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slave
01-01-2004, 07:27 AM
My friend and I were recently alking and she said "You are one of those people who was born with a set purpose in life." This purpose apparently is to take care of girls, usually from good families, very good families, who have had losers, nearly all male, (yes, the imagination is allowed to run wild here as to what happens) who have tried to take any happiness and decency these girls have. Yet, after all of it they STILL have the most pure hearts, and I find myself SO often, trying with yet another girl, to get their smiles back, their chins up, the inner beauty to shine once more, and that heart to stop fearing life itself. I seem to always have a girl like this, so, is it true, can you be born for a sole purpose towards humanity??

Steel
01-01-2004, 12:03 PM
Girls suck. They're evil heartbreakers that are messed up in the head one way or another.

Anyway, i belive our only purpose is to live. It's all our own choices after that.

MBTN
01-01-2004, 12:10 PM
Our purpose is to be miserable.

jon@af
01-01-2004, 12:12 PM
I dont know, I like to think that everyone has a purpose when they are born; I have sadly yet to really find mine.

TexasF355F1
01-01-2004, 12:17 PM
I dont know, I like to think that everyone has a purpose when they are born; I have sadly yet to really find mine.
:iamwithst

chicago_guy
01-01-2004, 12:21 PM
I believe that we are born for a purpose. I already know what mine is, but I dont really like it....I have an uncanny ability to help people with their problems. Usually I help girls with their problems, whether it involves a guy or their weight or whatever. But Im rather good at it...although my strength is also my weakness. Since girls know that they can talk to me about their problems, they only think of me as a friend, and that I could be nothing more than that. It really sucks for me, because I keep trying to get a gf, but I cant stop helping them with their problems....and why do I do this? Because Im Schmuck Man!

Cl0ak
01-01-2004, 01:01 PM
Become a guidance counselor, than you can have 14 year old girls crying on you in the office about their boyfriends, and than you can be sued for sexual harassment because you patted her on the back.

chicago_guy
01-01-2004, 01:11 PM
Fuck that....theres no way in hell Im going to work in a school when Im older....God knows Iv spent too much time in them as it is. Did I mention that I dont like my purpose?

Oz
01-01-2004, 03:05 PM
Everyone's Purpose - to breed. Simple as that.

2strokebloke
01-01-2004, 04:16 PM
Actually, my purpose in life is to beat my friends high scores at pinball. Once that is accomplished I'll think of another purpose for my life.

Some thoughts about Slaves purpose:

My friend and I were recently alking and she said "You are one of those people who was born with a set purpose in life." This purpose apparently is to take care of girls, usually from good families, very good families, who have had losers, nearly all male, (yes, the imagination is allowed to run wild here as to what happens) who have tried to take any happiness and decency these girls have.
Many girls believe all men are like this, even if it's just because she didn't get what she wanted for her birthday. One thing you learn, is that girls don't like being wrong, so whenever possible they usually try to blame somebody/something else, whether it be a man, dog, tree, etc. :biggrin:
Just be careful trying to cheer them up, one wrong move you could easily be known to them as some sort of scumbag male, who doesn't want them to be happy.

As for Oz, you don't think that's all there is do you? If so shouldn't we only succeed once, and then die promptly... our purpose having been fufilled? Just like a tissue that has been wiped against one's nose, and discarded into the trash, having fufilled it's purpose in life?

Oz
01-01-2004, 04:33 PM
Pretty much. The base purpose of life is to procreate.

slave
01-01-2004, 11:23 PM
OZ, thats bullshit, I worked in RADAR, that means they dont want me to breed, ha ha ha.

crapmaster4000
01-02-2004, 01:04 AM
Cant people see the real purpose in life, its to serve god. If you try to save your life you end up losin it, but when you give your life to god, you save it. But now of days, the liberals and all thier bullshit have let everybody know that there is no god or absolute truth. Our society was better back in the day when god ruled the family and not now where everybody loves individualism and only loving thierselves. If I only love myself, only one person loves me. But if everybody loves another, everyone loves you. But the liberals have decided thats not good, so they run the media and want to tell you to love yourself only. So now everybodys running around screwing the first thing they see and then, they wonder why they dont feel loved.

Im sorry if I pissed anybody off but, I think I felt like I should give some of my :2cents: worth.

