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McLaren F1 `Extra High Downforce’ - LM engine

Exceptional Motor Cars and Automobilia Auction
at the Jack Barclay Showroom Tuesday 2nd December 2003 at 6pm

Kandy orange metallic with magnolia nubuck leather with beige alcantara inserts to the drivers seat and beige alcantara with magnolia nubuck leather inserts to the passenger seats

Engine; BMW V12, twin overhead camshafts, four valves per cylinder, electronic fuel injection, 6064cc, producing 691bhp at 7,500rpm; Gearbox: six-speed manual; Suspension: double unequal length wishbones, Ground Plane Shear Centre sub-frames and anti-roll bar front: Inclined Axis Shear mounting system with toe in/ toe out control links rear, alloy dampers, co-axial springs Brakes: ventilated disc, four piston monobloc light alloy Brembo calipers, computer cooling with balance aerofoil and Central steering position.

The idea of creating the ultimate and most exciting road car was conceived as early as 1988 just after the Italian Grand Prix. Following a meeting of minds led by designer Gordon Murray, McLaren declared an intention to build the ultimate road car utilising technology generated from their position as world leaders in the blue riband of motor racing – Formula 1. Six months later an announcement was made to the press at the Brazilian Grand Prix in Rio de Janeiro declaring their intention to build a perfect car `The best McLaren could make regardless of cost’.

The result was the most sensational combination of styling with performance: the build quality unsurpassed and a design of unparalleled function and purpose. The car featured a BMW engine unit of V-12 configuration at a 60 degree angle, with a displacement of just over six liters. Featuring four valves per cylinder and continuous variable inlet valve timing, the dry sump magnesium cast engine fed power through a transversely mounted six speed gearbox mated to a triple plate carbon clutch with aluminium flywheel. With a power to weight ratio of 550bhp per ton performance was electrifying; 0-60mph could be reached in 3.2 seconds and after passing 100mph at 6.3 seconds it could continue to a maximum speed of 231mph (figures quoted by Autocar). By total contrast the F1 is equally at home in traffic and it is claimed that one can trickle along at 35mph in top gear whilst the engine gently idles – a single gear with an operating field spanning nearly 200mph!

Asides from the mechanical specification the body was equally unique, drawing on McLaren's Formula 1 expertise it was fabricated entirely of carbon fibre composite construction. Unlike other commonly utilised materials in car manufacture, carbon fibre is unperishable; not capable of flex or rusting it is quoted as being able to `last forever’. With a safety cell to protect the three occupants it provided what was effectively a single seater Grand Prix concept with room for a passenger recessed either side of the central driving position.

The prototype was launched to public scrutiny at Monaco in 1992 where potential customers were able to choose their personal options and even specify their preferred steering wheel and pedal locations. Standard specification was comprehensive and included a gold-plated Facom titanium tool-roll, fitted luggage, magnesium alloy wheels and a specially designed lightweight Kenwood stereo system. In addition to this, a complete Facom tool chest with all McLaren F1 necessary tools was separately included. From this debut it then took nearly two years for the first customer-ordered cars to be delivered in 1994. Praise was unanimous, not least by the few privileged owners but the press alike. In 1998 a McLaren F1 road car was recorded at 386.7kmh / 240.14mph and this stands today as the fastest speed ever recorded by a production car. It was claimed that the F1 was never designed as a race car, if that is indeed true the F1 must be the most successful accidental hero ever to grace the racetrack. After a debut win at Le Mans in 1995 the F1 went on to record numerous victories in GT events across the globe including two FIA GT World Championships.

After the Le Mans victory of 1995, McLaren made a commemorative `LM’ model destined for road use which had increased horsepower, greater downforce and improved handling characteristics to the standard McLaren road car but it lacked the internal comforts of the standard model. This stunning one owner example was delivered by McLaren in 1998 and this particular collector wanted a unique car which combined the best of both worlds; the performance of the `LM’ with the internal comforts of the standard model thus giving the uncompromised option of everyday road use.

