who would win 1/4?

pick who would win 1/4mile then post who would come in 2nd 3rd and 4th.

350z
Srt-4
S2000
Rx8

srt4
350z
s2000
rx8


although there is a chance that the s2000 could beat the 350z but im not sure. but i know theres a chance.

The lowest stock time for an SRT-4 is a high 13, lowest for 350Z is 13.69. Lowest for S2000 is a mid 14, RX8 high 14.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX8

The lowest stock time for an SRT-4 is a high 13, lowest for 350Z is 13.69. Lowest for S2000 is a mid 14, RX8 high 14.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX8



all the number we find in mags. are done by the pros, also on tv shows, but there also human and the weather condition could be different there is so many factors of how a car complete a 1/4 mile i've seen times for an evo range from 12.8 sec to 14.5 sec. and different machines depend on different things, i see no reason y a s2000 having a chance of beating a 350z, i've seen much stranger things happen with my own eyes.

Those times are not out of mags. And by prows you mean people who are writers and that get a chance to drive the car. The writers are not pros. The just have the opertunity to drive all that cars.

My times were from actual people and there cars. No magazines. The S2000 is not really that fast in the straight line. But in the corners it dominates. The 350Z is the faster of the bunch. I have seen proof. And i listed there fastest times, has nothing to do with conditions. These ar etaken from all over the world. These are the fastest times. So ya. It is that order. Teh SRT-4 is amazingly quick.

350z
srt-4
s2000
Rx8
i think some people get carried away with the srt-4. i know its a cool sx2.0 and everything and it is quick but its not like a funny car or anything. 350z should be able to beat it. the Rx8 is not all that quick and is definately last. the s2000 is a nice car(though i wouldnt want to own one) and 3rd is where it would be if you did this race over and over again you would find its mode would be 3rd

all you dumbass kids dont have a clue about anything. i HAVE an RX8 and you have no clue what kind of acceleration that car has. it is insane. for one, the rx8 is WAY faster than the 350Z. i would know this beCAUSE i have driven BOTH of the cars. the SRT-4 is a front wheel drive peice of ball bearing turbo shit. when you punch it has WAY to much wheelspin. how much horsepower do you fucking half-wit morons think the rx8 and the other cars have......YEAHHHH thats what i thought, go look it up on the fucking computer you stupid fucking kids. you probably cant tell me shit about the renesis (oh you know the fucking engine in the rx8, you know the fucking rotary!) i think i made my point here you bunch of fucking bald eagles!

Those times are not out of mags. And by prows you mean people who are writers and that get a chance to drive the car. The writers are not pros. The just have the opertunity to drive all that cars.

My times were from actual people and there cars. No magazines. The S2000 is not really that fast in the straight line. But in the corners it dominates. The 350Z is the faster of the bunch. I have seen proof. And i listed there fastest times, has nothing to do with conditions. These ar etaken from all over the world. These are the fastest times. So ya. It is that order. Teh SRT-4 is amazingly quick.


those that you call writers, have their job for a reason and as often they get to drive car i mean really drive a car its safe to call them a pro.

all you dumbass kids dont have a clue about anything. i HAVE an RX8 and you have no clue what kind of acceleration that car has. it is insane. for one, the rx8 is WAY faster than the 350Z. i would know this beCAUSE i have driven BOTH of the cars. the SRT-4 is a front wheel drive peice of ball bearing turbo shit. when you punch it has WAY to much wheelspin. how much horsepower do you fucking half-wit morons think the rx8 and the other cars have......YEAHHHH thats what i thought, go look it up on the fucking computer you stupid fucking kids. you probably cant tell me shit about the renesis (oh you know the fucking engine in the rx8, you know the fucking rotary!) i think i made my point here you bunch of fucking bald eagles!


yea renesis, it mean redesigned genesis.

