Intermediate steering shaft 2000 impala
winterover
06-11-2004, 09:08 PM
Anyone out there know how to remove and replace the ISS? My ISS is in dire need of a lube job or replacement....but I haven't found any good info on how to actually remove it and what it looks like etc. I've seen the TSB on how to lube it once it's out.... but I have no idea on how to get it out. I'd love to see some pictures or illustration of it.
micali
03-26-2005, 12:48 PM
check out www.impalahq.com I think they have a detailed description on how to do it.
Pat_OD
03-26-2005, 09:01 PM
from what i've been told its a really bad idea to do it yourself. But hell i may have been lied to :/
winterover
03-26-2005, 11:12 PM
I go round and round on this.... I have checked the impalahq web site and found good stuff there but nothing on how to actually remove it. I've also got a friend with a 2000 Silverado with the same ISS problem... he changed his out in less than 2 hours... I think I could do it, if I just had some kind of simple instructions. Thanks for replying... I know... I should just spend the 300 bucks to have it done... but I"ve had to spend so much money having other things done to this car that I hate to give the dealer any more money!!!
MoNsTeR`ImPaLa
03-27-2005, 03:56 PM
There is a tsb out for the ISS its not a recall but an update check with your dealer and or call GM and yell and complain you might get a new ISS for free not might you should !
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01-02-32-001A
Steering - Clunk Noise While Turning
November, 2001
Models: 2001-2002 Buick Regal, 2000-2002 Cadillac Seville, 1997-2002 Chevrolet Cavalier, 2000-2002 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo, 2001-2002 Oldsmobile Aurora, 1998-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue,2000-2002 Pontiac Bonneville, Sunfire
This bulletin is being revised to add models and change the Correction information.
Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from the front of the vehicle during a turning maneuver. This condition may also be felt through the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary and the wheel is rotated from steering stop to steering stop. Typically, the clunk noise will be heard once for every 180°of steering wheel rotation in either direction for J-cars (Cavalier and Sunfire). However, some vehicles may only exhibit the noise once for every 360°of wheel rotation. On all other vehicles, this clunk noise will be noticed during low speed acceleration or deceleration, typically in light turns of the steering wheel.
Important: Do not replace the following steering gear part numbers:
GM P/N 26063582
GM P/N 26056808
GM P/N 26031078
GM P/N 26079915
GM P/N 26055468
GM P/N 26079917
GM P/N 26079929
GM P/N 26081813
GM P/N 26080057
GM P/N 26088612
GM P/N 26086001
GM P/N 26088334
GM P/N 26088539
GM P/N 26068964
GM P/N 26058681
GM P/N 26068967
GM P/N 26088606
GM P/N 26067451
GM P/N 26087241
GM P/N 26087416
Do not replace the following intermediate shafts:
GM P/N 26050292
GM P/N 26078302
GM P/N 26079240
GM P/N 26073020
GM P/N 22680754
This condition is commonly misdiagnosed as originating in the steering gear and has resulted in the replacement of numerous steering gears without correcting the concern.
Cause
This condition may be caused by inadequate lubrication of the steering intermediate shaft which results in a "slip stick" condition possibly resulting in the clunk noise.
Correction
Remove the intermediate steering shaft from the vehicle and lubricate the shaft with a Steering Column Shaft Lubrication Kit, P/N 26098237. Follow the service procedure listed below.
Remove the steering intermediate shaft from the vehicle. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement in the appropriate Service Manual.
Fully extend the intermediate shaft by pulling the two shafts apart.
Apply the grease supplied in the Steering Column Shaft Lubrication Kit in the aluminum end of the yoke opening. Direct the syringe tip as deep as possible into the yoke and dispense the full content of the syringe.
Install the rubber stop plug from the Steering Column Shaft Lubrication kit into the yoke opening.
Secure the rubber plug by swinging the upper yoke 90°. One ear of the yoke should press the rubber plug in.
Use a hard surface to ease the collapse of the intermediate shaft. It is best to use a pumping action when collapsing the shaft. Collapse the shaft as far as possible.
Important: Make sure the intermediate shaft is being pressed over the ears of the solid shaft.
Remove the rubber stopper plug from the yoke end of the shaft.
Slowly extend the intermediate shaft apart.
Inspect the intermediate shaft for a minimum of 5 mm (0.2 in) (a) of grease on the shaft splines.
Repeat steps 4-9 if less than 5 mm (0.2 in) of grease is on the shaft splines.
Important: Before installing the intermediate shaft in the vehicle, make sure to stroke and extend the intermediate shaft at least 15 TIMES to completely lubricate the internal surface of the slip joint.