Steel
01-02-2004, 01:19 AM
But I don't believe in god. So now what?

accent gsi
01-02-2004, 01:21 AM
just to be happy whithout hurting others..., taking our decisions by our own...

funny thing,
the words behind are even "pointed" as our job-to-do in the bible, if you want to see it in a religious way (check the new part or "nuevo testamento", after Jesus born - had to said it in english, im a native spanish speaker!!!)

there some things were we do a great performance, but all those stuffs are only abilitys, they can guide but they're not our goal...

well......


mmm.,

ja ja

dawn im mad...

im getting off..

ya

accent gsi
01-02-2004, 01:22 AM
well,

try a "manual",
you'll find yourself screaming "Oh god, oh god"

after that we talk...

accent gsi

>God loves me, me too.

crapmaster4000
01-02-2004, 01:33 AM
what are you talking about?

crapmaster4000
01-02-2004, 01:37 AM
well steel, im going to bed right now but the only thing im going to say is that you need God. Once you have him in your life, you feel like a new person, you have meaning and purpose. Everything that seemed like crap seems so fresh and a new. I wouldnt want anything other than Jesus in my life. Its just amazing!

accent gsi
01-02-2004, 01:47 AM
man, its just a joke.

watch out your word "liberal",
hope it doesn't means "own mind users" only.

see ya,

Oz
01-02-2004, 01:51 AM
Cant people see the real purpose in life, its to serve god. If you try to save your life you end up losin it, but when you give your life to god, you save it. But now of days, the liberals and all thier bullshit have let everybody know that there is no god or absolute truth. Our society was better back in the day when god ruled the family and not now where everybody loves individualism and only loving thierselves. If I only love myself, only one person loves me. But if everybody loves another, everyone loves you. But the liberals have decided thats not good, so they run the media and want to tell you to love yourself only. So now everybodys running around screwing the first thing they see and then, they wonder why they dont feel loved.

Im sorry if I pissed anybody off but, I think I felt like I should give some of my :2cents: worth.
:lol2:

Can't see the forest from the trees.

Oz
01-02-2004, 01:52 AM
When you realise that your mind is strong enough to survive without this pathetic notion of 'God', you'll not only be a happier person, you'll be much closer to realising your own potential.

slave
01-02-2004, 01:58 AM
But oz, god gives so many people an excuse to lead sad lives and do shit without remorse because, "he forgives all." By the way, if he truly DOES forgive all, why the fuck do we need to follow the ten commandments?

MBTN
01-02-2004, 02:11 AM
LOL! I LOVE these threads.

If we are all gods children, then why is Jesus so special? :grinno:

"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!" - Conan The Barbarian

taranaki
01-02-2004, 05:10 AM
There is no God.

We have evolved to the peak of our physical condition,and beyond.Obesity was virtually unheard of until about 50 years ago.Now it is sweeping the 'civilised' world.Our brains are so preoccupied with known facts and trivia that we have lost a considerable portion of our ability to think freely.We let a few greedy and influential people do the thinking for us,and a few corporations develop universal equipment to keep us from the ravages of nature.Our food comes off production lines,our hardware comes from faceless chainstores.We no longer have to spend our days hunting,gathering,and farming,we sit around getting fatter and doing less.We are having smaller familes,and spending less time with them.Eventually,the machines that we devised to serve us will do all of our thinking for us.As these machines become more and more complex,we will be limited in our interaction with them to the simplest of operations.Hell,we don't even have to get out of our seat to change the T.V. channel,or open the garage door any more!But when the devices that control these luxuries for us fail,we are stuck.We can't get into the garage,and we can't watch T.V.The repair guy takes a quick look,and tells us it can't be fixed for less than the price of a new model - so we rack up some more debt to pay for a new item,which is more complex,more disposable,and smarter than we are.

Our purpose in life has become to provide labour in exchange for money to buy labour saving devices that the world has survived without for thousands of years.If we don't get off our butts and start making stuff again,instead of just being a small tooth in a large cog in a huge corporate machine,we will cease to have a function altogether.We will be so busy surrounding ourselves with technology that we won't have the time or money to repopulate the species.


The dinosaurs are extinct because one of them forgot the PIN number for his bankcard.

slave
01-02-2004, 06:50 AM
Does being told Im the reborn christ, but evil, dark, count towards god? lol. 2 gf's in a row, who had never met, and one strange woman have all said that. Freaky, they must do more drugs than oz does!!!

accent gsi
01-02-2004, 09:11 AM
ja ja ja ja,

some sadness with our economy?,
makes me scary, i should check my back for a price tag...

crapmaster4000
01-02-2004, 06:03 PM
Ok this is exactly waht time talking about, the liberals in this country have twisted everything around and nobodies happy. How can you say that you leave a better life when you get rid of a notion of a god, I felt like crap untill finnaly gave my life to God and now you try to tell me that i feel like crap. All I have to say is read the book or revelations and then try to tell me there is no God because whats happening in that book is starting to happen now and when you have to get the mark of the beast to buy or sell anything, you will know there is a God and he is the creator of the world.

