human sexuality

What does everyone feel about being free with thier sexuality? Personally, I feel that you need to save it for your spouse untill your married because that way if you both save it, you are both clean and your wedding night is a wonder expericne. I also believe its a gift from God and it shouldnt be squandered. Because when you sleep around you get dirty and when your ding dong falls off, you dont know why. I dont wanna piss anybody off but id like to know what people think.

im not saying that its ok to have sex with as many people as possible, but i could care less how often or how many partners people have, i personally don't care for dating sluts, sex isn't sacred to me, but its not something to be taken lightly. as long as you trust the person youre with and they trust you(meaning you haven't just met them at the bar), i don't see a problem. the only thing that bothers me are people who don't care to use a condom or some other type of protection and those not so attractive females that try to get you drunk. thats why atleast one of my friends is always sober to watch out for the group

so crapmaster, is sex something dirty to you? b/c you think people should wait till they're married, and stay clean

Never heard of anyone's "ding dong" falling off from too much sex...

Mine fell off last week. :)

id like to know what people think.

I think you come from a conservative background, probably a small country town somewhere in the US bible belt. You blindly accept every load of Christian Crap that gets stuffed down your throat at home, school and around general community.

When you have enough life experience and maturity to be independant in both thought and action, you will be able to have a more balanced opinion that I respect more than the blind rhetoric you are currently spouting.

:)

That's what I think.

Ok your right about SOME of that, Oz it sounds like youve never grew up in a small town really dont know what its like. I grew up in a church and have gone to church all my life. That dosent mean that ive always loved God. I used to hate God and never wanted to go to church, but that changed last year when I realized what I was doing was retarded and I always went threw every day feeling like crap. This went on for many years but finnialy it had to be stopped. And this "christian crap" is real and theres no way you cant say its not, theres too much scientific evidence to say that God is real. A recent scientific survey showed that 95% of scientists believe there is a God even. And to say that Gods not real is just a bunch of crap. If you want to see some evidence that Gods real in the bible, read the book of revelations compare it to whats going on today.

Oh and I almost forgot, the crap about it being fed down our throats at school is a bunch of crap. Its pretty much the exact opposite of what you think, God is discouraged and thats a shame because where the youth of america is being brainwashed into thinking there is no God.

I am so sick of that crap about a survey saying ##% of scientests believe in god. WHO CARES! It doesn't hold water! I mean really, is that all you people can come up with when the word "science" is mentioned?

LAME!

Well the point im trying to make is that even scientists believe in God so how cant you believe in God. Im not trying to piss anybody off but if it does, that just reaffirms my position on everything because that means you know that God is real but your to afraid to admit it.

It's simple. Because I AM ME.

Show me one GOOD piece of evidence that God exists. And not some some self-serving 'how can he not if...' crap. You've taken it hook, line and sinker buddy. And how did I guess the majority of that? Because your blind ignorance smacks of someone with little life and/or world exposure and experience.

If you need proof, look around at gods creation, The trees, the animals and people, pain inside, even the whole entire universe. Thats enough proof for anybody, but the one true fact that makes me know without a doubt is the fact that ive felt pain and hes the only thing that can take that away, not drugs, alcohol, sex or anything. God is real and thats just my own proof, you need to experince the awesome thing that is our creator.

If you need proof, look around at gods creation, The trees, the animals and people, pain inside, even the whole entire universe.

All of which can be argued to the theory of evolution.As to your pain, and its miraculous relief at the hands of God,people who suffer from stress don't suffer from it for ever.Usually,it's a passing phase that you learn to deal with.One of the most common ways of dealing with stress is to find a hobby.If the church works for you as a hobby,congratulations.But please don't kid yourself that you came right as a result of divine intervention.There are too many sick believers out there for the healing theory to hold any water.

I know this is the internet and all, but can you REALLY listen to someone who calls himself "CRAPMASTER4000". It sounds like some sort of kitty litter product.

The name is a joke but when I talk about God, im serous. In real life im a pretty goofy guy but when it comes to God I dont screw around and play games with that. Its just too important to joke around about when you are talking about where you are going to go when you die. Thats the question that everyone has to ask theirselves and you cant escape it. Where are you going to go when you die?

