civics suck

dude it took me forever to find a site with act clutches and flywheels for the 7th gen. celica

mines a 5th gen and there plentiful...for the 5sfe... kinda hard to find stuff for the 4afe... hey does neone know what the fastest 4afe ever was? hp and tourqe if u know it ....thanks

El Reto Racing Puerto Rico AE101 4AFE 16v turbo 14.988 95.91mph

this true?

http://www.radcastro.com/Projects/Project+ST2GT4/default.aspx

check out this and see whats up with it

he ran a 14.9 with a turbo?? hmm thats pretty slow...and you think you will run in the 15's with your mod?? i mean i dont know but if he does a high 14 with a turbo then do you really think you will run a 15 with the few mods that you have? i will believe it when i see it.

aw hell...

no i was asking if thats the fastest one...thats just a 4afe with a turbo kit...nothing else, around 200 HP w it...

still with around 200 hp thats pretty good for a 1.6

still with around 200 hp thats pretty good for a 1.6
okay im gunna explain something to people...not only do u have to look at Hp ratings, you look at what the car is, Fwd, Rwd and all wheel drive
and you cannot forget the wiehgt, one of the most important pieces

i can have a 1.2 liter engine with 200 Hp FWD and a 2000 pound car and a 3.0 liter engine with 200 Hp and a 3600 pound car AWD, the 1.2 liter will hands down beat the 3.0 because of the massive weight difference

m gunna provide a bit of an example

think...all track....200 Hp and 3200 pounds, all wheel drive so it gets awsome starts, but loses alot of hp to the wheels 15-25% through the transmission/ driveshaft becuase all wheel drive

St...200 Hp at the crank and 2100 pounds and loses 5-12% to the wheels...only Fwd so not as good as a start but gets more pickup after the launch beause more Hp to the wheels and the much lesser weight

In my mind the St would take the all track because the way less weight and the fact it dosent lose at much Hp to the wheels..

if your basing that an all trac runs mid 14's with the 200Hp then dont base that against a 200 Hp St.... if an St had 200 Hp it would take the all track because its close to 1000 pounds lighter... even the all tracks launch wouldnt be too much better, because the st would shoot off the line cause the way less weight

if anyone has a different OPINION then state it... dont be dicks like earlier with the civics comments

and could someone help find what the fastest 4afe engine is in a celica? im looking into modding the shit outta mine unless its some crazy number like 8 seconds

my opinion for all-trac, it'd make a good rally car because its all wheel drive and it'd handle better on rally courses.

i was just sayn 1/4 times, for shure the all trac would kill in a rally race

dude i wasnt arguing with you...i gave it a compliment...i know all about weight and torque and the loosing percentage between FF cars FR cars MR cars and AWD cars throught he drivetrain... i just simply said that if a celica st your same car with a turbo had 200 hp and ran a 14 something which is good... then check your mods and see how they compare to them is all. i am telling you i am not a moron...i used to have a crx si-r with almost 200 hp with my mods on the 1.6 liter engine and a very light car...i beat my fair share of gt's that had 260 hp.

haha to me u came off as an ass, i guess thats why you cant show emotion on the internet,

i can be when its called for but i am normally not unless pused to it.

whats goin on, im confuseded

haha he so confused he went beyond the point of confusion he went
"confuseded"

damn there are so many posts

because it was an intersting subject...i still say the y lock this post becuase it is retarded

this is like a number one open opinion thread, come on

haha

well toyota and honda are pretty big rivals they have many simliar type cars

how come it was hondas suck? why didnt u just say honda and acura

i dont like honda's but i knwo a shitload of em out there can still kcik my ass in a race, and mostof u people cant deny that either.

i dont like Hondas, exept the dc5 and the NSX

eh ive always favored toyota but never really hated on any brand jsut didnt like a few of the other cars, maily civic, too many of em and realisically ive never seen one that handles as good or better than a celica stock to stock (yes tehre are some that handle extrmemly well with lotsa $$$in suspension)

the only problem with the celica i would say is: low torque and suspension.