I just bought an rx8 a few weeks ago, black 6speed loaded, and it is a blast to drive. The engine is so smooth and the handling is awesome, probably the best handling car that I have ever driven (i have owned 2 porsche 911's, a 944, an audi s4 quattro and a bmw z3, not to mention a boatload of others that don't compare to the handling capabilities of the mazda). I also own an infiniti G35 sedan which is close to the handling of the 8 but obviously not as fun to drive. The rx8 feels fast, but in comparison to most other cars to its class it is quite slow. the G35 would take the mazda any day in a quarter mile, but on the twisties the 8 would win hands down.

So why would anyone who knows anything about this car write a stupid thread such as this one?? Everyone knows the rx-8 doesnt match the acceleration of some other cars, but why does that matter? This car was not built for speed or horsepower, it is a great handling, everyday driving, fun to run machine. The 350z is faster, but no where near as fun to drive. the interior of the 8 is so much more refined compared to the cars.

Doug Mcgill, you are a moron. There is no way that you own an rx-8. If you show me a picture, then I will believe you, but unitl that, keep your fucking mouth shut. Yea, some of the posters on this forum are kids who don't appreciate the whole package of a car, but that is no reason to point them out and be such an ass. it may feel faster becasue of its lightweight structure and incredible handling, but numbers don't lie. The 350 could take an 8 on the strip any day, but when it comes down to which one is the better car, the mazda is a true winner. I know you don't own an rx-8, and you probably never will, so step away from the computer and go watch your pubes grow for a while.

what grade are you in Doug........9th because you sure seem to come off as a little poser. Of course the rx-8 has a rotary so what. Look at the published material on the cars.

350z hp 287
tq 274
weight 3188

RX-8 hp 238
tq 159
weight 3053

the numbers state it all. The RX-8 is a little lighter, but not enough to beat the 350z. The RX-8 may feel better than the 350z, but the 350z is faster.

The lowest stock time for an SRT-4 is a high 13, lowest for 350Z is 13.69. Lowest for S2000 is a mid 14, RX8 high 14.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX8


I got 13.69 in my stock Z :bananasmi is that the time you're quoting? :naughty:

Doug McGill you must be looking to get banned cause that is what is goint to happen to you if you continue to try and start shit in these threads.

And yes igor that was the time i ment. Your time, it is quite impressive:D

honestly who cares about 1/4 mile, your not a fucking drag racer in your street car, and if you street race, go slit your own throat to save me time, and out of those four cars, the rx8,350 and s2k are all much better then srt-4, which is no fun to drive, where as the other three rwd 6 spd n/a cars are all awesome, dont put that shitty neon ricer in the same class as the other three

Rx8's only dyno 170RWHP... (my 208Hp 944 dyno's more) Also don't say there is a safty sensors on the front wheels because there is not (Some cars do have that like the E46m3) but the Rx8 doesnt... Ok, My rant on the Rx8 is over...

Hey... have you ever drive to mountain curve???

The RX8 is not for direct course!
The RX8 is construct for real drivers and NOT for childrens who read magazines!

Put that at once in your mind.

Hey this is an interesting thread.

Let me start out by saying that I think that the RX-8 is a wonderful automobile in virtually every aspect. The engine is smooth, the suspension is firm but not harsh, nothing rattles in the interior, the interior design is pleasant, it has wonderful brakes, a great 6-speed transmission, an elegant touch of oversteer when pushing the car in corners, and, (it took me a while to get used to this) a great sound! And most of all, I loved those rear doors!! After driving the car for a while, it was very difficult to get back into a regular two door car.

My only complaints with the car were the slow-reacting navigational system (it takes less time to load Photoshop 7 on a Pentium 300). Also there was some interior trim that was a little cheap, I thought. Some strange rubber-type material on the seats between the leather seemed out of place. Most of the interior was great though.

I drove the more powerful-engined version RX-8 for a total of 550 kms last weekend. (In Europe there are two engines available - the 192HP and the 231HP version.) The latter engine is rated a little higher in North America due to different ways of calculating horsepower, but it's identical to the 238HP car in N. America. The car I drove was a press car provided by Mazda Germany.

