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youngvr4
04-11-2004, 04:01 PM
first of all its been proven over and over that a evo-8 is faster than a 300zx because 300zx don't run the 1320 in 13.1 they run more like 13.9 if your a really good driver. second awd doesn't beat rwd most the time, for instance i've seen 2 stock eclipse's run head to head one a fwd and the other rwd and they were neck and neck all 3 times they raced. awd is heavier and towards the high end speed they slow down a little cause all tires are working your loosing ummm......... why the hell can't i remember the word i'm looking for, anyhow awd is faster off the line but top end is rwd usually, also depends on gearing and so forth. saying the supra is unbeatable is pure ignorance umm lets see evo-8 and sti will run em down, with 2 exellent drivers these cars are gonna run neck and neck. from my personal experience the sti will out run the supra in the 1320.
kkiepvvessau
04-11-2004, 09:32 PM
dude the guy above me must not know much about cars. dude the Evo could smoke a 300zx not because of the engine but the drivetrain. 4wd smokes rwd almost anyday (except supra)
4 wheels drive is not always best . at high speed you will fuck up your EVO . that why nissan have 2 version 300zx TT. DRAG Racing with 300zx chances are less boi . By the way you know what is super HICAS on the 300zx
4 wheels drive is not always best . at high speed you will fuck up your EVO . that why nissan have 2 version 300zx TT. DRAG Racing with 300zx chances are less boi . By the way you know what is super HICAS on the 300zx
kkiepvvessau
04-11-2004, 09:59 PM
'''youngvr4'''
STi kill supra stock vs. stock hmmm
you trying to find a diamond in the deep ocean. modify vs. modify i would say you trying to climb up heaven or something. you have proven Evo beaten 300zx LET just say u right.
A eclipse with Rear wheel drive heehehkakak is this Your project car? from what i know eclipse have FWD or AWD(Turbo version). the FWD 140-155 Hp somewhere there , the Civic SI will smoke the heck out of it hakakaka. maybe you trying to said Turbo eclipse VS. N/A turbo heck to heck , i don't know what u thinking. you must be thinking using honda stock to kill mustang
STi kill supra stock vs. stock hmmm
you trying to find a diamond in the deep ocean. modify vs. modify i would say you trying to climb up heaven or something. you have proven Evo beaten 300zx LET just say u right.
A eclipse with Rear wheel drive heehehkakak is this Your project car? from what i know eclipse have FWD or AWD(Turbo version). the FWD 140-155 Hp somewhere there , the Civic SI will smoke the heck out of it hakakaka. maybe you trying to said Turbo eclipse VS. N/A turbo heck to heck , i don't know what u thinking. you must be thinking using honda stock to kill mustang
youngvr4
04-12-2004, 12:22 AM
hey thats my bad, i meant to say awd vs fwd that was purely a typo. but for everything else i'll put up some stats since you think i'm wrong noob.
youngvr4
04-12-2004, 12:35 AM
2004-2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
The facelifted Impreza also comes to USA in STi trim, featuring a highly tuned turbocharged 4 cylinder boxer engine, bigger brakes, stiffer suspension and an aggressive body kit complete with a huge rear wing.
Base price : $30,995 Get a free price quote
Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine AWD
Displacement : 2,500 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 24 mpg
Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent MacPherson strut
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs
Horsepower : 300 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque : 300 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : 7000 rpm
Top speed : 152 mph
0-60 mph : 4.7 sec.
0-¼ mile : 13.2 seconds @ 104.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 114 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.90 g
Curb Weight : 3263 lbs
Overall length : 173.4 in.
Wheelbase : 99.4 in.
Overall Width : 68.1 in.
Height : 56.7 in.
and for the evo-8
2004-2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
The 8th-gen Evo is a hardcore rally-bred sports car based on the restyled Mitsubishi Lancer econocar, but underneath its skin lies a powerful turbocharged engine and an advanced four-wheel-drive system. Detuned for the US market.
Base price : $28,987 Get a free price quote
Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine AWD
Displacement : 1,997 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 26 mpg
Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent multilink
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Vented discs
Horsepower : 271 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque : 273 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline : 7000 rpm
Top speed : 156 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 4.8 sec.
0-¼ mile : 13.1 sec @ 105.1 mph
60-0 braking distance : 110 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.95 g
Curb Weight : 3263 lbs
Overall length : 178.5 in.
Wheelbase : 103.3 in.
Overall Width : 69.7 in.
Height : 57.1 in.
and for the 300zx since they run same times
2003-2004 Nissan 350Z
The new 350Z has hit the roads after years of hype and it turns out to be almost as good as people expected it to be, bar a few minor quirks. Design remains faithful to last concept shown. The Roadster debuts for 2004.
Base price : $26,269
Engine : V6, DOHC, front mid-engine RWD
Displacement : 3,498 cc
Valve : 24 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-speed manual, 5-speed Sportshift
Fuel economy : city - unknown
highway - unknown
Suspension : F - Independent multi-link
R - Independent multi-link
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Vented discs
Horsepower : 287 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque : 274 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline : 6550 rpm
Top speed : 155 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 5.4 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.1 sec @ 101.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 119 ft
Curb Weight : 3188-3322 lbs
Overall length : 169.6 in.
