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taranaki
01-05-2004, 10:11 PM
And by the way, once I do have my wife and were married. Were gonna make up for alot of time we never had sex. :smile:
Is that before or after you start your own televangelism channel?
Really,you have spouted every cliche in the sermon book :rolleyes:
You probably think that singing and dancing are sinful as well :disappoin
Is that before or after you start your own televangelism channel?
Really,you have spouted every cliche in the sermon book :rolleyes:
You probably think that singing and dancing are sinful as well :disappoin
MagicRat
01-05-2004, 10:39 PM
So much for intellectual theological discussion.....
We athiests have a problem in discussing religion with the religious. We believe in logic and the logical argument. Unfortunately, the religious believe in mystical fairytales and actually have the audacity to hold up fantastic tales of fiction from a book as proof that God exists.
We cannot use a logical argument against those whose fundamental principles are founded in illogic.
We athiests have a problem in discussing religion with the religious. We believe in logic and the logical argument. Unfortunately, the religious believe in mystical fairytales and actually have the audacity to hold up fantastic tales of fiction from a book as proof that God exists.
We cannot use a logical argument against those whose fundamental principles are founded in illogic.
crapmaster4000
01-05-2004, 10:49 PM
Oh so theres a sermon book, if you know where to buy the sermon book please tell me where to pick one up since I know some other people that would like one too. :eek7:
MBTN
01-05-2004, 11:14 PM
Damn MagicRat, I never thought of that. I think in logic, they don't! How silly of me to think logically based on fact! I'm tho thilly :)
Oz
01-06-2004, 12:01 AM
Oh so theres a sermon book, if you know where to buy the sermon book please tell me where to pick one up since I know some other people that would like one too. :eek7:
:rolleyes: Beleive us, you don't need one.
:rolleyes: Beleive us, you don't need one.
MBTN
01-06-2004, 12:08 AM
:lol2:
raysoh8
01-06-2004, 07:07 AM
Ill see a vagina the night I marry my wife. Untill then there is no need to even though it should give me some amout of pleasure to the flesh, it will give me great pain to discrace my body and my God.
:eek7: you scare me.
and btw, talk about pot calling the kettle black.. you sound like a brainwashed numbskull who was forced to learn all this "holy" stuff with a chain round your neck when you were a boy.
:eek7: you scare me.
and btw, talk about pot calling the kettle black.. you sound like a brainwashed numbskull who was forced to learn all this "holy" stuff with a chain round your neck when you were a boy.
DGB454
01-06-2004, 12:06 PM
MBTN, OZ , Taranaki.
I haven't looked at your profiles but I'm guessing you guys are about 12 to 15 yrs old. That's just a guess so if I'm off by a few years I appoligize.
The reason I'm guessing those ages is the way you go about trying to prove your points. It always comes down to name calling and trying to be little someone.
Grow up a little.
Please
I haven't looked at your profiles but I'm guessing you guys are about 12 to 15 yrs old. That's just a guess so if I'm off by a few years I appoligize.
The reason I'm guessing those ages is the way you go about trying to prove your points. It always comes down to name calling and trying to be little someone.
Grow up a little.
Please
MBTN
01-06-2004, 12:09 PM
LOL the last ditch effort of saying "grow up..."
Marvelous.
Marvelous.
DGB454
01-06-2004, 12:18 PM
:rolleyes:...
MBTN
01-06-2004, 12:53 PM
Just what I was thinking...
integra818
01-06-2004, 01:19 PM
Crapster4000, if thinking sexual thoughts is a sin...what are you gonna think about when you're having sex???
MBTN
01-06-2004, 03:54 PM
No wonder they used to get married at age 14 back in the day...
Oz
01-06-2004, 06:12 PM
MBTN, OZ , Taranaki.
I haven't looked at your profiles but I'm guessing you guys are about 12 to 15 yrs old. That's just a guess so if I'm off by a few years I appoligize.
The reason I'm guessing those ages is the way you go about trying to prove your points. It always comes down to name calling and trying to be little someone.
Grow up a little.
