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trev0006
04-25-2004, 02:24 PM
Click here (http://jime.homeip.net/maximase/Kill.wmv)

BP2K2Max
04-25-2004, 08:00 PM
there's no way he ran a 12.3 with a stock motor and nitrous.

bk2kmax
04-25-2004, 09:21 PM
there's no way he ran a 12.3 with a stock motor and nitrous.

Yes way he did, that is Jime's car from the .org and he has already ran a 12.6 before too, I believe that he ran a 12.1 too but not in the 3.5 Max.

For this run he used a 100shot and I think some cheapy slicks, on his next run he plans to run a 150 shot with better slicks and then we should see an 11.8 or .9.

I know that it is very possible, I have 2 other vids of his even the one he ran a 12.6 on.

BP2K2Max
04-25-2004, 11:18 PM
the engine is totally stock? how long has it been running since he put nitrous on? what kinda setup is it? what the deal, son?

that's sick that a 100 shot took his 1/4 time down 2 whole seconds.

VQmax95
04-26-2004, 12:15 AM
DIdn't Jime run 12s in his 4th gen too or was that someone else?

Ceasars Chariot
04-26-2004, 07:48 AM
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=305469

Tyrexx
04-26-2004, 08:45 AM
awesome, that (trans am?) sounded all raced up too
:)

bk2kmax
04-26-2004, 05:54 PM
DIdn't Jime run 12s in his 4th gen too or was that someone else?

Yes, he did and yes his motor is stock, all internals and everything.

I think it is a NX wet kit, he has the 100shot and the 150 shot but he hasn't ran the 150shot yet, soon he will. I guess he is waiting to get his new slicks and warmer weather then he'll put up some 11.8 or 11.9's.

I'm not sure how long he has been running his set-up on the 3.5 but he has been running it on the 3.0litre 4th gen for a while now.

I can't wait to see his 3.5 on 150shot runs.

JBL85
04-26-2004, 10:54 PM
thats a tight fkn video

SkyTorch
04-27-2004, 11:02 AM
That's what you do!!!! I been sayin it since the beginning. Don't advertise that fact that you got something under the hood. Let 'em know when you break yo foot off in it. The T/A was making a bunch of noise sounding all big and bad and got straight punked. I bet his woman wouldn't even get back in the car with him. Viva la VQ, baby!!

JBL85
04-27-2004, 11:09 AM
[QUOTE=SkyTorch] The T/A was making a bunch of noise sounding all big and bad and got straight punked. [QUOTE]

lmao :lol2:

dipankar06
04-28-2004, 04:29 PM
Damn!! that is nice. Running 12's with just nos, thats just amazing.

ZackKVtec
04-28-2004, 04:37 PM
that's sick that a 100 shot took his 1/4 time down 2 whole seconds.

more like 3 seconds and i dont believe it, how is a maxima with just a 100 shot running faster times than a 415 horsepower 911 turbo, he doesnt have a new clutch or exhaust or anything????? he should be breaking u joints with that kind of run

BP2K2Max
04-28-2004, 07:44 PM
no, they're mid-high 14 second cars stock it's about 2 seconds.

bk2kmax
04-28-2004, 08:03 PM
no, they're mid-high 14 second cars stock it's about 2 seconds.

Yes, BP is right the 3.5 Max is 14.2 with a 6speed and between 14.5 & 14.7 for the auto but add in Hotshot headers and the Max is running somewhere in the 13's, so it isn't highly unbelievable that it could run 12's on a 100shot.

As far as running better than a Porsche 911 on stock internals, I'll say this the VQ series is all aluminum and can handle about 500hp on stock internals.

Although it isn't bulletproof like the engine in the Supra TT, it is very strong and with a little strengthening I'm certain that the hp can be taken as far as 700hp with some engine work (maybe some cryogenic treatment and other bulletproofing methods).

All I can say is look out for Jime when he runs the 3.5 with new slicks on 150shot. Can we say 11's?

Caracicatriz
04-29-2004, 12:22 PM
All I can say is look out for Jime when he runs the 3.5 with new slicks on 150shot. Can we say 11's?

Can we say blown engine. jk :iceslolan

ZackKVtec
04-29-2004, 09:22 PM
my b, i thought you were talking about the 3.0

thrasher
05-01-2004, 10:03 AM
I gotta be honest, I don't believe that he's just running a 100 shot, there is definitely something else going on. A 12.1 on a 100 shot? That is faster than a 400hp Ferrari 360 and a 500hp Ferrari 575M. And those are both RWD. Something doen't add up here.

