I pwned an SRT-4

0-70 mph. I beat him by 2-3 car lengths. B4 you say bull shit i know what i did was a massive feat but its true. I had a perfect launch leaving him 6-7 car lengths back by the middle of second. By the top of third (70 mph) i had him by 2-3 car lengths and started pulling away from him. I guess he let off. Now down the freeway we had a coupl runs. 70-90 and 70-100. In both races he never pulled more than a 1 1/2 cars ahead of me.

Please dont flame me this is what happened. *puts flame suit on just incase*

So he started after you were 6-7 lengths ahead of him????? What mods do you have?

im stock. No he had a bad ass peel out.

Well...good kill, kinda hard to believe but it could happen. Besides I dont feel like flaming.

are you still driving the cavalier?
b/c if you are...
you're a liar. or he wasn't racing.
so clear that up for us...
good kill if its true.

are you still driving the cavalier?
b/c if you are...
you're a liar. or he wasn't racing.
so clear that up for us...
good kill if its true. uh yeah thers noway in hell u and a 135-140 horse cav. took an srt he obviously wasnt rascing (no flaming) but im sorry thats just not happening

Yes im still driving the cav. He had a horrible launch. He was fast. But not fast enough to catch up. If we ran from 0-90 (my approximate trap speed) it prolly would have been pretty close.

0-70 mph. I beat him by 2-3 car lengths. B4 you say bull shit i know what i did was a massive feat but its true. I had a perfect launch leaving him 6-7 car lengths back by the middle of second. By the top of third (70 mph) i had him by 2-3 car lengths and started pulling away from him. I guess he let off. Now down the freeway we had a coupl runs. 70-90 and 70-100. In both races he never pulled more than a 1 1/2 cars ahead of me.

Please dont flame me this is what happened. *puts flame suit on just incase*


it was either playing with you of it was not an srt4...it might have been an sxt

the srt4 has literally twice the torque and horsepower you car has...what do you think the result of such a race would be

and on a roll those things are monsters with a few bolt ons they trap 105 mph at the track

Sorry but that guy was not tring or it was a sxt like Neutrino said. :2cents:

my car traps at like 89-90 or so. I know thats a lot of difference. But an srt4 traps 102-105 but if i got a jump on him it would be entirely possible to beat him through the 1/4

0-70 mph. I beat him by 2-3 car lengths. B4 you say bull shit i know what i did was a massive feat but its true. I had a perfect launch leaving him 6-7 car lengths back by the middle of second. By the top of third (70 mph) i had him by 2-3 car lengths and started pulling away from him. I guess he let off. Now down the freeway we had a coupl runs. 70-90 and 70-100. In both races he never pulled more than a 1 1/2 cars ahead of me.

Please dont flame me this is what happened. *puts flame suit on just incase*

I have no clue how you can say you "pwned" him, when he pulled (probably spinning first and second) from 6 cars behind, to lead you (by YOUR own account) by 1.5 cars. In which case, if he was a better driver, and was next to you (more than likely did not expect a stock Cavalier to try and race him) through the start, he would've won by over 8 cars.

Trust me, if he wanted to, he could've pulled a LOT more 1.5 cars on you top-end. He probably just didn't want to to go much more than 100 to prove that his car was faster.

BTW, my car has trapped about 94 in the 1/4, and I had you by a good 3 cars after 2nd...and I can't imagine hanging with an SRT the way my car is now.

Id believe it. The guy probably sucked ass and didnt know how to drive. From a roll now i dont know. Ive beaten cars with WAY more power than me because the guy couldnt launch for shit.

Hey carrrnuttt im ready for a rematch. Ive become a better driver. I know how to launch my car properly. Oh btw, i dont care if no one belives me. I did it and i dont care.

you THINK you did it. There's a big difference there.

i believe you beat him, but i believe what happen was he didn't think you were gonna race and once he seen that you were he took of to go catch you. as far as the freeway, i've raced crx's and civics on the freeway and played with them by barely staying in front of them because i know they can't go any faster. i'm assuming thats what happend, but its a possibility that his launch was so so horrible that it took him 6 car lengths to recover.

but like you said, you know we don't

Horrible launch in how, he had a lot of wheel spin? So what even with a lot of wheelspin it would of been able to fly right past you. My Firebird being a whole second slower than that SRT-4 I gurantee I could sit there for a few seconds just spinning the tires like crazy and still have time to blow your doors off, an SRT-4 should have a much easier time doing the same thing.

I don't understand how thats possible but if the guy was actually racing then you just got one hell of a win. Good job I guess...