Hey, crap,
we all get one chance at life. It's the one you are living right now. When you die, you rot in a box. Can you remember anything before you were born? No? Well, its the same after you die. Nothing.
The person that you are is the sum total of all your thoughts and experiences, all the connections in your brain. They just vanish when all electrochemical activity in your brain ceases to exist, shortly after death.
The notion of life after death is an ancient one the Christianity has borrowed from many older religions, (The Greeks, Romans, Etruscans, Egyptians, Phoenecians) There cultures used the notion of life after death as a means of controlling the population. I am sure such notions were popular among the people since life was short and brutal back then. The thought of a better afterlife was tempting.
Crap, think for yourself. Study theology for real, not the nonsense spouted from the pulipt. Study the historical nature of Christianity, Islam and Judiasm. Ask yourself, how did these institutions develop. Then you MIGHT have the start of your answer.
And you will be a better man for it.

I am not scared of dying.When I die,my brain will cease to receive oxygen,and cease to function.After that,my body will be surplus to requirements,an inanimate lump of decaying flesh.The practical thing to do would be to cremate me as quickly as possible.I've already given instructions for my ashes to be scattered on my favorite mountain,so that those who wish to remember me can enjoy the place as I have done.
When my brain dies,my thoughts,my memories,my attitude,and my personality will die with it.There is no afterlife,when you die ,that's it.Over,finished,kaput.Only those who are tired of living or scared of dying cling to the notion that there's a better place to go to.

Im sorry to tell you this but im not tired of living, I enjoy every day as if it were my last. But when you die there has to be an afterlife, how could we have all this and no afterlife. Its just not possible! When you die, you lose all brain activity because your soul leaves your body. You either go to be in glory in heaven, or you go to be in eternal anguish in hell, no other options. You have to be accountable for your actions on earth because when you die, God is going to hold you accountable for how you spent your time on earth.

Im sorry to tell you this but im not tired of living, I enjoy every day as if it were my last. But when you die there has to be an afterlife, how could we have all this and no afterlife. Its just not possible!

Of course it's possible.Because it's what happens.As to your theories on the soul and heaven,can you provide one single shred of evidence that either exists?If so,you are onto a fortune because nobody in the history of mankind has ever found any.

You are welcome to your beliefs,but that is all they are.Beliefs,conjecture,supposition,and second-hand thoughts cobbled together into a book.

Everybody has a soul, its what looks for more out of life. And to say that you dont have a soul is to say that you arent human and you arent anybetter than an animal.

When you die, there has to be an after life. I mean really! There has to be! Why wouldn't there be? :D

Hello! We ARE ANIMALS. We are NOT any better.

We are people, God gave us the breath of life when he created Adam so therefore We are better than animals and that is also the reason we have a soul. It says it in Genesis.

Ok your right about SOME of that, Oz it sounds like youve never grew up in a small town really dont know what its like. I grew up in a church and have gone to church all my life. That dosent mean that ive always loved God. I used to hate God and never wanted to go to church, but that changed last year when I realized what I was doing was retarded and I always went threw every day feeling like crap. This went on for many years but finnialy it had to be stopped. And this "christian crap" is real and theres no way you cant say its not, theres too much scientific evidence to say that God is real. A recent scientific survey showed that 95% of scientists believe there is a God even. And to say that Gods not real is just a bunch of crap. If you want to see some evidence that Gods real in the bible, read the book of revelations compare it to whats going on today.

Was that survey taken at the Christian Scientists' Convention? There isnt any scientific evidence of whether God exists or not....its just what you believe. I believe in God, I just dont think it has been a proven fact that he exists. Hindu scientists would probably say that God doesnt exist. But like I said, its what you believe.

Did Adam have a belly button then?

We are people, God gave us the breath of life when he created Adam so therefore We are better than animals and that is also the reason we have a soul. It says it in Genesis.

Will you please stop quoting from your favorite book as if it were a record of all known facts?Thjere's no proof that this guy Adam ever existed,let alone majically appeared out of thin air one day.

