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JustinP10
02-01-2002, 12:50 AM
Wow! Well, i guess a big polishing wheel on a bench grinder would make pretty fast work of it, but man, talk about some labor! Oh yeah... It would look mighty nice :sun:
b-b00gie
02-01-2002, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by P10DET
Actually, way too rich. You vent the air. The fuel is added in the manifold, almost at the valves. The ECU will think more air is there than there is and add the appropriate amount of fuel. But the air won't be there so there will be too much fuel.
I dunno what I was thinking... I meant rich not lean. Hehe.. I even said you would be missing air since you are venting. Therefore producing a rich state, which is where I was going w/ the too much fuel thing.
Actually, way too rich. You vent the air. The fuel is added in the manifold, almost at the valves. The ECU will think more air is there than there is and add the appropriate amount of fuel. But the air won't be there so there will be too much fuel.
I dunno what I was thinking... I meant rich not lean. Hehe.. I even said you would be missing air since you are venting. Therefore producing a rich state, which is where I was going w/ the too much fuel thing.
cliffud
02-01-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by SE-R_Dan
... I wouldn't be buying his E36 M3 after all...
E36= mercedes right?
M3= bmw right?
I haven't kept up with the latest and greatest cars- is this a joint venture mobile?
:smoker:
-clifford
... I wouldn't be buying his E36 M3 after all...
E36= mercedes right?
M3= bmw right?
I haven't kept up with the latest and greatest cars- is this a joint venture mobile?
:smoker:
-clifford
JustinP10
02-01-2002, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by cliffud
E36= mercedes right?
M3= bmw right?
I haven't kept up with the latest and greatest cars- is this a joint venture mobile?
Actually E36 is the model of M3... the same as saying P10 G20 or P11 G20...
E36= mercedes right?
M3= bmw right?
I haven't kept up with the latest and greatest cars- is this a joint venture mobile?
Actually E36 is the model of M3... the same as saying P10 G20 or P11 G20...
b-b00gie
02-01-2002, 01:22 PM
M3 is a model name like "G20"
E36 is a chassis... like "P11" or "P10"
E46 M3 is the newest one. Before that there was the E36 M3, and the first was the E30 M3
E36 is a chassis... like "P11" or "P10"
E46 M3 is the newest one. Before that there was the E36 M3, and the first was the E30 M3
b-b00gie
02-01-2002, 01:24 PM
hehe... beat me to the submit button Justin! :p
cliffud
02-01-2002, 01:25 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok...
neat.
btw- i got toasted by a M3 the other day... but then again- who doesn't with a p10?
:smoker:
-clifford
neat.
btw- i got toasted by a M3 the other day... but then again- who doesn't with a p10?
:smoker:
-clifford
ales
02-01-2002, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by cliffud
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok...
neat.
btw- i got toasted by a M3 the other day... but then again- who doesn't with a p10?
:smoker:
-clifford
Geo :) ;) :right:
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok...
neat.
btw- i got toasted by a M3 the other day... but then again- who doesn't with a p10?
:smoker:
-clifford
Geo :) ;) :right:
SE-R_Dan
02-01-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by cliffud
i got toasted by a M3 the other day... but then again- who doesn't with a p10?
...from Luke's story, sounds like I won't get toasted in my P11 either.
The intercooler piping sounds intriguing. I might do some Swain coating black body emitter (Roffe style). Not as pretty as polished aluminum, but more functional. Do we have any materials engineers out there who can quantify the difference in heat dissipation properties?
i got toasted by a M3 the other day... but then again- who doesn't with a p10?
...from Luke's story, sounds like I won't get toasted in my P11 either.
The intercooler piping sounds intriguing. I might do some Swain coating black body emitter (Roffe style). Not as pretty as polished aluminum, but more functional. Do we have any materials engineers out there who can quantify the difference in heat dissipation properties?
cliffud
02-01-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by SE-R_Dan
...from Luke's story, sounds like I won't get toasted in my P11 either.
The intercooler piping sounds intriguing. I might do some Swain coating black body emitter (Roffe style). Not as pretty as polished aluminum, but more functional. Do we have any materials engineers out there who can quantify the difference in heat dissipation properties?
yeah i was wondering about that- isn't the specific heat of aluminum very low?? meaning that it takes less energy to raise it one degree in temperature... (gets hotter than other metals out there)
not good right?
-clifford
...from Luke's story, sounds like I won't get toasted in my P11 either.