With all the flaming that happens here, I am suprised you had the balls to post at all. Good on ya!
Look, he said the guy peeled out and screwed up. He didn't say his car was faster. Simply put, I believe what he is trying to say is his driving skills were superior to the srt, so it takes more than a fast car to win a race....

ok.... :icon16:

well, considering it was the street an basically anything can happen there...props to u.

With all the flaming that happens here, I am suprised you had the balls to post at all. Good on ya!
Look, he said the guy peeled out and screwed up. He didn't say his car was faster. Simply put, I believe what he is trying to say is his driving skills were superior to the srt, so it takes more than a fast car to win a race....


yes we all know that...but its still a bit hard to believe...not sure if you keep up with the cars that we have here in the us but those srt4 are right down monsters..stock they are capable of high 13's and they respond extremelly well to mods 1500 USD will put you in mid 12's

i've just watched again a vid of an srt4 here at rocky mountain raceway(over 4000 feet altitude) and it bogged the car something awefull off the line and still pulled a 14.80 quater

so you understand why is so hard to belive..that srt4 driver had to be extremelly bad

I stand corrected I guess. I don't really follow the american cars as much, but I have seen my share of unlikely defeats...
Over here we have a car called a Starlet Glanza V. It is a single turbo 1.3 litre little hatchback. I watched one absolutely smoke a s15 sylvia with a turbine swap (ask JOJO from velocity as he was standing right beside me). Sometimes in racing, the unlikely happens, but rarely the impossible. I have to go with the mod on this one. If you did beat him, like I said before, good on ya. If this is one of those situations where the BS is chin deep, remember, "fool me once shame on me....."

Neutrino, being as I am too lazy to look it up, fill me in on the srt4
thanks much
N

Hey carrrnuttt im ready for a rematch. Ive become a better driver. I know how to launch my car properly. Oh btw, i dont care if no one belives me. I did it and i dont care.
I never said I didn't believe you. I just said I don't where you are coming-off saying that you "pwned" him.

As for the race, I've been busy with school lately, so I'll have to see when I can meet with ya.

My car is possible to have a low 15 sec 1/4, i belive i was right around there. But guessing by the speed i was at (70) we ran about an 1/8 mile. Its possible that he couldnt make up the difference in the time frame, what we have a 1.2 second difference. Its all possible. Hell even if i had the shitty start like he did i wouldnt have been able to catch up in the distance we did.

Well if it was a 1/8 maybe...but he must have really messed his launch. Anyways turbo that thing and own some real drivers.

Neutrino, being as I am too lazy to look it up, fill me in on the srt4
thanks much
N


Well the srt4 it’s in a way the new omni GLH....big turbo engine in a small car....

The engine is ridiculously strong you can find more details about it here:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0310scc_projneon/

It puts more to the wheels than its factory rated at the crank...many of them especially the 04's put over 230 WHP and 250 WTQ

And mopar offers a bunch of staged upgrades covered under the factory warranty

Stage 1 will give you over 240WHP and 260WTQ for only $350
Stage 2 will be something like 260WHP 280WTQ with a switch for high octane maps and should put down over 280WHP
Stage 3 will be over 300WHP and 300WTQ but it might void the warranty

Of course you can do your own mods and for about $1500(boost controller, wastegate actuator, slicks) you can pull close to mid 12's...it’s documented on video

Anyway if you would like I can PM you more info

My car is possible to have a low 15 sec 1/4, I believe I was right around there. But guessing by the speed i was at (70) we ran about an 1/8 mile. Its possible that he couldnt make up the difference in the time frame, what we have a 1.2 second difference. Its all possible. Hell even if i had the shitty start like he did i wouldnt have been able to catch up in the distance we did.


Are you sure about that...I thought low 15's was RSX territory

Are you sure about that...I thought low 15's was RSX territory
I think he needs to read this article: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0311scc_tcavalier/

- "And at the track, the car ran a respectable 0-to-60 mph time of 7.5 seconds and a 15.4-second quarter mile at 91.3 mph."

That's a TURBOCHARGED 2003 Ecotec Cavalier that ran that time. My best time in my Classic SE-R is 15.00. Hmmm...

- "The last stock Ecotec Cavalier we tested ran to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and loafed down the strip in 16 seconds flat at 85.6 mph."

I doubt if even the best of drivers can cut almost a whole second off that time...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/disappointed.gif

The SRT-4 is NOT 1 to 1.3 seconds faster you. It's more like 2 to 2.3 seconds faster, although you HAVE raced a car that is around .5 to a second faster than your car (mine), and we all know what happened there...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=158996&highlight=carrrnuttt

I think he needs to read this article: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0311scc_tcavalier/

- "And at the track, the car ran a respectable 0-to-60 mph time of 7.5 seconds and a 15.4-second quarter mile at 91.3 mph."

