who would win 1/4?

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

Fact one: these cars have more hp than the SRT-4 without turbos and they're widley accepted as sports cars.

Fact two: the SRT-4 is a family sedan.

My point from the begining is that the SRT-4 does not belong in this comparison.

Laughing Out Loud at SRT-4...Family sedan.

Right-on!

Rx8's only dyno 170RWHP... (my 208Hp 944 dyno's more) Also don't say there is a safty sensors on the front wheels because there is not (Some cars do have that like the E46m3) but the Rx8 doesnt... Ok, My rant on the Rx8 is over...
Uhhhh...the RX8 DOES have sensors on the front wheels....They bypassed them in SCC mag and got better dyno results. So Ha! :)

350z
srt4
rx8
s2000

if the s2 is an 04, then switch s2 and rx8.

cant wait for the 8 turbo...

good call on the rx8 turbo. I hear the turbo is going to be electronicly controled to keep a decent fuel economy, puls bump it to about 300 bhp (i think).

okay i'm opening this up again because i just got into AF this month and this whole thread went to shit really fast...... first of all, anyone who said the 350z was the fastest car, thank you. anyone who tries to argue that is stupid and u deserve nothing more than to have your license taken for the remainder of your FREAKING LIFE! i had to argue with myself for the rest, lol. the rx8 has 238 crank power, the s2000 has 240 crank power, and the neon has 225 WHEEL power, front wheel drive or not, it's fucking quick! i used to have a '95 240sx...i raced a stock s2000 while my nissan was stock and i stayed right with the guy. s2000s are nice ass cars but only worth a damn modded(at least a v-tec controller). that damn redline is too far back in stock trim! v-tec hits at like what, 6 grand...? i'm already in second gear by then lol.. the only car of the four i have yet to ride or drive is the 8. but we all know it's faster than the s2000, slower than the neon, and slower than the 350z..... so the order would be (and the people who already know this...GOOD, YOU SHOULD KNOW, lol..) : 350z, srt-4, rx-8, s2000

i would almost bet my car on it...

:rofl: Where were you all this time??? that last post almost brings a tear to my eye.. it was beautiful :iceslolan

its been along time sence ive been back to this thread. i just wanted to say that my friend has an 350z and about 6weeks ago he was running it at the track and he raced a 02' s2000 and he launched on him hella hard so the s2000 didnt have a chance.
but he asked the s2000 guy if he wanted to leave together.
so we went on main street and there was 2 people in each car.
we raced from a roll so there was no excuses.
i yelled 1....2....3! and they both floored it at 20mph in 1st. it was about the same till the about 50mph we started pulling on the 2000
they shut it down at 85(not quite full 1/4) and we won by a good 2cars.

S2000's only make their power in the high-range... with an inexperienced driving in an S2000, Ill bet I could take him in my MX3 :/ THe S2000 is a sweet car if you can keep the RPMs up.

Dont you think we've beaten this one to death. Also, none of these cars are real quarter mile specialists. Most of them are ment to handle the curves and if you'll check the numbers, they seem to deliver the goods.

Dont you think we've beaten this one to death. Also, none of these cars are real quarter mile specialists. Most of them are ment to handle the curves and if you'll check the numbers, they seem to deliver the goods.

I have to agree with you 100%!

Nice try but it's not about the money. If that were true everybody would beefing up civics and talons.

THEY DO!!! That's what's sad about it! :screwy: :disappoin :loser: :sly:

here are some comparisons.....



http://www.dragtimes.com/compare2.php?make1=29&model1=828&make2=18&model2=315&make3=35&model3=540&make4=13&model4=227



looks like the modd'd Neon's are pretty quick, wit the 350Z's not far behind.... I'm not counting the S2000 dragster than ran in the 8's.... :)

Hey Doug My name is Doug too the rx8 is awsome who cares what a magazine says have you seen a 350z beat one no they arent as fast as a rx8 and car your 350z carry 4 adults and rev forever no. go Dougs yea I am a high school kid but know a lot like honda suck

Hey Doug My name is Doug too the rx8 is awsome who cares what a magazine says have you seen a 350z beat one no they arent as fast as a rx8 and car your 350z carry 4 adults and rev forever no. go Dougs yea I am a high school kid but know a lot like honda suck
:werd:

wait, actually, :gay: :banhim:

man a rx8 will not win against a 350z in the quarter, unless the z driver is shitty.