Reinstall the intermediate shaft into the vehicle. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement in the appropriate Service Manual.
Parts Information
Parts are currently available from GMSPO.
Part Number Description
26098237 Steering Column Shaft Lube Kit
Warranty Information
Labor Operation Description Labor Time
E7700 R&R Shaft Steering Intermediate Use Published Time
Add: Lubricate Steering Shaft 0.1 hr
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use the table as shown.
information from impalahq.com
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01-02-32-001A
Steering - Clunk Noise While Turning
November, 2001
Models: 2001-2002 Buick Regal, 2000-2002 Cadillac Seville, 1997-2002 Chevrolet Cavalier, 2000-2002 Chevrolet Impala, Monte Carlo, 2001-2002 Oldsmobile Aurora, 1998-2002 Oldsmobile Intrigue,2000-2002 Pontiac Bonneville, Sunfire
This bulletin is being revised to add models and change the Correction information.
Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from the front of the vehicle during a turning maneuver. This condition may also be felt through the steering wheel when the vehicle is stationary and the wheel is rotated from steering stop to steering stop. Typically, the clunk noise will be heard once for every 180°of steering wheel rotation in either direction for J-cars (Cavalier and Sunfire). However, some vehicles may only exhibit the noise once for every 360°of wheel rotation. On all other vehicles, this clunk noise will be noticed during low speed acceleration or deceleration, typically in light turns of the steering wheel.
Important: Do not replace the following steering gear part numbers:
GM P/N 26063582
GM P/N 26056808
GM P/N 26031078
GM P/N 26079915
GM P/N 26055468
GM P/N 26079917
GM P/N 26079929
GM P/N 26081813
GM P/N 26080057
GM P/N 26088612
GM P/N 26086001
GM P/N 26088334
GM P/N 26088539
GM P/N 26068964
GM P/N 26058681
GM P/N 26068967
GM P/N 26088606
GM P/N 26067451
GM P/N 26087241
GM P/N 26087416
Do not replace the following intermediate shafts:
GM P/N 26050292
GM P/N 26078302
GM P/N 26079240
GM P/N 26073020
GM P/N 22680754
This condition is commonly misdiagnosed as originating in the steering gear and has resulted in the replacement of numerous steering gears without correcting the concern.
Cause
This condition may be caused by inadequate lubrication of the steering intermediate shaft which results in a "slip stick" condition possibly resulting in the clunk noise.
Correction
Remove the intermediate steering shaft from the vehicle and lubricate the shaft with a Steering Column Shaft Lubrication Kit, P/N 26098237. Follow the service procedure listed below.
Remove the steering intermediate shaft from the vehicle. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement in the appropriate Service Manual.
Fully extend the intermediate shaft by pulling the two shafts apart.
Apply the grease supplied in the Steering Column Shaft Lubrication Kit in the aluminum end of the yoke opening. Direct the syringe tip as deep as possible into the yoke and dispense the full content of the syringe.
Install the rubber stop plug from the Steering Column Shaft Lubrication kit into the yoke opening.
Secure the rubber plug by swinging the upper yoke 90°. One ear of the yoke should press the rubber plug in.
Use a hard surface to ease the collapse of the intermediate shaft. It is best to use a pumping action when collapsing the shaft. Collapse the shaft as far as possible.
Important: Make sure the intermediate shaft is being pressed over the ears of the solid shaft.
Remove the rubber stopper plug from the yoke end of the shaft.
Slowly extend the intermediate shaft apart.
Inspect the intermediate shaft for a minimum of 5 mm (0.2 in) (a) of grease on the shaft splines.
Repeat steps 4-9 if less than 5 mm (0.2 in) of grease is on the shaft splines.
Important: Before installing the intermediate shaft in the vehicle, make sure to stroke and extend the intermediate shaft at least 15 TIMES to completely lubricate the internal surface of the slip joint.
Reinstall the intermediate shaft into the vehicle. Refer to Intermediate Steering Shaft Replacement in the appropriate Service Manual.
Parts Information
Parts are currently available from GMSPO.
Part Number Description
26098237 Steering Column Shaft Lube Kit
Warranty Information
Labor Operation Description Labor Time
E7700 R&R Shaft Steering Intermediate Use Published Time
Add: Lubricate Steering Shaft 0.1 hr
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use the table as shown.
information from impalahq.com
winterover
03-27-2005, 08:10 PM
Thanks, I've actually seen some of this before... the biggest thing is getting the ISS out... I'm sure I can do the rest...but I'm not sure how to get the &^^(&$%## thing out of the car. As a note too... I called GM pleading my case for a new no charge ISS.... come to find out the car already had the ISS replace once under warranty ( I bought the car when it had 34K on the clock) and they said they wouldn't replace it again since it was already done before... what a crock.... Thanks GM for the great customer satisfaction gesture.... I think my next car will be a Toyota.
