have a 5 million b16a jdm version 2nd generation with a Y21 tranny. My car tacks out at 130. With the LSD, it might give better shifts but what's up with the bs long gears you claim to have? What gears? How can you talk stupid shit like you hit 160 miles per hour. Even with lsd, ecu whatever and header exhaust and intake...that 160 is total bullshit. Unless your motor is fully built from ground up, which i doubt. With the modifications you entered, that is total bullshit. Please reply and tell me your dellusional fantasies of going 160. HAHA. All bullshit. You know what stop posting bs.
Sure...bullshit..
One of my many proofs that my speedo is accurate is when I top-end raced this 1999-2000 Civic Si (like I said before, and I'll say again, I drive almost 100miles to-from work everyday, mostly freeway, I have a LOT of chances to test out any of my vehicles top-speed...if you want, call 623-386-6160...ask them how far from the city the institution is). I basically paced him (the Si) until he topped out (basically couldn't go any faster) at 130mph. At this point, I handily passed him at 140mph at 7500 rpm. Now, compare that to my redline of 10000RPMs and realize that I had 2500 more RPM's to go. My ECU is a custom program from Hasport of Phoenix, AZ. Look at the recent SportCompactCar issues involving B-series swaps. Look at the company that SCC always call on for Honda expertise.
Anyways, Hasport has always told me that Honda speedos have always been somewhat innaccurate when it come to these high speeds that these cars were never meant to go. My top-speed claim stems from my co-worker in a YZF Yamaha who I was pacing...his speedo reads accurately till 180mph, though his actual top-speed is only about 170+. He told me the day after we had a top-speed chase with each other (again, to clarify...he stayed in top-gear and never downshifted, allowing me to keep pace behind him), that he was at 160+ before he actually started pulling away from me, which leads me to the conclusion that I at least kept up with him up to/close to that speed. I had another co-worker in the car with me...do you want me to ask him to send you an affidavit to prove how fast we were going? My buddy in the bike...should I have him post on here? This is what happened, and those are the facts...if you don't believe me, I don't care.
As for the gearing thing:http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16608&perpage=15&pagenumber=2
[email protected] for a stock SirII Civic (without the governor, of course) with the Y1 gearing...which I had. You should have at least that with your YS1 gearing. Imagine again, 10000RPM...
It's not, I repeat, it's NOT my fault that your engine is underachieveing.:flipa:
Hey...check some facts before you open your mouth.
In response to your claim of going 160 miles, I was wondering about a few things. Tell me what kind of an ecu are you running? ITR? if not what ecu then? Also I have a 5 million b16a jdm version 2nd generation with a Y21 tranny. My car tacks out at 130. With the LSD, it might give better shifts but what's up with the bs long gears you claim to have? What gears? How can you talk stupid shit like you hit 160 miles per hour. Even with lsd, ecu whatever and header exhaust and intake...that 160 is total bullshit. Unless your motor is fully built from ground up, which i doubt. With the modifications you entered, that is total bullshit. Please reply and tell me your dellusional fantasies of going 160. HAHA. All bullshit. You know what stop posting bs.
Sure...bullshit..
One of my many proofs that my speedo is accurate is when I top-end raced this 1999-2000 Civic Si (like I said before, and I'll say again, I drive almost 100miles to-from work everyday, mostly freeway, I have a LOT of chances to test out any of my vehicles top-speed...if you want, call 623-386-6160...ask them how far from the city the institution is). I basically paced him (the Si) until he topped out (basically couldn't go any faster) at 130mph. At this point, I handily passed him at 140mph at 7500 rpm. Now, compare that to my redline of 10000RPMs and realize that I had 2500 more RPM's to go. My ECU is a custom program from Hasport of Phoenix, AZ. Look at the recent SportCompactCar issues involving B-series swaps. Look at the company that SCC always call on for Honda expertise.