SkyTorch
05-01-2004, 10:10 AM
You don't think the slicks vs. street would make the difference? If you notice in video, the Max got a great launch. Zero loss of traction.

BP2K2Max
05-01-2004, 05:31 PM
i dunno either. 12.1 is really really fast. i'll bet that thing is totally gutted at least.

thrasher
05-01-2004, 07:57 PM
You don't think the slicks vs. street would make the difference? If you notice in video, the Max got a great launch. Zero loss of traction.

No, slicks don't help THAT much. I would think a 100 shot 3.5 Max with slicks could run low 13's at best.

If he did manage to achieve that time with only a 100 shot and slicks, he must have COMPLETELY gutted it, like BP said. That thing would have to lose a couple hundred pounds.

bk2kmax
05-02-2004, 05:43 PM
Let me clear up the doubt that seems to reside here, honestly I'm surprised by some of the members who doubt it, so here goes:

The Maxima 3.5 stock can run in 6spd form 14.2/14.1 add in headers alone will give you and extra 30 or so hp more than good enough to get you into the 13's, maybe 13.7 now add in a catback exhaust, intake or GAB, lightweight UDP, Rev Limiter Removal program<whichever you choose and I'd say you're running low 13's between 13.3-13.5.

I failed to mention that he (Jime) has done something (it is a secret for now) to manipulate the manifold but I'm certain that whatever it was has added to his numbers but the cat isn't outta the bag yet on that one.

Ok, now let's throw in the N20, we're talking 100shot, plus the slicks, let's say for arguments sake the shot is giving him at least 120hp to the wheels and all of that traction (as you can see in the video) is going to the ground so he isn't wasting time spinning as you'll tend to do in a normally aspirated Maxima, let alone a juiced one, so his power is actually being put to use.

Don't forget I said that he tricked out the manifold and as far as gutting, he didn't do anything except remove the backseat and ran on 1/4 tank 100octane<I think.

So it isn't as far fetched as you guys think, remember I think that Blu is running 13's on a stock 3.5 (Auto) Max, so factory freaks are common and let's say for argument's sake that he added that same 100shot and some headers plus all the other mods I mentioned to his ride and those slicks, then what kinda times would we be looking at then? Can anyone say 11 flat or high 10's?

Remember, you saw it on video and seeing is believing, now just wait for that 150shot, warmer weather and new slicks and 11's will be on vid for all of the doubters.

BP2K2Max
05-02-2004, 06:00 PM
he's probably got a 350z intake plenum and intake manifold or something along those lines.

ZackKVtec
05-02-2004, 10:12 PM
dude, you have got to be kidding me, 14.1 stock??? i know mag times are off sometimes but my road and track says 15.0 , and im not hating on the maxima, and a header adding 30 horsepower, COBON, does nissan use .00625" piping on the stock header?? if it really does add 30 hp what were the nissan engineers thinking. Yeah, 14.1 -> 13.7 with one breathing modification and then you go on to add intake, exhaust, and pulleys (lol) and you've dropped your e.t. almost a whole second?? i went to the track yesterday and a maxima that looked like the one in BP2K2Max's sig was running a consistent 16 flat, and if this shix about maximas dropping a second on their 1/4 mile time with i/h/e is the truth, than the maxima is born an asthmatic

SkyTorch
05-02-2004, 10:36 PM
if it really does add 30 hp what were the nissan engineers thinking.

Not hard. The Max will never have stock headers or much in the way of performance mods from the factory. It's a family sedan. It's the same reason that the Camry or Accord doesn't.

ZackKVtec
05-02-2004, 10:49 PM
then why do they boast about its 265 horses on the commercials, when they could soo easily be boasting 295?, what im saying is, it's not true that they in fact add 30 horses

SkyTorch
05-03-2004, 08:42 AM
then why do they boast about its 265 horses on the commercials, when they could soo easily be boasting 295?, what im saying is, it's not true that they in fact add 30 horses

But if it was true, the max still wouldn't have headers. The reason it boast such horsepower is the because of the base VQ35 engine. It is also in the 350Z, I35, G35, Pathfinder, Altima 3.5, FX35 and the Murano I think. It's the standard Nissan V6 engine, at least today. Another in a series of top ten ranked engines.

ZackKVtec
05-03-2004, 09:54 AM
the maxima wouldnt have an exhaust header? what are you talking about?

