BMW-Williams FW-24 Project...

Good luck getting it finished by Saturday. I look forward to seeing it done. The seat and harness look great.

Your blue paint colour looks an excellent match to that photo, how does it compare to the kit decals?

it decals seem a little darker... but not too bad... much better than the ts-51 :)

If you think the blue is too dark, it probably is. I remember that I read some where that matching colour in from 1:1 to 1:20 should not be exact. The colour in scale should look a bit brighter than the actual colour. Is it called the scaling effect?

yes :)
you use 10% white on 48 scale airplanes to give the fading effect, but I dont think I needed it for this scale :) I think I can live with it ;)

edit:

Side pods are cf'ed, cf ing front arms

Speeding up the building process as I have one day left to build this thing...

Here are the wheels and tires... they just need the final gloss coat...

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/tires.jpg

This is how the chassis looks like at the moment from the bottom side..the top needs to be finished. The middle section is painted XF-57 buff as the manual suggests

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/chassis1.jpg

Here is the radiator finished. Silicon hose is made by painting a thick layer og GS Paint and I wrapped chrome foil tape over it for the hose claps..

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/radiator1.jpg

I have most of the complex cfing done so it should be relatively easy from now on... only the painting is left ... I have the white base and the first coat on the car at the moment. I will let the base dry as much as possible and do a wet on wet paint job just like real car then top it with gloss. and hope everything holds on :grinno:

So it's sunday, were are the finished pics ?
:evillol: :evillol:

hehehe I Successfuly destroyed my second paint job this month lol...

Here is what happened...

Painted the white... no problems... looks great...

Masked and painted the blue... looks great...

took the mask off.... not so great...I ll post some pictures as soon as I get my senses back as I was the head of the contest organization... I am pretty worn out at the moment...

You can see the pics at www.modelciler.org site (I hope they posted them) I need a week off so I get get some rest then first thing I will finish the FW-24 as BMW is waiting for it here in Istanbul for their display :)

Argh! Have a nice rest!! (you and the paint!-better for it to dry between two coats!) ;)
I didn't managed to see the pics on the site: I did understand nothing! :lol: If they're not supposed to be on the first page, in which thread of the forum (that's what it is, isn't it?) are they supposed to be?...

:lol: Give them sometime... they took 700 pics :)

I'll cross my fingers for your paint job !

that makes two of us :lol:

Well It has been just too long since my last update but I just was not in the mood to look at the car.

Anyway I finally got to work on the car. Placed the right brake assembly on the arms as well. Finished CF job on the back end of the trans.

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans1.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans2.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans3.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans4.jpg

Just need to finish the cf'ing on the brakes and touch up the arms. Then on to adding the parts to the transmision and the engine.

Looks good still Toughbeard. I have this kit and the Lion Roar photo-etch set for it. I will be watching yours for the final outcome. I guess I should order up the cf too. :)

CF looks really good. The suspension arms look like a royal paint to template and CF. You are doing great so far. The infamous little thing that ruins a paintjob happens to the best of us(trust me). Keep up the good work!

Looking good, are you using decal for the carbon fibre or spraying through a mesh? Either way it's great work.

I am using decals for the cf. I ordered the SMS template set and couple more plain sheets. and believe me you will need it as the SMS set does not include everything in the template. I used the pics I was sent for the tamiyas cf pattern plus my own.

Wow, looking good!!! I just took up my fw24 again as well and am now also building the rear suspension (with SMS detailset btw). Just wondering; what color did you use for the brake-callipers and drive-shafts? The color suggested in the instructions seems way off to me and I like the color you used better :D

Tim

Wow, looking good!!! I just took up my fw24 again as well and am now also building the rear suspension (with SMS detailset btw). Just wondering; what color did you use for the brake-callipers and drive-shafts? The color suggested in the instructions seems way off to me and I like the color you used better :D

Tim


When I started this kit I already had the detail set from studio27 so i didnt get the sms set.

The calipers are metalizer Burnt metal, the drive safts are dark anodic gray (metalizer) and the golden section on the saft is actually brass painted (metalizer).

The calipers are metalizer Burnt metal, the drive safts are dark anodic gray (metalizer) and the golden section on the saft is actually brass painted (metalizer).

What brand would that be??