Anyways, Hasport has always told me that Honda speedos have always been somewhat innaccurate when it come to these high speeds that these cars were never meant to go. My top-speed claim stems from my co-worker in a YZF Yamaha who I was pacing...his speedo reads accurately till 180mph, though his actual top-speed is only about 170+. He told me the day after we had a top-speed chase with each other (again, to clarify...he stayed in top-gear and never downshifted, allowing me to keep pace behind him), that he was at 160+ before he actually started pulling away from me, which leads me to the conclusion that I at least kept up with him up to/close to that speed. I had another co-worker in the car with me...do you want me to ask him to send you an affidavit to prove how fast we were going? My buddy in the bike...should I have him post on here? This is what happened, and those are the facts...if you don't believe me, I don't care.
As for the gearing thing:http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16608&perpage=15&pagenumber=2
[email protected] for a stock SirII Civic (without the governor, of course) with the Y1 gearing...which I had. You should have at least that with your YS1 gearing. Imagine again, 10000RPM...
It's not, I repeat, it's NOT my fault that your engine is underachieveing.:flipa:
Hey...check some facts before you open your mouth.
carrrnuttt
03-04-2002, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
the n/a one averaged about 155 or something and the blown one hit 187........you're telling me you hit 160 in a n/a car with MILD modifications?........the n/a has the record for it's class which is almost stock.......sorry to burst your bubble, but don't go around bullshitting......
The 155mph one used the stock Si gearing...now think about that. The Y1 has taller gearing. Also, they only have a limited amount of miles to reach top speed before they have to slow down, not the 10 or so I had.
the n/a one averaged about 155 or something and the blown one hit 187........you're telling me you hit 160 in a n/a car with MILD modifications?........the n/a has the record for it's class which is almost stock.......sorry to burst your bubble, but don't go around bullshitting......
The 155mph one used the stock Si gearing...now think about that. The Y1 has taller gearing. Also, they only have a limited amount of miles to reach top speed before they have to slow down, not the 10 or so I had.
tenzoracerevovii
03-09-2002, 12:25 AM
for your stupid ass lies shut the fuck up. With integra body with no weight reduction and HAsport ecu....haha bitch. I threw a jdm b16a in a hatchback. Which is lighter than your integra body. Also with the Y1 tranny and few modifications...you are the one that is fucken dreamen of punching it to 160 mph. I have dc 4 to 1 headers and aem intake with an exhaust. I am running about 14.8. That is on the real. Sure I smoke Si's all day and gsr's. Why don't you try racing a type r you fuck. You would lose. You think with a modified ecu and little in and out modifications( meaning intake, heads, exhaust) you can kick out 200+ horsepower. HAHA you are funny. HAsport ecu ooh big fucken deal. Bring your shit down here to Cali. You would get smoked. Kick the real shit and stop bsin. :finger: :flipa:
Kick the real shit stupid ass....You keep dreamin stupid hick.
Kick the real shit stupid ass....You keep dreamin stupid hick.
carrrnuttt
03-09-2002, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by tenzoracerevovii
for your stupid ass lies shut the fuck up....HAsport ecu ooh big fucken deal. Bring your shit down here to Cali....You would get smoked. Kick the real shit and stop bsin. :finger: :flipa:
Kick the real shit stupid ass....You keep dreamin stupid hick.
I hit you with facts and this is what you come back with?
Oh, BTW, I got ahold of an actual conversion calc (I was calculating from off-top of my head before) and here's the ACTUAL top-speed at 8100RPMs of the stock SIRII with the Y1/YS1 tranny:
241KPH=149.7MPH, or make that 150MPH rounded-off. Also, a couple of hundred pounds weight difference between your hatch and my 1990 Teg does NOT matter when you are talking about speeds above 140MPH. Think about this: Have you ever seen a 2nd Gen Teg and a Civ hatchback lowered the same height and sitting side-by-side? Try it and look who's lower...it's called AERODYNAMICS. Besides, you probably have one of those stupid hatch-wings anyway...NEWSFLASH...those cause drag.
Also, I AM FROM CALI BITCH. Sorry, mods...that was my one concession to immaturity.
One last thing...I never have ran my car on a timed track, but did beat a hooked-up 2000 Eclipse GT that ran a 14.7 at the track. He was a pretty consistent driver and we ran back-to-back with similar results...I beat him by a carlength (definition: his front bumper was at my back bumper).