That's a TURBOCHARGED 2003 Ecotec Cavalier that ran that time. My best time in my Classic SE-R is 15.00. Hmmm...

- "The last stock Ecotec Cavalier we tested ran to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and loafed down the strip in 16 seconds flat at 85.6 mph."

I doubt if even the best of drivers can cut almost a whole second off that time...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/disappointed.gif

The SRT-4 is NOT 1 to 1.3 seconds faster you. It's more like 2 to 2.3 seconds faster, although you HAVE raced a car that is around .5 to a second faster than your car (mine), and we all know what happened there...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=158996&highlight=carrrnuttt


yeah i have that article too...i though that turbo cav was kind of sad with those perf numbers.....but anyway low 16's for a stock cav sounds more like it

low 15's is for 3.5 maximas or gtps...but those have 260 hp and 280hp even though they are a bit heavy

i just read that sport compact article about the cavalier. dont forget you guys, that the stock cavalier had stock brakes, stock wheels, stock springs, stock everything when it was tested. the modified car got heavier parts all together, i mean look at the size of the wheels they have on that thing, they re 19 inch wheels, lots of rotational mass, and its got big 13 inch brakes, which are all enough to slow it down to like .5 sec. id say with smaller, lighter wheels, and some lighter parts, it could do high 14s with that kinda power to weight ratio, or look at it as how much more improvement in speed it would have gotten if everything was kept stock, except for the engine.

i just read that sport compact article about the cavalier. dont forget you guys, that the stock cavalier had stock brakes, stock wheels, stock springs, stock everything when it was tested, so less weight than the modified one in the article. i mean look at the size of the wheels they have on that thing, they re 19 inch wheels, lots of rotational mass, and its got big 13 inch brakes, which are all enough to slow it down to like .5 sec. id say with smaller, lighter wheels, and some lighter parts, it could do high 14s with that kinda power to weight ratio, or look at it as how much more improvement in speed it would have gotten if everything was kept stock, except for the engine.

well that is beside the point...were talking about stock cavaliers...the turbo was mentioned as a side thing...


although upgraded brakes are a must when you up the power on a car

well that is beside the point...were talking about stock cavaliers...the turbo was mentioned as a side thing...


although upgraded brakes are a must when you up the power on a car

yea...but you guys were also saying that its improvement were rather low, without mentioning why, its only running 8 psi, with heavier parts, so i felt like adding to it. its power to weight ratio is good enough for it be quicker than what they got, but i do agree that you should upgrade the brakes, im just saying that it adds to slowing the vehicle down from its original set up. im sure you knew about this, i just wanted to remind some of you guys.

Did his car sound like an SRT-4? If not then I think you raced an SXT with a the dealer's "SRT appearance package".

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25642&highlight=sxt+package

You're probably in the mid 16 second range. A rwd 2-door S-10 can barely break a high 15 second run and I have a video of one of those beating a Cavalier easily.

R/T ... .137
60' ... 2.185
330 ... 6.232
1/8 ... 9.618
MPH ... 73.09
1000 ... 12.521
1/4 ... 15.011
MPH ... 90.93

Thats one of my friends times. Im getting prtetty close to him. Maybe a car or so off. Im getting a lot better at driving.

oh and btw thats stock. Completely stock 02 Ecotec. I dont have the timeslip or i would give it to ya guys.

zx2?

zx2?

That would be a Ford Escort. Did you mean the Z24?

oh and btw thats stock. Completely stock 02 Ecotec. I dont have the timeslip or i would give it to ya guys.
I think you should ask for a slip, 'coz somebody is blowing smoke up your ass about either A) his/her times, or B) being stock.

Or maybe he needs to teach these Cav drivers a lesson: http://www.modifiedmemphis.com/forums/timeslips.php

I used to own a Chevy 4-banger, a Beretta GTZ that had 180HP and 160ft-lbs of TQ stock, that out-weighed your Cav by less than 200lbs (2830lbs vs 2680lbs), and THAT car was capable of 15-flats, but that's with excellent driving.

Maybe you should send your "friend" this way to defend this awesome Cavalier of his, because my car weighs 200lbs LESS than his Cav (stock-for-stock), with the same HP, and my car takes some good driving to get into the 15-flats.

Think about it.

i agree with carnnutt...i've looket quite a bit around and i could not see a stock 2.2 come even close to flat 15's

he said he had an ecotec, I believe the zx2 has an ecotec, along with the focus.

he said he had an ecotec, I believe the zx2 has an ecotec, along with the focus.


no ecotec is the chevy engine

the focus and the Zx2 have zetecs made by ford

he said he had an ecotec, I believe the zx2 has an ecotec, along with the focus.

Ford has the ZETEC designation, along with their Duratec motors. While Chevy has the Ecotec.

