Sad.....

Oh yeah, McLaren will build the SLR. I haven't heard anything of a new F1 though. ANyway, now seems to be the wrong time to get into the super-car market. Stocks are falling, but old car auctions are still more and more prosperous, and the economy should pick up, so it might not be so bad (typed with crossed fingers, which is amazingly hard to do!)

Just on a sidenote, is the SLR still in plans for actual production? I seem to recall hearing somewhere that it was cut?

I never heard that, bu tit might be true. I hope not, though. But it might sell better with a V12 ( for 250000, rich people want everything, even if the V8 is better):rolleyes:

starting from the first reply or whatever its called: a 100 mclarens were made, yes. by my count i have 64 road going F1's. i can double check that if you guys want. there were 5 LMs. 3 GT Longtails. and 28 GTR's. ( 95-no fewer than 10 made, 96-9 made, 97- 8 made).
RACER 20: the CLK GTR is going to beat the McLaren in areas except for top speed because it is a race car made for the road whereas the mclaren was made for the road then made into a race car.
KOENIGSEGG CC: this car hasnt been tested yet so no one knows the acceleration times and top speed. and yes, koenigsegg is a company.
DIMEX: i agree 100% with you on the CC.
BLAXICANYIIK: the LM did accelerate to 60 mph in uner 3 seconds(2.9 secs). BUT it didnt go to 100 mph in under 5 seconds. i dont know the actual time for that, but under 5 seconds??? come on. and if i understood your reply correctly, you said the LM was the fastest being beaten by a callaway vette and others. the F1 held the world's fastest production car record(240.14 mph) and it still holds that record. the callaway wasnt production as someone already said, there was only one made.
PSMAN32: that fin that you are talking about is the BB foil(brake and balance foil). one part of your reply is correct. it does put up under braking..doesnt have to be heavy braking depends on speed. and it also opened up a duct to the rear brakes that allowed hot air to escape easier and cooler air to cool the brakes. pretty cool, huh?
PSMAN32 again: the exhaust diffuser or silencer whatever you want was intended to be the rear impact absorber. its not large enough to be considered one, it is one. the reason for this was because Gordon Murray was mad about how much the exhaust system weighed so he designed the silencer to be the rear impact absorber and it does a good job(ive seen pics of rear impacts of the F1).
I_REBEL: i only wish

if you guys want more info/my source/to yell at me/tell me im an idiot please reply. i enjoy talking about this car. as you can tell im a bit of a fanatic. :)

Originally posted by beezer
ive also seen a ferrrari f40 gt with gold mufflers! cool but expesive.

The F40 I saw at Ferrari of Atlanta had gold mufflers...they were cool. With the hood open (even with it closed) it was SOOO loud...it sounded like a jet, distorted everybody's voices, etc.

McLaren F1 is a Treasure. i don't think any one has done over 500 miles. A guys in Australia has a Silver one, never drove it ONCE! Some time you wonder wuts the point of buying it.

But like any other car it has good sides and bad parts to it,

Center driving position is desirable and looks good, but it in fact is a pain in the arse. the F1 has a height just over a metre, it is very hard to get into the car and then sit tight in the center driving sit, same as getting out. If u ask how i know, i sat in it.

Viewing angle isn't very good either, can't see shit behind you. you have to constantly checking two mirror at the same time and they don't show u much.

But wut can i say, it is the best. in which ever way.

Any lets not forget, CLK GTR airbons..... Never seen a McLaren do that!

i seriously doubt that not one F1 has over 500 miles. there is a man in texas who owns one and drives it to work, everyday. so you've sat in a F1. do tell..

I've sat in one too. Off-course you can't see behind you, it's a mid-engined car. It belonged to a ceo of some company (didn't ask). It was dark and I couldn't tell if it was orange or red. But I'm sure it wasn't the orange LM. When I left the airport that night I couldn't sleep until 6 in the morning. I was talking to somebody who I knew worked for McLaren. Then I saw the sun come up and knew it was time ot get some rest. lol Anyway, I think McLaren doesn't have a plans for a sucessor to the F1. Plus, if your gonna make only one car you would want it to be the best drivers car ever made right? Oh well, there's always the Benz SLR...

I would give anything to sit in one.
Of course its cramped and has bad rear visibility, its a freakin supercar.
I think the arrowhead configuration would be good for driving, as you are at the 'center' of the car, so you could better judge where the cars corners are, etc, etc.

if there is a choice of having either

ONLY a McLaren's Body (no engine0

Or

Only Engine, no body

which one would you guys prefer?