VQmax95
05-03-2004, 03:37 PM
the maxima wouldnt have an exhaust header? what are you talking about?
It would come with the stock Manifolds. I think skytorch is talking about aftermarket headers. I'm pretty sure the Headers that are made for the Max didn't make 30hp. I think it was like 7.

VQmax95
05-03-2004, 03:40 PM
i went to the track yesterday and a maxima that looked like the one in BP2K2Max's sig was running a consistent 16 flat
Its quite possible that it was a 2k or 2k1. They had the 3.0, so they would be running considerably slower. Its easy to mistake the 2k-2k1s with the 2k2-2k3s if you don't know what you're looking for.

VQmax95
05-03-2004, 03:47 PM
He lists all of his mods and what not on this thread...Incase you guys still care.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=305469

SkyTorch
05-03-2004, 05:15 PM
It would come with the stock Manifolds. I think skytorch is talking about aftermarket headers. I'm pretty sure the Headers that are made for the Max didn't make 30hp. I think it was like 7.

Is that what the confusion was? No, I don't consider the stock exhaust manifold 'headers'. Though, in some cases, they don't look all that different. In either case, I was talking about these...

http://store4.yimg.com/I/southwestautoworks2002-store_1787_7043572

These are going to make a Max sound deep. Suzy homemaker wouldn't appreciate it, and there are alot of Suzy Homemakers driving Maximas.

bk2kmax
05-03-2004, 10:41 PM
dude, you have got to be kidding me, 14.1 stock??? i know mag times are off sometimes but my road and track says 15.0 , and im not hating on the maxima, and a header adding 30 horsepower, COBON, does nissan use .00625" piping on the stock header?? if it really does add 30 hp what were the nissan engineers thinking. Yeah, 14.1 -> 13.7 with one breathing modification and then you go on to add intake, exhaust, and pulleys (lol) and you've dropped your e.t. almost a whole second?? i went to the track yesterday and a maxima that looked like the one in BP2K2Max's sig was running a consistent 16 flat, and if this shix about maximas dropping a second on their 1/4 mile time with i/h/e is the truth, than the maxima is born an asthmatic


There's obviously alot of hate going on from you Zack and you don't seem to sh*t about Maximas because you drive a Honda, so go and do some research and who gives a rats @$$ about what you claim you saw at some track, I don't believe it and neither does anyone else here. A 2k2 Max running 16 second 1/4 mile times, either his car has got some major problems or he had a Honda motor in it.

Yes, you're obviously a Mag racer if you believe 15.0 for a 6spd 3.5 Max, my 2k auto with 222hp and a GAB ran 15.2 with the GTECH Pro. consistenly.

I have an 03 3.5 Max and it is miles faster than my 2k ever would be, plus I wish that I was in your town, I'd race that hooptie you got anyday.

Yes, 30HP on Hotshot Headers, it is proven by dynos on www.maxima.org (http://www.maxima.org), go there and do a search for hotshot header dynos and you'll see for yourself.
You drive a honda so maybe you haven't never driven a 2k Max or a 3.5 Max, I guarantee you that a 3.5 doesn't run a 15.0 anything, now a 2K auto runs 15.2 all day but the 3.5 is a whole nother animal.

Go get a clue or don't come here flaming Maximas, especially if you drive a Honda.

ZackKVtec
05-04-2004, 11:22 AM
ill tell you what, you are the most biased motherfucker on these entire forums i have seen to date, its people like you that piss everyone off, going around saying their car is fast as shit when we know its fast, just not quite as fast as you say... and yes i did see a max like i said run a 16.0 twice, you know what, all cars are not that same, and please, post the 15.2 timeslip or else stfu about it, seriously, or never mention it again, your choice... oh i see your one of those guys who looks at the dyno for a certain product, and is like well, that must be the 100% truth, in that case do you have any idea how much hp i gained from my cai, IVE SEEN UP TO 21! do i think i gained even close to 21?? HELL NO.
lol oh yeah and im a mag racer because i quoted one time from road and track, your a tool... and i wouldnt be in here if you didnt lie in the first place, i looked at the list of mods he had, and he was not stock what does your name stand for ? biased kid with a 2k max?