WarPigs
01-02-2004, 06:41 PM
Cant people see the real purpose in life, its to serve god. If you try to save your life you end up losin it, but when you give your life to god, you save it. But now of days, the liberals and all thier bullshit have let everybody know that there is no god or absolute truth. Our society was better back in the day when god ruled the family and not now where everybody loves individualism and only loving thierselves. If I only love myself, only one person loves me. But if everybody loves another, everyone loves you. But the liberals have decided thats not good, so they run the media and want to tell you to love yourself only. So now everybodys running around screwing the first thing they see and then, they wonder why they dont feel loved.

Im sorry if I pissed anybody off but, I think I felt like I should give some of my :2cents: worth.

thats sad. when lifes to hard, I turn to BS fairy tale stories to make myself feel better. "i felt the lord with me that day, helping me, blah fkn blah"

I was rasied a baptist, but once I started to actually THINK, I kinda realised that it was just a waste of time believing in that crap.

"I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect that he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time"
-Isaac Asimov

MagicRat
01-02-2004, 10:08 PM
I am with War on this one. I enjoy theology as much as the next person, its a fascinating exploration of the human condition. But, organised religion is PROPEGANDA.

Now, if you have your own beliefs thats fine; its your own business and freedom of religion is a valued part of the Constitution.

However, when large organisations feed the masses copious amounts of unsubstabtiated fairytales about God and His instructions, they are doing so to control the hearts and minds of the population.

I feel sorry for people want to go along with this because they are either weak minded and cannot think for themselves, or are emotionally or psychologically vulnerable.

I resent organisations that take advantage of these people. whether its the Catholic church, the Moonies or Dr. Phil. What they do is not religion, it is mind control to benefit their organisation first and foremost.
If you want to believe in God, great. Believe in yourself and your own intellect. Do not let organised religion pollute your mind about your faith.

However, please do not lecture me on religion. I am just as likely to believe that any prayers of mine will be answered by Gandalf as by God.

DGB454
01-02-2004, 11:22 PM
I see a lot of people still have a huge misconception of religion. Religion is really what you make of it. Some people do get into the rules too much and "can't see the forest for the trees" and that's too bad for them. Religion is just the practice of what you believe in with others that are like minded. If you let it it's a great experience. Enter religion with your eyes opened an never take someones word for anything just because they are the leader. The pastor of the Christian church I belong to is a good man and I've seen over the years I have known him that he is a man of God . I trust him even though I don't always agree with him. Some people choose the wrong leader and that's what ultimately corrupts the church they belong to.

As far as Religious people being weak minded and cannot think for themselves then I have to say that's rubbish. I know too many extremely intelligent people who are religious and too many stupid, gullible people that aren't religious too believe that. That's a stereo type that simply isn't true. Of course there are some weak minded people involved in religion just as there are intelligent people who are not involved in religion. Stereo types are seldom completly accurate though.

Were we born for a purpose? Everyone should be able to answer that without worry of criticism from others. You decide what you were born for. No one else can decide for you. If you are a Christian then you probably believe as I do that you were born to do God's will(chances are it's going to be a lot more exciting than what I would have chosen.). If you are not a Christian then you have to decide what that purpose is. I hope it's a good one and you have fun doing it.

Ok enough preachy me. Time to do a little cruisin in the Chevelle. I saw a Mustang down the road from me I'm dying to show my tail lights to.

Oz
01-02-2004, 11:26 PM
Then answer me this - if the purpose of a Christin life is to serve God, and God is all knowing/seeing/powerful - why the hell does he need your help?

zebrathree
01-02-2004, 11:32 PM
Because hes too busy with all the virgins?

2of9
01-02-2004, 11:38 PM
watch the Matrix...they'll tell you...




hahahhahahahahhaha

Oz
01-02-2004, 11:38 PM
Nah, that'd make them more like minions than lemmings. I like the concept though.

MBTN
01-02-2004, 11:55 PM
Don't forget, he needs your money too!

crapmaster4000
01-03-2004, 12:27 AM
God dosent need out help, he just wants to see how his followers react to what he wants them to do. He could do it all himself but he just dosent want to. Its not like hes lazy, hes trying to test our faith by asking us to do what he wants.