If that's what you have been told,and you choose to believe it,fine.But bear this in mind - A long time ago,Iwas told of some mystic,all powerfull,physics-defying guy.He was capable of the impossible,and he would be very good to me if I believed in him and was good.Of course,Iwanted to believe in him,and when one morning Iwoke up to a big pile of good stuff that fitted in with the tale,Iwas convinced.It had to be true!What other explanation could there possibly be?The legends were true!

That mythical man was Santa Claus,and for a while,I believed in him,when people started to ask questions like,"how does he visit every house in the world in one night?" and"How can he possibly fit all those toys in one sleigh pulled by flying reindeer?",I could see the logic in the questions,but refused to stop believing because I was frightened that the toys would stop coming.


And that,it would seem,is where crapmaster is with his fantasy.All of the evidence points to the bible being just a bunch of made up stuff,exaggerations and hocus-pocus,but he seems frightened to face facts because he would lose something in the process.If you want to continue believing in the bible even though you are probably old enough and smart enough to see the inconsistencies,by all means do,but you will be bitterly disappointed in later life.I'd suggest that your death would come as a great dissapointment to you too,but it won't.You will not be aware of it,as your brain will have shut down,and your soul is nothing but a theological invention.Like every other carbon -based life form on this planet,it all stops when you die.If you wan't to believe in a god,or an afterlife,you may as well continue to believe in Santa as well.The level of evidence for the existence of either is about the same.

I think you come from a conservative background, probably a small country town somewhere in the US bible belt. You blindly accept every load of Christian Crap that gets stuffed down your throat at home, school and around general community.

When you have enough life experience and maturity to be independant in both thought and action, you will be able to have a more balanced opinion that I respect more than the blind rhetoric you are currently spouting.

:)

That's what I think.

I grew up in Flint Mi. and spent most of my weekends in clubs in Detroit from the time I turned 18 until I was 25. I have plenty of life experience and maturity to be independant in both thought and action Yet I am now a Christian..How do you explain that?

Why are people asking for proof that God exists. There is absolutely no proof that God exists. If there was, they wouldn't call it FAITH. This is part of the reason I don't believe in any organized religion. You will only meet God and know he exists when you die. And whatever type of person you were on earth he will choose an afterlife for you. People know when they are good and when they're bad. Be a good person and you will get rewarded, be bad and, well, only God knows that.

I grew up in Flint Mi. and spent most of my weekends in clubs in Detroit from the time I turned 18 until I was 25. I have plenty of life experience and maturity to be independant in both thought and action Yet I am now a Christian..How do you explain that?
I would explain that quite easily - I wasn't adressing you with that post. But your own written commncation on this forum displays a distinct lack of insight and objectivity.

Hey blindside, do you reaize that your little band is a christian band. Maybe the next time you listen to the lyrics you should think of their meaning. Trust me you will hear something a little different than what you are used to.

Ever notice how people always turn their life over to god when things get so screwed up they can't deal with it anymore?They never seem to do it right after winning the lottery.Or dating a supermodel.

Heard that once in a comedy routine.Seems fairly accurate to me

People have a false sence of I can do anything, I control my life. But once you get off that high of i.e. winning the lottery, your world comes down and the stress starts to get to you. You finnaly realize that you cant do it alone and God is always waiting for you. We get this idea that there is no God but he is always waiting for you to realize he is real.

Hey blindside, do you reaize that your little band is a christian band. Maybe the next time you listen to the lyrics you should think of their meaning. Trust me you will hear something a little different than what you are used to.

Yes, I am very aware of the meanings they sing about. Guess what, I also listen to P.O.D.. That doesn't mean I have to believe in organized religion. They sing of things all religions and beliefs can relate too.

Ever notice how people always turn their life over to god when things get so screwed up they can't deal with it anymore?They never seem to do it right after winning the lottery.Or dating a supermodel.

Heard that once in a comedy routine.Seems fairly accurate to me

I've noticed that when things are bad people tend to blame God for them. But when good things happen to them, it's all because THEY made the right decision.

Damn right. Action > consequence > responsibility.