My driving experience was 100% positive, HOWEVER the car never really felt like it had over 230hp. Subjectively it felt more like a 200HP engine in a 1400kg car. The 235km/h top speed in a car with low coefficient of drag and a relatively small frontal area, confirms Mazda's slightly optimistc horsepower figures. Having said that, I would take this engine over other engines rated at 230HP, simply because it's soooo smooth, free of vibration and rev-happy. (BTW, the performance in any aspects reminded me of my ex 944 S2).

So to sum things up, I'd say that even though it's not a hotrod, and the 231 horses under the hood may be of the "small" variety, I'd still take it just because everything else in the car harmonizes so nicely. There's more to GT and sports cars than just horsepower and accelleration. Especially over here in Europe.

As for the quickest accellerating of the bunch (not that it matters): Id have to go with the 350Z, followed by the S2000 and the RX-8. I'm not familiar with the SRT, cause we don't have it here in Europe. I drove the S2000 a year ago (only for one afternoon) and didn't care much for the brakes (they got hot very quickly - especially the rear brakes), the transmission didn't take too kindly to powershifting, and the variable-rate steering took some getting used to.

Back to the RX-8: I cant wait for Mazda to introduce the RX-8 Turbo. Assuming they do (i have no idea if they plan to), it would put an end to any accelleration discussions.

Well I'm currently at day 4 of 5 days of testing the 350Z. The 350 Z is definately a quicker accellerating car. But the Nissan's V-6 lacks the smoothness of the rotary. Just like the RX-8, the 350Z has great brakes, direct steering and a great sounding exhaust system. I've noticed that the Nissan is more of an attention grabber in terms of looks. However, if I had to go out and buy one of these two cars tomorrow, I'd grab the RX-8 cause I wouldn't want to live without those innovative rear doors and two extra seats.

i think it would go down lie this
1st- 350z
2nd-s2000
3rd-srt-4
4th- the rx8

Who ever thinks that the rx8 is soooo fast is sooo wrong. I mean sure you have a right to be upset because you just got ripped off I mean you just wasted your money. I dont car what kind of acceleration you think that this car has because it dosnt. The 350z will whore this car on any given day just like the s2000 as well. As far as the srt-4 goes for about $20,000 it is well worth its money. Every turbo front wheel drive car has alot of wheel spin but the driver can learn to control that. Trust me I would know because I own one that will whore any of these cars. So until you drive a fwd boosted car you dont need to tell anyone about wheel spin

I doubt they'll release a turbocahrged 8, simply for the fact that turbo = no reliability when it comes to rotaries. That's the simple hard truth - look at what the FD 7 did to the stigma of the rotary. Most laymen think that its some novelty engine that sucks a lot of gas and breaks a lot. Well, they wouldn't be that far off in that assumption.

Now, if they came out with an aggressively styled, 4th generation RX-7, complete with a nice torubocharger, higher displacement engine (say...1.5 liters) pushing around..oh, I dunno, 320 rwhp, and handling that would put the FD to shame, THAT would be awesome. But It will never happen :(

Hey... have you ever drive to mountain curve???

The RX8 is not for direct course!
The RX8 is construct for real drivers and NOT for childrens who read magazines!

Put that at once in your mind.




my comments is not for those that read a magazine and then pertend they know it all. i'm merely saying: whats so terrible about reading a magazine, from my economical stand point thats all I have. i've driven in the mountains of PA in my grand am i'm sure that an rx8 is more fun to drive but all i have is a grand am. well maybe i just dont belong here. ohhh :whine: lol

yeah, unfortunately i feel the nissan would win this one. I'm a HUGE fan of the rotary, but I believe the RX-8 still needs some work. The car is definetly not made for the drag strip, but is very well suited for autocross. even then, the s2000 would be a very very tough competitor in that situation. The RX-8 is a great car either way, but like i said, it still needs some work.