Think were beating a dead horse here or what?

350z
s2000
srt4
rx8

The RX8 needs a an S/C for torque. It is not very impressive as far as 1/4 mile speed. It is however a very good handling balanced car. I have also a MX6 LS and it makes it seem like a Buick in the handling department. It might hang with my modded Automatic 97 Mustang GT ( Gears, shiftkit, no cats, Pulleys) but I doubt. My GT ran a 14.7. While test driving the RX8 6 spd. I kept thinking that the GT would out run it. The dealer that I drove it at told me a that a turbo version from Mazda speed is in the works. Sunflower Mazda in KS, the dealer, has experimented with a ProCharger S/C (The Procharger Co. is based in KS) and has almost doubled the power. They said that since the wankel is almost the same in design like an S/C it works in harmony. The lowend is much better with more torque and is fast as lightning. Look for a ProCharger coming out with an off the shelf S/c setup for the RX8.

Even my celica GTS can beat the RX8 except mine is upgraded.
Mazda never had the technology to produce the rotary for the rx7's now that the technology is better they should be much more adaptable. However its odd that they did not make a larger engine, even Chris Redo Rado? however you spell it he says there no substitution for cubic inches even in the four cylinder class and I think the same applies to the rotary. It has come a long way since it was developed, in the 1930's I think and is a very promising design but mazda has done nothing but capitalize from it and no market in performance has been evaluated. So I think they should give it more balls and stop braggin about it being a rotary. Who cares unless it has power! They do race them in F1 indy cars I think but so what that technology is like government secrets that will anly be released when they are rendered useless!!

i test drove the rx8 last year and it reminded me of my friends civic si. like eri13 said, "it needs more balls.

all you dumbass kids dont have a clue about anything. i HAVE an RX8 and you have no clue what kind of acceleration that car has. it is insane. for one, the rx8 is WAY faster than the 350Z. i would know this beCAUSE i have driven BOTH of the cars. the SRT-4 is a front wheel drive peice of ball bearing turbo shit. when you punch it has WAY to much wheelspin. how much horsepower do you fucking half-wit morons think the rx8 and the other cars have......YEAHHHH thats what i thought, go look it up on the fucking computer you stupid fucking kids. you probably cant tell me shit about the renesis (oh you know the fucking engine in the rx8, you know the fucking rotary!) i think i made my point here you bunch of fucking bald eagles!
Where you the red rx-8 I put buslengths on the highway a couple of weeks ago in my neon I have it on video too haha.

:loser: wow, what's the resale on your neon? :lol:

Even my celica GTS can beat the RX8 except mine is upgraded.
Mazda never had the technology to produce the rotary for the rx7's now that the technology is better they should be much more adaptable. However its odd that they did not make a larger engine, even Chris Redo Rado? however you spell it he says there no substitution for cubic inches even in the four cylinder class and I think the same applies to the rotary. It has come a long way since it was developed, in the 1930's I think and is a very promising design but mazda has done nothing but capitalize from it and no market in performance has been evaluated. So I think they should give it more balls and stop braggin about it being a rotary. Who cares unless it has power! They do race them in F1 indy cars I think but so what that technology is like government secrets that will anly be released when they are rendered useless!!
you obviously know nothing about the rotary engine. The rx8 can put close to 240 at the wheels with intake, exhaust and ecu tuning, judge ito did it. what people dont realize is that the renesis is crazy detuned so that it will pass emissions and fuel economy regulations, thats why its low on power.
everyone knows a srt4 could beat a rx8 going straight. old news.

also about the larger engine, i guess you have never heard of the 20b or 26b?

350z
S2000
RX-8
SRT-4

I've seen an S2000 murder an SRT-4 with my own eyes.

well obvously the srt-4 driver sucked ass, because it IS (or at least should be) faster than s2k in the quarter. This is fact, not opinion.

well obvously the srt-4 driver sucked ass, because it IS (or at least should be) faster than s2k in the quarter. This is fact, not opinion.
AGREED!
srt-4
350z
s2000
rx8
simple as that

SRT-4 and 350Z are kind of tied for number 1. I've seen SRT-4s run as fast as mid 13s stock and I've seen 350Zs do the same. Now S2000s will run low to flat 14s all day. And then RX-8s will come in last with mid to high 14 second times. Alot of people in here that own RX-8s just don't want to accept that they bought a slow car. So, my list:

1. SRT-4/350z
2. S2000
3. RX-8

rx-8 isnt slow. its just not blazingly fast. besides, you can be fast in more than one direction than just straight.