SkyTorch
05-04-2004, 03:37 PM
Ain't no need for all this. Jime, good run brotha. Even better that it was against domestic. Everybody else, peace.

bk2kmax
05-05-2004, 09:30 PM
ill tell you what, you are the most biased motherfucker on these entire forums i have seen to date, its people like you that piss everyone off, going around saying their car is fast as shit when we know its fast, just not quite as fast as you say... and yes i did see a max like i said run a 16.0 twice, you know what, all cars are not that same, and please, post the 15.2 timeslip or else stfu about it, seriously, or never mention it again, your choice... oh i see your one of those guys who looks at the dyno for a certain product, and is like well, that must be the 100% truth, in that case do you have any idea how much hp i gained from my cai, IVE SEEN UP TO 21! do i think i gained even close to 21?? HELL NO.
lol oh yeah and im a mag racer because i quoted one time from road and track, your a tool... and i wouldnt be in here if you didnt lie in the first place, i looked at the list of mods he had, and he was not stock what does your name stand for ? biased kid with a 2k max?

Yes, I'am a motherf*cker because I just got off of your mom. Now to address your obviously don't know jack about the Max talking smack a$$>First off, I never said I ran at the track in my 2k Max, I used my friend's G-Tech Pro (nevermind, you probably don't even know what that is). And as far as posting timeslips, I wouldn't even bother to post that slow time you have with that GSR.

Second, you said it yourself that you only saw 1 Maxima run, which isn't representative of all the Maximas as I'm certain your slow @$$ sig time for your GSR isn't representative of all GSRs.

Third, joker, I have not one but 2 Maximas, one is a 2k max and the other is a 2k3 Max and this kid happens to be old enough to be your daddy and I might just be since I just got off your mother.

One more thing, you still are a mag racer regardless of what you say, you're just like the typical Honda superiority complex punk threadjacker who comes here and talks crap plus no one likes you. I never said that my car was fast but I guarantee it is faster than that piece of sh*t GSR that you have.

I bet your GSR stands for Gay, Stupid and Retarded, which you obviously are if you're going to come here bashing and don't have any facts.

ZackKVtec
05-05-2004, 10:31 PM
calm down man, and go buy some groceries, you still continue to be the most biased person i have seen to date on these forums

im sorry if 15.2 is slow, that was my first time at the track, and isnt that what you supposedly ran in your 2k max?

you def need to be banned for ignorance, i dont even think you read what i posted... i did not bash, i said that the person who thinks an exhaust header adds 30 hp on any car is wrong , i even said the posted dyno times for a mod i have on my car are not 100% true

I bet your GSR stands for Gay, Stupid and Retarded, which you obviously are if you're going to come here bashing and don't have any facts.
:rofl: how old are you again? and btw your the one who starting saying low 13's for a max with bolt ons with absolutly no facts, i was just trying to get the truth, im so sick of these martyrs on these forums that think they have to say their make and model of car is soo fast, and lie about it, i have never and will never do that

NSX-R-SSJ20K
05-06-2004, 07:56 AM
I had a volvo S70 T5 and i knew it was faster than a 2002 maxima because i raced and beat a bunch. I checked the 1/4 miles for each car and the maxima is 15.5 and the volvo is 14.9. Zack seems to be right.

VQmax95
05-06-2004, 01:08 PM
I had a volvo S70 T5 and i knew it was faster than a 2002 maxima because i raced and beat a bunch. I checked the 1/4 miles for each car and the maxima is 15.5 and the volvo is 14.9. Zack seems to be right.
Hey thats Great. I don't remember anyone talking about volvos though...

bk2kmax
05-06-2004, 05:10 PM
calm down man, and go buy some groceries, you still continue to be the most biased person i have seen to date on these forums

im sorry if 15.2 is slow, that was my first time at the track, and isnt that what you supposedly ran in your 2k max?

you def need to be banned for ignorance, i dont even think you read what i posted... i did not bash, i said that the person who thinks an exhaust header adds 30 hp on any car is wrong , i even said the posted dyno times for a mod i have on my car are not 100% true


:rofl: how old are you again? and btw your the one who starting saying low 13's for a max with bolt ons with absolutly no facts, i was just trying to get the truth, im so sick of these martyrs on these forums that think they have to say their make and model of car is soo fast, and lie about it, i have never and will never do that

Calm down, well I have news for you sonny boy, I'am calm and you should see me when I get heated. As far as biased I provided you with a link to Maxima.org to go and do the research yourself, so how is that biased.
You come to our forum trolling and you don't even have a Maxima nor have you ever probably driven one either but yet you think that a 2k2/2k3 Maxima runs 16's and that other guy with the Japanese name who owns a Volvo talking about a you're right obviously hasn't raced a 2k3/2k2 either, so both of you are speaking out of your own biases.

