Overhyped, and Basterdised!
HondaHater
05-25-2004, 05:14 PM
hey flywheel, i look forward for more ownage of yours.
jcsaleen
05-25-2004, 05:46 PM
All I can say is the :newbie: got :owned: but :1: for razor on that.:rofl: lol.
HondaHater
05-25-2004, 09:23 PM
we all get a point, we gangbanged him. haha. i know i should get a point im one of the ones that said he got owned to his face before he left. does that count for anything?
RazorGTR
05-25-2004, 10:02 PM
Well I'm sure he'll be back and people like him who can't take a good hint always seem to come back for more. The next time he'll graduate next year before he's let back in.
Moppie
05-26-2004, 12:46 AM
razor and i come off exactly the same...
with exactly the same intentions...
That has to be insulting to one of you, I just can't figure out which one :rolleyes:
(your not sulking online are you?)
with exactly the same intentions...
That has to be insulting to one of you, I just can't figure out which one :rolleyes:
(your not sulking online are you?)
tazdev
05-26-2004, 02:31 AM
4. Supras are easier to mod.
this one just doesn't sit right. If Supras are easier to mod then why on earth would top secret ditch the supra motor in favour of an RB26DETT??
hmmmmmm
could it be because the RB engine is easier and more friendly to modification
this one just doesn't sit right. If Supras are easier to mod then why on earth would top secret ditch the supra motor in favour of an RB26DETT??
hmmmmmm
could it be because the RB engine is easier and more friendly to modification
SkylineUSA
05-26-2004, 11:23 AM
Normally Supras go to singles, while GTRs have straight swaps with the 2510s, 2530s, 2540s, GT-SS, and the GT-RS....how much easier can that be?
flylwsi
05-26-2004, 03:11 PM
That has to be insulting to one of you, I just can't figure out which one :rolleyes:
(your not sulking online are you?)
sulking?
not likely...
just pointing something out...
you made the point.
online.
we're on different continents, i'm not gonna get bent out of shape...
(your not sulking online are you?)
sulking?
not likely...
just pointing something out...
you made the point.
online.
we're on different continents, i'm not gonna get bent out of shape...
jcsaleen
05-26-2004, 03:34 PM
we all get a point, we gangbanged him. haha. i know i should get a point im one of the ones that said he got owned to his face before he left. does that count for anything?
Lol u get :thumbsup: & :1: for it. LOL thats gotta suck for lil!
Lol u get :thumbsup: & :1: for it. LOL thats gotta suck for lil!
HondaHater
05-26-2004, 06:55 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif indeed i hope the mods will leave this thread open even tho it's way off topic cuz im defintely sure lilboy gonna wanna hit up this thread one more time. i feel like reading some more ownage, get a few laughs.
Skyline_R32_Canada
05-26-2004, 09:31 PM
how many more days left in his ban??
HondaHater
05-26-2004, 11:24 PM
does he even know it's a ten day ban? cuz if he doesnt, he might just say 'fuck this shit im never coming back" and then we hafta blame razorgtr for messing up some future ownage we coulda had. :P
jcsaleen
05-27-2004, 04:33 PM
Hey it isnt gonna be razors fault if he dosent come back because he brought it apon him self he made that post. He was just talkin out of his ass so we pluged it. :nutkick: (Thats basically what we did in front of all of AF!!)
john.doe
05-27-2004, 08:48 PM
Is lilslim related to boy_toi
HondaHater
05-27-2004, 10:40 PM
i stuck out my tongue :p when i said let's blame razor, nothing serious or anything, yes indeed he brought it on himself. lilslim should be related to boro dude, that one who hasnt been replying lately cuz he been OWNED! wait, was it boro?
Skyline_R32_Canada
05-28-2004, 05:05 PM
i have a feelin john.doe is oi or lilslim hahahaha
jcsaleen
05-28-2004, 07:39 PM
Same here :lol:
Skyline_R32_Canada
05-28-2004, 09:36 PM
can we get an IP check done by the mods? :naughty:
SkylineUSA
05-28-2004, 11:48 PM
Can we talk about Skylines?