Ford has the ZETEC designation, along with their Duratec motors. While Chevy has the Ecotec.


I smoked you in posting speed :biggrin:

ah, I see.
well, they rhyme at least.
sort of.

i agree with carnnutt...i've looket quite a bit around and i could not see a stock 2.2 come even close to flat 15's

Hmmm, you don't say? :slap:

However, if you were only referring to the Ecotec, then I would have to agree. :)

Again running 15 flat would put you in the territory of Mustang 5.0's and my Firebird, you honestly think you can hang with those?

Yes its an Ecotec.

Yes i think i would be able to hang with 5.0's and firebirds

In a parking lot?









J/K I still think your car is too heavy with not enough power to hang with an SRT4. IMO. But wierder things have happened.

Yes its an Ecotec.

Yes i think i would be able to hang with 5.0's and firebirds

Let's settle this.

Since Brandon (90redgt) is back in town with his (modded) 5.0, that my car BARELY hung with, the SAME car (mine) that beat you by more lengths than his 5.0 beat mine, why don't you race him?

Talk is cheap. Have you actually raced a 5.0 that was trying? If you're talking about pre-1997 Firebirds (as in V6), then maybe you'll hang. Don't test 1997+ Firebirds I suggest though, as they are still high 14, low 15-second cars.

Oh wait, your car is a 15-flat car, right?

i think that pretty much settled it, no?

Lets go. But i dunno when? Maybe this weekend?

Or you could just race me in my SRT-4? It's a Neon. Hi. :D That would be an exact recreation of this whole discussion, right? Where do you live?

Tim (ECOT3C): This Führer kid one of your friends?
http://www.azstreetracing.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4148&st=40

He seems mighty defensive of you...and he owns a Cavalier himself...

EDIT: For those of you that don't want to sign-up just to see what's behind my link, this is Tim's buddy in our local forums:
http://www.rc.i4m.org/fuhrer.jpg

Tim is being called-out there just as much as he is on here, BTW.

Man, that guy Fuhrer is a complete fucktard though. What kind of moron becomes a Neo Nazi in 2004? I think he musta gotten beat up by a minority or something when he was in highschool...if he isn't still in highschool.

Tim (ECOT3C): This Führer kid one of your friends?
http://www.azstreetracing.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4148&st=40

He seems mighty defensive of you...and he owns a Cavalier himself...

EDIT: For those of you that don't want to sign-up just to see what's behind my link, this is Tim's buddy in our local forums:


Tim is being called-out there just as much as he is on here, BTW.


with that name and sig how the heck is he not banned from that forum? Anyway it does sound like one of his friends.

Btw do you think he is called only here and there....NO

he is called even on the j-body forums...yeah even his felow cavalier drivers don't belive him
here is teh link
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=43&i=15427&t=15427

This thread is the perfect example of why you shouldn't drink bong water.

:screwy:

No one belives me anyways.

No one belives me anyways.



Cause it's like saying a Dump Truck with a full load of cow manure* out ran a NHRA Top Fueler in the quarter mile.







* Manure: Cow Fecal matter, Fieces, Poop, also known as Bullshit

No one belives me anyways.

Honestly though dude...can you really blame us? I mean, I own an SRT-4 so I've more or less decided it would be best if I stayed out of this little flame-fest, but you're really comparing apples to oranges and giving us very little reason to even WANT to beilieve you.

If you put Jeff Gordon all tweaked out on cocaine in your car, and Corky from "Life Goes On" in an SRT-4 with the windows fogged up, vaseline on the shifter, and a dead hooker strapped to the hood...well the SRT-4 would still win. It would be close...but Corky is competitive.

Honestly though dude...can you really blame us? I mean, I own an SRT-4 so I've more or less decided it would be best if I stayed out of this little flame-fest, but you're really comparing apples to oranges and giving us very little reason to even WANT to beilieve you.

If you put Jeff Gordon all tweaked out on cocaine in your car, and Corky from "Life Goes On" in an SRT-4 with the windows fogged up, vaseline on the shifter, and a dead hooker strapped to the hood...well the SRT-4 would still win. It would be close...but Corky is competitive.

HAHA RedNeck I think you may have some competition in the comedy department :icon16: j/k But seriously this topic need to be settled with a video of this cat racing a srt-4 and winning or a 5.0 mustang. Untill that happens I say B.S

Come people how is it so hard to see an SRT losing in a 1/8? If the guy fucked his launch bad then it could happen. And like all of you say the SRT is a beast on the top end which is way it is so good from a roll. So the guy blows his launch RPMs drop causeing the car to bog and the race is over before SRT can put a bad spanking on him. I mean how long is a 1/8 mile race? 10secs? give or take. Doesnt seem to hard for me to believe.