I'd want both, LOL. You're so lucky to actually sit in one. But I'd go with the Body-Engine cause you can just get a Le Mans engine off BMW which makes 700hp. I think the F1 is the only or one of very few cars that have a central driver's seat, I envy those who got to see such a beauty. BTW, There's one for sale at Newport Autosport with 2500 Miles on it, the price, P.O.A whatever the hell that means, Price on asking or somthing I don't know I saw a 1974 Porsche 935 Carrera RSR and a 904 GTS with P.O.A with it beside too so it more than one easy payment of $19.95.

yeah that's ture, i think there is a guy in Australia brought a McLaren F1 and then mold the body, he is making a few replicas just for the family members, like the garage has over 12 McLarens. only one is real. can't even tell the freaking difference.

we need more pics in this top :E

Here is a sweet picture of the LM, that has to be the most beautiful shade of orange ever, and Enzo, i remeber you saying something about how you bought a Mclaren model car off of ebay and you were very angry with it, what was wrong? i just barely bought one off ebay and i don't want it to be a dud. i'll keep you posted

who's the guy in Australia that's got the McLaren ?

any chance yah know where he lives cos I wanna stalk the dude. It's sad that those autoshow in Australa don't show the McLaren. Even though it's not new but the fact that it so rare and SUPER it should make an appearance.

So u can stalk my uncle??

your uncle has a mclaren?!?

if anybody else said that I'd say bullshit, but since you're 18 and you have a Diablo... I believe you

Nar gangster..... that was bullshit!!!

but the guy is a friend of my uncle tho, he made 12 replica copies for his family members, 3 in USA, 5 in Indonisia.. and he has 4 him self, including one real one..

i sat in it once, it was magic..... 1000000000 times better than Diablo man!!!

what kind of engines do the replicas have?

oh and what is the body made out off? it can't be the same material as the mclaren cause the mclaren has some cool material (maybe carbon fibre) but i saw this thing on the making of the mclaren and they cut pieces out (they're soft material, they cut with scissors) then they just put it in the shape they want it and stick it in an oven that heats it to 4000 degrees (celcius, i think) and it hardens

You're right Gan$tarr, thmaterial is a form of Carbon fibres. I saw that show too, it was cool, one part of the factory looks like a Giant clothing factory and then they put it in the molds and Several Thousand deggrees and tonnes of Pressure later.... Mclaren F1 body! I'd like to see the Gold Foil in the engine bay. :D

heh they showed the gold engine foil in the show I saw :) they showed it in the engine and talked about it for like 10 seconds

are you talkin about the Top Gear with tiff needle? i juss downloaded it and watched it (that's what i'm talkin bout)

Is there any place i can see this video? where did you download it from?

I believe its Fibre Glass, carbon fibre is very expensive in terms of making.

$30,000 just for a doggy fully body.

his one is quite good, but only $28,000 for a full body...

it looks the same, feels not much difference.

Originally posted by Lambo_BoY
carbon fibre is very expensive in terms of making.


so is a mclaren! :D

Originally posted by snowboarder927
Is there any place i can see this video? where did you download it from?

i got it off a website before... but you could probably get it off morpheus (Kazaa) just type in: Top Gear Mclaren or even just top gear, cause he reviews alotta cool cars... i like his review of the E46 M3

woo hoo, i got it. that has to be the best video i have EVER seen, holy crap its amazing! you should download the one where he test drives the M5, that one is bad@$$!

go to

www.crazydrive.com

its good, i got many good videos in it

are you sure thats it, when i clicked the link i got a speaker website.

yeah, snowboarder it's funny when he steps on the pedal, it pushes his head back and he screams! :D well no really screaming but he's like AHHHHH!!!!

i can't watch it right now cause my sounds not workin :( but when they're cutting the pieces out for the body.... don't they say it's carbon fibre?? post back so i'm sure

btw yeah i've seen the M5 vid it's cool, in the rain.... i've seen most of them... they're really interesting :)

Lambo_Boy--- the McLaren is made of carbon fiber. that's why the McLaren is so exspensive. it has a carbon fiber monocoque, and the body panels, and doors are made of carbon fiber. it is NOT fiberglass.

Yeah they said it was carbon fibre in the video, and Hermunn you might want to read his first post again, then you would know that he was talking about the replica's that the guy in australia made for family members using fiberglass. my favorite part is when he goes around the corner and squeals his tires and he's like "this is sensational!"

oops...:D :D :D i guess i need to learn to read a little better....

Its all good!:cool:

I saw it on TV, Classcs on SPVN with Peter Isler, It was just Narration but they had a Factory tour with a Yellow one! and their was a chat with Gordan Murray.

i wish i could meet Gordon Murray. that guy is a stud!

Originally posted by hermunn123
i wish i could meet Gordon Murray. that guy is a stud!


stud? aren't you a guy? that's wrong my friend :D

I would like a McLArens body, it is the most amazing. You can make any engine incrtedibly powerful, but you cant do the body.