I've noticed that when things are bad people tend to blame God for them. But when good things happen to them, it's all because THEY made the right decision.

I've noticed when things are bad people tend to blame miscellaneous crap. But when good things happen to them, it's because GOD made it happen.

But your own written commncation on this forum displays a distinct lack of insight and objectivity.

Ditto.

Ever notice how people always turn their life over to god when things get so screwed up they can't deal with it anymore?They never seem to do it right after winning the lottery.Or dating a supermodel.

Heard that once in a comedy routine.Seems fairly accurate to me

Odd....I turned mine over to Christ when things were going great. I just had my son and got a new job that nearly tripled my income and I just bought a new home in a very upscale neighborhood.

Yeah...those were rough times.

Well it was different for me, I realized that because I wasnt living for God, my life was getting crappier and crappier. The moment my life was turned over to Jesus, All my pain and suffering went away and never came back. And to say its just a crutch, in a way it is. Because if you arent living for Jesus, in a way you are saying that you can do everything on your own and that you are better than God. You cant say thats normal because all of your pain in an instant going away is the work of God coming into your life and drastically changing it to do his will. But that means you still have free will and choice to do whatever you want but if you want to be happy, you will do Gods will.

Well it was different for me, I realized that because I wasnt living for God, my life was getting crappier and crappier. The moment my life was turned over to Jesus, All my pain and suffering went away and never came back. And to say its just a crutch, in a way it is. Because if you arent living for Jesus, in a way you are saying that you can do everything on your own and that you are better than God. You cant say thats normal because all of your pain in an instant going away is the work of God coming into your life and drastically changing it to do his will. But that means you still have free will and choice to do whatever you want but if you want to be happy, you will do Gods will.
I disagree.

PS
This is fun :lol2:

I am astounded at the sheer arrogagance of religious people who believe they have the entire meaning of life and the universe figured out just because they believe their own Jedeo-Christian fairytale.

I do not believe in any God. I believe in the laws of physics (astro, atomic and otherwise), chemistry and in the process of scientific discovery. This is real to me because it is the sum total of all the education and experience of thousands of people far brighter than me, over thousands of years. Furthermore, the scientific principle is flexible. New information comes around and old theories are disproven.

Religion is the opposite. It is rigid, inflexible and dogmatic. There are countless examples of religious dictum and lessons that have been proven to be WRONG. Why did the Vatican excommunicate Gallileo?? Because his findings proved the church was WRONG. We know what he said about the fundamentals of the solar system were right.

Do you know how many religious leaders have sought to calculate Judgement Day in the last 1500 years? Thousands!! Well, I am still here and so are you, so what were they?? WRONG!!

If it were up to religions to run our lives, we would still be living in primitive feudal conditions, allowing religion to take every decision for us. The life saving medical and sanitary conditions we have today, our sophisticated democratic society we enjoy today would not exist.

If you have a life threatening medical condition, will you pray to God, or will you hustle over to a hospital and let science save you?
I thought so.

Do not kid yourselves. Religions have proven themselves to have, over the last few thousands of years, the worst dictatorships, to rival those of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

When my life goes right or wrong, it is due to my decisions and the circumstances in which I live. I will never blame God for them I will never look to God for assistance, because I know God does not exist.

(Now that is off my chest, I feel much better :)

Who said anything about blaming God, God is our father and when he punishes us, we dont blame God because we have this thing called accountability. We blame ourselves because we did something wrong and the reason God punishes us is to bring us back into him. That is the only way America is going to survive is by coming back to Jesus and admitting we were wrong.

LOL. If he punishes us it brings us closer to him? I'm sorry but when war kills people, it doesn't bring me closer to god.

BTW if he did create everything and there is evil in this world, then does it mean he created evil?

MagicRat you rule.

Yes it does mean that he created evil, he allows evil into the world to test the church and see if they can withstand the temptations of the devil. Thats the whole reason we have free will, he wants to see if we are loyal to our creator.

If he created evil then, that would make him not perfect because he is all good no?

How does that make him not perfect, he created evil but that dosent mean that he is. If you create something, what youve created dosent factor into whether you are a good person or not, i.e. a art drawing.

