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anund
03-17-2004, 01:45 PM
Hi!
I visited Gothenburg Motorshow 2004 a while back. Among other cars such as Maybach 620, Porsche Carrera GT (a favorite!) and Schumachers Ferrari F1 (don't remember which year) was two McLaren F1:s. I guess the orange one is #11R, but this time it had a license plate. But I donät know anything about the longtail, could someone please fill me in on that one?

BMW V12
03-17-2004, 02:01 PM
you took some nice pics , thx anund

yes , the orange gtr should be #11R and the white fina car #23R.

^_^

BMW V12
03-17-2004, 02:10 PM
you can find some other information in this older thread:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=193245

^_^

drPhibes
03-17-2004, 02:55 PM
some more info on #11r from the swedish vehicle authorities:

Reg. #: UAX806
Colour: ORANGE
Manufacturer: MCLAREN F1 GTR
Year: 1996
Chassis #: SA9AB5CC6T1048R11
Date of registration: 2003-06-27

owner:
PACIFIC SPORTCARS I STOCKHOLM AB
BOX 7343
103 90
STOCKHOLM

anund
03-17-2004, 04:02 PM
Oh, I didn't see that other post.

Peloton25
03-17-2004, 09:02 PM
Great photos - thanks!

Can you translate the last photo of the sign to English for us? I can understand the basics, but I'm curious what it's referring to where it mentions the Mercedes V12 engine. :confused:

>8^)
ER

cabrio92
03-18-2004, 07:11 AM
Thanks Anund,

In Sweden, you are lucky enough to see regularly F1 :)

Ciao
Phil

anund
03-18-2004, 07:55 AM
McLaren - a living legend
The first McLaren-car was presented 1993 in Monaco, hence it's 10-year anniversary 2003. It's the finest and most well built car ever produced. There has been 107 McLarens built in total. XP-1, the first prototype, is the only McLaren F1-car ever destroyed. It burned up during the final testing in "hot" climate 1992.
Le Mans 24 hours 1995 was won by a McLaren F1, which also has the official speed record for manufactured street legal cars, 240.1 mph = approx. 386.7 km/h

Orange McLaren F1 GTR
This McLaren F1 GTR (1996) is the so-called "Frank Muller" McLaren that raced in the BPR-serie 1996-97. It also served as a test-bench for McLaren Motorsport when they tested the Mercedes V12-engine. It's been rebuilt for street use by McLaren Cars Ltd and is registered in Sweden.

Engine: BMW V12 6.1 liters, approx. 600 hp 7000 rpm, approx. 700 Nm 4000 rpm
Drive Train: 6-gear sequential
Weight: 1012 kg
Performance: Acceleration 1-100 km/h 3.2 sec. Top speed approx. 340 km/h

anund
03-18-2004, 07:57 AM
The weird thing is that I don't know what the McLarens where doing there. There where no ads for any company or similar, just the cars. I didn't mind though.

maartenvanthek
03-18-2004, 10:32 AM
was there anything written about the owner, or did you ask any questions?

drPhibes
03-18-2004, 12:30 PM
11r is AFAIK part of Tom Bryant-Meissner's collection (which also contains cars like dauer eb110ss, dauer 962lm, mclaren f1 road car (green), jag xj220, diablo gt, porsche gt1, merc clk gtr, f50 +++). according to some swedes on an other forum I visited some time ago (unfortunately I can't remember which), several of his cars are available for sale at ks-autohandel in germany, where 23r also is located, so there seems to be a connection between ks-autohandel and pacific sportscars (the registered owner of 11r and the dauer eb110ss (I haven't seen any swedish licence plates on any of the other meissner-owned cars, so I haven't been able to check them out))

anund
03-18-2004, 12:51 PM
drPhibes: I belive that he also owns/has owned #51, dark green, as can be seen on my other pictures in link removed . I was told in another post on this forum that he was selling that one, so I don't know who owns it now. The licenseplate number was RJC 547, at least back in 2001 (I think...).

EDIT: I noticed now that you can make out the license plate at least partially on the Porsche 911 GT1. RRS *49, I think it's RRS 349. Crappy camera.

maartenvanthek: I didn't se any more signs, and there was nobody there. "Only" the two McLarens, I couldn't even find any connection to any company.

maartenvanthek
03-18-2004, 12:55 PM
you know anything of a tom bryant meissner?