Tim

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Ok, update on the transmission....

added the rear tie rod for the brake assemblies and the misc. suspension parts.


http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans5.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans6.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans7.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans8.jpg

Now it is time to work on the intake....

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Thanks! found it at my local hobbyshop, but I have one more question; as these paints are "for for use in airbrush only", do I still have to thin these paints??

Tim

Thanks! found it at my local hobbyshop, but I have one more question; as these paints are "for for use in airbrush only", do I still have to thin these paints??

Tim

MM's metalizers are just fine out of the jar, load up the airbrush and have fun.

Niclas

yup what Niclas said is absolutely right. Just makes sure you shake it well so all the pigments are floating an not sitting at the bottom of the jar :)

use primer underneat the metalizers or they easily scratch and paint do not adhere too well on to the surface of a well polished metalizer paint.

Came to think of another thing about the metalizers. Be sure to have a very good and smoothed surface before you put on the metalizer as it's not very forgiving on scratches, it doesn't hide anything. It rather put empahsize to any mar in the surface.
BTW, great work Thoughbeard! Keep 'em coming.
Niclas

Thanks Niclas...

And you are right about the scratches showing up... I have photos up there to prove it :lol2:

more updates...

Air intake finished. and weathered the suspension system just a little.

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans9.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans10.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_trans11.jpg

Front wing finished; Studio27 photoetch airvanes both on the sides and underneat the front wing. CF underneat, on the air vanes and inside of the walls. topped with tamiya X-22 gloss...

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_spoiler01.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_spoiler02.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_spoiler03.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_spoiler04.jpg

What next:

- CF on the engine cover (small area on both sides)
- Exhausts
- Engine wiring and plumbing
- Air intake cover

Both front and rear ends looking great. Looking forward to seeing more work on the bits in the middle. :)

Excellent job on the front wing. It looks very good and realistic except for the Tamiya carrier film on the decal.

yeah I know. The fedex logos just refused to hide under the gloss paint. And the wing started to look ugly a very heavy coat of clear so stopped spraying and finished the wing as it is.

The three project I have done so far has been total disasters from the start up on the paint works... NR, GT3 and this. I am just making myself feel good by thinking that, it is my first motorcycle, first car and first race car... I may build a truck next just in case so I can say it is my first Truck :lol2:

It is looking great, if this is disaster then I would like to have disaster with every model I make.

Ok the engine is all done. all it needs is the wiring and plumbing which will come at the end.

So here is the engine:

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_engine01.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_engine02.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_engine03.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_engine04.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_engine05.jpg

Now I notice... I haven't taken any pics from the other side... just lazy I guess...

What next....

- UnderTray
- Side pods
- rear wing
- Stands

What a disaster!*








*Disaster: Toughbeard speak for excellent results. :D

WOW that looks amazing.... But what foil did you use for the air intake, Bare Metal Foil???

WOW that looks amazing.... But what foil did you use for the air intake, Bare Metal Foil???


No, I can never get bare metal foil to get texture. so I use it only where I need very shiny and a thin coat. Plus it is expensive. The foil is ordinary house hold cooking foil. Takes shape very well and it is more sturdy than the bmf.

I will be using this foil to cover the under tray and the cowling as well. Hope I wont mess it up. :) I hate trying new things in this kind of projects :screwy:

Looking at the Engine, those scratchbuild shocks really do make a huge difference in that engine. Looks amazing.

Good luck with the aluminum foil. I will be using it on my F189 for floorpan and parts of the monocoque. My reference pictures shows the heat sheilding to be messy(so cigarette foil wouldnt work) so aluminum foil is the only way to go. I found that by crinkling it up into a loose ball and then flattenin it out. Then rolling it with a rolling pin gives a very good textured surface without being too large. Im intrigued to see how yours turns out!

I found that by crinkling it up into a loose ball and then flattenin it out. Then rolling it with a rolling pin gives a very good textured surface without being too large. Im intrigued to see how yours turns out!