I still think Dogma was a good movie

So what you're saying(well some of you) is basically that god is this supreme,all creating being that's BORED and produces evil as a test to see what happens?That would make us what,like lab rats,to see what we'll do to get the cheese(get to heaven?)

And that the act of giving a loved,6 year old boy a brain tumor,making him suffer through hell and then finally taking him away from a family that cherished him before he's seven,that's what,another test to see how humans respond to loss?What a load of horseshit

If there is a god,he sounds like a bored scientist getting his jollies by screwing with us

not a nice way to be,and certainly not a sign of a "supreme" being

Yeah I don't like him, I think he's an ass. :)

i really dont know if you all should be here or in the stress release forum. but ne way i feel the god might have gave a 7 year old boy a brain tumor to test the family to see how they can handle problems also maybe that boy had such a great spirit that god wanted him back in his presence. but what most of you are trying to do to me seems like sticking to your own beliefs and not studing the other persons side which would probably be easier then saying god live s in the trees and the ground and mountains or saying since you cant remember before death there probably will not be an afterlife either.
for that matter i have not seen any evidence proveing one way of the creation of man over the other such as big bang vs god or monkey vs space aliens from another planet

i dont believe in god, but there must be "souls" because i have proof that ghosts exist. (and its not from "true ghost stories" books) and i dont believe in god because god screws up my mind. if he was so good he wouldnt make me lose my train of thought on the biggest question in my maths exam because i suddenly got confused whether god exists or not.. so it just says im scared of hell eh?

when you die you just see black, or you dont even see. how do you explain the times when you sleep and dont have any dreams? however this theory clashes with my "soul" theory.. and now i am confused. see all this stuff makes my brain jam up :eek:

holy crap 4000 you sound like a crazed christain extremist

I think everyone just learned something from your post raysoh8. :lol:

I think its funny how I can hear the same comment from 40 different people and say that they are giving a good stand for why God isnt real. You have no proof and try to say the same exact thing in a different wording. Its actually kind of pathetic.

Yeah I don't like him, I think he's an ass. :)
Do you even like you own parents? It sounds to me like you dont want to live.

I think its funny how I can hear the same comment from 40 different people and say that they are giving a good stand for why God isnt real. You have no proof and try to say the same exact thing in a different wording. Its actually kind of pathetic.

Don't worry about it man. They're turning a blind eye to the one thing that can make their lives pure and happy, and their death meaningful.

I know where I'm going when I die. While I'm scared of leaving my family,friends, other people I know, and my great life, I am not scared of living in hell forever. Because I know I won't be there.

Do people turn to God during times of distress? Yes. But why do people turn to God during times of euphoria to ask for humbleness and serenity? Why did I turn to God after my great accomplishments and give him the glory? Because he deserves it. He made me what I am today and he will continue to shape my life.

How do you guys explain the curtain to the temple ripping and the earthquake when Jesus died?

This verse sums up why why my belief is strong......

Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we cannot see.
Hebrews 11:1

Do you even like you own parents? It sounds to me like you dont want to live.
LMFAO :lol2: :lol: :cwm27: :rofl:

Do you even like the opposite sex? It sounds to me like you never saw a vagina.

LMFAO :lol2: :lol: :cwm27: :rofl:

Do you even like the opposite sex? It sounds to me like you never saw a vagina.
Homosexuality is a sin, God even destroyed the city of sodom because of it too. Now why would I want to do something that evil to my body?

I'm not talking about homosexuality... but if you're gay I'm OK with that...

You said that I didnt like girls, if you say I dont like girls then you are saying that I like guys. Like I said, homosexuality is a sin, a great sin that is destroying America today. And by the way, I like girls. Very, very much.

I did not say you didn't like girls. I simply said you never saw a vagina. I think you should... :)

Ill see a vagina the night I marry my wife. Untill then there is no need to even though it should give me some amout of pleasure to the flesh, it will give me great pain to discrace my body and my God.

And by the way, once I do have my wife and were married. Were gonna make up for alot of time we never had sex. :smile:

That's cool. When you meet your wife, ask her if I was better. :evillol::evillol::evillol: