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Jay!
02-12-2004, 05:56 PM
Yeah, pretty much. Sorry if I laid it out kinda harsh, but there's really no way to sugar-coat it, especially now that it after the fact. :dunno:
If anything, a punch-to-the-gut approach is best to get one's point across to a man (e.g. a woman would never do it this way.) I wish someone had beat me over the head with this stuff 10 years ago.
I'm in a similar position as you were. I'm already married, but I haven't been a Challenge in a long time. In fact, if anything, I've been a negative Challenge, which is worse. I know my wife's interest level in me is lower than it used to be, and I'm desperate to put it back up where it belongs.
The thing is, for a guy in my position, even though these ideas bring an epiphany, I can't just "turn on" this system. One of the traits of a confident man is that he is consistent. So, I can't suddenly change my ways in front of my wife to become more of a Challenge without looking like I have no Confidence. So I must perform a very gradual change.
But whilst I work on myself, and my relationship, I can't help but share this stuff with any guy who will listen.
If anything, a punch-to-the-gut approach is best to get one's point across to a man (e.g. a woman would never do it this way.) I wish someone had beat me over the head with this stuff 10 years ago.
I'm in a similar position as you were. I'm already married, but I haven't been a Challenge in a long time. In fact, if anything, I've been a negative Challenge, which is worse. I know my wife's interest level in me is lower than it used to be, and I'm desperate to put it back up where it belongs.
The thing is, for a guy in my position, even though these ideas bring an epiphany, I can't just "turn on" this system. One of the traits of a confident man is that he is consistent. So, I can't suddenly change my ways in front of my wife to become more of a Challenge without looking like I have no Confidence. So I must perform a very gradual change.
But whilst I work on myself, and my relationship, I can't help but share this stuff with any guy who will listen.
Atomis27
02-12-2004, 07:14 PM
Well that's good then. My reading comprehension skills have not deserted me yet. :D
The in-your-face delivery style does get the point across quite well, and I wish too I'd known it long ago, but at least now I have plenty of spare time to re-tailor myself to match.
Truth be told, I'm going to tell women to take a flying fuck off a rolling log for awhile until I get to know myself again. I reckon one must know oneself before one can tell about it to others.
The in-your-face delivery style does get the point across quite well, and I wish too I'd known it long ago, but at least now I have plenty of spare time to re-tailor myself to match.
Truth be told, I'm going to tell women to take a flying fuck off a rolling log for awhile until I get to know myself again. I reckon one must know oneself before one can tell about it to others.
Jay!
02-12-2004, 07:27 PM
I reckon one must know oneself before one can tell about it to others.Agree completely. In the meantime, don't be a hermit. Get out and have fun with your friends. There's no reason not to meet women, just don't date them. Ironically, this will generally have the effect of making them more interested in you... :rolleyes:
Atomis27
02-13-2004, 08:25 AM
Been reading through some of "Doc Love's" responses to letters.
This guy seems to take the in-your-face approach too. I can see his points, though. "The System" does sound intriguing, but I'll probably hold off awhile until I decide to start dating again.
If nothing else, ol' Doc can provide good entertainment. :D
This guy seems to take the in-your-face approach too. I can see his points, though. "The System" does sound intriguing, but I'll probably hold off awhile until I decide to start dating again.
If nothing else, ol' Doc can provide good entertainment. :D
Atomis27
02-19-2004, 10:11 AM
This is a reposting of a piece I wrote out a couple nights ago, one that I felt compelled to get down on paper lest it become necessary to remember later. The therapeutic value was not overlooked either. It stems from an AIM conversation with "Bob" who is a friend as described below. "Bitchwife" is my ex-wife. :D
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Last night, I engaged in a conversation with an old friend of both me and Bitchwife. As I do with most folks that ask about how 'we' are doing, I eased him into the news of our divorce. He allowed me to tell him about it, then he confessed that he'd already heard from Bitchwife on the subject. However, our versions of the sordid tale vary in several areas, and in places she left things out completely. I respect this man, whom I will hereafter refer to as Bob, for letting me tell my side before passing judgement, which he thus passed in my favor.
Bob, knowing that the marriage is over and therefore past can come to light without fear of damage to it, said that he had some things to tell me that I wouldn't like hearing, but that I needed to hear anyway. He then began to recount his knowledge and dealings with Bitchwife, starting in high school before I knew either of them.
He told of how Bitchwife was quite taken with him back then, willing to go to rather extreme lengths to make him her boyfriend. Startings were simple, with such things as wearing suggestive clothing, showing up to his baseball games, and so forth. As time went on, she started luring him into situations where the two of them would be alone eventually. The two of them dated briefly from all this, and then the dating softened into simply friendship at his wish.
Bitchwife met me in the winter of 1995/1996, and we started dating exclusively, or so I thought, soon after. Such details I need not relate here, suffice to say that it was blissful for the most part. It turns out, though, that there were details than I didn't know.
Bitchwife continued to be interested in Bob, continuing to call him and talk to him well past high school and into our MCC years. These contacts culminated in two incidents, both while she and I were engaged to be married, where she lured him into being alone with her, exposed her breasts to him, and thus started make-out sessions. Bob admitted these things to me, with a due amount of trepidation, and noted that he made her promise the second time that their trysts would end there, as it was unfair to me. Their second and last affair was in Dec of 1998. Bitchwife and I were married the summer after.
As far as the years of our marriage went, there were no incidents like the two trysts previusly noted of which I am aware, but her interest in Bob had not entirely waned, either. One incident, during a little party she and I were having at our Mississippi State apartment, was retold by Bob to me as follows. Drinking was in force at this small gathering, and as per usual, Bitchwife had had too much. She started making mild advances toward Bob, playing with his hair and saying things to him. This making him uncomfortable, he left while I was tending to Bitchwife' sudden bout of sickness. I have no idea what she would have done had I not been there.
As the years went on, and we came to Alabama, contact between her and Bob lessened, mostly because of distance. One incident came in November, when Bob mentioned that he'd be returning to Meridian (MS) to visit family. She suggested they, "get together and go out on the boat" which is a reference to her mother's boat on Dalewood Lake. He considered it, but then he got a bad feeling about the situation, so he declined. Bob is married and has a son now, so his decline was not only in deference to me. After the breakup and subsequent divorce, the last contact between Bitchwife and Bob was in January of this year, where she related her somewhat embellished tale of woe to him.
One other, possibly very significant detail. Just after we started dating, she related an incident that happened to her when she was in the 10th grade, about 16 years old. She said she had been pressured into sex by a suitor that 'wouldn't take no for an answer' and had caught pregnant as a result of the encounter. She said that she and her folks had gotten her an abortion, and that was that.
I mentioned this to Bob, and he seemed very surprised about it. The events I relate here started when she was in the 10th grade, and she never mentioned any of this to him, nor seemed any different from day to day in her manner and emotions. She told me, in a roundabout way, that this mystery assailant's middle name was "Allen". Bob remembered there being a boy named Michael Allen Wright that lived on her street when she was in 10th grade, but as far as he knew, the incident she described to me hadn't happened. If that is correct, or even if it happened in a manner different than how she related it to me, then it calls into question any and every thing she ever said to me.
Now, I am aware that the possibility exists that Bob may be being duplicitous with me as well. I do not think this is the case, however, and here's why:
- Bob has nothing to gain anymore by telling me these things. As mentioned, he is married and a new father, and therefore cannot benefit from anything he tells me of the past.
- If this is true, why would a man tell the boyfriend/fiancee/husband of the girl he had an affair with of the affair at all? Knowing, as he does, me and my family, he would be more inclined to keep it a secret if it were not true, rather than risk repercussions for anything other than truth.
To sum up: It has become painfully clear to me that Bitchwife has not changed, and indeed, never did. She simply stopped acting. Bitchwife was, and apparently will always be, a manipulative female version of Ted Bundy, making friends of men only to use them as much as she can until they're useless to her, whereupon she cuts them loose to wonder and hurt.
My single greatest regret in all this is my painful naivete' in my high school years, that allowed me to be taken in by such a black widow for 8 years of my life that I can never get back.
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Last night, I engaged in a conversation with an old friend of both me and Bitchwife. As I do with most folks that ask about how 'we' are doing, I eased him into the news of our divorce. He allowed me to tell him about it, then he confessed that he'd already heard from Bitchwife on the subject. However, our versions of the sordid tale vary in several areas, and in places she left things out completely. I respect this man, whom I will hereafter refer to as Bob, for letting me tell my side before passing judgement, which he thus passed in my favor.
Bob, knowing that the marriage is over and therefore past can come to light without fear of damage to it, said that he had some things to tell me that I wouldn't like hearing, but that I needed to hear anyway. He then began to recount his knowledge and dealings with Bitchwife, starting in high school before I knew either of them.
He told of how Bitchwife was quite taken with him back then, willing to go to rather extreme lengths to make him her boyfriend. Startings were simple, with such things as wearing suggestive clothing, showing up to his baseball games, and so forth. As time went on, she started luring him into situations where the two of them would be alone eventually. The two of them dated briefly from all this, and then the dating softened into simply friendship at his wish.
Bitchwife met me in the winter of 1995/1996, and we started dating exclusively, or so I thought, soon after. Such details I need not relate here, suffice to say that it was blissful for the most part. It turns out, though, that there were details than I didn't know.
Bitchwife continued to be interested in Bob, continuing to call him and talk to him well past high school and into our MCC years. These contacts culminated in two incidents, both while she and I were engaged to be married, where she lured him into being alone with her, exposed her breasts to him, and thus started make-out sessions. Bob admitted these things to me, with a due amount of trepidation, and noted that he made her promise the second time that their trysts would end there, as it was unfair to me. Their second and last affair was in Dec of 1998. Bitchwife and I were married the summer after.
As far as the years of our marriage went, there were no incidents like the two trysts previusly noted of which I am aware, but her interest in Bob had not entirely waned, either. One incident, during a little party she and I were having at our Mississippi State apartment, was retold by Bob to me as follows. Drinking was in force at this small gathering, and as per usual, Bitchwife had had too much. She started making mild advances toward Bob, playing with his hair and saying things to him. This making him uncomfortable, he left while I was tending to Bitchwife' sudden bout of sickness. I have no idea what she would have done had I not been there.
As the years went on, and we came to Alabama, contact between her and Bob lessened, mostly because of distance. One incident came in November, when Bob mentioned that he'd be returning to Meridian (MS) to visit family. She suggested they, "get together and go out on the boat" which is a reference to her mother's boat on Dalewood Lake. He considered it, but then he got a bad feeling about the situation, so he declined. Bob is married and has a son now, so his decline was not only in deference to me. After the breakup and subsequent divorce, the last contact between Bitchwife and Bob was in January of this year, where she related her somewhat embellished tale of woe to him.
One other, possibly very significant detail. Just after we started dating, she related an incident that happened to her when she was in the 10th grade, about 16 years old. She said she had been pressured into sex by a suitor that 'wouldn't take no for an answer' and had caught pregnant as a result of the encounter. She said that she and her folks had gotten her an abortion, and that was that.
I mentioned this to Bob, and he seemed very surprised about it. The events I relate here started when she was in the 10th grade, and she never mentioned any of this to him, nor seemed any different from day to day in her manner and emotions. She told me, in a roundabout way, that this mystery assailant's middle name was "Allen". Bob remembered there being a boy named Michael Allen Wright that lived on her street when she was in 10th grade, but as far as he knew, the incident she described to me hadn't happened. If that is correct, or even if it happened in a manner different than how she related it to me, then it calls into question any and every thing she ever said to me.
Now, I am aware that the possibility exists that Bob may be being duplicitous with me as well. I do not think this is the case, however, and here's why:
- Bob has nothing to gain anymore by telling me these things. As mentioned, he is married and a new father, and therefore cannot benefit from anything he tells me of the past.
- If this is true, why would a man tell the boyfriend/fiancee/husband of the girl he had an affair with of the affair at all? Knowing, as he does, me and my family, he would be more inclined to keep it a secret if it were not true, rather than risk repercussions for anything other than truth.
To sum up: It has become painfully clear to me that Bitchwife has not changed, and indeed, never did. She simply stopped acting. Bitchwife was, and apparently will always be, a manipulative female version of Ted Bundy, making friends of men only to use them as much as she can until they're useless to her, whereupon she cuts them loose to wonder and hurt.
My single greatest regret in all this is my painful naivete' in my high school years, that allowed me to be taken in by such a black widow for 8 years of my life that I can never get back.
stealthj
02-19-2004, 03:35 PM
i HATE that BITCHWIFE
i CANNOT go into more detail i just HATE THAT BITCHWIFE
i CANNOT go into more detail i just HATE THAT BITCHWIFE
Jay!
02-19-2004, 04:00 PM
Wow. :eek:
Well, while I still stand behind the other advice I've given you, I never said she wasn't also at fault (usually because she's crazy, which seems to be true in your case.)
Still, read up on that stuff I showed you, as it'll help you weed-out the crazies in the future. ;)
But, yeah... that's some fucked up shit right there. :(
Well, while I still stand behind the other advice I've given you, I never said she wasn't also at fault (usually because she's crazy, which seems to be true in your case.)
Still, read up on that stuff I showed you, as it'll help you weed-out the crazies in the future. ;)
But, yeah... that's some fucked up shit right there. :(
Shortbus
02-19-2004, 05:27 PM
Sorry to hear all the negative news sean.
I can tell you I've been there and am still going thru it since October of 03. She met another guy when she was working her last job and without me knowing it I was competing for my wife's heart and happiness. Only I didn't know the game was on. Guess some of its my fault for getting too comfortable in the marriage and thinking that there was plenty of fuel in the fire to keep it(marriage) running with little maintenence and upkeep. Anyway she ended up moving out in November she said she found an apt for just herself, but finally back in late January just before her deadline to sign the divorce papers she called crying and fessed up about the whole affair and how unhappy she was, so I did the typical male thing. I let her move back in with me, two weeks later she sat me down and said she loved the other guy and not me, and was planning to move right back out. Of course she did move out and I don't know why but this time it was worse or harder on me when she left this time, I mean I was really messed up if not for some very good friends and close neighbors I wouldn't be here typing this now. Guess the only reason I let her come back was she made it seem like everything would work out and also it would be better for our 2y/o son to have his mom and dad together. I'm not trying to steal your spotlight here sean, but I just want you to know that you're not alone, and your story seemed so familiar to mine. I don't know, I talked to her grandmother the other day and spilled the beans on the whole thing and she told me her parents are not aware of her moving in with this guy and she has only been telling them what they want to hear. We think she's nuts, maybe some sort of early midlife crisis. Anyway I sold my house this month and will be moving into a 2 bedroom apt in scottsdale the first weekend of March. Be nice to get away from all that reminds me of her.
Best of luck to you sean.
I can tell you I've been there and am still going thru it since October of 03. She met another guy when she was working her last job and without me knowing it I was competing for my wife's heart and happiness. Only I didn't know the game was on. Guess some of its my fault for getting too comfortable in the marriage and thinking that there was plenty of fuel in the fire to keep it(marriage) running with little maintenence and upkeep. Anyway she ended up moving out in November she said she found an apt for just herself, but finally back in late January just before her deadline to sign the divorce papers she called crying and fessed up about the whole affair and how unhappy she was, so I did the typical male thing. I let her move back in with me, two weeks later she sat me down and said she loved the other guy and not me, and was planning to move right back out. Of course she did move out and I don't know why but this time it was worse or harder on me when she left this time, I mean I was really messed up if not for some very good friends and close neighbors I wouldn't be here typing this now. Guess the only reason I let her come back was she made it seem like everything would work out and also it would be better for our 2y/o son to have his mom and dad together. I'm not trying to steal your spotlight here sean, but I just want you to know that you're not alone, and your story seemed so familiar to mine. I don't know, I talked to her grandmother the other day and spilled the beans on the whole thing and she told me her parents are not aware of her moving in with this guy and she has only been telling them what they want to hear. We think she's nuts, maybe some sort of early midlife crisis. Anyway I sold my house this month and will be moving into a 2 bedroom apt in scottsdale the first weekend of March. Be nice to get away from all that reminds me of her.
Best of luck to you sean.
stealthj
02-19-2004, 05:58 PM
Sorry to hear all the negative news sean.
I can tell you I've been there and am still going thru it since October of 03. She met another guy when she was working her last job and without me knowing it I was competing for my wife's heart and happiness. Only I didn't know the game was on. Guess some of its my fault for getting too comfortable in the marriage and thinking that there was plenty of fuel in the fire to keep it(marriage) running with little maintenence and upkeep. Anyway she ended up moving out in November she said she found an apt for just herself, but finally back in late January just before her deadline to sign the divorce papers she called crying and fessed up about the whole affair and how unhappy she was, so I did the typical male thing. I let her move back in with me, two weeks later she sat me down and said she loved the other guy and not me, and was planning to move right back out. Of course she did move out and I don't know why but this time it was worse or harder on me when she left this time, I mean I was really messed up if not for some very good friends and close neighbors I wouldn't be here typing this now. Guess the only reason I let her come back was she made it seem like everything would work out and also it would be better for our 2y/o son to have his mom and dad together. I'm not trying to steal your spotlight here sean, but I just want you to know that you're not alone, and your story seemed so familiar to mine. I don't know, I talked to her grandmother the other day and spilled the beans on the whole thing and she told me her parents are not aware of her moving in with this guy and she has only been telling them what they want to hear. We think she's nuts, maybe some sort of early midlife crisis. Anyway I sold my house this month and will be moving into a 2 bedroom apt in scottsdale the first weekend of March. Be nice to get away from all that reminds me of her.
Best of luck to you sean.
wow this happeend to you too,,,,
woman and the friends they meet on the job...
makes me think on whether i ever wanna get married or not... :(
I can tell you I've been there and am still going thru it since October of 03. She met another guy when she was working her last job and without me knowing it I was competing for my wife's heart and happiness. Only I didn't know the game was on. Guess some of its my fault for getting too comfortable in the marriage and thinking that there was plenty of fuel in the fire to keep it(marriage) running with little maintenence and upkeep. Anyway she ended up moving out in November she said she found an apt for just herself, but finally back in late January just before her deadline to sign the divorce papers she called crying and fessed up about the whole affair and how unhappy she was, so I did the typical male thing. I let her move back in with me, two weeks later she sat me down and said she loved the other guy and not me, and was planning to move right back out. Of course she did move out and I don't know why but this time it was worse or harder on me when she left this time, I mean I was really messed up if not for some very good friends and close neighbors I wouldn't be here typing this now. Guess the only reason I let her come back was she made it seem like everything would work out and also it would be better for our 2y/o son to have his mom and dad together. I'm not trying to steal your spotlight here sean, but I just want you to know that you're not alone, and your story seemed so familiar to mine. I don't know, I talked to her grandmother the other day and spilled the beans on the whole thing and she told me her parents are not aware of her moving in with this guy and she has only been telling them what they want to hear. We think she's nuts, maybe some sort of early midlife crisis. Anyway I sold my house this month and will be moving into a 2 bedroom apt in scottsdale the first weekend of March. Be nice to get away from all that reminds me of her.
Best of luck to you sean.
wow this happeend to you too,,,,
woman and the friends they meet on the job...
makes me think on whether i ever wanna get married or not... :(
Shortbus
02-19-2004, 06:08 PM
Oh yeah, worst thing is this guy is 5 years younger (we are both 29) and is a different race (no I'm not racial) and is ugly (confirmed by one of my wife's g/f's that still talks to me). Anyway she told me the main reason she love's him is she enjoys talking to him and he is more outgoing and charismatic than me. Well fuck after 12 years together it's not like the first 6 months anymore. I can only hope someday she will grow up and realize this, but of course I won't be here waiting to take her back this time. The first time was a mistake and it didn't work so why the hell would it ever work again. She cut me bad...
Jay!
02-19-2004, 08:00 PM
woman and the friends they meet on the job...
makes me think on whether i ever wanna get married or not... :(Getting married is fine if you can find a girl who:
a) is sane
b) has integrity
c) loves you.
(Not really that easy to find.)
A woman who's really in love doesn't stray. The problem is that many men can't see that their women are falling out of love with them, until it's too late. So, of course, you have to keep them in love; you can't be complacent.
makes me think on whether i ever wanna get married or not... :(Getting married is fine if you can find a girl who:
a) is sane
b) has integrity
c) loves you.
(Not really that easy to find.)
A woman who's really in love doesn't stray. The problem is that many men can't see that their women are falling out of love with them, until it's too late. So, of course, you have to keep them in love; you can't be complacent.
stealthj
02-19-2004, 08:04 PM
Getting married is fine if you can find a girl who:
a) is sane
b) has integrity
c) loves you.
(Not really that easy to find.)
A woman who's really in love doesn't stray. The problem is that many men can't see that their women are falling out of love with them, until it's too late. So, of course, you have to keep them in love; you can't be complacent.
:(
what if i dunno till its too late ? :(
a) is sane
b) has integrity
c) loves you.
(Not really that easy to find.)
A woman who's really in love doesn't stray. The problem is that many men can't see that their women are falling out of love with them, until it's too late. So, of course, you have to keep them in love; you can't be complacent.
:(
what if i dunno till its too late ? :(
Jay!
02-19-2004, 08:43 PM
Don't know what?
Steel
02-19-2004, 09:04 PM
jay: you know that a is impossible to find. There is no such thing as a sane woman.
Mediocrity
02-19-2004, 09:12 PM
Hate to be a gloater... but after 1 year with the woman I'm with...we're ready to be married and although I'm pretty sure it won't happen - I hope it doesn't end up like your tale.
I'm terribly sorry and feel for you though. I know what it's like to love someone and then have them stripped from you like that... it's altogether confusing and destroying to the heart... May your future days be full of positive Karma.
I'm terribly sorry and feel for you though. I know what it's like to love someone and then have them stripped from you like that... it's altogether confusing and destroying to the heart... May your future days be full of positive Karma.
stealthj
02-19-2004, 09:41 PM
Don't know what?
dunno if the woman is falling out of love with me :(
dunno if the woman is falling out of love with me :(
Jay!
02-19-2004, 10:05 PM
jay: you know that a is impossible to find. There is no such thing as a sane woman.LOL. ;) There's probably a few "close enoughs" left. You may have to give up something like "can cook," though.
dunno if the woman is falling out of love with me :(
You need to read that Doc Love stuff I keep posting:http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/index.html
But I don't understand if you have a specific situation, or you're just speaking hypothetically....
dunno if the woman is falling out of love with me :(
You need to read that Doc Love stuff I keep posting:http://www.askmen.com/dating/doclove/index.html
But I don't understand if you have a specific situation, or you're just speaking hypothetically....
HogieGT-R
02-19-2004, 10:11 PM
so guys can we all agree that in today's world women suck? can we agree that women really suck!? can i get an amen?!
hell that's why i'm glad that i'm not married, cuz if i was married, i dunno what i'd be getting down the line...i say the best thing is to fuckin stay out of marriage like that cuz if women are crazy like that then fuck em...don't need that dramatic shit...i'm all set cuz seriously if i'mma marry a woman we're gonna be fuckin joined at the hip if that's the case
hell that's why i'm glad that i'm not married, cuz if i was married, i dunno what i'd be getting down the line...i say the best thing is to fuckin stay out of marriage like that cuz if women are crazy like that then fuck em...don't need that dramatic shit...i'm all set cuz seriously if i'mma marry a woman we're gonna be fuckin joined at the hip if that's the case
Atomis27
02-19-2004, 10:21 PM
I've been reading Doc, Jay, and reading him well. The problem is that someone like my ex is very difficult to spot. She fooled me good for eight years straight, not an easy feat.
Jay!
02-19-2004, 10:25 PM
Yeah, sociopaths will do that... :dunno: My mother-in-law is a prime example. She's on her 6th marriage.
Also, you have a PM. ;)
Also, you have a PM. ;)
asterox
02-19-2004, 10:40 PM
damn thx for posting all this
i say treat women like a car, get them inspected by a mechanic before you buy
i say treat women like a car, get them inspected by a mechanic before you buy
Atomis27
02-19-2004, 11:01 PM
damn thx for posting all this
Are you serious? ;)
i say treat women like a car, get them inspected by a mechanic before you buy
God in His Heaven, if it were only that easy....
Are you serious? ;)
i say treat women like a car, get them inspected by a mechanic before you buy
God in His Heaven, if it were only that easy....
Atomis27
02-19-2004, 11:03 PM
Yeah, sociopaths will do that... :dunno: My mother-in-law is a prime example. She's on her 6th marriage.
Hoo boy, you wanna talk about mothers-in-law...
No, I won't even get started. I'll say this, though: My ex's maternal grandmother (her mom's mom) was an axe murderess. She died in an asylum about a year ago now.
:eek: Nutty much? :icon16:
Hoo boy, you wanna talk about mothers-in-law...
No, I won't even get started. I'll say this, though: My ex's maternal grandmother (her mom's mom) was an axe murderess. She died in an asylum about a year ago now.
:eek: Nutty much? :icon16:
Atomis27
02-20-2004, 03:27 PM
It is finished. – John 19:30
Eight years ago, a shy young man, only 17 years old, met his first real love.
She was lovely to his eyes; a radiant smile, long, deep brunette hair, and a unique, deliciously carefree personality. It wasn’t long before the two of them were an ‘item’, and he eventually allowed himself to hope that he had finally found someone that ensured he’d never be alone again.