Wheelbase : 104.3 in.
Overall Width : 71.5 in.
Height : 51.9 in.
just in case here is the 300zxtt
General Information
Year
Manufacturer
Model
Trim
Body Type
Base MSRP 1996
Nissan
300ZX
Twin Turbo
Coupe - Targa-Top
-
Dimensions
Curb Weight
Weight Distribution
Length
Height
Width
Front Headroom
Front Legroom
Wheelbase
Wheel Rim Size 3,518 lbs.
55-45
169.5"
48.4"
70.5"
36.8"
43"
96.5"
16"
Engine
Type
Drivetrain
Valvetrain
Cylinders
Cylinder Configuration
Displacement
Horsepower(HP)
Torque(FT-LBs.)
Redline 3.0 Liter Twin Turbocharged Gas
Front Engine / RWD
24-Valve DOHC
6
Vee
2,960 cc
300 @ 6400 RPM
283 @ 3600 RPM
7000 RPM
Transmission
Gear Type
1st Gear Ratio
2nd Gear
3rd
4th
5th
Final Drive
Reverse
Clutch Type 5-Speed with OverDrive
3.214:1
1.925:1
1.302:1
1:1
0.752:1
3.692
3.369:1
Single Dry Disc
Performance
0-60 mph
0-100 mph
1/4 Mile
Top Speed
Gas Mileage 5.7 s
14.2 s @ 101 mph
155 mph
18 MPG City / 24 MPG Highway
and here is your supra tt
General Information
Year
Manufacturer
Model
Trim
Body Type
Base MSRP 1998
Toyota
Supra
Twin Turbo
Liftback - Targa-Top
-
Dimensions
Curb Weight
Weight Distribution
Length
Height
Width
Front Headroom
Front Legroom
Wheelbase
Wheel Rim Size 3,505 lbs.
53-47
177.8"
49.8"
71.3"
37.3"
44"
100.4"
17"
Engine
Type
Drivetrain
Valvetrain
Cylinders
Cylinder Configuration
Displacement
Horsepower(HP)
Torque(FT-LBs.)
Redline 3.0 Liter Twin Turbocharged Gas
Front Engine / RWD
24-valve DOHC
6
In-line
2,997 cc
320 @ 5600 RPM
315 @ 4000 RPM
6800 RPM
Transmission
Gear Type
1st Gear Ratio
2nd Gear
3rd
4th
5th
6th
Final Drive
Reverse
Clutch Type 6-Speed Manual w/ OverDrive
3.827:1
2.36:1
1.685:1
1.312:1
1:1
0.793:1
3.133:1
3.28:1
-
Performance
0-60 mph
0-100 mph
1/4 Mile
Top Speed
Gas Mileage 5.0 s
13.6 s @ 105 mph
167 mph
17 MPG City / 24 MPG Highway
now these are simply average times better drivers get better times but if you put the same driver in each car lets say an better than average driver you'll be looking at these times, each car has ran faster times
modernracer.com (http://www.modernracer.com)
The facelifted Impreza also comes to USA in STi trim, featuring a highly tuned turbocharged 4 cylinder boxer engine, bigger brakes, stiffer suspension and an aggressive body kit complete with a huge rear wing.
Base price : $30,995 Get a free price quote
Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine AWD
Displacement : 2,500 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 24 mpg
Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent MacPherson strut
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs
Horsepower : 300 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque : 300 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline : 7000 rpm
Top speed : 152 mph
0-60 mph : 4.7 sec.
0-¼ mile : 13.2 seconds @ 104.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 114 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.90 g
Curb Weight : 3263 lbs
Overall length : 173.4 in.
Wheelbase : 99.4 in.
Overall Width : 68.1 in.
Height : 56.7 in.
and for the evo-8
2004-2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII
The 8th-gen Evo is a hardcore rally-bred sports car based on the restyled Mitsubishi Lancer econocar, but underneath its skin lies a powerful turbocharged engine and an advanced four-wheel-drive system. Detuned for the US market.
Base price : $28,987 Get a free price quote
Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine AWD
Displacement : 1,997 cc
Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 26 mpg
Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Independent multilink
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Vented discs
Horsepower : 271 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque : 273 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Redline : 7000 rpm
Top speed : 156 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 4.8 sec.
0-¼ mile : 13.1 sec @ 105.1 mph
60-0 braking distance : 110 ft
200 ft skidpad : 0.95 g
Curb Weight : 3263 lbs
Overall length : 178.5 in.
Wheelbase : 103.3 in.
Overall Width : 69.7 in.
Height : 57.1 in.
and for the 300zx since they run same times
2003-2004 Nissan 350Z
The new 350Z has hit the roads after years of hype and it turns out to be almost as good as people expected it to be, bar a few minor quirks. Design remains faithful to last concept shown. The Roadster debuts for 2004.