Peloton25
03-18-2004, 02:31 PM
anund - thanks for the translation and the new #051 photos. :cool:

>8^)
ER

drPhibes
03-18-2004, 03:11 PM
#51:

Reg #: RJC547
Colour: MGRÖN
Manufacturer: MC.LAREN F1 2 DOOR
Year: 1995
Chassis #: SA9AB5AC2S1048051

Owner:
NAKSAM MASKIN AB
BOX 7343
103 90
STOCKHOLM

(different company name, but the same address as pacific sportscars ab and pacific bil ab)

porsche gt1:

Reg #: RRS349
PORSCHE 993GTI
Chassis #: WP0ZZZ99ZWS396008

Owner:

PACIFIC BIL AB
BOX 7343
103 90
STOCKHOLM

Peloton25
03-18-2004, 03:40 PM
Wow - you don't mess around. :D

It should be noted that #051 is technically a 1996 road car and not a 1995. At least that is what McLaren considers the car to be based on the build date.

>8^)
ER

mini magic
03-18-2004, 04:38 PM
omg, thanks a lot for the gt1's vin. i appreciate it. btw, its a 996gt1, not a 993.

drPhibes
03-18-2004, 10:51 PM
the data is taken from the swedish vehicle authorities, so it apparently says that it is a 993 in the registration documents. I don't know anything about porsches, so don't ask me :)

anund
03-19-2004, 10:39 AM
anund - thanks for the translation and the new #051 photos. :cool:

>8^)
ER

No problem, but I actually posted the photos of #51 before, in this thread: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=172254
The link in that thread is dead now, but it's the same photos.

Thanks to drPhibes for the registration info.

teflon
03-19-2004, 12:13 PM
omg, thanks a lot for the gt1's vin. i appreciate it. btw, its a 996gt1, not a 993.

Actually, it isn't. The original versions of the GT1 were based off of the front structure of the 993s.

FWIW the chassis numbers for all of the GT1s start w/ "GT1-" except for the '98s which are "GT1/98-". I need to clarify that this was for the race cars, not the few road cars.

EDIT: OR, Mr. Bernoulli's reference is even better.

Greg A

Mr. Bernoulli
03-19-2004, 12:50 PM
This may help:

http://www.racecar.co.uk/talacrest/stock/WPOZZZ99ZVS396001.htm

lynx_effect
03-19-2004, 02:36 PM
So the mclaren in the background is the other one owned by Tom Bryant-Meissner.

http://www.cyd.liu.se/users/~andgu842/Mantorp/Mercedes%20CLK%20GTR_07.jpg

adam.

anund
03-19-2004, 03:35 PM
lynx_effect: Yes, but that must be the worst picture of it you could find among my pictures...

mini magic
03-19-2004, 03:42 PM
Actually, it isn't. The original versions of the GT1 were based off of the front structure of the 993s. FWIW the chassis numbers for all of the GT1s start w/ "GT1-" except for the '98s which are "GT1/98-".

EDIT: OR, Mr. Bernoulli's reference is even better.

Greg A
True. I was basing my answer on body style. I'm making a chassis list of the gt1's and thats why i thanked you.

lynx_effect
03-19-2004, 07:23 PM
lynx_effect: Yes, but that must be the worst picture of it you could find among my pictures...


really? i didn't go through all of them, i'll be sure to now though if there are better ones.

cheers.

jcsaleen
03-20-2004, 06:22 PM
Thanks for the pics anund. There Sick Do u always take pics? Do u have other Galleries?

anund
03-21-2004, 12:43 PM
jcsaleen:
Glad you liked them. These are the only two galleries I have, but I do have som more pics on the computer, from other car shows. Not very much on McLaren though, only some on #11R which I think I have posted before. But I can post them if anyone want to see them.

maartenvanthek
03-21-2004, 01:22 PM
that would certainly be appreciated!!

anund
03-21-2004, 03:30 PM
As requested I have uploaded my other pictures. They aren't top notch, some are plain bad, so don't expect too much.
Link removed

mini magic
03-21-2004, 03:39 PM
thanks alot

bjaffee
03-21-2004, 05:50 PM
What is that loop of cable sticking out between the tail pipes for? Towing out of gravel traps?

maartenvanthek
03-22-2004, 10:07 AM
yup, that's mandatory on most race cars, it allows for fast removal in case of a crash

Gustav
03-30-2004, 08:45 PM
On Mr Bryant Meissner:

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=30054&highlight=sthlm

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