MBTN
01-03-2004, 12:29 AM
Well that's stupid.

crapmaster4000
01-03-2004, 12:47 AM
Hows that stupid, wouldnt you like to know how deep of a commitment your wife has to you?

MBTN
01-03-2004, 12:51 AM
I'm 20, do you think I'm married? :)

taranaki
01-03-2004, 01:16 AM
Hows that stupid, wouldnt you like to know how deep of a commitment your wife has to you?


Thanks,but I'd rather not.I tend to believe in the old fashioned notion that marriage is a commitment for life,not something that needs to be tested once it is in place.I've been married to the first woman Iever loved,17 years so far,and like the vows say it's been for richer,for poorer,for better,for worse.If you ever start doubting your commitment,or her commitment,you didn't choose wisely in the first place.

crapmaster4000
01-03-2004, 01:26 AM
tanarki, isnt marrage like a big test of your commitment to your wife, thats what my point is in saying that god test his people to see thier commitment.

Oz
01-03-2004, 01:52 AM
How petty is that? Isn't that what we do to rats in labs? Doesn't sound like the actions of someone all knowing/seeing/mighty to me.

crapmaster4000
01-03-2004, 02:23 AM
That is discusting and not even close to the truth.

DGB454
01-03-2004, 05:38 AM
Then answer me this - if the purpose of a Christin life is to serve God, and God is all knowing/seeing/powerful - why the hell does he need your help?

I can give you a nice neat answer but I have a feeling that won't satisfy you.The best answer is the one you find yourself. If you really are curious to know and not just being argumentitive then the Bible is a great place to look. It has nothing to do with needing our help though. If you think about it what would he need our help for? He created everything. If we were so much trouble he needed our help then he would have known that ahead of time and not created.

slave
01-03-2004, 07:12 AM
Ok, now MR T, we must test our partners to be fair, go get man power and if your wife thinks theyre cute, then Im sorry, she's strayed, omg, why the fuck does somebody need to test a wife???

They've done that, its called dating!!!!

God to me is like green peace, wants ur money but wont help u sepcifically. Greenpeace hate me, why? Im military, oh my god, dont help PEOPLE< thats bad. Religion is the same, they ask me to care, but should my work hurt somebody to save others, thats bad...

btw, if god is all good, why do those fuckers who crash cars when drunk live and my Amy dies??? Thats a question for you. Now, remember, you be careful with this answer.

MBTN
01-03-2004, 11:09 AM
Well that' easy slave. It was the work of the DEVIL!!!!

Xv7vX
01-03-2004, 12:31 PM
I'm so sorry slave. That must be a horrible experience to go through.

If you want the answer, i have it, but you may not like it.
God created us with free will. We can make our own decisions in life. The decisions we make unfortunatly can have effects on others. For what is worth if you believe in God then we all also have to account for all of our decisions.
There are actual medical answers for why drunk people live and the inocent die. But God didn't pick anyone to die anymore than he could save someone from the same fate. It all realates back to free will. Since he gave us free will he cannot interfere with the choices all of us make.

MBTN
01-03-2004, 03:37 PM
Doesn't it say "Thy will be done"? Yeah, we got free will. Ultimately, God chooses our fate. That makes sense... :rolleyes:

DGB454
01-03-2004, 04:20 PM
"Thy will be done "was part of a prayer that Jesus prayed. He knew his time was close and he was praying for strength. He also asked that he didn't have to go through what he was about to go through even though he knew it was necessary. That's when he said "Not my will but thy will be done."
So if you are going to quote something please at least understand what you are quoting.

Xv7vX
01-03-2004, 04:25 PM
[QUOTE=MBTN]Doesn't it say "Thy will be done"?QUOTE]



Thy will be done referes to someones wilingness to acept what God wants us to do with our lives.

You shouldn't try to talk about something which you have no knowledge of. Although i can appreciate your effort. Your trying AWFULLY hard, arnt you? A for effort. Totally out of context.


Those of you out there who dont hate god or the idea of god, or gods can appreciate a debate on free will. I understand different views on fate, and free choice and free will, but some people on here seem to have a blatent hatred towards God or a god figure. Which is just as ignorant as a blinding belief of god.

MBTN
01-03-2004, 05:08 PM
LOL! Now tell me that 95% of scientists believe in god and we'll call it even! :D

DGB454
01-03-2004, 08:54 PM
I doubt that 95% believe in God but I'm sure the percentage is pretty close to those who aren't scientist that beleive in God.
Science doesn't require someone to abandon their beliefs.

chicago_guy
01-03-2004, 10:21 PM
I just realized something......there are two different threads that have been talking about the same thing recently.....about whether God exists....oh well, not that I care, just thought Id point that out.