Again dude, I am not, I repeat, am NOT responsible for your underachieveing engine...or you feeling that your dick's shorter than mine...:rolleyes:.
for your stupid ass lies shut the fuck up....HAsport ecu ooh big fucken deal. Bring your shit down here to Cali....You would get smoked. Kick the real shit and stop bsin. :finger: :flipa:
Kick the real shit stupid ass....You keep dreamin stupid hick.
I hit you with facts and this is what you come back with?
Oh, BTW, I got ahold of an actual conversion calc (I was calculating from off-top of my head before) and here's the ACTUAL top-speed at 8100RPMs of the stock SIRII with the Y1/YS1 tranny:
241KPH=149.7MPH, or make that 150MPH rounded-off. Also, a couple of hundred pounds weight difference between your hatch and my 1990 Teg does NOT matter when you are talking about speeds above 140MPH. Think about this: Have you ever seen a 2nd Gen Teg and a Civ hatchback lowered the same height and sitting side-by-side? Try it and look who's lower...it's called AERODYNAMICS. Besides, you probably have one of those stupid hatch-wings anyway...NEWSFLASH...those cause drag.
Also, I AM FROM CALI BITCH. Sorry, mods...that was my one concession to immaturity.
One last thing...I never have ran my car on a timed track, but did beat a hooked-up 2000 Eclipse GT that ran a 14.7 at the track. He was a pretty consistent driver and we ran back-to-back with similar results...I beat him by a carlength (definition: his front bumper was at my back bumper).
Again dude, I am not, I repeat, am NOT responsible for your underachieveing engine...or you feeling that your dick's shorter than mine...:rolleyes:.
carrrnuttt
03-09-2002, 03:45 AM
Here's the lowdown on the old Teg:
White 1990 Acura Integra GS
Stock outside, with exception of color-matched molding and JDM one-piece headlights with Hyper-White bulbs.
JDM b16 engine with the optional LSD included with the Y1 tranny.
Weapon-R intake
Nology Hotwires
Bosch Platinum+4's
Comptech 4-into-1 headers
repipe from headers to the super-hi-flow cat (if you can still call it a cat...it had no screens), all the way to the Weapon-R universal muffler.
Hasport custom ECU, with raised RPMs and VTEC switch-off.
Stock steel wheels painted black from a Civic (believe it or not, the steelies are a LOT lighter than most street-rims, with exception the race-ready JDM 15-inch lightweights...i.e., Mugen and Volks).
Minus 2 degrees ignition timing (recommended by the ECUs programmer)
MobilOne synthetic oil
Good and regular maintenance/tune-up
Octane boost (108 octane) every 2-3 fill-ups.
White 1990 Acura Integra GS
Stock outside, with exception of color-matched molding and JDM one-piece headlights with Hyper-White bulbs.
JDM b16 engine with the optional LSD included with the Y1 tranny.
Weapon-R intake
Nology Hotwires
Bosch Platinum+4's
Comptech 4-into-1 headers
repipe from headers to the super-hi-flow cat (if you can still call it a cat...it had no screens), all the way to the Weapon-R universal muffler.
Hasport custom ECU, with raised RPMs and VTEC switch-off.
Stock steel wheels painted black from a Civic (believe it or not, the steelies are a LOT lighter than most street-rims, with exception the race-ready JDM 15-inch lightweights...i.e., Mugen and Volks).
Minus 2 degrees ignition timing (recommended by the ECUs programmer)
MobilOne synthetic oil
Good and regular maintenance/tune-up
Octane boost (108 octane) every 2-3 fill-ups.
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-09-2002, 12:14 PM
go get your car dyno'ed and bring the results back it'll tell you top speed max horse power
carrrnuttt
03-09-2002, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
go get your car dyno'ed and bring the results back it'll tell you top speed max horse power
Sorry, can't do it...if you read my other post, you'll understand why...
go get your car dyno'ed and bring the results back it'll tell you top speed max horse power
Sorry, can't do it...if you read my other post, you'll understand why...
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-10-2002, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Sorry, can't do it...if you read my other post, you'll understand why...
you posted too much just write it outright already....
Sorry, can't do it...if you read my other post, you'll understand why...
you posted too much just write it outright already....
carrrnuttt
03-10-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
you posted too much just write it outright already....