Well, he's asking about 1/4 mile times...and the RX-8 is slow in a straight line.

RX-8 is not intend for straight road racing...
How many times do you guys need to ask? Rotaries are more handling based...

well the turbo rotaries have had sucess with drag racing, theres one guy in the mid 9s on street tires 9 (its a 3rd gen). quite honestly the chassis is underpowered but mainly because the renesis had to be detuned.

Die, Thread, Die!!!!!!!!!!!

has anyone here seen the series from australia called high octane ? its up to like the 4th or 5th movie now, anywayz, on the most recent one, they dragged a 350z and a rx8, sad to say, the 8 got its butt kicked in the end, but put up one hell of a fight.

Umm.. dont waste your money. Go find a evo or sti if you want speed.

if I'm driving, I pick the S2000 to win. all cars stock.

For all those cars you are paying far to much for what they do.
Better off buying a RX7 for less than half the price and putting the rest into the car. You end up with a better car that excells in every aspect over those with one exception of being a bit older.

But unfortunatly the RX8 is not really well suited to any car catagory. Its not a true sports car, its not a true 4 door, its not a person carrier. It is a mish mashof them all and it has to sacrifice something to make it what it is.

I ran an SRT4 on the highway the other day. Dead Heat. I have a 97GT with no cats 3.73 gears U/D pulleys and that is about it. I was astonished. I though I'd get walked. He was not going easy either or they are capable of 180mph. You know because since I have the slowest Mustang all the fast 4 banger crowd want a piece of me because of its crappy rep. I am sure he wanted to bury me. I was at 130 when we shut off starting at about 70 the got into traffic. They are fast but I believe a car that has a range of 10000 r's could be modded to be very fast. I think they are going to be a favorite to mod eventually. I think when you have that much to work with as much of a base power to weight ratio they have it could be fun.

For all those cars you are paying far to much for what they do.
Better off buying a RX7 for less than half the price and putting the rest into the car. You end up with a better car that excells in every aspect over those with one exception of being a bit older.

But unfortunatly the RX8 is not really well suited to any car catagory. Its not a true sports car, its not a true 4 door, its not a person carrier. It is a mish mashof them all and it has to sacrifice something to make it what it is.

You obviously don't own or drive an RX8. Your comparisons are wrong and pointless. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder over this car. And you don't need to. This is not the successor to the RX7. It is it's own sports car. It has the performance of the two seat crowd and a better ride and gives me the ability to carry 4 people (by the way sit in the back of any other sports car then sit in this one and tell me it it's not a person carrier). In every comparison I've ever read the authors pick this car over the others for it's overall abilities. It has the modern technological advances of 8 airbags, traction control, dynamic stability control, not to mention 4 years of free maintenance and looks that kill.

Now tell me why the Hell I would spend even half as much and get less than half in return.

BTW, can somebody, anybody show me an article written by the main stream magazines (Car and Driver, Road and Track, Motor Trend etc...) that has picked any other car as the winner of the comparison? I may be wrong because I haven't been reading anything lately, Ive been out driving and loving this car.

he's saying if you want all out performance from a rotary car you want to save money and buy a rx-7.

since this thread is about 1/4 performance

You obviously don't own or drive an RX8. Your comparisons are wrong and pointless. Sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder over this car. And you don't need to. This is not the successor to the RX7. It is it's own sports car. It has the performance of the two seat crowd and a better ride and gives me the ability to carry 4 people (by the way sit in the back of any other sports car then sit in this one and tell me it it's not a person carrier). In every comparison I've ever read the authors pick this car over the others for it's overall abilities. It has the modern technological advances of 8 airbags, traction control, dynamic stability control, not to mention 4 years of free maintenance and looks that kill.

Now tell me why the Hell I would spend even half as much and get less than half in return.


Hey bud, i got no chip on my shoulder. I build rotary cars for people. I dont like the car cause it is poorly designed. I have a friend who helped in the inital design of the apperance and some othere aspects of the car and im not impressed with it.
I will never sit in the rear seats of a sports car , reason for that is a real sports car dosent have rear seats :P

From the start the RX8 was a dissapointment. Lower power output that was claimed. Tuning of the motor didnt seem to yeaild much more power, slugging issues, interior moisture issues, flooding (still LMAO), lean running, cat converter problems.