And slave, Im sorry to hear about your friend Amy.....I have an answer for your question too....I know you miss her, but she is in a place better than this world now...and that drunk driver....well....when he dies, he is going to burn in Hell for the rest of eternity. I dont know if you like that answer or not, but thats what I think.

Oz
01-04-2004, 12:35 AM
I can give you a nice neat answer but I have a feeling that won't satisfy you.The best answer is the one you find yourself. If you really are curious to know and not just being argumentitive then the Bible is a great place to look. It has nothing to do with needing our help though. If you think about it what would he need our help for? He created everything. If we were so much trouble he needed our help then he would have known that ahead of time and not created.
So basically - you cannot answer me. And your one weak attempt at an answer requiers ME to BELIEVE that the bible is both truthful and accurate. :rolleyes:

crapmaster4000
01-04-2004, 12:42 AM
Now what I said is that 95% of scientists believe that there is a higher power, they dont truly accept Jesus christ as their lord and savior but what im saying is that they know it cant just be a bunch of crap getting together and creating all of this just by chance.

Oz
01-04-2004, 12:47 AM
SO really, 95% of them could beleive that nuclear power is a higher power. So now you're backtracking and trying to convince us you didn't deliberately mislead us. :rolleyes:

thepolishmafia1337
01-04-2004, 12:53 AM
Cant people see the real purpose in life, its to serve god. If you try to save your life you end up losin it, but when you give your life to god, you save it. But now of days, the liberals and all thier bullshit have let everybody know that there is no god or absolute truth. Our society was better back in the day when god ruled the family and not now where everybody loves individualism and only loving thierselves. If I only love myself, only one person loves me. But if everybody loves another, everyone loves you. But the liberals have decided thats not good, so they run the media and want to tell you to love yourself only. So now everybodys running around screwing the first thing they see and then, they wonder why they dont feel loved.

Im sorry if I pissed anybody off but, I think I felt like I should give some of my :2cents: worth.

dude you said it yourself. "the liberals and all thier bullshit have let everybody know that there is no god or absolute truth" so you don't believe in god either. if they let everybody know that they were believing in a lie then didnt they do us a favor. dont get me wrong i hate the liberals as much if not more than you do. and i thought u had a good argument up untill you contradicted your self. as for our purpose in life can be summed up in the movie full metal jacket. "ALL NON-HACKERS WILL DIE!!!!!!!!"

that was lame but it was the best thing i could think of

crapmaster4000
01-04-2004, 12:58 AM
Can you show me where i contradicted myself?

thepolishmafia1337
01-04-2004, 06:35 AM
Can you show me where i contradicted myself?
"But now of days, the liberals and all thier bullshit have let everybody know that there is no god or absolute truth."

that is directly from you because im too lazy to type it. you make it sound like they let the cat out of the bag or something. its like damn who let those idiots know that theres not really a god.(or even easier for some ppl). who let those idiots know that their MIGHT not be a god.
that part didn't fit with the rest of the love thy neighbor god crap. now that you brought my attention to contradicting thoughts. you said:
"But if everybody loves another, everyone loves you. But the liberals have decided thats not good, so they run the media and want to tell you to love yourself only. So now everybodys running around screwing the first thing they see and then, they wonder why they dont feel loved. "
how do you get loving your self mixed up with "screwing" the first thing "they" see???? if you love yourself enough you won't have too, (on two levels). if you love yourself, you have atleast invested some type of pride into the things that you are and strive to be, therefore flagrant activity is not something that a person like that would look for. instead someone who is insecure and has to rely on a book to tell himself/herself how to live their life would probably be one to faulter.(i.e. priest and alterboys need i say more)
look im not kickin you in the balls you believe what you want to. i thought that some of the stuff u said was right but when you go against your self it kinda bothers me i guess it doesnt really matter. im always up for a good debate. so if you want me to break down the rest of your first reply to something that has nothing to do with what we are talking about now just lemme know.

DGB454
01-04-2004, 09:03 AM
So basically - you cannot answer me. And your one weak attempt at an answer requiers ME to BELIEVE that the bible is both truthful and accurate. :rolleyes:
So basically you wouldn't believe anything I did tell you. I can't give you the answers you are asking because you aren't really looking for answers.
You are just looking to argue and run down anyone who doesn't believe like you. You are worse than a Jehovas witness. :rolleyes:

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