Please
Couldn't be further off buddy. Try 20-45.
I haven't looked at your profiles but I'm guessing you guys are about 12 to 15 yrs old. That's just a guess so if I'm off by a few years I appoligize.
The reason I'm guessing those ages is the way you go about trying to prove your points. It always comes down to name calling and trying to be little someone.
Grow up a little.
Please
Couldn't be further off buddy. Try 20-45.
Pick
01-06-2004, 07:00 PM
Couldn't be further off buddy. Try 20-45.
I think he's hinting that you are immature. :iagree:
I think he's hinting that you are immature. :iagree:
MBTN
01-06-2004, 07:50 PM
MagicRat
01-06-2004, 09:01 PM
Okee dokee....
Its late on Tues evening...........
I am primed for a theological argument..........
I have had some coffee so I can stay awake during the sermons on this thread..........
I have my bottle of imported french Napoleon brandy, to dull my emotions so I don't strangle the sh*t out of the irritating pro religious zealots out there............
And where is Crapmaster???????????
Hey, if there is no irrational argument.....why did I bother to log on?????
(hmmm....liquored up for nothing......... :)
Its late on Tues evening...........
I am primed for a theological argument..........
I have had some coffee so I can stay awake during the sermons on this thread..........
I have my bottle of imported french Napoleon brandy, to dull my emotions so I don't strangle the sh*t out of the irritating pro religious zealots out there............
And where is Crapmaster???????????
Hey, if there is no irrational argument.....why did I bother to log on?????
(hmmm....liquored up for nothing......... :)
Oz
01-06-2004, 09:34 PM
I think he's hinting that you are immature. :iagree:
Based on what? A difference of opinions? Once again your argument fails so miserably you are reduced to petty name calling. How sad.
Based on what? A difference of opinions? Once again your argument fails so miserably you are reduced to petty name calling. How sad.
crapmaster4000
01-06-2004, 10:24 PM
Crapster4000, if thinking sexual thoughts is a sin...what are you gonna think about when you're having sex???
Thinking sexual thoughts isnt a sin when your married, its lusting after someone thats a sin.
Thinking sexual thoughts isnt a sin when your married, its lusting after someone thats a sin.
MBTN
01-06-2004, 10:30 PM
What if you love someone but aren't married. Is that a sin?
crapmaster4000
01-06-2004, 10:43 PM
Yes because you must be married to have sex. Marriage is an instutition ordained by God for a MAN AND HIS WIFE to have sex and be blessed by him for doing his will. Virginity is a gift for your wife Its kind of like a present, when you open your christmas packages you dont want one that has a bunch of tears in the paper and stuff, you want one that is cleanly wrapped and without tears. And when two people get together in this act, its a beautiful act in the name of Jesus.
MBTN
01-06-2004, 10:45 PM
That means like 99% of the worlds population is going to hell then...
As for the analogy with the christmas presents that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. You'd judge the gift based upon how it's wrapped?
As for the analogy with the christmas presents that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. You'd judge the gift based upon how it's wrapped?
integra818
01-06-2004, 10:46 PM
So you're saying you can't love someone until you marry them??? Otherwise it's a sin???
MBTN
01-06-2004, 10:53 PM
Pretty much!!! Funny ain't it!
crapmaster4000
01-06-2004, 11:01 PM
There is a difference between loving someone and lusting someone. When you truly love someone you will wait for your marriage to show them your most intimate part of your body.
Oz
01-06-2004, 11:06 PM
Yes because you must be married to have sex. Marriage is an instutition ordained by God for a MAN AND HIS WIFE to have sex and be blessed by him for doing his will. Virginity is a gift for your wife Its kind of like a present, when you open your christmas packages you dont want one that has a bunch of tears in the paper and stuff, you want one that is cleanly wrapped and without tears. And when two people get together in this act, its a beautiful act in the name of Jesus.
:lol2:
That's like going to play the biggest game of your life (whatever sport) without even stretching - let alone training. Whereas my theory is train as much as possible to get you ready for the event and I'll be in peak condition.