MoNsTeR`ImPaLa
03-27-2005, 09:05 PM
i bet all they did was lube it call again and go to another service department push it get it done on them its not really something you want to do laying on your back in your driveway trust me lol anyways maybe it doesnt need to be changed out it might just need to be lubed but save yourself the BS and try another dealership or if you must get a haynes manual
mcquadey
05-13-2005, 07:59 PM
before u go tearing things out, make sure that the steering wheel doesn't turn after you remove the intermediate steering shaft. and make sure you install back the way you took it out. the airbag in the steering wheel has what is called an " sir coil" the coil basically is a coil of wire that will wind up and unwind when u turn the steering wheel. this is there because if you had a regular wire it would break from being twisted. the coil wire can break if the steering wheel is turned to many times. after you take the steering shaft out there is nothing to stop the steering wheel from turning indefinitely. it is a good idea to have the front wheels in the dead ahead position when u do this. that way you know you steering wheel will be centered when ur done.
JohnT396
05-15-2005, 07:25 PM
Attached is a link that describes the procedure to remove and re-install the ISS. I have not tried it myself but it sounds easy enough. Any feedback would be great..
http://www.diynet.com/diy/ab_suspension/article/0,2021,DIY_13695_3117394,00.html
http://www.diynet.com/diy/ab_suspension/article/0,2021,DIY_13695_3117394,00.html
DAVENEWJERSEY
07-08-2005, 12:03 PM
Attached is a link that describes the procedure to remove and re-install the ISS. I have not tried it myself but it sounds easy enough. Any feedback would be great..
http://www.diynet.com/diy/ab_suspension/article/0,2021,DIY_13695_3117394,00.html
FYI
The problem you are having is frequently misdiagnosed, and very profitable for GM service.
Many of their vehicles 2000-2002 have SUB FRAME WELDS MISSING {VERTICLE} OR DEFECTIVE WELDS, CAUSING A NOISY FLEXING OF THE FRAME AT THE WELD AREA {METAL TO METAL}
THEY WILL TRY TO SELL YOU A SUPER GLUE TYPE WELD FIX SERVICE FOR OVER $229.00 AND YOU WILL NEED TO LEAVE THE CAR.
IF THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND IT USUALLY DOESN'T, THEY NEED TO REPLACE THE ALUMINUM FRAME.
THEY AVOID REPLACING THE FRAME FOR COST REASONS.
PROBLEM IS FREQUENTLY MISREAD AS MANY UNNEEDED REPAIRS SUCH AS RELACING THE STEERING RACK, AND INTERMEDIATE STEERING SHAFT {OR LUBE OF SHAFT} AND MOUNTS ETC....
THIS SHOULD BE A MASSIVE SAFETY RECALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.diynet.com/diy/ab_suspension/article/0,2021,DIY_13695_3117394,00.html
FYI
The problem you are having is frequently misdiagnosed, and very profitable for GM service.
Many of their vehicles 2000-2002 have SUB FRAME WELDS MISSING {VERTICLE} OR DEFECTIVE WELDS, CAUSING A NOISY FLEXING OF THE FRAME AT THE WELD AREA {METAL TO METAL}
THEY WILL TRY TO SELL YOU A SUPER GLUE TYPE WELD FIX SERVICE FOR OVER $229.00 AND YOU WILL NEED TO LEAVE THE CAR.
IF THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND IT USUALLY DOESN'T, THEY NEED TO REPLACE THE ALUMINUM FRAME.
THEY AVOID REPLACING THE FRAME FOR COST REASONS.
PROBLEM IS FREQUENTLY MISREAD AS MANY UNNEEDED REPAIRS SUCH AS RELACING THE STEERING RACK, AND INTERMEDIATE STEERING SHAFT {OR LUBE OF SHAFT} AND MOUNTS ETC....