350-z
rx-8
s2000
srt-4

I only say srt-4 last because i've seen a couple of them do the 1/4 and they peel way too much. But i assume if you are a good "off the start" racer it would be third.

350-z
rx-8
s2000
srt-4

I only say srt-4 last because i've seen a couple of them do the 1/4 and they peel way too much. But i assume if you are a good "off the start" racer it would be third.


in the strait away i think these 4 are close enough to say itll come down to the driver, handles is a different story and since this thread has nothing to do with handles i will not speak on that, but itll be close in a strait away.

now dont get me wrong, I hate neons, and the SRT-4 is just a Neon on sterroids. But the SRT-4 is VERY fast, and YES it can be compared to these cars easily.

The RX-8 is overrated, yes it is a sporty car, quite quick but the styling is just disgusting IMO and honestly it isnt that fast at all. Everyone makes this huge deal about rotaries and yet it doesnt step away from the pack. If I were Mazda, I woldve pumped more power out of the car to make the car actally fast.

honestly who cares about 1/4 mile, your not a fucking drag racer in your street car, and if you street race, go slit your own throat to save me time, and out of those four cars, the rx8,350 and s2k are all much better then srt-4, which is no fun to drive, where as the other three rwd 6 spd n/a cars are all awesome, dont put that shitty neon ricer in the same class as the other three

I happen to agree. I bought my RX-8 to DRIVE not to drag race. And the price I paid for the RX-8 (31,000 dollars) this car is PLENTY fast for me and it handles like a CHAMP!

P.S.; I love it when stupid M-Fers spend 40,000 dollars to "race kit" their Honda Civics...just to get dusted by a stock car. Plus can they take a sharp curve at 50 mph in second gear??? Probably not. LATE!

now dont get me wrong, I hate neons, and the SRT-4 is just a Neon on sterroids. But the SRT-4 is VERY fast, and YES it can be compared to these cars easily.

The RX-8 is overrated, yes it is a sporty car, quite quick but the styling is just disgusting IMO and honestly it isnt that fast at all. Everyone makes this huge deal about rotaries and yet it doesnt step away from the pack. If I were Mazda, I woldve pumped more power out of the car to make the car actally fast.

Dude...are you serious?? You actually bought a Neon SRT? I would never admit to owning a Plymouth and saying it's comparable to a RX-8. Your interior is weak...the car cannot handle like the Mazda and YES it's STILL a NEON. Them NEONS remind me of the Hyundai Excels from the early ninetys. EVERYBODY had one...and you got a sport version...hahahaha!

dude, your high school is calling, they want their diploma back. Read it again, I never ONCE in that post said i own an SRT-4. On the contrary I said I hate neons. :screwy:

I happen to agree. I bought my RX-8 to DRIVE not to drag race. And the price I paid for the RX-8 (31,000 dollars) this car is PLENTY fast for me and it handles like a CHAMP!

P.S.; I love it when stupid M-Fers spend 40,000 dollars to "race kit" their Honda Civics...just to get dusted by a stock car. Plus can they take a sharp curve at 50 mph in second gear??? Probably not. LATE!


ok i dont think you know what you are talking about, any v-tec engine can be modded with i'll say $15 grand and it'll out run 80% of all the worlds stock cars.

I happen to agree. I bought my RX-8 to DRIVE not to drag race. And the price I paid for the RX-8 (31,000 dollars) this car is PLENTY fast for me and it handles like a CHAMP!

P.S.; I love it when stupid M-Fers spend 40,000 dollars to "race kit" their Honda Civics...just to get dusted by a stock car. Plus can they take a sharp curve at 50 mph in second gear??? Probably not. LATE!