Simple...the stock internals couldn't take the constant high-RPM thrashing and one day it went BOOM!
you posted too much just write it outright already....
Simple...the stock internals couldn't take the constant high-RPM thrashing and one day it went BOOM!
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-10-2002, 11:15 PM
o ok :D
brads94accord
03-14-2002, 10:38 PM
omg i sooooo call BS you drive a frigin civic those are slowest cars made by honda other than the insight. even with new rods and race gas and all that other BS your still only pushing around 170hp. i beat lightly modded civics all the time in my accord and my accord is slow as hell. that says a lot about civics there. an SS has about 340hp and a tt rx-7 has around 260 hp. thats why i hate almost all civic drivers, cause they think they have the fastest cars on the road. but some of them realize their cars are slow and accept that. i even think accords are slow. a civic is an economy car!! and an accord is a family car!!
carrrnuttt
03-14-2002, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by brads94accord
omg i sooooo call BS you drive a frigin civic those are slowest cars made by honda other than the insight. even with new rods and race gas and all that other BS your still only pushing around 170hp. i beat lightly modded civics all the time in my accord and my accord is slow as hell. that says a lot about civics there. an SS has about 340hp and a tt rx-7 has around 260 hp. thats why i hate almost all civic drivers, cause they think they have the fastest cars on the road. but some of them realize their cars are slow and accept that. i even think accords are slow. a civic is an economy car!! and an accord is a family car!!
This is what Midol is for...
You'd think a freakin' Civic killed his pet or sumthin...
omg i sooooo call BS you drive a frigin civic those are slowest cars made by honda other than the insight. even with new rods and race gas and all that other BS your still only pushing around 170hp. i beat lightly modded civics all the time in my accord and my accord is slow as hell. that says a lot about civics there. an SS has about 340hp and a tt rx-7 has around 260 hp. thats why i hate almost all civic drivers, cause they think they have the fastest cars on the road. but some of them realize their cars are slow and accept that. i even think accords are slow. a civic is an economy car!! and an accord is a family car!!
This is what Midol is for...
You'd think a freakin' Civic killed his pet or sumthin...
kidrocket
03-14-2002, 11:20 PM
ill bet i could take your accord. wanna put some money on it?
00accord44
03-19-2002, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by kidrocket
ill bet i could take your accord. wanna put some money on it?
I hate to add to this madness.(No I dont!) :devil:
But, Brad, you're being ridiculous with this whole "death to Civics" thing. There are fast Civics out there. In fact, SCC just had an article about a Civic that hits 185.
And, based on kidrocket's mod list, he could beat your accord
sorry
ill bet i could take your accord. wanna put some money on it?
I hate to add to this madness.(No I dont!) :devil:
But, Brad, you're being ridiculous with this whole "death to Civics" thing. There are fast Civics out there. In fact, SCC just had an article about a Civic that hits 185.
And, based on kidrocket's mod list, he could beat your accord
sorry
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-19-2002, 12:43 AM
this thread is a sticky some one make it that i wanna see the girls time slips still
brads94accord
03-21-2002, 07:31 PM
i never said that i could beat him. i never wanted to start a race or anything. my accord is slow. i'll admit there are some fast civics, but the majority of them are slow as hell and the people that drive them(the slow civics) think that the cars are fast. but what i was getting at is the whole thing about racing a tt rx-7 and an ss camaro is BS. a kid in my chem class says his 97 civic dx 4 door with (these are the exact words out of his mouth) "forced cold air induction system" and "motec system exhaust" ran an 11 in the quarter mile the other night, and a 14 last night. i just laughed and walked away, knowing that motec makes engine managment system and doesn't make exhaust. people like that are the ones i hate. but the folks that actually know what they are doing and do the right mods to their car for the most power gains are the people i am cool with.
brads94accord
03-21-2002, 07:34 PM
obtw i am talking about the people in thei dx,lx, and ex civics. i am cool with si's and the people with si and teggy motor swaps.
00accord44
03-21-2002, 10:05 PM
Well, I understand you point a little better now. Some people in slow Civics do think theyre fast. But the way you were talking before made it sound like you think ALL civics are slow and CAN'T be fast.
