type-s vs. modded civic si

i have someone with a civic si that wants to race me for some money. He has a 00 civic si with cold air headers and i think maybe a short throw shifter. I have a stock type-s at the moment. He thinks he can take me but i still think i have a lot more horses than he has with his mods. what do you guys think?

He's running 160hp@7600 and 111lb.ft.@7000. Even with header, intake and st...you can take him. Show him the specs afterwards and tell him he's a complete retard when you take his money. Just make sure he's not turboed or anything. Tell us how it goes.

yeah.. thats what i figured..i couldn't believe it when he wanted to put money on it... and he isn't turboed.. i have checked on that.

im looking at getting an injen cai and dc sports race headers from club rsx here in about a month.. do you guys think thats a good idea?.. im not getting a full catback because i don't have that much cash and i also heard that the rsx's exaust are pretty good anyways. if there is anything i should get other than the cai and headers let me know.

Hondata! :thumbsup:

no contest.

rsx-s pwnz

DC Race Header and Injen CAI is a good combo, although Hondata would also be good.

And yeah, if itw as a base RSX he'd beat you, but you're going to beat him.

...If his a better Driver he'll take U...just cause u have the better car doesn't mean MUCH...his got a pretty good car 2...don't feel 2 cocky about racing him he probally has had that car for YEARS!! and he'll that really helps....so make sure not to feel to cocky and think ur all that cause Si's aren't a walk-in the park and second a "DRIVER IS HALF OF THE CAR"

If you lose to an SI with those specific mods, you're out of the family...

SBallerk2 - Well duh. And he'll have to be a pretty bad driver to lose....

ya the S should win.

A 4thGen Prelude would take u THO... ;)

but that's a different storie and I don't want to start anything....so let's me ON and say the RSX-S would WIN...

The RSX should win no problem, you got more hp and more torque!

Its a drivers race between the lude and S, with a slight advantage for the S :p

Slight advantage for the type s, i have a 4th gen lude, and ive test driven an S, there is no way a type can take lude.

Slight advantage for the type s, i have a 4th gen lude, and ive test driven an S, there is no way a type can take lude.

Horseshit. It's been done. Prelude is by no means infallible...

The Prelude is heavier than a McDonalds addict. 275 pound difference between that and the RSX.

hahaha....RSX just look like a MIni-Van...!!!...in the other hand 4thgen Lude's look like Mini-Supra's!!

one more thing it's funnny cause a 4th Gen Prelude weigths 2,800 and a RSX-S weight 2,700 and they both have about the same power just that the prelude has like 20 more torque and is like 10 year's OLDER!!! if u ask me the RSX-S is underpowerd

Oh guys I'm Sorry I didn't want to start anything :)

Those mods are going to add him around 10 crank horsepower, 8 to the wheels. That means youll be racing a 2600 lbs car with 170 hp. Youll be racing in a 200 hp 2800 lbs car.

Translating into a 185-190 horsepower car, against a 200 hp car, because of the 200 lbs difference, calculation is 8.5 hp loss per 100lbs of weight difference.

With your added low end torque, assuming your both equal drivers, you are going to take him.

If you were racing against me, probably not :)

Horseshit. It's been done. Prelude is by no means infallible...

RSX-S777 is right.

I am a 4th gen prelude vtec owner, and by no means is my car any faster than a Type-S. The Type-S has a slight advantage. This is purely a driver's race.

SBallerk2, you need to carefully watch your judgement on these type of issues, you're essentially throwing yourself into a pit of hungry tigers. And don't talk shit about me either, you have to remember, we drive the same car.

hahaha....RSX just look like a MIni-Van...!!!...in the other hand 4thgen Lude's look like Mini-Supra's!!
:rolleyes:

I will see if i can race a type s, and see what happens. I will prolly win because that thing has less torque. I have the jdm h22a in my 4th gen. There is no way im gonna lose

Well, there both fast...so that's that!!

sooooo....did he race?

Not yet, i gotta find someone with an s thats wants to race. Its a little hard these days to race in my area, because the cops are everywhere. Hopefully i can find someone and let you know what happens.

SBallerk2 - DRIVER IS HALF OF THE CAR.

:p

Minivan? Riiight. Supra? Yeah right.

*cough* extremely biased towards his own car and thinks its invincible *cough* ;)

dude...an RSX does look like a Minivan and c a 4th Gen Prelude from the back and then c a supra from the back and besdies the lights they look a lot like or should I say a Supra look's like a Prelude...since the Prelude is a year older 92 compare to the Supra 93 look...

LOOK at this Prelude...Made too look like a Mini-Supra...

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/424501

tell me that doesn't look like a mini-supra..oh y the way that's a Turbo Lude

:gives:

dude...an RSX does look like a Minivan and c a 4th Gen Prelude from the back and then c a supra from the back and besdies the lights they look a lot like or should I say a Supra look's like a Prelude...since the Prelude is a year older 92 compare to the Supra 93 look...

LOOK at this Prelude...Made too look like a Mini-Supra...

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/424501

tell me that doesn't look like a mini-supra..oh y the way that's a Turbo Lude
I don't know if you need glasses or something. If you think the RSX looks like a minivan, you must be blind. And I should know since I own a Dodge caravan and the RSX! :eek7:

And if you don't need glasses and you still think it looks like a minivan, it must be one sharp looking one! :rofl:

BTW, I took a look at that prelude and I still think it looks like a prelude. If I saw it on the street, I wouldn't even mistake it for a Supra.

That looks like a prelude.....and a minivan doesn't even work. Vans have four doors, SCRMOM4EVA as a license plate and unless they one of the few JDM ones they look horrible.

If you look at the tails of the RSX you might mistake the brake lights for that of a Ferrari:p

I mistook mine for a Murcielago the other day. Walked out of the house and almost had a stroke. Then I realized it was still just my Acura....

Oh, and in 2002 I also mistook a Prelude for an F-16. True story...


SCRMOM4EVA!

If it had a big enough wing it mighta been an F-22.

Pfft...an F16 can take an F-22 any day. F-22 looks like a minivan, anyway... :lol2:

we'll think what u guys want...but a RSX is way underpowerd for a 2004 car...A Prelude can take it with a good driver if not RSX would not win by much...NUFF SAID!!

Well, in that case, my Prelude is way underpowered for a 96 car. An RSX can take it with a good driver, if not, the Prelude would not win by much...NUFF SAID!!

You seriously need to think a lot more before you speak. Didn't you realize that what you just said would apply very much the same when put in the inverse situation?

signal....shut up and look at what u said....this MORON....a 04 compared to a 96 is about a 8 year 100 plus k mile car which makes ur and all prelude OLD!!!

signal get a RSX....u Lude hater....oh one more thing and we still got a bigger more TORQUE engine ahahahahahhaha I declare this SUBJECT CLOSED!! I REST MY CASE!!! (it's getting SILLY I'll be the bigger man and drop it)

You're really losing your points here....then you can say a MS Protege, Celica, Scion tC, and many others are underpowered for 2004/5.

If you're engine is so great, how come it doesn't have i-VTEC? How come its responsiveness to mods is pretty much nothing? How come boosting H22's isn't really the best thing? How come all prelude's are heavier than a hummer? And what about new technology in the K Series engine?

Put away the 2F2F DVD, it isn't all about straight line.

signal get a RSX....u Lude hater....oh one more thing and we still got a bigger more TORQUE engine ahahahahahhaha I declare this SUBJECT CLOSED!! I REST MY CASE!!! (it's getting SILLY I'll be the bigger man and drop it)
I rest MY case... :lol:

O.K. RSX-S is the fastest car out there.....i-VTEC hahahaha that's a good one....and yes all those car's r underpowerd u want real power get a WRX, Evo,Z Etc.

this guy i-VTEC....booooooo whoooooooo

Notice there's always one guy that needs to start that "fag Sh** " dude it's O.K. not the whole world can be a "fag" like u

y r u even downloading fag pic's even to post them that's kind of "fagged" shit...

Your points are going downhill, same can be said for your english skills.

Unlike you, i'm not saying my car is the fastest, i'm saying the RSX is better because of the points I made.

Please stay quiet before you make other Prelude owners seem as dumb as you are.

Straight line isn't everything

That's my whole point, senorita.

y r u even downloading fag pic's even to post them that's kind of "fagged" shit...
it r a pic taht b posteded all ovar t3h interw3b.


Look at the tag, its a pic right off this site.

signal....shut up and look at what u said....this MORON....a 04 compared to a 96 is about a 8 year 100 plus k mile car which makes ur and all prelude OLD!!!

signal get a RSX....u Lude hater....oh one more thing and we still got a bigger more TORQUE engine ahahahahahhaha I declare this SUBJECT CLOSED!! I REST MY CASE!!! (it's getting SILLY I'll be the bigger man and drop it)

My lude has 80k...

So what if i'm compairing an 04 to a 96? What about a 68 coronet 500 compared to our "NEWER" 92-96 ludes. Now who would win?

Age doesn't matter, Mileage doesn't matter.

Just because i know the truth about the RSX-S, and that I know its a driver's race, I'm all the sudden a lude hater? I take pride in my car, but i don't take it for something it isn't. The Lude is by no means unbeatable, it will take a lot of cars out there, but NOT unbeatable. Yes, our car has more torque, but its 200lbs heavier.

And yes, I am pretty sure you are the bigger man, making personal remarks/attacks towards others. I have not a single time in this thread made ANY personal attacks towards you, calling you a moron, gay, NOTHING, i've tried to make this as professional as possible. SBallerk2, I seriously don't have a problem with you, I just like to challenge peoples opinions. Why do you always have to take everything personally? You truly are a discgrace to the Prelude community.

By the way SBallerK2...I'm going to let you in on a little AF secret. You don't have to put every single one of your ill-thought out, spelling and grammar-error packed thoughts in a new post. Three CONSECUTIVE posts of that tripe can be easily fit into one, longer bullshit post. As far as interjecting actual facts and rational thoughts into those posts...I can't help you there- you're on your own.

P.S. Please don't tell my girlfriend I'm a giant fag. Thanks! :biggrin:

take it easy man.. and if you haven't noticed the wrx and, evo, and z your talkin about are all about 10k more than the s as in price. Those are underpowered to a freakin viper.. the list goes on and on.

stop hurting me :(

ha! I just Love Lude's!!

You can love Preludes. I love em' too. Just don't be an idiot about it. :smile:

My lude has 80k...

So what if i'm compairing an 04 to a 96? What about a 68 coronet 500 compared to our "NEWER" 92-96 ludes. Now who would win?

Age doesn't matter, Mileage doesn't matter.

Just because i know the truth about the RSX-S, and that I know its a driver's race, I'm all the sudden a lude hater? I take pride in my car, but i don't take it for something it isn't. The Lude is by no means unbeatable, it will take a lot of cars out there, but NOT unbeatable. Yes, our car has more torque, but its 200lbs heavier.

And yes, I am pretty sure you are the bigger man, making personal remarks/attacks towards others. I have not a single time in this thread made ANY personal attacks towards you, calling you a moron, gay, NOTHING, i've tried to make this as professional as possible. SBallerk2, I seriously don't have a problem with you, I just like to challenge peoples opinions. Why do you always have to take everything personally? You truly are a discgrace to the Prelude community.Thank you.

race yet?

Ok, now I have to say something here.

2001 Prelude TypeSH: curb weight 3042 lbs, 200 hp, 156 ftlbs., 0-60 7.2sec, max hp @ 7000 rpm, max torque @ 5250 rpm

2002 Acura RSX TypeS: curb weight 2766 lbs, 200 hp, 142 ftlbs, 0-60 6.7sec, max hp @ 7400 rpm, max torque @ 6000 rpm.

Taking all this in consideration, I don't know what you're looking at, but a TypeS is quicker than a TypeSH stock for stock and using the same driver. Just look at the 0-60 times and the max rpms and you'll see that. :shakehead

And I agree with what signal has said. There's no need to call people names here and doing so doesn't get your point across. He owns a prelude and has the right to say anything he feels about it. But notice that he doesn't call people names when his opinion differs from that of others.

So my advice is to grow up and learn how to talk without the insults. :nono:

mmont0 we we're talking about 93-96 VTEC Prelude's which r a bit faster and r 0-60 in 6.5sec's...but yeah a RSX-S probally should still beat a Prelude but I wouldn't be suprise if the Prelude took it either....I think it's a drivers RACE but then again stats show the RSX-S should win.........tho...Stats a side I don't c y not the Prelude can't take it just my thought...

Stats aside, my RSX is just as good as an Enzo. Why can't a beat one? Maybe they're to scared to challenge me.

And the RSX has gotten 6.1 in the 0-60 many times, and that's limited by its crappy tires.

hahaha...dude ur funny...a VTEC Prelude and RSX have almost the same engine's...with one having more Torque then the other and being .2 Liters bigger only difference...and my point on stats was that "it's not always based on stats" if they we're then there's no way muscle car's would loose and v6 Accords would be Dreamy...also u beating an ENZO hahaha I needed a good LAUGH THANKXXX

ur talking about a V12!!! get lost KID

Drivers being equal it is ALL based on stats. If a statistically superior car loses to a V6 Accord, the driver is a fucktard. And you STILL seem unable or unwilling to recognize/ factor in the weight difference between the Prelude and RSX-S...

Also, Canuck's comment about the Enzo, if I understood correctly, was a prime example of sarcasm.

dude...that's the point tell me one time in ur life two equal drivers raced??? everyone is different...some better some worst...point in case yes I do also think a RSX-S should beat a Prelude things being equal but that's not always true....I wouldn't be suprise to hear a Lude Vtec take out a RSX-S example if my friend told me today he beat a RSX-S I would belive now if he told me a he beat Enzo ...I would point and LAUGH!!!! hahahaha