I actually personally know a guy that has put approx. 25Gs into his Civic. He runs 24lbs of boost and on the dyno he pulled out 480hp. In the quarter he runs mid-to-low 12s... tell me a stock car that can do 12s out of the box... Im sure there are a few.. but not under 100Gs thats for sure.

I personally dont believe you have an RX8, you sound like a 16 year old with nothing better to do than BS half the world that doesnt give two shits about what you drive.

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

I have to say the 350Z would probably win. Although it would deffinately come down to the driver. Both the 350Z and the SRT-4 are rated at 14.0 from the factory. I hate neons, but the SRT-4's are fast as hell. I watched one pull a 13.8 pretty much stock with only better tires and a couple hundred bucks put into it in mods. And they are an AWD car by the way not Front Wheel Drive. But I do agree that all of the other cars are in a different class than the peon, uhh I mean neon. If I were to buy one, it would deffinately be the nissan.

Oh and by the way, if you drop 25k into a car and it can only pull 12's, thats pretty pathetic. Props to Igor on that 13.69 STOCK. If your gonna drop that kind of money in a car why not just get a real car.

uhhh he made his car as an all around racecar, but thanx for coming out :naughty:

He also has a sick soundsystem in it to now that i think about it. But either way, the car cost him about the same a an RSX type-S or whatever and is way faster and IMO a lot cooler

Oh and by the way, if you drop 25k into a car and it can only pull 12's, thats pretty pathetic. Props to Igor on that 13.69 STOCK. If your gonna drop that kind of money in a car why not just get a real car.


his point was that to find a car that can run low 12's is gonna cost you more the let's say $32grand, 25grand for mods and 7grand for a vtec civic. a real car thats a matter of opinion. i'd much rather have a civic for tunning verses any mustang. just my OPINION of course.

uhhh he made his car as an all around racecar, but thanx for coming out :naughty:

He also has a sick soundsystem in it to now that i think about it. But either way, the car cost him about the same a an RSX type-S or whatever and is way faster and IMO a lot cooler

i like sickning fast econo cars

yea, I would be a lot more proud to say I have a 12 second civic that I put a lot of time into, than to buy a car that is fast. If you buy a Ferarri, all that shows is that you have money, if you can make a Civic as fast as a Ferarri, now THAT is something. Plus Im 18, and cant afford to buy a 12 second stock car... while if you work on a car over the years, 12s are attainable.

NB: Im using a Civic as an example cuz they're slow... feel free to re-read that paragraph replacing the word 'Civic' with any cheap non-sports car you wish.

yea, I would be a lot more proud to say I have a 12 second civic that I put a lot of time into, than to buy a car that is fast. If you buy a Ferarri, all that shows is that you have money, if you can make a Civic as fast as a Ferarri, now THAT is something. Plus Im 18, and cant afford to buy a 12 second stock car... while if you work on a car over the years, 12s are attainable.

NB: Im using a Civic as an example cuz they're slow... feel free to re-read that paragraph replacing the word 'Civic' with any cheap non-sports car you wish.


like an 02 4banger grand am?

yea thats perfect... keep it looking really stock and make it a sleeper... the way I look at it, rust is just a cheap form of weight reduction :iceslolan

hehe my MX3 is about to go under the knife. By mid-august, she will be running mid 14s and it will look completely stock. Its gonna be beautiful :lol: Can you say bye-bye VR6? :smokin:

You guys thought the 350z was faster in the 1320? I looked in two sources (Road and Track and Car and Driver) both said the S2000 was faster, although not by much.

yea thats perfect... keep it looking really stock and make it a sleeper... the way I look at it, rust is just a cheap form of weight reduction :iceslolan

hehe my MX3 is about to go under the knife. By mid-august, she will be running mid 14s and it will look completely stock. Its gonna be beautiful :lol: Can you say bye-bye VR6? :smokin:



im biggggg on sleepers, give me something like a 98 altima (5speed), swop out the ka24 for a sr20det, keep the factory ride height, stock rims on new grippier rubber. and watch my tail lights get smaller. of course im dreaming though

I actually personally know a guy that has put approx. 25Gs into his Civic. He runs 24lbs of boost and on the dyno he pulled out 480hp. In the quarter he runs mid-to-low 12s... tell me a stock car that can do 12s out of the box... Im sure there are a few.. but not under 100Gs thats for sure.