O and incase you are thinking i just plane dont like it, well that is true. My opinions are based on the fact that i bought one new as soon as it was at the dealer. I even had if for about a year but sold it, couldent stand it anymore.

Mazda designed the car to appeal to a wide varitie of people and that killed the car. And as for telling me my personal opinions are pointless and such, get a grip buddy. I have been around rotaries my hole life. I know what works and what dosent. The car is already hurting in sales and no one wants it anymore. Its turning into the next Celica LOL.

Up side of that is that the prices will get lower and lower.

Authors pics, LMFAO, hey did you ever notice that those are one persons personal opinons printed into a magazien that gets the majority of its funding advertising for such companies as Mazda ??? Makes you think dont it.

Anyways, to find 1/4 mile performance in a Mazda rotary lineup you have to go a back in the lineup.

the rx-8 is basically a placeholder.

because ford was afraid the rotary would have them losing tons of money (lessons learned from the FD3s), they told mazda they couldnt build an all out sports car, so they constructed someting mild in comparison to the rx-7. I'm sure if circumstances would allow, we'd have a fast(er) rotary car on our hands now.

Im almost done a build up on one right now for a good customer. WAY to much money went into this car, almost everything had to be custom built. But this thing will be making BIG numbers once its broken in and the big boost has been added.
Now if we take this RX8 im almost done building and use it against 99% of whats on the road today it will DESTROY it, no question about that. :D

I will post pics as soon as the tunning is done and i have permission by the owner.

yay!

your the man as always fdtt

Hey bud, i got no chip on my shoulder. I build rotary cars for people. I dont like the car cause it is poorly designed. I have a friend who helped in the inital design of the apperance and some othere aspects of the car and im not impressed with it.
I will never sit in the rear seats of a sports car , reason for that is a real sports car dosent have rear seats :P

From the start the RX8 was a dissapointment. Lower power output that was claimed. Tuning of the motor didnt seem to yeaild much more power, slugging issues, interior moisture issues, flooding (still LMAO), lean running, cat converter problems.

O and incase you are thinking i just plane dont like it, well that is true. My opinions are based on the fact that i bought one new as soon as it was at the dealer. I even had if for about a year but sold it, couldent stand it anymore.

Mazda designed the car to appeal to a wide varitie of people and that killed the car. And as for telling me my personal opinions are pointless and such, get a grip buddy. I have been around rotaries my hole life. I know what works and what dosent. The car is already hurting in sales and no one wants it anymore. Its turning into the next Celica LOL.

Up side of that is that the prices will get lower and lower.

Authors pics, LMFAO, hey did you ever notice that those are one persons personal opinons printed into a magazien that gets the majority of its funding advertising for such companies as Mazda ??? Makes you think dont it.

Anyways, to find 1/4 mile performance in a Mazda rotary lineup you have to go a back in the lineup.

You still don't get it. The car was picked in every comparison by more than one publication. Are you saying that all the other car manufacturers didn't have enough bribe money to win the comparison. You're an idiot! You do have a chip. You don't get around much either. I recently rode in a 450hp Porche with a back seat. I garrantee it would kick your ass in anthing you've ever built or ever will. The point is this car does have 238hp and does handle well and does look better than anything out there including that tired-ass design of the RX7.

See ya... this thread is dead.

whoa man.... the rx7 is a classic design nowhere near dated (in reference to the fd)

LMAO buddie think what you like. Your car is slow, and is plegued with design problems. I know, i work on them. There fun cars to drive but nothing to brag about.

Your about as smart as a thumb tac now arent you. I guarantee you have seen my motors and not even know it. But i dont perticularly care.

As for i dont get aroudn much comment, i supose you need to have a look around my shop then. Multiple porsches, NSX's, 510's, 240, 260, 280, 300ZX, tons of RX7's, RX3's, WRX, VW ect ect. Porsches are not 4 seaters, there 2+2's. There seats were designed for people with no legs. I have 944's, they have 4 seats in them but there not even seats. You have 4 doors pal. Full sized seats. Its not a sports car. And yes, Mazda does have enough money to buy out editors opinions. There dieing off so they need to get in the spotlite somehow.