Skyline_R32_Canada
05-28-2004, 11:51 PM
sure whats your question
SkylineUSA
05-28-2004, 11:53 PM
sure whats your question
What is the factory Lob Sep, of the GTR?
What is the factory Lob Sep, of the GTR?
Skyline_R32_Canada
05-29-2004, 12:25 AM
hmmm...not too sure about it...like 108-112?
SkylineUSA
05-29-2004, 12:35 AM
hmmm...not too sure about it...like 108-112?
If I was to guess, it would be 114. 108 would not work, that is more for a N/A engine. Turbos normally run a lot higher lob sep.
If I was to guess, it would be 114. 108 would not work, that is more for a N/A engine. Turbos normally run a lot higher lob sep.
HondaHater
05-29-2004, 04:13 AM
gtr owns those who have been owned in this thread
flylwsi
05-29-2004, 09:40 AM
skyline...
did you just reply to your own question, with an indefinite answer? ;)
did you just reply to your own question, with an indefinite answer? ;)
jcsaleen
05-29-2004, 10:43 AM
Werd... Do any sklines have superchargers?? (not stock obviously but modified)
Skyline_R32_Canada
05-29-2004, 10:49 AM
i wouldnt doubt it, but again i dunno why a lot of people would, personally i prefer turbos over s/c
jcsaleen
05-29-2004, 11:09 AM
Well it all depends superchargers are more constant which can be helpfull but the turbo is like an ACE:iceslolan U can inject a high powerboost that will really make ur oppent think as he watching u pass by + get ur veins pumpin:biggrin:. Personally I prefer a turbos cause u get the rush!!
flylwsi
05-29-2004, 11:49 AM
whoa there...
too much caffeine...
i've not seen one supercharged, simply b/c of the advantage of a pair (or one) of turbos...
there were pics of a twin charged (2 turbos, one roots blower) rb26, but that was on a stand, and wouldn't fit into a car...
so the answer, for now, is no...
too much caffeine...
i've not seen one supercharged, simply b/c of the advantage of a pair (or one) of turbos...
there were pics of a twin charged (2 turbos, one roots blower) rb26, but that was on a stand, and wouldn't fit into a car...
so the answer, for now, is no...
RazorGTR
05-29-2004, 12:40 PM
Werd... Do any sklines have superchargers?? (not stock obviously but modified)
There was a fad here with the N/A Skylines trying a small side mounted s/c's. They were electric instead of belt driven. The main problem was they would only produce boost to about 6,000 rpms then run out, plus you could only keep it running for about 25 seconds at most before it shut down. Expensive and not very good results overall.
There was a fad here with the N/A Skylines trying a small side mounted s/c's. They were electric instead of belt driven. The main problem was they would only produce boost to about 6,000 rpms then run out, plus you could only keep it running for about 25 seconds at most before it shut down. Expensive and not very good results overall.
HondaHater
05-29-2004, 08:57 PM
ogura supercharger. positive displacement. here's a pic of one of em, im sure flywheel was talkin bout this picture...
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/176337RB26DETTR-med.jpg
there's a site that sells the ogura supercharger, they have said that somebody has put two of those ogura superchargers on an rb26, tho i dont know if it is true. this pic has one.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/176337RB26DETTR-med.jpg
there's a site that sells the ogura supercharger, they have said that somebody has put two of those ogura superchargers on an rb26, tho i dont know if it is true. this pic has one.
flylwsi
05-30-2004, 10:09 PM
how F'ing hard is it to get someone's name right?
have i ever EVER misspelled someone's name?
i know that my post was RIGHT above the box for the quick reply, or you could scroll down to spell it right...
no offense, but it's a huge pet peeve, and it annoys the hell out of me.
thanks for not taking the time... [/rant]
yeah...
that's what i was talking about, but i've never seen it in the car...
have i ever EVER misspelled someone's name?
i know that my post was RIGHT above the box for the quick reply, or you could scroll down to spell it right...
no offense, but it's a huge pet peeve, and it annoys the hell out of me.
thanks for not taking the time... [/rant]
yeah...
that's what i was talking about, but i've never seen it in the car...