BTW, smack that kid in your chem class for me. I'm sure you wanted to when he said it. Any driver who goes to the track one day and runs 11's then goes the next day to run 14's needs to be taking his Motec exhaust, Jackson Racing Turbocharger, Wings West CAI, and AEM racing slicks back to Pep Boys.:flipa:
BTW, smack that kid in your chem class for me. I'm sure you wanted to when he said it. Any driver who goes to the track one day and runs 11's then goes the next day to run 14's needs to be taking his Motec exhaust, Jackson Racing Turbocharger, Wings West CAI, and AEM racing slicks back to Pep Boys.:flipa:
NSX-R-SSJ20K
03-21-2002, 10:20 PM
clarity is good when it comes to making an arguement think about that before you post again
and yes dx engines suck
and yes dx engines suck
kidrocket
03-21-2002, 10:46 PM
i got no beef brad, not like my mod list is extensive or anything lol
MadDog06
03-21-2002, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by brads94accord
a kid in my chem class says his 97 civic dx 4 door with (these are the exact words out of his mouth) "forced cold air induction system" and "motec system exhaust" ran an 11 in the quarter mile the other night, and a 14 last night.
They probly said something about a "motec system exhaust" in The fast N the furious....
a kid in my chem class says his 97 civic dx 4 door with (these are the exact words out of his mouth) "forced cold air induction system" and "motec system exhaust" ran an 11 in the quarter mile the other night, and a 14 last night.
They probly said something about a "motec system exhaust" in The fast N the furious....
brads94accord
03-22-2002, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by MadDog06
They probly said something about a "motec system exhaust" in The fast N the furious.... yeah, i was like youve been watching fast and the furious too much. motec doesn't make exhuast, they make engine management systems for race cars. he didn't even know what an engine management system is, then he tells me, im a momma's boy, my mom bought my car, rims, "forced cold air induction system", and motec exhaust, and the "cobra eye" lights. i was like well i work for all of my mods, and the ones i do, i research on and get the ones that would boost my power the best. oh yeah he says the drag strip he races at is called "speed zone" he said they made it from measuring a quarter mile on some back road in the boonies, and they use a stop watch. he also says hes getting "an 8 pound turbo" in a few weeks. i told him to come to one of our meets this weekend and we're all gonna roast on him, and show him whats up.
They probly said something about a "motec system exhaust" in The fast N the furious.... yeah, i was like youve been watching fast and the furious too much. motec doesn't make exhuast, they make engine management systems for race cars. he didn't even know what an engine management system is, then he tells me, im a momma's boy, my mom bought my car, rims, "forced cold air induction system", and motec exhaust, and the "cobra eye" lights. i was like well i work for all of my mods, and the ones i do, i research on and get the ones that would boost my power the best. oh yeah he says the drag strip he races at is called "speed zone" he said they made it from measuring a quarter mile on some back road in the boonies, and they use a stop watch. he also says hes getting "an 8 pound turbo" in a few weeks. i told him to come to one of our meets this weekend and we're all gonna roast on him, and show him whats up.
LjasonL
03-22-2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by brads94accord
he also says hes getting "an 8 pound turbo" in a few weeks.
NIIICE...:rolleyes: :hehe: :hehehe:
he also says hes getting "an 8 pound turbo" in a few weeks.
NIIICE...:rolleyes: :hehe: :hehehe:
S2Corolla
03-22-2002, 04:09 PM
??? I don't know if you guys gave up or what not, but I back up carrrnut on what he said about the whole MPH thing. My friend has a 1996 Integra GS-R, really mint condition. He let me run it against this IROC-Z. I beat the IROC Z by a car length, and I know for a FACT, we hit 155, because we raced all the way into the GSR's middle fifth gear. I remember looking at the speedo, it goes up to 145 or 150 I think. It just says 140 and it has markers after that, and it maxed it out and I went for like ten seconds passed maxing it out. I talked to the guy in the IROC and he said he was about to hit 160 and he just flashed me with the high beams because the race was over at like 85, but he didn't want to lose.