I have to get that video!!! I will at my moms house (high speed)

Does Lambo Boy really own a lamborghini?? If so, how rich are you?? What do your parents do??? Can you please buy me a mini Cooper (an old one, real cheap, at, say, 6 or seven grand for a good, good one).

Wouldnt you scream after going from 0-100 mph in 6.7 seconds?? It now has to stand up to the Bugatti Veyron, which no one knows a heck of a lot about (ex, body material, interior, seating configuration, performance, etc, etc.)

yeah, he's only 18!! and he as a Diablo! got it for a present

Im going to the diablo forum to pursue this.

quote:
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Originally posted by hermunn123
i wish i could meet Gordon Murray. that guy is a stud!
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stud? aren't you a guy? that's wrong my friend

yes, im a guy. i obviously didnt mean it like that. have you ever seen the guy? he is one ugly bloke. he's a stud as in creating the world's best car.

Originally posted by hermunn123


yes, im a guy. i obviously didnt mean it like that. have you ever seen the guy? he is one ugly bloke. he's a stud as in creating the world's best car.

:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:

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I cant belive I never found this site before. I'm in paradise! this is wonderful. and now when i talk about the McLaren F1 i don't have to worry about some loser asking me "what's that?" I have long respected this car and it is still my favorite. I want to inform all of you that there are some cars planned for production in the future that you snould know about. first is the Koenigsegg CC. the site for that is: www.koenigsegg.se (http://www.koenigsegg.se) and then there's the Lotec Sirius. the site for that is...nevermind i don't know. you can find some info about it on supercars.net (http://www.supercars.net) or this site (http://www.supersportwagen.net) both are pretty cool. The next car to look out for is the Mosler that you can see on this website (http://www.moslerauto.com) . I know there are some other challengers to the McLaren that are just stepping up to challenge the McLaren F1 after all these years(Bugatti 16/4 Veyron), but i don't particularly like their style. this new triangulation thing sux ass. so check it out and tell me what you think.:eek2:
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there's a car called the SXR that's supposed to be coming out soon and it will be faster than the mclaren

That's Lambo_Boy's next car, cuase he's bored of his Diablo. I still need to here some stuff on this SXR.

yeah same here

They should have a mosler forum, as I love this car. What company makes the SXR.
I will take LAmbo_Boy's car off his hands for him if he wants.
Welcome to AF dill_roy. :)

hi guys, i was just looking around AF and found this one and u guys are cool, hi chris we will have to get Lambo_Boy to post on the whats the fastest you have driven forum and upset some lamers lol. im lucky im a brit and ive seen 2 F1 in "real Life" Reg. Nos 3 MCL and 7 MCL. The guy Driving 7 MCL was one of the guys off the Top Gear Episode u guys are on about, He had the BIGGEST grin on his face, it was while i was on the M42 Motorway (Freeway) near Birmingham in heavy traffic, i was in the middle lane, looked in my mirror and saw this "Thing", Thought to myself "Nah couldnt be!!" ask my friend who was with me to see wat it was. "Its a F****** Maclaren F1" of course i slowed a little and let it come slowly past me, as i looked over i saw the guy with the grin. wouldnt we all be grinning driving that peice of Machinery. I pulled out behind him ( we only doing about 30 Mph in the traffic ) he let a gap open up in front of him, then dropped the hammer, the fin came up and i still cant believe the acceleration it has, he slowed down and let me pass him i nodded over to him, he waved back, then he left the Motorway:D BTW i had my window open and the Stereo off to listen to the Engine, it is so sweet Who Needs A Stereo in an F1. 3 MCL i just saw in passing, not as much fun:o Still it was an F1 tho.:sun:

The question of Body or Engine? Has to body cos there aint much the engine can go in anyway, and at least the Body will still look good.

So you saw Tiff Needle in the F1. Awesome!! He is one of the few journalists who actually got to drive that car, he is so lucky.
I bet Lambo_Boy hasnt cracked 100...:D

I'm sure lambo_boy has been way over a 100.... i bet he goes that fast by accident :D

Nah Chris it wasnt Tiff It was one of the guys who works for McLaren i think.

Either way, the guy is lucky!!!

nemisis get that top gear off of the internet and watch it again... i'm like 99% sure it's tiff needel driving the mclaren.... actually 99.9% sure

Chris i think you're right about the Lambo episode, that fro guy isn't tiff.... i compared their voices and they're different :D :D

yes Gang$tarr it was Tiff driving on the top gear episode but this was awhile after it when i was on the Freeway, im pretty sure it was one of the Engineer guys who was driving it. Nice perk of the job i supose ( The LUCKY Git ), i saw the top gear thing on TV when it was first aired, not sure but i think tiff went on to drive the F1 in Le Mans.