Your bias comes from the only Maxima you claim you saw run a 16 at the track, his bias comes from supposedly him beating not one but several (not sure what year he was racing or lying about) Maximas, either way go to www.maxima.org (http://www.maxima.org) and look for the timeslips of 2k2/2k3 Maximas at the track and I guarantee you that there aren't any that has ran anything less than a 14.7 and that is stock times for the 1/4.

This is what your NSX boyfriend posted:

I checked the 1/4 miles for each car and the maxima is 15.5 and the volvo is 14.9. Zack seems to be right

Where did you check the times at Magracer? What website? Have you ever driven a 2k2/2k3 Maxima?

I wish you were in or near my town, I guarantee I'd spank your Volvo with relative ease in my 2k3.

If you guys want to play Mag racer then I'm certain that I can find plenty of websites that will tell you that the 2k2/2k3 Auto Maxima 0-60 is 6.2 and the 1/4 is 14.7 at 94 mph.

And the 6spd 2k2/2k3 Maxima is 6.0 flat to 60 and the 1/4 at 14.3 at 97 mph, so go ahead and mag race all you want.

But go to Maxima.org to their timeslip database thread and see for yourself, I guarantee 99% of the Maximas that are 2k2/2k3 6spd or Auto will dust either of your mag times.

thrasher
05-06-2004, 05:37 PM
I had a volvo S70 T5 and i knew it was faster than a 2002 maxima because i raced and beat a bunch. I checked the 1/4 miles for each car and the maxima is 15.5 and the volvo is 14.9. Zack seems to be right.

I could see an Auto 2k2 with a bad driver running that time. No respectable 6 speeds would be that slow though. T5 is a pretty good engine, I got some resepct. Still ain't a VQ though. :naughty:

syr74
05-06-2004, 09:09 PM
I have to agree....a 12.3 with a stock motor, a hundred shot of nitrous, and some slicks is total bullshit. And, it would still be bullshit even if you put headers on it......Sorry.

People may say the "proof" is in the timeslip but that doesn't prove jack shit about what is under the hood. With a hundred horse shot of nitrous he is making what......maybe 340hp at the wheels on a good day? Maybe 400hp at the crank?

And all of this in a relatively heavy fwd car? No way, unless you just invented the new math.

bk2kmax
05-06-2004, 10:27 PM
I have to agree....a 12.3 with a stock motor, a hundred shot of nitrous, and some slicks is total bullshit. And, it would still be bullshit even if you put headers on it......Sorry.

People may say the "proof" is in the timeslip but that doesn't prove jack shit about what is under the hood. With a hundred horse shot of nitrous he is making what......maybe 340hp at the wheels on a good day? Maybe 400hp at the crank?

And all of this in a relatively heavy fwd car? No way, unless you just invented the new math.

What do you call relatively heavy? His car weighs no more than 3100 lbs and to put that into perspective a Z06 vette weighs around the same and has 400hp on tap and can do the 1/4 in 12's, so what is so unusual about a car with similar Hp and slicks being able to do the same thing?

You come here flaming but the timeslip plus the fact that if you go over to www.maxima.org (http://www.maxima.org) you can see his mods listed on his page, also I might add that there were many Haters such as yourself at the track who didn't believe him either, he left the hood open in between runs and allowed everyone who wanted to look all through the vehicle to search for a turbo or an sc that may have been hidden but there was none to find.

What is wrong with you guys, you just can't seem to accept that a fwd Sedan is this capable on a 100 shot of nitrous.

And in case you haven't read the previous posts regarding this issue, he (Jime) will be running a 150shot set up on some newer and better slicks than he had on this car on the 3.5 Max and I'm certain that 11's aren't out of the question.

But go ahead and continue flaming and hating, when the proof is there for you to see for yourself (the video and the website with his mods).

SkyTorch
05-07-2004, 09:57 AM
-Hotshot headers
-Budget B and Test-Pipe, Vibrant Muffler
-Homegrown intake
-NX Dual Stage Wet standalone System (pump, tank etc)
-NGK LFR6A's gapped at .035"
-B&M 24,000 GVW Trans cooler and Ben's drop resistor mod
-Front - Tokico Illumina's, K1 15x7's's & M/T 22x8x15 slicks (used)
-Rear - Tokico Illumina's, Millenia 15x6,cheap 185 tires
-Poly Race Seats (Summit)
-S-AFC II, TechEdge WBo2 Wideband, Harrison OBD-II Scan

Here are the mods. No magic pill in the list. No turbo. No supercharger. Looks like he got a full exhaust treatment, intake, hot plugs, light racing seats running on used slicks. The only thing in the list the adds any real power is the Nitrous.