HondaHater
05-30-2004, 10:16 PM
lmao!!!
SkylineUSA
05-31-2004, 12:55 AM
yeah...
that's what i was talking about, but i've never seen it in the car...
Yep, because that engine will not work.
that's what i was talking about, but i've never seen it in the car...
Yep, because that engine will not work.
my3rdskyline
05-31-2004, 01:15 AM
so about that engine.... I see the supercharger and the pipe going from the supercharger to the rest of the pre-intercooler stuff. I have a few questions.
Doesn't that seem like kind of a sharp bend for that air to be making coming from out of the supercharger? (the 90 degree one)
and also.... where does the air go into that supercharger? In the back of it? I don't see any intake and It doesn't seem like that thing can breath too well.
Doesn't that seem like kind of a sharp bend for that air to be making coming from out of the supercharger? (the 90 degree one)
and also.... where does the air go into that supercharger? In the back of it? I don't see any intake and It doesn't seem like that thing can breath too well.
SkylineUSA
05-31-2004, 01:31 AM
so about that engine.... I see the supercharger and the pipe going from the supercharger to the rest of the pre-intercooler stuff. I have a few questions.
Doesn't that seem like kind of a sharp bend for that air to be making coming from out of the supercharger? (the 90 degree one)
and also.... where does the air go into that supercharger? In the back of it? I don't see any intake and It doesn't seem like that thing can breath too well.
Most Mustang put out well over 500hp with a 90* bend from there VORTECHs.
Like I said that engine will not work.
Doesn't that seem like kind of a sharp bend for that air to be making coming from out of the supercharger? (the 90 degree one)
and also.... where does the air go into that supercharger? In the back of it? I don't see any intake and It doesn't seem like that thing can breath too well.
Most Mustang put out well over 500hp with a 90* bend from there VORTECHs.
Like I said that engine will not work.
jcsaleen
05-31-2004, 09:19 PM
That resolves that question Skylines Should only have Turbo's PerioD.:)
lilslim
06-01-2004, 10:24 AM
I never wanted to start a fight with everyone on this bored. W=In fact the first replys where friendly (then everyone hated me after RazorGTR). Sorry about that people! I didnt come here to start shit, cause i'm not the tpe of person to go on boreds amd be stupid just to look good. What I typed before was just MY opinions of what pros told me. I didnt want to start anything. Sorry bout that.
lilslim
06-01-2004, 10:28 AM
Well, the original post asked if ya think Skylines are bastardised. My question is (I am not trying to start a fight) do ya think Skylines are overhyped? This is a friendly question. I am not trying to start anything. Thankk you
flylwsi
06-01-2004, 10:46 AM
the very nature of your question will divide enthusiasts.
it also promotes a defensive reply, which is going to start fights.
also, there's an EDIT button, so you can go back and edit your original post, so you don't look like you're replying to your own post.
it also promotes a defensive reply, which is going to start fights.
also, there's an EDIT button, so you can go back and edit your original post, so you don't look like you're replying to your own post.
RazorGTR
06-01-2004, 11:49 AM
First welcome back.
In reply to your question/statement I think many cars are bastardized. This becomes a personal opinion though. While I've always made it clear I've never been a fan of honda's with the exception of the NSX, they seem to cop it worse than any other model. Of course as should really mention is I'm not into showy bling bling for a road car either or performance car. Actually I'm not into show cars period as I "personally" think they are a pure waste of money.
To sumize it better I would rather have an ICBM than vase of roses for a cock :rofl:
As far as the Skyline being over hyped well that would have been covered quite well, and YES they are. In saying that though it depends on how you look at it and how the "in question statement" is provided. Overhyped by those who don't know isn't the biggest problem, cracked on by those who don't is.
