need help with 92 v8 rs

:banghead: I have a 92 camaro, v8 fuel injected. The problem is that after I drive it for about 20-30 minutes, shut it off for an hour, then go back out to start it, it will turn over, act like it's going to idle, then dies. When I re-start, you can hold the gas to the floor and just watch the rpms die. It will do that 5 or 6 times, then it starts up fine. No problems until the next day. I replaced the inline filter, but nothing has changed. no problems with horse power or gas mileage. I have been searching for the past few months for some help, but have found none. Any suggestions on where I should start?

try checking your coil and distributor pickup

well, if you want my opinion, hmm. that's a tricky one, but not too hard. it could be the fuel pump, or the filter, but you said you changed it. i would be willing to bet that your problem is fuel related. could be clogged injectors. there is a slight chance your timing is off, or maybe the timinggot off enough to show a lack of fuel pressure, but i don't know. other than looking at it... I think it's a fuel problem, but try the easy way first, timing, distrib, and coil, like the other guy said.

BTW, Camaro's Rock!

actually, it dosnt sound like fuel at all. not to be a dick. sounds more like a spark or air problem. more likely spark. with a fuel problem, it either starts, or it dosnt, rarely does it start, then slowly idle down to a stall, and when that is the case, it does it everytime, it dosnt go away. so fuel is fine. could be air, like a dirty IAC valve, or just really carboned up intake, try getting a BG induction service at your local shop. a stuck IAC valve will cause a slow idle down to stall but if you are holding the gas down, and it still does it, its not your IAC, because by pressing the gas you open the throttle body vlaves and let in air. so there goes that. what is most likeley is that you ahve a bad coil, or ICM. it also makes a difference if its TPI or TBI, but without running the car for codes, and being there in person to diagnose the problem, thats the best i can offer, hope it helps.

BTW, Camaro CHICKS ROCK HARDER!!!!!

I am kind of agree with this too, it is most likely an air or spark problem. I would check the computer for codes, if you how to do this and what every code means,or you can take to a shop (the charge 80-$100 for diagnostics) to reveal whether its running reach or lean,if not this must be an electrical or even mechanical problem, before you start spending money on parts that wont have any effect at all. But dont let the shops rip you off and do the work yourself if possible.

you can run the codes yourself with a paper clip. forgot to mention that, look at your Diagnostic link connection, there will be two rows of terminals, from left to right. take the ends of the wire, or paper clip, and wire the top two terminals farthest to the right together. then with a pad and pen at hand, watch your check engine light. it will start to flash. count the flashes, the first will be a code 12, this is normal. it means that the ignition is on, but there is no tach signal. thats why your check engine light turns on when you turn on the key with the engine off. the code 12 will.... flash * pause * flash flash * long pause * Flash * pause * flash flash * long pause * flash * pause * flash flash* it does this for each code, for a code 31 it will.... flash flash flash * pause * flash * long pause * and do that two more times. and it flashes each code three times. when you get back to code 12, you are done. after you do this, post the codes on this thread, and well tell you what they mean. and probly how to fix it.

oh and make sure you get the right two terminals, you can blow relays and fuses if you hotwire the wrong terminals, so basicly to make sure you get the right ones, ignore the lower row of terminals completely, look only at the top row. and wire the two farthest to the right, and wire them together. should be pretty strait forward.

Autozone will do it for free if you don't want to risk anything. But it sounds like your engine is choking to death. Since you have an RS you have a TBI, I've seen the throtle body valves stick shut from carbon deposits and moisture. That could cause your problem because it can free up then stick again. In any event once you get the codes it shouldn't be hard to find, even if you come up with no codes. Make sure to check all your vacum hoses too.

good call 92RS, forgot the title of the thread :) definately TBI, but then again, who said it was stock :-P

umm....hmmm well why don't we ask. So...is your camaro stock?? How's that???? LMFAO

lol, methinks that will answer the question, savy!!!! ok dude, just figured out what im doing tonight, where did i put that movie............................

you're all wrong, she needs a new Flux Capacitor

I thought you where supposed to say "put a blower on it"

nah, that one is only for performace questions.

i actually had this problem once b4, i don't know if your's is the same problem but the situations are similar. i checked it out and i had a valve seal leak on the intake valve for cylinder 8. if it is this problem, check your breather and see if oil is getting into the breather cover, assuming u have a tbi that is.... the valve seal leak actually caused the oil to get into my breather and restrict air flow, basically choking my engine.