I personally dont believe you have an RX8, you sound like a 16 year old with nothing better to do than BS half the world that doesnt give two shits about what you drive.

My man?? I am damn near 40...not 16. And you sound JUST like those people that can't beleive I drive a RX-8 (even though they ACTUALLY see me driving it). But whatever...I have nothing to prove. Based on the last quote...it's all BUENO.

p.s. I could not see myself pouring 25 G into a civic. Maybe that's my age talking, or I am not a PEPSI generation kid... Peace everyone!

Dude, ur 40 (ish). Then you were around in the begining for the rotary (at least in the US market). You where around when the R100 was still prowling the streets. That gives you more of a right to drive one than any 16 year old.
So, what do you think of your RX?

350z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

Simple as that.

Dude, ur 40 (ish). Then you were around in the begining for the rotary (at least in the US market). You where around when the R100 was still prowling the streets. That gives you more of a right to drive one than any 16 year old.
So, what do you think of your RX?

Dontcha love these young whippa snapeers? LOL...anyway I love my RX-8. This car handles like no tommorow!!! I feel like when I am taking a city turn at 45-50 MPH I feel like the car could never lose control. Other cars have come close to this handling but the RX-8 is the best I've driven.

Luv the car...yes I am 39...

You guys don't know squat about rotary drag racing.
Jesus Padilla runs mid 9's in his 85 GSL 3 rotor beast. Designed to run in the 2 litre class he whopped ASS all over any Acura, Honda or Neon.

They banned him from running (I guess 3 rotors is a tad too much for those 4 bangers).

PLUS- It was all NA!!! No turbo, no S/C, NO JUICE. http://www.battleoftheimports.com/battleracers/jesuspadilla.shtml

Shit- Give me 25k to blow on a project car and I would have one bad 1st gen pulling 10's no prob. N/A to boot. AND the sucker would handle like a sled on rails to boot.

Neons. Sheesh.

thats besides the point. this poll is to find out which car is better overall. Im sure for every fast rotary, there is a faster SRT-4, 350Z, or S2000. The thread is supposed to be a analytical discussion, discussing the stong and weak points of the above cars.

Looks like the thread was originally intended to see which car (stock) boasts faster 1/4 mile times. In which case- just cut'n'paste R&T or Car & Driver stats for your answer. Some of the drag queens were boasting about modded cars for drag racing- my point is a modded rotary can best damn near anything N/A!!

Meh- I hate drag racing. None of the vehicles listed (with the exception of maybe the Neon) were designed with straight line times in mind. These are touring/sports cars. If the question is which is the better overall car then I would choose the 350Z. Tried and true engineering and Nissan racing heritage. Closely followed by the s2000, thirdly the RX-8 and lastly the Neon.

The RX-8 renesis powerplant is too new an adaption to effectively rate. In a few years (if they continue development) it may surpass the 350Z.

Honda S2000 14.1 @ 99.2mph
Dodge SRT-4 14.2 @ 101.5mph
Nissan 350Z Roadster Touring 14.3 @ 99.5mph
Nissan 350Z Track 14.4 @ 99.7mph
Mazda RX-8 14.5 @ 95.6mph

These numbers are from Road & Track's Road Test Summary August '04 (pg.132-133)

As you can tell the 1/4 Times only differ 1/10 of a sec between each car...