Driven at LeMans!!!:eek:
I know the guy is talented (nickname: Opposite Locksmith), but that good, wow!! He would have been there when the McLarens swept, too, then.

Attention:
Building a McLaren F1...
The McLaren is known as one of the most exotic cars in the world, of course you know that. Also one of the hardest to get, We are building a McLaren F1 replica. This is like no ordinary replica though. We build the chassi from a 1 1/2 " tubular powder coated steel, instead of a some other stretched car. It can be powder coated any color you would like. We have a racing suspension, carbon fiber body, BMW V12 modified, CD player, working fin in the back, working compartments, and center drive. This well built car has the same dimensions as the original, cant tell the difference, and the differences will be the gold lining in the engine compartment and the satellite uplink. We do not have those. The original goes for you know a cool 1 to 1.8 million dollars. Did you also know, if you bought a real McLaren you are only allowed to drive it 2500 miles a year? If driven over 2500 miles they take the car back. We of course do not do that, you may put as many miles as you want.
Our McLaren may be serviced at any BMW mechanic or any BMW dealer. When the car is registered it will be registered as a McLaren F1 R1 or just McLaren R1. You may have this car painted in any color you want, frame and body, and...if there are any differences you want done differently to this car you may ask and we can possibly add or subtract what you want or don't want. We can make it a limited edition... Please reply and ask me any more questions you may have. Price will go up on demand, and we will not make very many. Please get back to me asap

$160,000 down starts the car, you pay the rest when finished, or you can go ahead and pay in full. Up to you. We will not start any car unless we have a deposit, car is very costly and takes 4 to 4 1/2 months to build. But the wait will be worth it..

Order now and get yours before summer 2002
Have fun in the sun!!! please spread the word the McLaren is back!!!

Thank You!!

Jeff

Platinum Exotics:o :smoker::flipa:

I doubt they can take away your property when you drive it even 1.000.000 miles a year.
They surely mean you should do a Full Service after 2500 miles or 9 months. These are sadly no unusual intervals for supercars.

Actually, they are allowed under the show and display clause. Which limits mileage to 2500 miles a year. A racetrack is different, and unlimited.

Tiff was an F1 and Le Mans driver. he lead a lap in Lemans while driving one of Aston Martins cars.
the guy with the afro in the lambo episode is Jeremy Clarkson, he is one of their contributing editors.

Further extending hermunn123's explanation of the moving wing on the McLaren:

The wing provides several things:
• high speed braking stability (back wheels won't lock as easily, thus won't spin out, especially on a mid-engine car)
• more even brake bias at high speeds, thus
• feasability for use of softer brake pads, thus
• drivability with unboosted and non-ABS brakes, even across the high speed range, thus
• reduced weight (no power braking equipment!)

And about the gold:
Gold is the best heat reflector. It is also a very good conductor. What this means is the actual radation from the engine bounces off the gold, through the glass, and out into space. If the gold wasn't there, the heat would be hitting the nice black carbon fiber, which we all know is not too healthy.

As technologically advanced and beautiful the McL F1 is, one must realize how much of its technology trickled down from the aerospace industry. (Vector.. <shudders>)

This is a good amount of reading, hope it doesn't raise your nerdosterone/geekstrogen levels too much: you may have a dorkgasm! :D

http://www.mclarencars.com/content/sections/mainfr/comp.htm
click on press, read the stuff
(and YES, www.mclarencars.com is the OFFICIAL McLaren [road] Cars company website)

Here's a few McL F1 desktops I made
http://www.geocities.com/turbynegtx/f1lm.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/turbynegtx/f1lma.jpg <- my fav
http://www.geocities.com/turbynegtx/f1lmb.jpg

Car and Driver, the greatest car magazine out there, did a story on the Koeingsegg CC in the Nov 2001 issue:
http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/roadtests/2001/november/200111_roadtest_superegg.xml

Road and Track, Car & Driver's snobby prep-school brother, actually reviewed the F1 a while back. I can't find the date exactly, if someone can check at a library or something I'm sure you can find it. For the most part, this looks like the text:
http://jamesh91.tripod.com/page_3.htm

And to the chassis count: There were 100 produced for order, but I believe there may have been somewhere around 5 prototypes built as well. Look closely at details (bumper, mirror, etc.) and you might be able to spot out which ones were protoypes. (one of them being the blue XP5 that Tiff Needell drove on Top Gear).

http://people.bu.edu/mingda/img/turbyne_s.jpg

in my November '94 issue of Road and Track which has the F1 on the cover, Paul Frere wrote a different article than the one you posted in the link. that article does look to be written by Road and Track though considering Peter Egan wrote it.

Turbyne: where did you get all your information? that was good stuff.