Either way I love my car and its heiritage.
In reply to your question/statement I think many cars are bastardized. This becomes a personal opinion though. While I've always made it clear I've never been a fan of honda's with the exception of the NSX, they seem to cop it worse than any other model. Of course as should really mention is I'm not into showy bling bling for a road car either or performance car. Actually I'm not into show cars period as I "personally" think they are a pure waste of money.
To sumize it better I would rather have an ICBM than vase of roses for a cock :rofl:
As far as the Skyline being over hyped well that would have been covered quite well, and YES they are. In saying that though it depends on how you look at it and how the "in question statement" is provided. Overhyped by those who don't know isn't the biggest problem, cracked on by those who don't is.
Either way I love my car and its heiritage.
lilslim
06-01-2004, 01:04 PM
I agree with you RazorGTR. I dont like show car (they kinda make imports look bad). Yea, to me i like the rugedness of cars, like the drifters of japan.
jcsaleen
06-01-2004, 02:55 PM
Honestly the only cars that are really blown out of proportion are Ferrari now a days there just not the same :rolleyes:. I mean dont get me wrong there great cars but the enzo isn't the best ferrari as far as that goes. On another note "MOVIES" are what make cars blown out of proportion aka basterdised. So many car have be blown out of proportion of the years Fast and Furious, 2F2F and of course james bond movies (ETC) even though there awsome. All I can say is CARS dont blow themselves out of proportion its the movies fault.
I also think lil Slim was tryin to say is the skyline over shadows alot of other cars (imports). Worst over shadowment is is ferrari stratedale over a Noble M12 GTO.
I also think lil Slim was tryin to say is the skyline over shadows alot of other cars (imports). Worst over shadowment is is ferrari stratedale over a Noble M12 GTO.
RazorGTR
06-01-2004, 03:43 PM
It is soooooooooo true on how hollywood can and does over dramatize a particular model. Fast and Furious is only the latest but one only has to look at previous movies and or series to see it. Take "The Dukes of Hazard" as example. The Charger was the talk for years. In all honesty the Charger is a good car but hardly Dodge's top car when compared to the Challanger, and GTX.
I wouldn't say it is all hollywood's fault though as it takes gullable people to belive what they see as "gosple" or truth.
There will also always be those who like to compare this model against that model. Again that is human nature, to express themselves and their opinions and thoughts.
As far as experts go though, there are hardly any "experts" in the States on JDM cars. Oh there will be the self proclaimed, such as MotoRex, RBMotoring but in all honesty how many years have they spent with these cars as compared to those who have since the inception of each model. One only has to look at the top tuners and modifiers in Japan such as HKS, Top Secret, Mines, Veilside, Jun, Signal, etc to look for the real experts. I happen to be very lucky and know personally the owner of ST-HITEC, who worked for Nissan Japan for years, and also spent quite a bit of time with Top Secret and HKS while in Japan. He's brilliant and easy to talk to and has a wealth knowledge and information to share.
I wouldn't say it is all hollywood's fault though as it takes gullable people to belive what they see as "gosple" or truth.
There will also always be those who like to compare this model against that model. Again that is human nature, to express themselves and their opinions and thoughts.
As far as experts go though, there are hardly any "experts" in the States on JDM cars. Oh there will be the self proclaimed, such as MotoRex, RBMotoring but in all honesty how many years have they spent with these cars as compared to those who have since the inception of each model. One only has to look at the top tuners and modifiers in Japan such as HKS, Top Secret, Mines, Veilside, Jun, Signal, etc to look for the real experts. I happen to be very lucky and know personally the owner of ST-HITEC, who worked for Nissan Japan for years, and also spent quite a bit of time with Top Secret and HKS while in Japan. He's brilliant and easy to talk to and has a wealth knowledge and information to share.