kewl..thanks for the info guys...it is stock, bought it for 900 bucks. don't ask how cuz i just got lucky. nothing wrong with it except for a few minor things. not bad for a first car. anyways. i have a code key, tried that, but don't understand what it is trying to say. do i read it immeadiately when it starts blinking? or how long do i have to wait. btw. where i live, autozone is not allowed to do that diagnostic for free anymore. dunno what happened, but whatever. another question. i have heard from several people that most 92 rs 25th anniversary cars had the dual fans? mine has 4 wires to hook it up, but only one fan...wierd to me! :iceslolan

ok, so im guessing with the code key in there, it starts flashing, start reading immediately, you dont have to be absolutely perfect, because it will count off each code three times before moving on to the next one. just keep count of each one, you will get a feel for the difference between the pause between numbers, and the pause between codes. the pause between codes is longer. so just count out the flashes, and keep track, they should only be two digit codes, so if you get any three or four, you miscounted. do it again ;) as far as the fans, im pretty sure that all TBI engines got single fans, and TPI engines got dual fans. so your single fan is correct.

Thanks a lot for your help..Ill try to get to that this week sometime. But now i think i have found something else..a leak in the exhaust manifold. :banghead: ...Oh well. I'm still proud to own this car. not doing too bad with 210,000 miles on it! Ill post the codes when i get them. maybe you guys can read them better than i can.

lol, aint old cars great :) gotta love the money pit sydrome. but hey, you scored it for a major deal, so with the money yousaved, fixing it should be no sweat ;) but yeah, i can decode the codes for ya, like i said, should be pretty easy for ya. have fun with the exhaust :)

*ahem* i can handle them codes as well...

yeah yeah, that guy can do them too ;)

As can I. But I have a short attention span, and would forget unless the car was sitting in the shop http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/banghead.gif.

now fellas, lets not all fight for the girl's attention. im sure she would be happy with any of you guys helping her with the codes...lol

lol, picked up on that huh?? ah well, i guess i apologize, i just cant resist a chick in a camaro, is it just me, or DAMN is that hot :)

worry not, in my opinion there is nothing more attractive

:rofl: you guys are too much. and to think that I found this forum by accident. I'm glad I did though. Never thought I'd get so much help. and as if you guys aren't tired of trying to trouble shoot my car, I have one last thing...Is there anywhere I can find a picture of a 92 rs wiring plan of the fan? The reason I asked about the dual fans is because when I bought the car, the fan was wired into the heater blower. So the fan is running on constant power. It has never been wired into the relay(can' find that either) or the fan switch. So instead of turning on at 216 and off at 200, it runs all the time, pulling on my alternator and battery. When I tried to wire it into the switch, I have 2 sets of wires not just a pair. So I think the guy at one time had dual fans, changed to a single, but never took out the extra wires. I need to see what color goes where and the chiltens manual doesn't help me at all. Now the fan is wired back into the heater blower, so when you turn the key to on(not starting it) the fan and all the other junk is supposed to come on, but sometimes the fan does and sometimes it doesn't. I'd like to try to get it wired into the right spot......I know. I'm one of those newbies that just keep going and going...like the enegizer bunny! :lol2:

i think the reason that it's wired that way is because it quit working like mine did, i had to bypass the relay and run a switch to turn the fan on manually. a buddy of mine with a 92 had to do the same thing.

I think I'll end up just like you did, running a toggle switch into the cab and just running it that way. I just feel like I can't trust it to be on when the darn thing has quit on me soo many times while its running if you know what I mean...I think I watch the temp gauge more than I do anything else. What fun is that?

Yep. Buy a hanes manual. At autozone or advanced auto or someplace. It tells you everything. And yeah chicks in camaros....as long as the chick is hotthttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/biggrin.gif (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&s=#). Then its all good.

have a haynes manuel...they are very informative, but the problem is that the guy that had the car before me couldn't leave well enough alone. He went through changing a lot of stuff. like I said earlier, I have 4 wires for one fan when the book doesn't show 4, only two. the colors are wrong also. I'm just trying to put the car back to stock where it belongs, but it seems the further I get into it the further I get set back. I have to admit it is worth it though...as for being hot in a camaro, I think that as soon as my daughter is born, I'll look like I did when I first bought it! :grinno:

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Ya your right, but i think the first code you get will be code 12, it's a kind of a handshake. disregard this code unless it comes up again.

so the first short*pause* long, long means??

Are you pregnant?

:grinno: yeppers! but not much longer to go!

:grinno: yeppers! but not much longer to go!