UnlimitedEK9

350Z
SRT-4
S2000
RX-8

I have to say the 350Z would probably win. Although it would deffinately come down to the driver. Both the 350Z and the SRT-4 are rated at 14.0 from the factory. I hate neons, but the SRT-4's are fast as hell. I watched one pull a 13.8 pretty much stock with only better tires and a couple hundred bucks put into it in mods. And they are an AWD car by the way not Front Wheel Drive. But I do agree that all of the other cars are in a different class than the peon, uhh I mean neon. If I were to buy one, it would deffinately be the nissan.


I must say this kid is fully retarded. Go to the Dodge website, go to NEONS... click on srt-4 and look at drivetrain stats. It's FWD unlike the earlier amazing turbo-4 DSMs of our time.

Btw... quarter mile is for kids who cant drive

Relax dude. No need to be talkin shit. I was just misinformed about the srt-4 being awd. I was told it was by a friend who OWNS a dodge dealarship, so I thought the info was reliable. But apparently not, it is front wheel drive.

Honda S2000 14.1 @ 99.2mph
Dodge SRT-4 14.2 @ 101.5mph
Nissan 350Z Roadster Touring 14.3 @ 99.5mph
Nissan 350Z Track 14.4 @ 99.7mph
Mazda RX-8 14.5 @ 95.6mph

These numbers are from Road & Track's Road Test Summary August '04 (pg.132-133)

As you can tell the 1/4 Times only differ 1/10 of a sec between each car...

UnlimitedEK9

I'd like to say that this thread and indeed the entire RX-8 section is missing the most important difference about this car. But first let me highlight what seems to be agreed on as this cars advantages.

high revving smoth rotory
weight and balance
steering & cornering
style

Put all those things, and the 1/4 stats from above together and add the fact that four adults can get in and out and ride comortably makes this car an absolute winner.

In my case last weekend I had 3 adults and an aft facing baby seat in my RX8 and the front seats were not pushed forward to accomodate.

This car shouldn't even be compared to the 2 seaters but it is and I would have to say that all these competitors should be shaking in the driving boots as this is Mazda's first year and you know that a power upgrade is coming.

PS RX8 beat all these cars at Phoenix Sport Touring 200 at Phoenix International Raceway in April.

Sorry SRT-4 I didn't mention that you have a back seat and four doors but that's because it shouldn't be comapred either as it's a family sedan and it's turbo'd. If it takes a turbo to get you here then you'll be left when we all fit turbos to our naturally aspirated engines, won't you?

yes, but the point is the STOCK cars... you could also crank up the boost on an SRT-4 so.. it would still b up there

yes, but the point is the STOCK cars... you could also crank up the boost on an SRT-4 so.. it would still b up there

Pissing match... You got stats on what hp you would gain by cranking the boost? It won't be that much. Face it the SRT-4 has 230 hp with a turbo the rest of these cars have more than that without a turbo.

i personally know a guy whith an SRT-4 and all he did was bought a boost controller to crank up his boost a bit. Running on street tires and CAI, he does low 13s... with more boost he could easily be in the 12s. Not saying what impossible that the other cars could be faster. The most likely could, but you have to be fair and see that the Neon can be boosted up too.

i personally know a guy whith an SRT-4 and all he did was bought a boost controller to crank up his boost a bit. Running on street tires and CAI, he does low 13s... with more boost he could easily be in the 12s. Not saying what impossible that the other cars could be faster. The most likely could, but you have to be fair and see that the Neon can be boosted up too.

I do get it. And if you turbo these other cars then you can boost them too... checkmate! LOL

no, because to be FAIR... you spend equal amounts of money... while you're blowing money beefing up the internals of the other cars, the SRT-4 can spend more time boosting...

no, because to be FAIR... you spend equal amounts of money... while you're blowing money beefing up the internals of the other cars, the SRT-4 can spend more time boosting...

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

Fact one: these cars have more hp than the SRT-4 without turbos and they're widley accepted as sports cars.

Fact two: the SRT-4 is a family sedan.

My point from the begining is that the SRT-4 does not belong in this comparison.

actually it would go 350 SRT-4 s2000 then RX-8