GTR...GTR...GTR
06-01-2004, 04:56 PM
To sumize it better I would rather have an ICBM than vase of roses for a cock :rofl:
Holy cat crap batman! I almost shot soda out of my nose when I read that!
Holy cat crap batman! I almost shot soda out of my nose when I read that!
jcsaleen
06-01-2004, 08:10 PM
By the way the noble m12 gto and the ferrari stratedale are compared in this months car and driver. If you can look at the price and performances its actually very funny.
RazorGTR
06-01-2004, 10:52 PM
Holy cat crap batman! I almost shot soda out of my nose when I read that!
HAHAHAHAHAHA sorry about that. Was just trying to think of some sort of funny way of saying it and something Don Armataio in New Jack City said seemd to fit though he used "that guy has to have an MX missle for a cock he gets up so high". Said in reference to Micheal Jordan.
HAHAHAHAHAHA sorry about that. Was just trying to think of some sort of funny way of saying it and something Don Armataio in New Jack City said seemd to fit though he used "that guy has to have an MX missle for a cock he gets up so high". Said in reference to Micheal Jordan.
lilslim
06-02-2004, 03:10 PM
Yea, movies arnt the only things that bastardise cars. Its mostly people, and how they build hype. In the Skyline's case its people my age who sweat it (and dont know shit about it) just because it didnt come out here. Oh well, I guess Silvias could be next. I say this because they say Fast And Furious 3 is going to take place in Tokyo!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!! Now they have to make true JDM cars look gay. I guess they are goinf to show purple and green Evos, Silvias, and Skylines with plenty of NOS. Oh, and the article said that Tokyo was the NEW hot spot for racing. I'm PRETTY damn sure they where racing JDM cars in Japan longer than they where here. Yet the article said Tokyo was the new "hot spot". What the hell. At least this should be the last one...hopefully.
jcsaleen
06-02-2004, 06:32 PM
Overhyped cough cough (elinor)... gone in sixty seconds
I mean common they had a Jaguar XJ22O in the movie. God what is wrong with them.
I mean common they had a Jaguar XJ22O in the movie. God what is wrong with them.
my3rdskyline
06-02-2004, 06:55 PM
what's really horrible is the amount of cars I've seen around here with that fucking angel reaching out or whatever it is decal on the side of the car.
http://www.reelingreviews.com/thefastandthefuriouspic.jpg
That thing is on the side of like 10 cars here. Most of them are pile of shit R33 GTS skylines too. I have seen that on a damn prelude though.
I don't understand that. There's a guy on this base that has one of the meanest looking skylines here. I've got to take a picture of it so you can see it, but it looks GREAT. It's an R33, 2 door. Bayside blue with a body kit, no spoiler, custom hood... but it's a damn GTS. and it's an automatic. I don't understand the thinking behind this sort of thing.
http://www.reelingreviews.com/thefastandthefuriouspic.jpg
That thing is on the side of like 10 cars here. Most of them are pile of shit R33 GTS skylines too. I have seen that on a damn prelude though.
I don't understand that. There's a guy on this base that has one of the meanest looking skylines here. I've got to take a picture of it so you can see it, but it looks GREAT. It's an R33, 2 door. Bayside blue with a body kit, no spoiler, custom hood... but it's a damn GTS. and it's an automatic. I don't understand the thinking behind this sort of thing.
lilslim
06-03-2004, 11:54 AM
Yea, people think that movie is the best and everyone thinks that ahit is areal> i seen the last ride yesterday on tv and they STILL imprts look bad. Even when they try to make imports look good on TV or on commertials (did ya see that phone commersial) they still make imports look like pussy cars. With all those graphics and what not. Its all bullshit now.
lilslim
06-03-2004, 03:25 PM
Oh and did ya see that part on Fast and Furious, where the muscle car did a big wheely in the begining of the race. It did a HUGE burn out and wheely, and at the same time it launched faster than the Supra. When it did all that I would expect it to waste lots of time. Oh well, I guess even in a movie thats suposed to represent imports they make there own selves look bad.
oi_boy
06-03-2004, 04:36 PM
what's really horrible is the amount of cars I've seen around here with that fucking angel reaching out or whatever it is decal on the side of the car.
http://www.reelingreviews.com/thefastandthefuriouspic.jpg
That thing is on the side of like 10 cars here. Most of them are pile of shit R33 GTS skylines too. I have seen that on a damn prelude though.