Oh and on LS-Vtec... Dude if that girl has a hatch back, then hell yeah it's possible she beat an SS. Let me tell you something. Drag racing is different from any type of form of street racing. Drag racing, you NEED rwd torque to get off the line because of the strip, but on street there's pavement, or gravel, and both cars have a fair shot. Now my friend has a 95' Camaro Z28, it's 5 speed, I don't think they had the 6 speed's yet... And he got his ass handed to him by a hatchback with a GSR motor. I'm talking about getting smoked BAD. And the GSR was stock. An SS is only about half a second, maybe less, faster than a Z28. The Z28 pulls in 13.9 and the SS pulls in 13.5. That GSR hatch had to have at least a second or more off the Z28's. And I know for a fact LSVtecs can pull more hp than a GSR because of the midrange hp and the high rpm horsepower of Vtec. All it is is an LS motor, which has really good midrange hp that get's good high rpm horsepower because of the valve timing of a vtec head. The main reason LS motors are sorry in high rpm is because they don't have vtec so their valves don't open up more. So it is HIGHLY possible that she gave that Camaro SS the sleep. And I wouldn't LET a girl beat me if she was cute. I'd beat her. A girl isn't going to give you the light of day if you LET her beat you. They don't like giveaways, come on, I thought you guys knew about women. They like competition, but they like guys that try and don't give them the advantage just because they're hot.
Props on the kill GURLSVTEC, I believe you.
I thought these guys would back you up coz they're from Honda, but I guess not.
Oh and on LS-Vtec... Dude if that girl has a hatch back, then hell yeah it's possible she beat an SS. Let me tell you something. Drag racing is different from any type of form of street racing. Drag racing, you NEED rwd torque to get off the line because of the strip, but on street there's pavement, or gravel, and both cars have a fair shot. Now my friend has a 95' Camaro Z28, it's 5 speed, I don't think they had the 6 speed's yet... And he got his ass handed to him by a hatchback with a GSR motor. I'm talking about getting smoked BAD. And the GSR was stock. An SS is only about half a second, maybe less, faster than a Z28. The Z28 pulls in 13.9 and the SS pulls in 13.5. That GSR hatch had to have at least a second or more off the Z28's. And I know for a fact LSVtecs can pull more hp than a GSR because of the midrange hp and the high rpm horsepower of Vtec. All it is is an LS motor, which has really good midrange hp that get's good high rpm horsepower because of the valve timing of a vtec head. The main reason LS motors are sorry in high rpm is because they don't have vtec so their valves don't open up more. So it is HIGHLY possible that she gave that Camaro SS the sleep. And I wouldn't LET a girl beat me if she was cute. I'd beat her. A girl isn't going to give you the light of day if you LET her beat you. They don't like giveaways, come on, I thought you guys knew about women. They like competition, but they like guys that try and don't give them the advantage just because they're hot.
Props on the kill GURLSVTEC, I believe you.
I thought these guys would back you up coz they're from Honda, but I guess not.
jOYRiDe
03-22-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Oh, BTW, I got ahold of an actual conversion calc (I was calculating from off-top of my head before) and here's the ACTUAL top-speed at 8100RPMs of the stock SIRII with the Y1/YS1 tranny:241KPH=149.7MPH,
im not flaming u or anything carnuttt cos u one cool bloke, but my brother has a JDM B16A SiR-II from an EG6 (or 9 i cant remember) hatch and he has claimed to only get it up to 185km/h cos of the rev limiter (it red lines at 8250rpm all the way to nine thousand and something)
go here to see the EG gauge cluster www.picturetrail.com and type in xtatik as the member name. look for the car pics.
*edit* i forgot to mention he's got LSD too
Oh, BTW, I got ahold of an actual conversion calc (I was calculating from off-top of my head before) and here's the ACTUAL top-speed at 8100RPMs of the stock SIRII with the Y1/YS1 tranny:241KPH=149.7MPH,
im not flaming u or anything carnuttt cos u one cool bloke, but my brother has a JDM B16A SiR-II from an EG6 (or 9 i cant remember) hatch and he has claimed to only get it up to 185km/h cos of the rev limiter (it red lines at 8250rpm all the way to nine thousand and something)
go here to see the EG gauge cluster www.picturetrail.com and type in xtatik as the member name. look for the car pics.