For the all mag types, when Motor trend testing the G35 (which has the same 3.5 VQ engine) they thought the acceleration was more like a V8 then a V6. A mustang GT has 4.6L V8 with only 260hp, which btw was my first kill in a I35 (the infiniti's version of the maxima for those not familiar) loan car. The inifiniti was a dealer loan car that was full stock and it was an automatic. The acceration is just stupid. The only way you wouldn't already know that is if you've never driven one. If you judge the car by the mag or the cars exterior, you'll be looking at tail lights wondering "What happened?!"

ZackKVtec
05-07-2004, 01:32 PM
well, if thats all he has fod mods, im extremely impressed not only by the vq but also by the suspension used on the max, thats insane, a 12 sec 1/4 mile on stock, suspension, does he have an lsd or just slicks?

bk2kmax
05-07-2004, 06:12 PM
well, if thats all he has fod mods, im extremely impressed not only by the vq but also by the suspension used on the max, thats insane, a 12 sec 1/4 mile on stock, suspension, does he have an lsd or just slicks?

See that is all I was saying Zack, I don't want to argue or turn this into a me vs you thread or anything like that, so let's squash the garbage between us and let bygones be bygones.

I'm not biased and if there was/is any Maxima running like crap or crap times then I'll be the first to point it out to you, especially any Maximas that are riced out, I hate that on these cars.

And to answer your question, he does not have LSD, only the slicks which weren't in the best shape at the time and were too small for him to really let go (it is understood that he babied the clutch on his launches) so with the new slicks and this time he will run on the 3.5 Max with the 150 shot then I'm not saying that he will run 11's for sure but it is very possible.

So good luck to you with whatever you decide to do with your car and I hope that you don't rice like some Honda owners seem to do. I look forward to hearing from you and please forgive me for the earlier outburst.

DSMJim
05-07-2004, 06:56 PM
no, they're mid-high 14 second cars stock it's about 2 seconds.

The car did 13.5 N/A (meaning no nitrous) and that video was 12.3 however the car did 12.1 @ 113 that day on the 100hp shot. He burnt a few mustangs and other "fast" cars at the track as well..

Believe it guys, I shot that video and that's my dads car lol... It really does that. Faster than my Talon :eek7:

ZackKVtec
05-07-2004, 08:44 PM
dude man, that is so insane, porsche 911 n/a times, in a basically stock max, your dad is the man DSMJim

syr74
05-15-2004, 01:25 PM
-Hotshot headers
-Budget B and Test-Pipe, Vibrant Muffler
-Homegrown intake
-NX Dual Stage Wet standalone System (pump, tank etc)
-NGK LFR6A's gapped at .035"
-B&M 24,000 GVW Trans cooler and Ben's drop resistor mod
-Front - Tokico Illumina's, K1 15x7's's & M/T 22x8x15 slicks (used)
-Rear - Tokico Illumina's, Millenia 15x6,cheap 185 tires
-Poly Race Seats (Summit)
-S-AFC II, TechEdge WBo2 Wideband, Harrison OBD-II Scan

Here are the mods. No magic pill in the list. No turbo. No supercharger. Looks like he got a full exhaust treatment, intake, hot plugs, light racing seats running on used slicks. The only thing in the list the adds any real power is the Nitrous.

For the all mag types, when Motor trend testing the G35 (which has the same 3.5 VQ engine) they thought the acceleration was more like a V8 then a V6. A mustang GT has 4.6L V8 with only 260hp, which btw was my first kill in a I35 (the infiniti's version of the maxima for those not familiar) loan car. The inifiniti was a dealer loan car that was full stock and it was an automatic. The acceration is just stupid. The only way you wouldn't already know that is if you've never driven one. If you judge the car by the mag or the cars exterior, you'll be looking at tail lights wondering "What happened?!"

The above is a little more believable when talking aboput a 12.3 run. What's the difference??? Well, it started out as "nitrous and slicks", then it became "nitrous and headers with slicks", and now we see there are three other areas of major mods too. I have no problem with that, and a 12.3 is impressive even with these mods.

However, let me say that a LOT of what causes the import crowd to lose credibility are the things they neglect to mention when they qoute times. It would be like a guy in an 03 Cobra claiming he made 500rwhp with "Just" a pulley and a cat back exhaust while neglecting to mention his chip and throttle body.