I don't understand that. There's a guy on this base that has one of the meanest looking skylines here. I've got to take a picture of it so you can see it, but it looks GREAT. It's an R33, 2 door. Bayside blue with a body kit, no spoiler, custom hood... but it's a damn GTS. and it's an automatic. I don't understand the thinking behind this sort of thing.
That supra is owned by Craig Leiberman. Hes the technical advisor for the fast and the furious series. Its a nice car, but he puts way too much money into his cars.....and into the wrong products. On the 2f2f dvd he dropped 50k into an evo VIII and the thing only got 300 whp. Rest was all cosmetic crap...new paint, decails plus tons of ICE.
http://www.reelingreviews.com/thefastandthefuriouspic.jpg
That thing is on the side of like 10 cars here. Most of them are pile of shit R33 GTS skylines too. I have seen that on a damn prelude though.
I don't understand that. There's a guy on this base that has one of the meanest looking skylines here. I've got to take a picture of it so you can see it, but it looks GREAT. It's an R33, 2 door. Bayside blue with a body kit, no spoiler, custom hood... but it's a damn GTS. and it's an automatic. I don't understand the thinking behind this sort of thing.
That supra is owned by Craig Leiberman. Hes the technical advisor for the fast and the furious series. Its a nice car, but he puts way too much money into his cars.....and into the wrong products. On the 2f2f dvd he dropped 50k into an evo VIII and the thing only got 300 whp. Rest was all cosmetic crap...new paint, decails plus tons of ICE.
GTR2b
06-03-2004, 06:13 PM
That supra is owned by Craig Leiberman. Hes the technical advisor for the fast and the furious series. Its a nice car, but he puts way too much money into his cars.....and into the wrong products. On the 2f2f dvd he dropped 50k into an evo VIII and the thing only got 300 whp. Rest was all cosmetic crap...new paint, decails plus tons of ICE.
It was an Evo VII retard. Also, it dyno'd near 500hp with NO2. Or did you not actually watch the video that they played before the start of the movie or read anything that was in every car magazine and web site on the freaking internet? And that $50k was INCLUDING the price of the car.
So tell me, I don't agree with the graphics either but why is new paint = $8k, wheels and tires = $8k, larger turbo and new piping = $6k, direct port NO2 system = $1k. Not to mention the sound system, gauges, body kit, GT Wing, headers and exhaust.
Gee, sounds like the regular recipe for just about EVERY other Sport Compact on the road doesn't it so tell me how THAT is a waste. And also, how the hell did you, an arm-chair racer and poser, get the professional clout to be able to criticise a car builder like Craig Leiberman? He's been building cars and racing since you were in diapers.
The more you speak the more I firmly believe you should just be drop-kicked off the face of the earth.
It was an Evo VII retard. Also, it dyno'd near 500hp with NO2. Or did you not actually watch the video that they played before the start of the movie or read anything that was in every car magazine and web site on the freaking internet? And that $50k was INCLUDING the price of the car.
So tell me, I don't agree with the graphics either but why is new paint = $8k, wheels and tires = $8k, larger turbo and new piping = $6k, direct port NO2 system = $1k. Not to mention the sound system, gauges, body kit, GT Wing, headers and exhaust.
Gee, sounds like the regular recipe for just about EVERY other Sport Compact on the road doesn't it so tell me how THAT is a waste. And also, how the hell did you, an arm-chair racer and poser, get the professional clout to be able to criticise a car builder like Craig Leiberman? He's been building cars and racing since you were in diapers.