*edit* i forgot to mention he's got LSD too
LjasonL
03-22-2002, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by S2Corolla
[Bthe SS pulls in 13.5. That GSR hatch had to have at least a second or more off the Z28's. And I know for a fact LSVtecs can pull more hp than a GSR because of the midrange hp and the high rpm horsepower of Vtec.[/B]
ss's have hit 12's stock. and a gsr motor is a vtec.
[Bthe SS pulls in 13.5. That GSR hatch had to have at least a second or more off the Z28's. And I know for a fact LSVtecs can pull more hp than a GSR because of the midrange hp and the high rpm horsepower of Vtec.[/B]
ss's have hit 12's stock. and a gsr motor is a vtec.
Self
03-22-2002, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by ldelaysionl
ss's have hit 12's stock. and a gsr motor is a vtec.
Stock is misleading...That's with new tires, a PERFECT launch, PERFECT shifting, and PERFECT weather and track conditions. A much more common SS time is 13.3 - 13.6. Either way, they're darn fast. Also, I an LS-VTEC is an LS motor with either a GSR or Type R(or I've also heard of SI) head, giving it VTEC. I didn't think they typically made more horsepower than GSRs though. I thought that they would make about the same amount of hp as GSRs but with the increased torque of the LS motor.
ss's have hit 12's stock. and a gsr motor is a vtec.
Stock is misleading...That's with new tires, a PERFECT launch, PERFECT shifting, and PERFECT weather and track conditions. A much more common SS time is 13.3 - 13.6. Either way, they're darn fast. Also, I an LS-VTEC is an LS motor with either a GSR or Type R(or I've also heard of SI) head, giving it VTEC. I didn't think they typically made more horsepower than GSRs though. I thought that they would make about the same amount of hp as GSRs but with the increased torque of the LS motor.
carrrnuttt
03-22-2002, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by jOYRiDe
im not flaming u or anything carnuttt cos u one cool bloke, but my brother has a JDM B16A SiR-II from an EG6 (or 9 i cant remember) hatch and he has claimed to only get it up to 185km/h cos of the rev limiter (it red lines at 8250rpm all the way to nine thousand and something)
go here to see the EG gauge cluster www.picturetrail.com and type in xtatik as the member name. look for the car pics.
*edit* i forgot to mention he's got LSD too
Nah, don't worry about it. I know where you're coming from. Think of this though, Japan (where by law, cars are governed to about 115MPH) or not, how long do you think that governor is gonna stay on a real enthusiasts' car? I know my old governor on my JDM b16 lasted all of 2 weeks before I had to do something about it:D.
Self: The LS/VTECs usually add more HP. The added displacement does that, besides add TQ. Also, anybody who cares enough to spend the money for the conversion doesn't usually leave the internals alone. Most mechanics suggest/install beefed up internals while the engine is opened up.
im not flaming u or anything carnuttt cos u one cool bloke, but my brother has a JDM B16A SiR-II from an EG6 (or 9 i cant remember) hatch and he has claimed to only get it up to 185km/h cos of the rev limiter (it red lines at 8250rpm all the way to nine thousand and something)
go here to see the EG gauge cluster www.picturetrail.com and type in xtatik as the member name. look for the car pics.
*edit* i forgot to mention he's got LSD too
Nah, don't worry about it. I know where you're coming from. Think of this though, Japan (where by law, cars are governed to about 115MPH) or not, how long do you think that governor is gonna stay on a real enthusiasts' car? I know my old governor on my JDM b16 lasted all of 2 weeks before I had to do something about it:D.