Now, nearly a decade later, the last vestiges of what used to be a blissful relationship finally, painfully, sputtered out.
That young man was me. And the story is a true one. Today, my divorce from my wife of 4 years has become final, sounding the last knell of what was once a truly beautiful song.
I know not what my future holds. But I know that I will face it with a strong heart and an iron will. And as I pull myself out of my own darkness, I find that the future, whatever it holds, seems bright.
I thank all of you for any and all words of encouragement, advice, and sympathy. They have helped to brighten those hours when the light fades from the sky, and morbid thoughts steal across the mind.
I end with a few simple words to those who may be, or have been, dealing with a situation similar to mine. Never lose hope. As long as the sun rises to greet another day, you have another chance to find what you seek.
Eight years ago, a shy young man, only 17 years old, met his first real love.
She was lovely to his eyes; a radiant smile, long, deep brunette hair, and a unique, deliciously carefree personality. It wasn’t long before the two of them were an ‘item’, and he eventually allowed himself to hope that he had finally found someone that ensured he’d never be alone again.
Now, nearly a decade later, the last vestiges of what used to be a blissful relationship finally, painfully, sputtered out.
That young man was me. And the story is a true one. Today, my divorce from my wife of 4 years has become final, sounding the last knell of what was once a truly beautiful song.
I know not what my future holds. But I know that I will face it with a strong heart and an iron will. And as I pull myself out of my own darkness, I find that the future, whatever it holds, seems bright.
I thank all of you for any and all words of encouragement, advice, and sympathy. They have helped to brighten those hours when the light fades from the sky, and morbid thoughts steal across the mind.
I end with a few simple words to those who may be, or have been, dealing with a situation similar to mine. Never lose hope. As long as the sun rises to greet another day, you have another chance to find what you seek.
Jay!
02-20-2004, 03:35 PM
I wish the best of success to you in your future! Keep us posted. ;)
gtkriss
02-21-2004, 12:40 AM
yea man, keep us posted, and keep readin the doc, that fella knows all.
Atomis27
03-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Update: I got a report from the court system marking that the judge signed the thing, I guess making it law, on March 5th. I should get my paperwork sometime this week.
That means that, officially, I am free.
That means that, officially, I am free.
stealthj
03-09-2004, 03:09 PM
good shit, wanna go get her friends for me now?
publicenemy137
03-21-2004, 07:07 PM
good, at least this happened early in ur life instead of when ur an old fogey and all the ladies are taken
pstone09
03-29-2006, 04:30 AM
OK now what are you gonna do? You cant just roll over and die dude. Cowboy the F*ck up and get even!!!!! Your gonna flaunt the hottest women U can pull in her face. and not only that. Make it look like to her that you are HAPPY. that is what gets women. the other guy boning ur wife is what gets men (thats why she mentioned the whole 1 hotel room thing), but happiness gets women, they're hard-wired that way. This'll get at her core.
Dont get Mad. Get Even.
Dont get Mad. Get Even.
-Davo
03-29-2006, 04:41 AM
this Information Would Of Been Helpful 3 Years Ago
vinnym86
03-29-2006, 03:07 PM
http://www.visimag.com/filmreview/images/f155_cont_am.jpg
"something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!!"
"something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!!"
TerminalVelocity
03-29-2006, 09:25 PM
I B L!!!
now lets all go get some snacks!
now lets all go get some snacks!
Smmoke
03-30-2006, 11:59 PM
http://www.visimag.com/filmreview/images/f155_cont_am.jpg
"something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!!"
:lol: :1: :rofl:
EDIT: Sorry for further continuing an old post, but I was thinking of that quote right before I saw it!
"something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!!"
:lol: :1: :rofl:
EDIT: Sorry for further continuing an old post, but I was thinking of that quote right before I saw it!
mushroom-eater
10-28-2008, 07:18 AM
I really recommend people not to embrace their problems but to find solutions. Work on it ok.
VR43000GT
10-30-2008, 07:27 PM
LOL! Brought back from the dead TWICE! You don't see those often.
-Davo
11-08-2008, 02:20 AM
LOL! Brought back from the dead TWICE! You don't see those often.
ROFL yeah :banghead:
ROFL yeah :banghead:
72chevelleOhio
11-09-2008, 01:34 AM
ooooooooooooohhhhhhhh, I want in!
Count me in, can I be in?!?!?
:tongue:
Count me in, can I be in?!?!?
:tongue:
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