The chip and throttle body sound like, and in a way are, very "small mods" that happen to make a hell of a lot of difference in power and acceleration. If I had a nickle for every time I have seen an import guy dyno his turbo car on 4.00 a gallon gas and then qoute this as "street" hp I would be rich. "Forgetting" mods is basically the same thing. Credibility is earned.

It may seem like I am nit-picking, but the whole premise of this post is the time he ran with "just" nitrous and slicks. If you are going to qoute a time bragging about how little you did to get x acceleration and want credibility then you had better remember to list everything. As I said, there are THREE mods up there that can make a lot more hp than the car would without them and take this from the "bullshit list" to the "impressive but could be done" realm.

As for why a Maxima with similar weight, setup and hp wont run Vette Z06 times it's simple...we call it physics. Weight transfer and center of gravity benefit the Vette, not the Maxima. All else being equal, with equal drivers, a Maxima should lose to a Z06. You either need more hp or traction to make it even. With the above mods and slicks Vette Z06 times seem about right. As, hp should be well over 400 at the crank with the above mods. And, it is believable that there is enough extra hp to equal Z06 times as he has done.

SkyTorch
05-15-2004, 04:14 PM
Import crowd loses credibility? With who? We're the friggin majority! In either case, a car with a V6 beat a car with a larger V8. I'm sure by listening to the TA/Firebird, it also had it's share of aftermarket products. Most of the mods in the Max list can collectively add some hp and acceleration (w/o NO2 and slicks), but not enough to give the launch that I saw on the video. That was a stellar take off. And while we all have had some doubts about the validity of the claim, don't come here spouting hearsay about the "import crowd" to use your phrase. Who you need to be talking to is the guy that got his ass kicked by a family sedan and got recorded on video. Seems like that guy lost some "credibility".

bk2kmax
05-17-2004, 05:39 PM
Syr, FYI, headers and whatever else he had on the car Bar the N20 doesn't really add a hell of alot to our cars, some have dynoed with an extra 20plus hp more with the headers, so that isn't anything hugely important in this equation.

And as stated, I'm certain the V8 it raced was modded, now if this was 2 similar cars and one had headers and the other didn't, then we could claim some credibility issues but as it stands see the video and weep because your beloved V8 just got its' lunch box taken by a Grocery Getter Sedan.

Jimme
05-17-2004, 07:57 PM
Just to clear up a few misconceptions about MY car.

0. Stock Automatic Transmission
1. Stock internals, open diff, NO lsd and it ran a 1.75 60'
2. The only performance mods other than the nitrous are the intake, exhaust and struts.
3. The intake manifold is stock no mods, just a homemade midpipe and filter.
4. All the other mods are basically safety mods. ie Transcooler, DR mod, colder plugs, S-AFC, wideband etc to save the transmission and prevent detonation.
5. Race weight is 3000 lbs.
6. I am not getting new slicks just backing off to a 50 shot out of the hole.
7. Oh ya the Trans AM did have slicks, they will not allow street tires in the burnout box at our track.
8. If it doesn't rain I am hopefully going to the track on Sat or Sun to try for an 11 with a 150 shot.
9. My car is not a factory freak. If it is then its the 3rd one in a row I have had. All my mods and times are repeatable by anyone who is interested.
10. My guestimate on HP is approx 225 N/A and the nitrous adds another 100 (NX guarantees this to be within 2%). So 325 whp total which is exactly what my 4th Gen 3.0L was putting out when it ran 12.1 last year (same weight too) so it can be done fairly easily.
11. Someone stole my name so I am now Jimme.

PS I washed it yesterday, first time since I got it 2 1/2 months ago so it will definately be faster now. I also am going to be trying out some new lighter rear wheels/tires.

bk2kmax
05-17-2004, 08:41 PM
Just to clear up a few misconceptions about MY car.

1. Stock internals, open diff, NO lsd and it ran a 1.75 60'
2. The only performance mods other than the nitrous are the intake, exhaust and struts.
3. The intake manifold is stock no mods, just a homemade midpipe and filter.
4. All the other mods are basically safety mods. ie Transcooler, DR mod, colder plugs, S-AFC, wideband etc to save the transmission and prevent detonation.
5. Race weight is 3000 lbs.
6. I am not getting new slicks just backing off to a 50 shot out of the hole.
7. Oh ya the Trans AM did have slicks, they will not allow street tires in the burnout box at our track.
8. If it doesn't rain I am hopefully going to the track on Sat or Sun to try for an 11 with a 150 shot.
9. My car is not a factory freak. If it is then its the 3rd one in a row I have had. All my mods and times are repeatable by anyone who is interested.
10. My guestimate on HP is approx 225 N/A and the nitrous adds another 100 (NX guarantees this to be within 2%). So 325 whp total which is exactly what my 4th Gen 3.0L was putting out when it ran 12.1 last year (same weight too) so it can be done fairly easily.
11. Someone stole my name so I am now Jimme.