Base price : $26,269
Engine : V6, DOHC, front mid-engine RWD
Displacement : 3,498 cc
Valve : 24 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-speed manual, 5-speed Sportshift
Fuel economy : city - unknown
highway - unknown
Suspension : F - Independent multi-link
R - Independent multi-link
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Vented discs
Horsepower : 287 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque : 274 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline : 6550 rpm
Top speed : 155 mph(electronically limited)
0-60 mph : 5.4 sec.
0-¼ mile : 14.1 sec @ 101.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 119 ft
Curb Weight : 3188-3322 lbs
Overall length : 169.6 in.
Wheelbase : 104.3 in.
Overall Width : 71.5 in.
Height : 51.9 in.
just in case here is the 300zxtt
General Information
Year
Manufacturer
Model
Trim
Body Type
Base MSRP 1996
Nissan
300ZX
Twin Turbo
Coupe - Targa-Top
-
Dimensions
Curb Weight
Weight Distribution
Length
Height
Width
Front Headroom
Front Legroom
Wheelbase
Wheel Rim Size 3,518 lbs.
55-45
169.5"
48.4"
70.5"
36.8"
43"
96.5"
16"
Engine
Type
Drivetrain
Valvetrain
Cylinders
Cylinder Configuration
Displacement
Horsepower(HP)
Torque(FT-LBs.)
Redline 3.0 Liter Twin Turbocharged Gas
Front Engine / RWD
24-Valve DOHC
6
Vee
2,960 cc
300 @ 6400 RPM
283 @ 3600 RPM
7000 RPM
Transmission
Gear Type
1st Gear Ratio
2nd Gear
3rd
4th
5th
Final Drive
Reverse
Clutch Type 5-Speed with OverDrive
3.214:1
1.925:1
1.302:1
1:1
0.752:1
3.692
3.369:1
Single Dry Disc
Performance
0-60 mph
0-100 mph
1/4 Mile
Top Speed
Gas Mileage 5.7 s
14.2 s @ 101 mph
155 mph
18 MPG City / 24 MPG Highway
and here is your supra tt
General Information
Year
Manufacturer
Model
Trim
Body Type
Base MSRP 1998
Toyota
Supra
Twin Turbo
Liftback - Targa-Top
-
Dimensions
Curb Weight
Weight Distribution
Length
Height
Width
Front Headroom
Front Legroom
Wheelbase
Wheel Rim Size 3,505 lbs.
53-47
177.8"
49.8"
71.3"
37.3"
44"
100.4"
17"
Engine
Type
Drivetrain
Valvetrain
Cylinders
Cylinder Configuration
Displacement
Horsepower(HP)
Torque(FT-LBs.)
Redline 3.0 Liter Twin Turbocharged Gas
Front Engine / RWD
24-valve DOHC
6
In-line
2,997 cc
320 @ 5600 RPM
315 @ 4000 RPM
6800 RPM
Transmission
Gear Type
1st Gear Ratio
2nd Gear
3rd
4th
5th
6th
Final Drive
Reverse
Clutch Type 6-Speed Manual w/ OverDrive
3.827:1
2.36:1
1.685:1
1.312:1
1:1
0.793:1
3.133:1
3.28:1
-
Performance
0-60 mph
0-100 mph
1/4 Mile
Top Speed
Gas Mileage 5.0 s
13.6 s @ 105 mph
167 mph
17 MPG City / 24 MPG Highway
now these are simply average times better drivers get better times but if you put the same driver in each car lets say an better than average driver you'll be looking at these times, each car has ran faster times
modernracer.com (http://www.modernracer.com)
comradegiant
04-12-2004, 01:29 AM
Always the rotary for me. I'll grant that the FD had some reliability issues related to the TT setup, but for all out speed and handling the RX-7 is still on top in Japan, and here. Saw a great video of an SVT Cobra, a twin turboed 92 Mustang, a mark IV Supra TT, and an FD highway battling. FD put them all to shame.
Joseph1082
04-12-2004, 10:19 AM
Wouldn't you have to say the Skyline is the top Japan has to offer?
freakonaleash1187
04-12-2004, 04:33 PM
the skyline is a great car, but personally, i think it is way overrated. i have heard that it is pretty nose-heavy and imo, it doesn't look all that cool. just because it is really really rare here in the states doesnt mean its the best. i guess i am just tired of everybody saying that the skyline is the only thing there is.
comradegiant
04-12-2004, 05:48 PM
The Skyline has a reputation that is well deserved. The R32 in particular was called Godzilla because it was the strongest of all. The RB26 is one of the most versitile engines on the planet, rivaling even the Toyota M and J series and Mazda Wankel engines.
However, I agree with the founder of this thread in not including it. These are all cars that are available, albeit some in limited numbers, in the US. And no, Motorex does not count. Their prices are prohibitive, and are far too much for what you get.
However, I agree with the founder of this thread in not including it. These are all cars that are available, albeit some in limited numbers, in the US. And no, Motorex does not count. Their prices are prohibitive, and are far too much for what you get.
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