The more you speak the more I firmly believe you should just be drop-kicked off the face of the earth.
jcsaleen
06-03-2004, 07:38 PM
So that guy really builds cars???? :nono: Does he know what hes doin to imports reps:uhoh:. If I was him id be building and racing fast cars not making movies and disgracing names. + He mad U.s look like abunch of groupes that run from the cops and some how squeeze civics under 18 wheeelers!
All hes doing is putting bad hype to the real import crowd and putting more movies hype on his record!
All hes doing is putting bad hype to the real import crowd and putting more movies hype on his record!
GTR2b
06-03-2004, 08:13 PM
I read a Bio about the guy some time after F&F came out. He's been involved with the car scene in SoCal for a very long time.
I don't really think that it's fair to blame him for over-hyping cars or their capabilities. Remember that his main part in both movies was simply as a technical advisor during pre-production. Alot happens between that and the post-production edits before the movie is even released. If he's guilty of anything, it would be "selling out" to the movie industry, which honestly, can you blame him? You can't really pay for advertising like that.
I don't really think that it's fair to blame him for over-hyping cars or their capabilities. Remember that his main part in both movies was simply as a technical advisor during pre-production. Alot happens between that and the post-production edits before the movie is even released. If he's guilty of anything, it would be "selling out" to the movie industry, which honestly, can you blame him? You can't really pay for advertising like that.
jcsaleen
06-03-2004, 09:16 PM
Yea guess u can't blame a guy for taking advantage of the gullible American society that is so easily swayed. So many kidz in my school (shows the guiliblity of them) Think they are gonna get a 500 hp mustang or their dads m5's lol. (First laughing) then I was like you people can't handle that much power sry NO :lol: then there comebacks are like this (me LOL this is so funny) Hey they do it all the time in fast & furious. At this point I just walk away and say its not worth trying :disappoin.
GTR...GTR...GTR
06-03-2004, 10:41 PM
It was an Evo VII retard. Also, it dyno'd near 500hp with NO2. Or did you not actually watch the video that they played before the start of the movie or read anything that was in every car magazine and web site on the freaking internet? And that $50k was INCLUDING the price of the car.
So tell me, I don't agree with the graphics either but why is new paint = $8k, wheels and tires = $8k, larger turbo and new piping = $6k, direct port NO2 system = $1k. Not to mention the sound system, gauges, body kit, GT Wing, headers and exhaust.
Gee, sounds like the regular recipe for just about EVERY other Sport Compact on the road doesn't it so tell me how THAT is a waste. And also, how the hell did you, an arm-chair racer and poser, get the professional clout to be able to criticise a car builder like Craig Leiberman? He's been building cars and racing since you were in diapers.
The more you speak the more I firmly believe you should just be drop-kicked off the face of the earth.
:comprage1
Jesus dude, who shit in your cheerios this morning?
So tell me, I don't agree with the graphics either but why is new paint = $8k, wheels and tires = $8k, larger turbo and new piping = $6k, direct port NO2 system = $1k. Not to mention the sound system, gauges, body kit, GT Wing, headers and exhaust.
Gee, sounds like the regular recipe for just about EVERY other Sport Compact on the road doesn't it so tell me how THAT is a waste. And also, how the hell did you, an arm-chair racer and poser, get the professional clout to be able to criticise a car builder like Craig Leiberman? He's been building cars and racing since you were in diapers.
The more you speak the more I firmly believe you should just be drop-kicked off the face of the earth.
:comprage1
Jesus dude, who shit in your cheerios this morning?
Skyline_R32_Canada
06-03-2004, 11:00 PM
hahahaha looks like oi boy is back and with a shit load of lies and wrong info again!!!
RazorGTR
06-04-2004, 02:04 AM
:comprage1
Jesus dude, who shit in your cheerios this morning?
ROTFLMAO :rofl:
Jesus dude, who shit in your cheerios this morning?
ROTFLMAO :rofl:
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