PS I washed it yesterday, first time since I got it 2 1/2 months ago so it will definately be faster now. I also am going to be trying out some new lighter rear wheels/tires.

Thanks Jime for clearing up the misquotes I made regarding your mods, I apologize for that.

There are just so many doubters (the ones who troll from other forums to here,even though they can see the video) that I had to lend some credibility to what you did on the track.

And you'll always be Jime to me, no matter what copycat steals your name.

Jimme
05-17-2004, 08:46 PM
Thanks Jime for clearing up the misquotes I made regarding your mods, I apologize for that.

There are just so many doubters (the ones who troll from other forums to here,even though they can see the video) that I had to lend some credibility to what you did on the track.

And you'll always be Jime to me, no matter what copycat steals your name.


Hey you did a great job supporting me, thanks. Its nice to get a little help vs someone trying to bust your balls all the time.

I have made a lot of changes etc and some of the stuff I did to the 3.0L I didn't do to the 3.5L etc. That coupled with the fact I am on my 3rd Maxima confuses just about everybody. I also keep on trying different stuff and would like to try the intake mod you mentioned but Matt is keeping that under wraps and I don't really know what it is yet.

Was planning on getting new slicks too but I don't think it would change much. The 3.5 is just that much torquier than the 3.0 and the tires just won't hold, so I hit the 2nd stage after the 1-2 shift. My 60' times are exactly the same as they were with a 150 shot out of the hole with the 3.0L.

SkyTorch
05-17-2004, 09:53 PM
Dude (jimme), whether we all beleive or not, you just keep posting video of V8's getting knocked off the box. Seriously, it does my heart good to see a Nissan put the Kung Fu to some fool. In the long run, we all will fend off the wolves from other forums looking to put thier 1/2 cents worth in where it don't belong. Guarenteed.

If you take request, I like to see a mustang next :iceslolan

bk2kmax
05-19-2004, 06:38 PM
Hey you did a great job supporting me, thanks. Its nice to get a little help vs someone trying to bust your balls all the time.

I have made a lot of changes etc and some of the stuff I did to the 3.0L I didn't do to the 3.5L etc. That coupled with the fact I am on my 3rd Maxima confuses just about everybody. I also keep on trying different stuff and would like to try the intake mod you mentioned but Matt is keeping that under wraps and I don't really know what it is yet.

Was planning on getting new slicks too but I don't think it would change much. The 3.5 is just that much torquier than the 3.0 and the tires just won't hold, so I hit the 2nd stage after the 1-2 shift. My 60' times are exactly the same as they were with a 150 shot out of the hole with the 3.0L.

We should be thanking you for representing like that, it isn't often that we'll see things like that.

I like to see a mustang next :iceslolan<quote by Skytorch

Yes, I love to see Rustangs get smoked by Maximas but they aren't really anything too special unless they are Cobras or something so heavily modded that makes it more interesting, hell, I dust Stangs on a regular in my 2k3 and all I have is a GAB.

JBL85
05-20-2004, 12:41 AM
before you go bashin the stang, I still like and respect the car, its just as easy to make fast as the maxima and from experience, they sure as hell can take way more of a beating, especially RWD.....but when comparing a 12 second Maxima to regular cars, I give it props

SkyTorch
05-20-2004, 02:12 AM
they sure as hell can take way more of a beating, especially RWD

True. I seen more than my share of raggedy mustangs still on the road. But then again, I prefer to keep my car off the curb, away from of ditches and I don't take turns at 80 in the rain. Often I associate the car with the driver. A seventeen year old kid with more power than brains. It also popular with the hair plug/gold chain crowd. Sorry, man. It makes tops on my kill list with beemers at a close 2nd.

JBL85
05-20-2004, 03:57 AM
Dont get what you are talking about....but about beating them....if you are in So Cal I have a few people that would race you at the track for money.

Jimme
10-12-2006, 06:58 AM
Just an update for this year. I took the engine out of the 2002 Maxima and swapped it to my 95. Using the same mods with the exception of cams the car now runs 12.4 @ 109 N/A. (no nitrous)

Next step is a 100-150 shot of spray to see what kind of 11 sec run it will do.

http://jime.homeip.net/maximase/1248.jpg

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