Self: The LS/VTECs usually add more HP. The added displacement does that, besides add TQ. Also, anybody who cares enough to spend the money for the conversion doesn't usually leave the internals alone. Most mechanics suggest/install beefed up internals while the engine is opened up.
jOYRiDe
03-22-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Nah, don't worry about it. I know where you're coming from. Think of this though, Japan (where by law, cars are governed to about 115MPH) or not, how long do you think that governor is gonna stay on a real enthusiasts' car? I know my old governor on my JDM b16 lasted all of 2 weeks before I had to do something about it:D.
i know what u mean, 180km/h limit sux big time :thumbdown
Nah, don't worry about it. I know where you're coming from. Think of this though, Japan (where by law, cars are governed to about 115MPH) or not, how long do you think that governor is gonna stay on a real enthusiasts' car? I know my old governor on my JDM b16 lasted all of 2 weeks before I had to do something about it:D.
i know what u mean, 180km/h limit sux big time :thumbdown
VieTxRiceRocket
03-23-2002, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
hey hey i got a japanese video with a stock integra it has a 14.5 second quater mile
That's because the JDM ITR has 220 HP, not the 195 over in US. ;)
hey hey i got a japanese video with a stock integra it has a 14.5 second quater mile
That's because the JDM ITR has 220 HP, not the 195 over in US. ;)
mellowboy
03-23-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by VieTxRiceRocket
That's because the JDM ITR has 220 HP, not the 195 over in US. ;)
I believe its 200-210...definatley not 220 man.:)
That's because the JDM ITR has 220 HP, not the 195 over in US. ;)
I believe its 200-210...definatley not 220 man.:)
S2Corolla
03-24-2002, 04:55 AM
Damn... 14.5? That's crazy. That's big dog v8 territory. And the Type R has godlike suspension.
jOYRiDe
03-24-2002, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy
I believe its 200-210...definatley not 220 man.:)
i thought it was 220hp, just like the jdm type-s lude
I believe its 200-210...definatley not 220 man.:)
i thought it was 220hp, just like the jdm type-s lude
stoneage_tech
03-24-2002, 07:21 PM
RX7 didnt have enough stickers on dude , my 87 ford tempo twin vtech 7 cam monster spanks rx7s all da time i shift from like 1rst to 5th power skip shift and there like gone..... its all in the 4 foot wing baby .....the rx7 probably didnt know you were trying to race him or he was playing with you i do that every once and awhile when my #5 vtec cam acts up on me
Just playin
mike
Just playin
mike
mellowboy
03-24-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by jOYRiDe
i thought it was 220hp, just like the jdm type-s lude
Yeh but a type s is a whole different motor?:)
i thought it was 220hp, just like the jdm type-s lude
Yeh but a type s is a whole different motor?:)
jOYRiDe
03-24-2002, 08:18 PM
yeah the type-s is the h22a. i think it has the same hp output but more torque (obviously) than the type-r
carrrnuttt
03-24-2002, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by jOYRiDe
yeah the type-s is the h22a. i think it has the same hp output but more torque (obviously) than the type-r
The Prelude Type-S has the same engine as the European Accord-R. It's an h22 with a 220HP output. The JDM Integra Type-R is rated at 205HP. The 10HP difference with the USDM R engine is attributed to the higher compression used by JDM engines, and the higher octane gas they burn everyday.
Oh, torque is rated at about 168FT-LBS with the 'Lude-S h22, and the JDM 'Teg-R b18 is rated at 137TQ.
yeah the type-s is the h22a. i think it has the same hp output but more torque (obviously) than the type-r
The Prelude Type-S has the same engine as the European Accord-R. It's an h22 with a 220HP output. The JDM Integra Type-R is rated at 205HP. The 10HP difference with the USDM R engine is attributed to the higher compression used by JDM engines, and the higher octane gas they burn everyday.
Oh, torque is rated at about 168FT-LBS with the 'Lude-S h22, and the JDM 'Teg-R b18 is rated at 137TQ.
kidrocket
03-31-2002, 05:38 PM
SS's have pulled high 12s on stock tires too
Self
03-31-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by kidrocket
SS's have pulled high 12s on stock tires too
Never heard of or seen it, so I'm still very skeptical. In fact, up above when I said an LS1 had hit high twelves, I wasn't speaking of the SS, I actually meant the WS6(Firebird TA). For some reason, they're historically faster than their Chevy counterpart, the SS.
SS's have pulled high 12s on stock tires too
Never heard of or seen it, so I'm still very skeptical. In fact, up above when I said an LS1 had hit high twelves, I wasn't speaking of the SS, I actually meant the WS6(Firebird TA). For some reason, they're historically faster than their Chevy counterpart, the SS.
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