As for a 450hp porsche owngin every car i have built. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH my daily driver has over 450whp. My 20B tripple turbo will be pushing out over 1000whp. The FD i just finished is making 683whp.
When you grow up and learn a few things come back and make a worthwile reply instead of being a kid and just insulting people. mmm k.

bye bye den

http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/DSCN1273.jpg
20B tripple turbo (est. power:1300whp)
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/DSCN1271.jpg
94 FD, streetported, 3mm seals, 225,000kms and still pounding out 418whp.
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/DSCN1269.jpg
my fun bench
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album739/DSCN0877.jpg
Recently completed 95 R2 with full BP, big boost (ext power 650whp @18psi)
http://www.350zonline.com/gallery/albums/album589/laurenFLa.jpg
Oops, not one of my cars, but mine none the less.

deja vu

"And yes, Mazda does have enough money to buy out editors opinions. There dieing off so they need to get in the spotlite somehow."

"...instead of being a kid and just insulting people. mmm k."



Do you have any proof that magazine editors are on the take? Or is making accusations just your way of winning friends and influencing people? You probably do know your stuff from a tech standpoint--we only know what you've told us--but until you can substantiate your your claims, I think you owe many people a lot of apologies.

And since we're being critical, you might look into the proper use of "their," "there" and "they're." There is a difference in the way they're to be used; their purposes are completely different. It's spelled "dying," not "dieing," and it's "spotlight," not "spotlite."

P.S.: Bribed anyone yourself lately? :naughty:

My proof comes in personal experance with these cars. As well as the experance of othere drivers of these cars. I dont need to read a magazine that is biased (no matter what you say, everyone of them is).

Indeed, i may be wrong in that statement, but the 8 is not a fast car in straight lines. In the corners its right up there (still needs some tweeks IMO).

I dont beleave i owe a single person an appologie on here. If im attacked, then i will retaliate, we call it human nature. Im intitled to my opinion, as are otheres to there own. I will not attempt to change anyone opinions, just state my own. So take it with a grain of salt.

and yes, im sorry for my poor spelling and use of grammer, it has never been a strong point for me.

As for bribes, cant say i have. I let my work do the talking for me.

Your fighting a losing battle. Though I love my RX8, we'll get beat by all of them in the 1/4 with equal drivers(but not by much at all). Add a track and then we'll do some damage to all of them.

To the guy arguing his point about the 8. I understand you but in the 1/4 we'll lose in most cases. But most people seem to forget especially most of the FD owners, that our RX8's don't have a stock Turbo in them or a huge Engine. The later RX7's were light and had Turbo's so they could do some damage. Take the turbo out of the 7 and its playing with civics. The 350Z and G35 have a huge V6 in them.(I really think of them as muscle cars anyway's). Then you have the SRT-4, EVO and STi which all have Turbo's and two of them with AWD!(Rally cars, LOL)

Also just to add a point alot of the above competitors have Big Name Performance Struts, Brakes and other performance enhancing products on them. Most people don't look into depth with things, but rush to pass judgement. The RX8 is all Natural, it doesn't need a Turbo, Brembo Brakes and Mac Pherson Struts to get good performance numbers. *Side Not* Holly Crap, imagine what it would do if it did. :iceslolan

My proof comes in personal experance with these cars. As well as the experance of othere drivers of these cars. I dont need to read a magazine that is biased (no matter what you say, everyone of them is).

Indeed, i may be wrong in that statement, but the 8 is not a fast car in straight lines. In the corners its right up there (still needs some tweeks IMO).

I dont beleave i owe a single person an appologie on here. If im attacked, then i will retaliate, we call it human nature. Im intitled to my opinion, as are otheres to there own. I will not attempt to change anyone opinions, just state my own. So take it with a grain of salt.

and yes, im sorry for my poor spelling and use of grammer, it has never been a strong point for me.

As for bribes, cant say i have. I let my work do the talking for me.

But you deliberately said that Mazda bribed magazine editors. Saying that you have personal experience with cars...I don't see what that has to do with anything, other than what you've written to others. If you can present a single example of money changing hands between Mazda and an editor, I'd be interested in hearing about it. But you can't. So if you've made accusations about Mazda having bribed editors, and then admit that you can't substantiate it, don't you think that should call for an apology?