THIS SHOULD BE A MASSIVE SAFETY RECALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
figment2
11-27-2005, 09:54 PM
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does aney one know the part # to the updated shaft i think my 2004 may need one thanks
steve
does aney one know the part # to the updated shaft i think my 2004 may need one thanks
steve
Scottman72
12-23-2005, 10:16 PM
replacing the iss is not too bad. Inside the car at the base of the steering column is a bolt that that connects the iss to the steering column, remove that bolt. Make sure your steering wheel does not rotate while disconnecting the iss , then push , or persuade, the iss off the steering shaft. Next jack up the left front and remove the tire, support car with a jackstand. Push the dust boot off the rack and pinion , where the iss goes through the body, this reveals the lower bolt that connects the iss to the rack and pinion, remove this bolt. Now pry the iss off the rack and pinion. The iss should collapse some to make removing it easier. Now you can replace it or lube it ( I have only lubed several of these with good results ) Now reverse to install. Good luck!
jsurrell
03-08-2008, 08:36 PM
Easy fix!
I just fixed my Impala's ISS clunk/noise with this very easy 15 minute fix.
1) Get a can of spray white litheum grease at your local store.
2) Reach under the steering wheel, pop off the panel, pul down the black rubber boot.
3) You will see the IIS, then end of the shaft is open, using the red tube supplied with the can of spray grease, insert in the hole and spray plenty of grease. I sprayed the knuckle as well.
4) Pull the boot back up and pop the panel back into place.
Worked like a charm.
Joe
I just fixed my Impala's ISS clunk/noise with this very easy 15 minute fix.
1) Get a can of spray white litheum grease at your local store.
2) Reach under the steering wheel, pop off the panel, pul down the black rubber boot.
3) You will see the IIS, then end of the shaft is open, using the red tube supplied with the can of spray grease, insert in the hole and spray plenty of grease. I sprayed the knuckle as well.
4) Pull the boot back up and pop the panel back into place.
Worked like a charm.
Joe
Gems
03-09-2008, 12:08 PM
Here is a good "how to" on lubing the ISS:
http://www.naioa.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10805
http://www.naioa.com/v2/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10805
De-railer
03-18-2008, 09:54 PM
Easy fix!
I just fixed my Impala's ISS clunk/noise with this very easy 15 minute fix.
1) Get a can of spray white litheum grease at your local store.
2) Reach under the steering wheel, pop off the panel, pul down the black rubber boot.
3) You will see the IIS, then end of the shaft is open, using the red tube supplied with the can of spray grease, insert in the hole and spray plenty of grease. I sprayed the knuckle as well.
4) Pull the boot back up and pop the panel back into place.
Worked like a charm.
Joe
I do the same thing every 3-4 months. I have to do it so often I got sick of fighting that boot and just cut it down the center for easier access heh. PB Blaster works as well.
I just fixed my Impala's ISS clunk/noise with this very easy 15 minute fix.
1) Get a can of spray white litheum grease at your local store.
2) Reach under the steering wheel, pop off the panel, pul down the black rubber boot.
3) You will see the IIS, then end of the shaft is open, using the red tube supplied with the can of spray grease, insert in the hole and spray plenty of grease. I sprayed the knuckle as well.
4) Pull the boot back up and pop the panel back into place.
Worked like a charm.
Joe
I do the same thing every 3-4 months. I have to do it so often I got sick of fighting that boot and just cut it down the center for easier access heh. PB Blaster works as well.
mega3000
11-17-2009, 12:40 AM
Following the advice on the forum I just lubricated my ISS with a half can of spray lithium grease. I was able to reach under the dash, pull back the rubber cover, and spray away while I turned the steering wheel. Worked like a charm. I will post another update when I need to re-apply.
(Now only if I could use that spray inside my shoulder.)
(Now only if I could use that spray inside my shoulder.)
mega3000
12-31-2010, 06:59 PM
Just a quick update. I have not needed to lube the ISS again since I last posted back in Nov 2009. Will update again when I need to lube the shaft.
mjmcg
07-29-2011, 11:49 PM
I am wondering if the clunk I have in my steering, which feels like it's right at the wheel itself, is the same notorious noise that everyone else mentions. The reason I wonder this is because all the other posts I found describe it as being something that happens when you turn the wheel 180 deg side to side. My little "knock" usually happens as I'm conservatively accelerating up to the street limit and roll over sharp pavement heave across the lane. I also note a little play in the wheel, which if straight is 12:00, I can move the wheel back and forth between about 11:58 and 12:02 without it even feeling like it's connected to anything, and while driving straight that "clunk" seems to feel like the rest of the shaft is moving back and forth within that dead zone of wheel movement. If anyone knows what the heck I mean by all that. The car tracks true enough, it doesn't wander but it definitely feels like the steering wheel and the rest of the column are by way of a 1" peg in a 1 1/2" hole.
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