That is exactly whay I have done, the first time. But I realized the texture is messy. Actually, depending on the way you fold or squish teh aluminum foil you have more control over it then just making it in to a ball. The photo I have showed that the aluminum insulation had large vertical creases and smaller horizantal ones. So I folded the aluminum foil to give sharp vertical lines and pressed on it to give smaller irregular horizantal lines when unfolded. Pretty bizzare actually :eek7:

Amazing build very detailed and acurate, i got a question with the foil i have been trying to make a heat plate for my f1-2001 ferrari but i didnt know what glue to use. Can you tell me the glue you used to get the foil to stick to the plastic. tnx

Super glue works just fine.

use clear elmers glue, or microscale crystal clear. it is easy to work with, clean and leaves no residue to be seen.

Like stephen said super glue will work fine too, but I always fine it hard to control and it will damage it used wrong...

you can try Microscale's Micro Metal Adhesive. :D
http://www.internettrains.com/460-m8.html

Here is the side pods and the under tray...

The pods are all cfed, I will add more cf inside once it is on teh car and secured.

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_pod01.jpg

Everything on the undertray is cfed except for the center where the driver section sits and the places where I places aluminum foil.

here you can see I marked the places where foil and decals will go.
http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_tray01.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_tray02.jpg

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24_tray03.jpg

I am going to take a break until wednesday, then I ll move on to the rear wing...

Have a good one!!

I sure have given a break :D I sure have a talent on destroying paint jobs. I have put away all my plastic models after I successfully destroy the new paint on the fw24 (yes - again, anyone counting how many times that happened LOL) anyways I had been racing RC cars all summer and since the rc season is out and the only racing we have is the miniZs, I can return to building kits.

I started practicing painting on scrap pieces of plastic, and I do have alot of shiny pieces now :) At least I hope I wont destroy another paint job (yeah right :grinno: )
I was going to throw this kit away but I put so many hours in it that I just could not... So I am continuing the project where I left off which has been draging just too long.

Yesterday, I put the white on the cockpit ( after scratch building the shock cover that I lost of course) I have finished the rear wing today. I am going to wait (you see I learned paitence) for tomorrow to put the gloss coat on the wing.

I will post pictures tomorrow ( this has nothing to do with paitence, but with batteries that are dead)

Toughbeard is back to modelling :icon16:

Welcome back, looking forward to seeing this project finished. I have one to build also.

Toughbeard is back to modelling :icon16:

:D And a big welcome back Toughbeard! :D
Take it slowly and you'll nail that paint job this time!

Hello,

As promised, here is the picture of the rear end (minus the clear coat)

http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/fw24rearend.jpg

Looks great, brilliant attention to detail. What needs the clear coat, the rear wing?

Looks great keep it up.

Looks great, brilliant attention to detail. What needs the clear coat, the rear wing?

Yes the rear wing will need a coat of clear to seal the decals...

Nice to have this one back on line. I hope you will finish it this time ;)
It realy does look super fine in every detail.

Great work so far!!

Welcome back! Glad to see you are back on this subject! With so much aftermarket stuff available for this model, I am glad you are doing most of it yourself. That engine and rear wing look incredible! Kudos

Thanks,

I got the white and the blue on the mid section now. I put the gloss coat on the rear wing as well. I am just going to let them dry for couple days before working on them again.

Mean whie I ll start working on the engine cover. I put the initial white base couple months ago, so it is dry now :) I painted the inside of the cover semi gloss black. I will mask of the black and paint the final coat of the white and let that dry ....

all that drying time.... what should I do....

Start on the interior (Seat, instrument panel, Detachable steering wheel, seat blets) or Radiators, connectors, radiator and electrical lines and junctures, etc

Start on the interior (Seat, instrument panel, Detachable steering wheel, seat blets) or Radiators, connectors, radiator and electrical lines and junctures, etc

all left form that list is the steering wheel, connectors, electrical lines and junctures. I am waiting for the mid section to finish so I can attache the side pods on. Then I will put the detail on.

One more day and I will have the black put on the mid section. then it will be down hill :)

Well finally the paint is done. I polished it alittle to place the decals on. After everything is settled I ll go over it with gloss coat to seal it.

all is left is the front end the electrical details, cooling system and the cowling. almost done...


http://www.toughbeard.com/jpg/fw24/chassis2.jpg

Awesome project! Nice to see you finishing it!

Looking good, eager to see this finished!

I am glad you finnaly did a good paint job. I hope the clear will go on with no problems.

This is looking great. I have this kit on my shelf but I am trying to finish 3 projects that are in progress before starting another one. I'll be looking at this thread for reference when i do start it.