:lol2:
That's like going to play the biggest game of your life (whatever sport) without even stretching - let alone training. Whereas my theory is train as much as possible to get you ready for the event and I'll be in peak condition.
integra818
01-06-2004, 11:09 PM
There is a difference between loving someone and lusting someone. When you truly love someone you will wait for your marriage to show them your most intimate part of your body.
Love, lust, all has to do with sex if you're talking about someone outside your family right? You would'nt love someone that you're not sexually interested in.
You said that god is testing us right? So is Santa, he is testing all of us to see if we are good little boys and girls. If we're good, we get gifts, if we're bad, we get coal. If we're good to god, we get to go to a place that's perfect, if not we got to an awful place. Has a connection does'nt it?
Honestly, I don't really care about this thread, it's not my sole purpose of life or anything. I'm toggling between this and porn.
Love, lust, all has to do with sex if you're talking about someone outside your family right? You would'nt love someone that you're not sexually interested in.
You said that god is testing us right? So is Santa, he is testing all of us to see if we are good little boys and girls. If we're good, we get gifts, if we're bad, we get coal. If we're good to god, we get to go to a place that's perfect, if not we got to an awful place. Has a connection does'nt it?
Honestly, I don't really care about this thread, it's not my sole purpose of life or anything. I'm toggling between this and porn.
crapmaster4000
01-06-2004, 11:14 PM
Your marriage isnt a sex marathon, its to show God is in your life and he is in control. Also to raise a God fearing famliy. If you have already had sex with your new wife before marrage, whats the point of your wedding night? Obviously its not to celebrate the new covenant of you and your wife in Jesus. When you have sex with someone you connect in a way you never have before. But if you give that up, its a sad thing when you waiste your blessings on sinful natur.
integra818
01-06-2004, 11:16 PM
If you have already had sex with your new wife before marrage, whats the point of your wedding night? .
More sex.
More sex.
MBTN
01-06-2004, 11:17 PM
"its to show God is in your life and he is in control. Also to raise a God fearing famliy."
Then what the EFF is free will if we aren't in control of our own lives? And why the hell would we fear something that is 100% good?
WOW. Two more contradictions!
Then what the EFF is free will if we aren't in control of our own lives? And why the hell would we fear something that is 100% good?
WOW. Two more contradictions!
crapmaster4000
01-06-2004, 11:18 PM
Just for something to think about, porn is the main thing that drove Ted Bundy to become as psychotic as he did. His addiction started out with little stuff but as he got older, his addiction got worse where he started raping girls and killing them and stuff. Now look where hes at!
integra818
01-06-2004, 11:20 PM
Just for something to think about, porn is the main thing that drove Ted Bundy to become as psychotic as he did. His addiction started out with little stuff but as he got older, his addiction got worse where he started raping girls and killing them and stuff. Now look where hes at!
So you're saying if I look at porn then I'm gonna become a rapist?
Crapster4000, if I get a petition sigend by at least 100 people on this board, will you change your screen-name to Ned Flanders?
So you're saying if I look at porn then I'm gonna become a rapist?
Crapster4000, if I get a petition sigend by at least 100 people on this board, will you change your screen-name to Ned Flanders?
crapmaster4000
01-06-2004, 11:23 PM
LOL, goodnight!!!!!
MBTN
01-06-2004, 11:47 PM
0wn3d!!
Oz
01-06-2004, 11:49 PM
1. Porn creates serial killers, or serial killers view porn? It's the same argument as Asians are bad drivers VS bad drivers are commonly Asian. See the HUGE and IMPORTANT difference in the statements?
2. "God Fearing" You're supposed to be afraid of him exactly WHY?
:confused:
2. "God Fearing" You're supposed to be afraid of him exactly WHY?
:confused:
MagicRat
01-06-2004, 11:54 PM
What, hey?
HEY!!
You mean Crapmeister was here and I missed the argument???
Jesus Christ!!
I mean, gosh darn it!!
I always miss all the fun......
HEY!!
You mean Crapmeister was here and I missed the argument???
Jesus Christ!!
I mean, gosh darn it!!
I always miss all the fun......
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