The intercooler piping sounds intriguing. I might do some Swain coating black body emitter (Roffe style). Not as pretty as polished aluminum, but more functional. Do we have any materials engineers out there who can quantify the difference in heat dissipation properties?
yeah i was wondering about that- isn't the specific heat of aluminum very low?? meaning that it takes less energy to raise it one degree in temperature... (gets hotter than other metals out there)
not good right?
-clifford
Cue-Ball
02-01-2002, 05:05 PM
from what i understand, aluminum doesn't dissipate heat as well as other metals (copper, brass) but it's stronger and lighter so they can make fins out of thinner walled tubing and can make them larger as well. So, the metal itself is at a disadvantage but it's weight and stiffness allow it to be formed in such a way as to outweigh those disadvantages. This is true for radiators, at least. I would assume it would be the same for intercoolers as well.
kenchan
02-04-2002, 08:30 PM
luke, did i beat you to it? got a 2002 WRX today MT hehehe. :p
cliffud
02-04-2002, 10:59 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
all these g20 owners are defecting!!!!!!!!
-clifford
all these g20 owners are defecting!!!!!!!!
-clifford
kenchan
02-04-2002, 11:11 PM
nono, my p11 is still here and will be for at least a few more years. its my wife's car now. sold the civic hb...was planning on getting a rsx, but got a good deal on the wrx and also, i have a prelude so the rsx would be too similar... ya know. wrx is a funky lookin car...but im starting to like it.
P10DET
02-04-2002, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by SE-R_Dan
...from Luke's story, sounds like I won't get toasted in my P11 either.
Despite our excellent handling, I think they'll leave us in the twisties. They have a better chassis.
Originally posted by SE-R_Dan
The intercooler piping sounds intriguing. I might do some Swain coating black body emitter (Roffe style). Not as pretty as polished aluminum, but more functional. Do we have any materials engineers out there who can quantify the difference in heat dissipation properties?
Dan, there was a discussion about this on the SE-R list about a month or three ago (no longer than that). Someone posted some equations for figuring some of that out.
BTW, the black on my IC is taking a beating mounted in the lower grill. I'm going to have to touch it up now and then. But, you still cannot tell there is an IC there unless you're really on the ball.
...from Luke's story, sounds like I won't get toasted in my P11 either.
Despite our excellent handling, I think they'll leave us in the twisties. They have a better chassis.
Originally posted by SE-R_Dan
The intercooler piping sounds intriguing. I might do some Swain coating black body emitter (Roffe style). Not as pretty as polished aluminum, but more functional. Do we have any materials engineers out there who can quantify the difference in heat dissipation properties?
Dan, there was a discussion about this on the SE-R list about a month or three ago (no longer than that). Someone posted some equations for figuring some of that out.
BTW, the black on my IC is taking a beating mounted in the lower grill. I'm going to have to touch it up now and then. But, you still cannot tell there is an IC there unless you're really on the ball.
P10DET
02-04-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by G-Forces
:huh: Why do you keep saying this? I don't care if you vent to the atmostphere, it's just air. However the car might run a bit better if you recirculate it
Actually, recirculating it will definitely correct a driveability issue Luke and I have discussed a few times.
:huh: Why do you keep saying this? I don't care if you vent to the atmostphere, it's just air. However the car might run a bit better if you recirculate it
Actually, recirculating it will definitely correct a driveability issue Luke and I have discussed a few times.
G22DET
02-04-2002, 11:25 PM
why hide the intercooler by coating it black...OK, perhaps it DOES lower the temp like 3degrees...but what's wrong with leaving it silver?
JustinP10
02-04-2002, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by G22DET
why hide the intercooler by coating it black...OK, perhaps it DOES lower the temp like 3degrees...but what's wrong with leaving it silver?
The term grand theft auto comes to mind :D
why hide the intercooler by coating it black...OK, perhaps it DOES lower the temp like 3degrees...but what's wrong with leaving it silver?
The term grand theft auto comes to mind :D
P10DET
02-04-2002, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by G22DET
why hide the intercooler by coating it black...OK, perhaps it DOES lower the temp like 3degrees...but what's wrong with leaving it silver?
Christ, and you jumped my shit about my wheels (bling bling and all that crap :) ).
Oh, and there's nothing wrong with leaving it silver. I just prefer the understatement and stealth.
why hide the intercooler by coating it black...OK, perhaps it DOES lower the temp like 3degrees...but what's wrong with leaving it silver?
Christ, and you jumped my shit about my wheels (bling bling and all that crap :) ).
Oh, and there's nothing wrong with leaving it silver. I just prefer the understatement and stealth.
Mrcoilover
02-05-2002, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by P10DET
Christ, and you jumped my shit about my wheels (bling bling and all that crap :) ).
Actually, I'm not sure who said it but your rims are not bling blingin. You all know chrome is the only thing that bling blings, besides platinum...but who has platinum wheels?:huh:
Christ, and you jumped my shit about my wheels (bling bling and all that crap :) ).
Actually, I'm not sure who said it but your rims are not bling blingin. You all know chrome is the only thing that bling blings, besides platinum...but who has platinum wheels?:huh:
cliffud
02-05-2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Mrcoilover
Actually, I'm not sure who said it but your rims are not bling blingin. You all know chrome is the only thing that bling blings, besides platinum...but who has platinum wheels?:huh:
...taping a rolex to your stock rims for "blinginess"...
good idea? bad idea?
:rolleyes:
-clifford
(actually, i'd rather tape cats to my tires and go for a spin around the block instead... *thud thud thud thud thud thud* i hate cats...)
Actually, I'm not sure who said it but your rims are not bling blingin. You all know chrome is the only thing that bling blings, besides platinum...but who has platinum wheels?:huh:
...taping a rolex to your stock rims for "blinginess"...
good idea? bad idea?
:rolleyes:
-clifford
(actually, i'd rather tape cats to my tires and go for a spin around the block instead... *thud thud thud thud thud thud* i hate cats...)
Mrcoilover
02-05-2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by cliffud
...taping a rolex to your stock rims for "blinginess"...
good idea? bad idea?
:rolleyes:
-clifford
(actually, i'd rather tape cats to my tires and go for a spin around the block instead... *thud thud thud thud thud thud* i hate cats...)
As long as it's not my cat. The rolex is not a good idea though. How bout a nice chain?:bloated:
...taping a rolex to your stock rims for "blinginess"...
good idea? bad idea?
:rolleyes:
-clifford
(actually, i'd rather tape cats to my tires and go for a spin around the block instead... *thud thud thud thud thud thud* i hate cats...)
As long as it's not my cat. The rolex is not a good idea though. How bout a nice chain?:bloated:
cliffud
02-05-2002, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Mrcoilover
As long as it's not my cat. The rolex is not a good idea though. How bout a nice chain?:bloated:
you mean like snow chains?
hrmmmmmm... and if they were polished and ohhhhhh- taken care of and i'd snuggle them, and caress them, and pet them, ohhh- you're a naughty little chain huh?
(my impersonation of the late chris farley)
-clifford
:D
As long as it's not my cat. The rolex is not a good idea though. How bout a nice chain?:bloated:
you mean like snow chains?
hrmmmmmm... and if they were polished and ohhhhhh- taken care of and i'd snuggle them, and caress them, and pet them, ohhh- you're a naughty little chain huh?
(my impersonation of the late chris farley)
-clifford
:D
G-Forces
02-05-2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by cliffud
hrmmmmmm... and if they were polished and ohhhhhh- taken care of and i'd snuggle them, and caress them, and pet them, ohhh- you're a naughty little chain huh?
DUDE! :eek:
I think the newsgroup you want is over at alt.chain.sex. :D
hrmmmmmm... and if they were polished and ohhhhhh- taken care of and i'd snuggle them, and caress them, and pet them, ohhh- you're a naughty little chain huh?
DUDE! :eek:
I think the newsgroup you want is over at alt.chain.sex. :D
TeamNissan
02-09-2002, 06:33 AM
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I have been away for waaaaaaayyyyyyyy to looooong!!! :bloated:
How can you sell a part of yourself Luke!? Have you been tested for drugs!?*LOL*
Hmmmmm a BIG CONGRAT to Dan you are one LUCKY ba..... ;)
and Luke, can't wait to hear what you are going to throw yourself into now! :)
How can you sell a part of yourself Luke!? Have you been tested for drugs!?*LOL*
Hmmmmm a BIG CONGRAT to Dan you are one LUCKY ba..... ;)
and Luke, can't wait to hear what you are going to throw yourself into now! :)
cliffud
02-09-2002, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by G-Forces
DUDE! :eek:
I think the newsgroup you want is over at alt.chain.sex. :D
Yeah- I use to be over there- but they kicked me out and sent me over to this newsgroup.
:rolleyes:
-clifford
DUDE! :eek:
I think the newsgroup you want is over at alt.chain.sex. :D
Yeah- I use to be over there- but they kicked me out and sent me over to this newsgroup.
:rolleyes:
-clifford
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