Of course, just as you can accuse editors off taking bribes to lie, I can state with no equivocation that some tuners, um, exagerate the power output of the cars they build. Then too, how many tuner cars show up at magazine shootouts and puke their guts out, or get blown off by other tuners cars? Do you know anyone who that has happened to?

But you deliberately said that Mazda bribed magazine editors. Saying that you have personal experience with cars...I don't see what that has to do with anything, other than what you've written to others. If you can present a single example of money changing hands between Mazda and an editor, I'd be interested in hearing about it. But you can't. So if you've made accusations about Mazda having bribed editors, and then admit that you can't substantiate it, don't you think that should call for an apology?

Of course, just as you can accuse editors off taking bribes to lie, I can state with no equivocation that some tuners, um, exagerate the power output of the cars they build. Then too, how many tuner cars show up at magazine shootouts and puke their guts out, or get blown off by other tuners cars? Do you know anyone who that has happened to?


Well the proof is in the magazines.
Have a look through your news stand. You will see some magazines have loads of sdvertisements through them for Mazda products, where others dont. The ones that have the ads that are all over the place are the ones that placed the RX8 as the top runner in there comparisons. Where as the othere mags without the add suport from Mazda did not place the car the same way.
But you are right, like i said for the second time, i dont have proof. But that does not constitue an appologie.

I cant comment on the "tuners" you speak of because everyone who bolts on body kits and does B18 swaps is calling themselves tuners. Yes, they do tend to imbelish there power numbers as no one wants there cars to look poor compared to the competition. But i can put money on my claims as i have built similar cars and come out with similar numbers, i dont simpley pull them out of thin air.

PS on a sad note, the 20B triturbo S5 will be almost strictly show car stuff. It almost makes me sad to complete the car because it will never get pushed with what its got. But i have to make a living some how :P

I do appologize if i offended you, or others, but im intitled to my opinions and therfore will share them with others. I also said the hole "bribe" thing about the cars based on assumption from looking at adds in these mags.

PS the only real thing i think i need to appologize for is my spelling, its horrable LOL

:lol2: 3 of them are well within reaction time and driver error. The only one that would probably never win is the RX-8. My friend has an 05' manual, and is a very good driver. I have an 04' MSM. He has never beaten me, nor finished within a car of me. For some reason in all RX-8's nowhere near 238 BHP gets to the ground. On my personal dino I ran 3 RX-8's they all ranged betweeen 170-181 WHP. :banghead:

an srt4 would stomp a 350 in actual racing

an srt4 would stomp a 350 in actual racing
not when this thread was made

From my understanding, Magazines are just like TV and Radio Stations. That's how they're able to stay up and running. Every magazine is going to have advertisements in them. Just because companies have paid the magazine to put an ad in, doesn't mean that "if" the car has an article in the magazine at that point in time that they're going to give it a good review. The RX8 has plenty of great reviews because its a great car. Get that through your heads. It just made car and drivers top 10 list for 2006 AGAIN. That's 3 years in a roll now. You guys need to get rid of your tunnel vision and look at the car as a whole.

Its still funny how an so called "underpowered car" can keep up with the big boys........................

:lol2: 3 of them are well within reaction time and driver error. The only one that would probably never win is the RX-8. My friend has an 05' manual, and is a very good driver. I have an 04' MSM. He has never beaten me, nor finished within a car of me. For some reason in all RX-8's nowhere near 238 BHP gets to the ground. On my personal dino I ran 3 RX-8's they all ranged betweeen 170-181 WHP. :banghead:

What cars are? I've never seen a car get very close to its stated engine HP!

G35 Dyno (http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46276&highlight=dyno)

Another G35 (http://www.dynoperformance.com/search_details.php?ID=493)

There are plenty more but I have to find them. Most of the Dyno machines are BS anyways. Heres a experiment that Turbo Magazine did with an 350Z:

Mixed Results for Dynos (http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash/index.html)

well since someone brought back this thread I guess I'll post, for an update, there are 4 superchargers in the works that keep the dyno line of acceleration the RX-8 have. one company is doing 3 stages, stage 1 gives you about 230whp stage 2 gives you 270whp and stage 3 gives about 315whp the other company who is making the 4th charger hasnt said exactly how much power they will find.

i bet my 2nd gen rx7 turbo will eat an rx8 up, track or dyno... the kid i bought my rx from bought an rx8, and he likes the newness of it, but preferred the take off and handling of the 7..