Well if thats the case.... You might just want to look into a BUICK......... For the Family..... :uhoh: :uhoh:

(I know im gonna get yelled at :uhoh: )

Hey now, take that buick loving #@%$&* and go...oh hey hypsi, didn't see you there. :grinno: :lol:

well first off, congradulations on the up and coming daughter :)

second, i might be able to find and scan the wiring diagram you need, hayens manuals are very good, but i dont remember them having the stock wiring diagrams. but PM me your email and ill try and scan and send it to you, i have the 1989 camaro shop manual upstairs, the wiring for that should be the same, but i can get the 1992 camaro wiring from work for ya if you need it. as for the relay, it is under the hood, on the driver side firewall. a little black box, next to another one, the fan relay is also the fuel pump relay, and it is the one closest to the driver side fender. as far as how long each pause is, i suppose i could go outside and time them and tell ya the time for each one lol, but if you just count them, youll get a feel for it. just keep in mind that each code is only two digits. so for the code 12, the.... sixth pause should be a longer one than before. not sure exactly, im just counting in my head here.

Yeah congradulations. Now all we need is the camaros to come back out with 4 doors and FWD. HAHAHAH JJ http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/rofl.gif

not funny cannibal, not funny :(

Hey now, take that buick loving #@%$&* and go...oh hey hypsi, didn't see you there. :grinno: :lol:


I derserved it.... Ill go back to my part of the forums now..... :bricks1:

lol, hey now, there are some things to be said for buicks, not alot of nice things, but things ;)

screw you guys... Lets run 'em... (I feel like rice.) :icon16: :grinno:


OK to redeem my self and stop the argument


http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/117863camaro-med.JPG :worshippy

lol, aww common hypsi, you know we aint talkin about you, GN's or T-type's. just every other buick in the lineup :)

:nono: shame on you hypsi. a buick. i was thinking something along the line of trading my camaro in for a ford.... :bs: :rofl: never. I know its a bad joke. and thanks for all congrats. dont think ill need a 4 door. i am determined to manage with the 2.

:nono: shame on you hypsi. a buick. i was thinking something along the line of trading my camaro in for a ford.... :bs: :rofl: never. I know its a bad joke. and thanks for all congrats. dont think ill need a 4 door. i am determined to manage with the 2.

Thats cool. When I was young my parents had a Trans AM. can't rembember what year but it was a 455 pontiac with a 4 speed.

well hopefully if I can keep it in good condition till she's 16, Im going to give it to her. not like I won't have enough time to work on it or anything. :biggrin:

oh geeeze, come on, give a 16 year old girl a camaro, your just asking for boy trouble ;)

maybe your right...i didn't get it until i was 22...its either the camaro or the 72 ss nova...hmmm... :eek:

wow, she just gonna be all kinda boy magnet, very nice taste in cars though ;)

:grinno: why thank you..the nova is an east coast car though, little cancer on the skin, also have a toyota 4x, but as far as the maro goes, i just want the darn thing to run good. found a place that will rebuild the motor (port and polish with all the trimmings) for 1800. not a bad price, probably will need it soon enough. has 211,xxx on it, but it still smokes!

its a camaro, it's supposed to still smoke. chevy knows how to make an engine!

Mine smokes, hahah.

yeah thats not a bad price at all, and probly worth it on two accounts, A your gonna be spending all your time takin care of the baby, no time to do an engine rebuild, and B drivin around the baby probly nice to know the engine isnt gonna crap out on ya in the middle of no where. only suggestion, make sure they use quality parts, and not walmart specials ;)

no no wal-mart specials going into this one...only the premium stuff you know. the guy that offered me that price has done all the work on the nova motor and our toyota rebuild so i think i can trust him so far. and yes it will be wonderful to know that this car wont crap out on me. as if i wont have enough to worry about.... :p

oh well in that case, dont worry bout it :) guess you got things under control ;)

my engine was smokin once, but that was because i spilled oil in the exhaust manifold.

Mine smelled like gas once because I over filled it a little.


Oh and there was a fire in there once too...Hahah, I ran over some leaves and they got caught in there and started sizzlin. BUT everything is good.

last time mine smoked was when my electric fan motor cesaed up on me right in the middle of summer! thankfully some neighbors were right behind me and helped me put out the tiny fire under the hood...sadly, i was only a few yards from home. pulled into the driveway and the smog pump quit too. what luck!

What luck...what bad luck. That sucks

but I mean its not god awful, like alot of other things could happen that would be 100 times worse. ex: throw a rod through the engine block.

...you catch my drift

or it getting stolen.