After the car was purchased, McLaren offered to undertake this extraordinary project in their workshops in Woking, England. It began with the fitment of their GTR-inspired `High Downforce Package’ which dramatically improved high speed road holding and stability. Later additional improvement was requested to increase the aerodynamic capability of the car in an effective but visually subtle manner thus it was decided to add louvres to the tops of the front wings and balance the rear end of the car with a 4mm %IGurney flap%i. Documented testing at Bruntingthorpe proving ground in May 2000 evaluated these additions and the conclusion was the following; `…The additional downforce enhances the existing levels of grip and stability and provides a great feeling of confidence and security, particularly at high speed.’ In addition to this, McLaren installed larger radiators and a sports exhaust system (the original system also accompanies the car) along with a set of forged multi-spoke wheels (exclusive to this car) brandishing suitably colossal Michelin tyres all round. To complete this marvel the LM engine was installed; producing an astonishing 691bhp at 7500rpm and 735 NM of torque (dyno test sheet can be provided upon request) it makes a significant performance improvement. It is important to acknowledge the significance of this upgrade as there is only one other McLaren F1 roadcar with the LM engine fitted.

An additional fax sent from McLaren in August 2000 complimented this astonishing car even further; McLaren’s most experienced test driver commented that this car was `the ultimate F1 variant, having the best combination of performance, stability, grip and handling, whilst still being practical for road use’.

Unbelievable to think it possible for the greatest Supercar of all time, but with performance raised to an uncompromised optimum level, seemingly there could be no further necessary requirements. However thanks to the comprehensive options and upgrade packages offered by the McLaren factory to this privileged individual, it was decided to respray and retrim the car to his desired combination. A unique dark tangerine metallic colour was chosen, as the studio photography shows, the result is absolutely mesmerising and for long-term protection from stonechips `Armourfend’ (a ultra thin, transparent film) has been applied to the most prone areas such as the nose, headlights and wing mirrors. In complimentary contrast, the interior was trimmed to `GT’ specification with a magnolia alcantara headlining and magnolia wilton carpets, the driver’s seat was privileged with magnolia nubuck leather with beige alcantara inserts and the passenger seats were mirrored in beige alcantara with magnolia nubuck leather inserts. To finish and sharpen the visual appearance the dashboard was trimmed in black alcantara and black wilton overmats adorn the footwells.

Also uprated is the air conditioning system. In the cockpit there is a 14 inch leather-trimmed steering wheel and a Phillips satellite navigation system nestles in the left footwell within a custom-made carbon fibre casing. Notably the carbon fibre instrument panel incorporates a gear change light and the chassis number is engraved into the rev counter. Whilst in the car, you have the ability to listen to the stereo, the two-way radio Motorola communication system, the navigation satellite and/or converse with each other whilst on the move (with or without using the helicopter-rated intercom system and Peltor headsets). Other factory upgrades on this most select McLaren include gas discharge headlights, lightly tinted side windows and as a custom request the `F1’ motifs on the doors and the sides of the rear wing have been painted silver. To complete the astonishing achievement Gordon Murray himself has hand-signed this supercar on the carbon fibre area in between the chassis plate and the gear stick in silver permanent marker.

Since new, the car has always been stored in the custody of McLaren Cars and all service and up-grade options, that McLaren offers to their exclusive clientele, have only ever been carried out by McLaren Cars in their Customer Care Workshops. The LM engine has covered just over 5,000kms (3,000 miles) since installation and less than 500kms since the last thorough service. The odometer reading displays just 18,540kms (11,500 miles) but if one takes into consideration that the chassis is unperishable and the engine is so fresh, it can be regarded as virtually new. Presented in immaculate condition throughout, this particular McLaren F1 is an `ultimate’ example of the model and with its comprehensive specification and knockout looks should not be missed.

Included is the Facom tool kit, McLaren 073 wristwatch made specifically for this car, fitted luggage, users manuals and the Swiss Permis de Circulation.


colour Kandy Orange

interior colour Magnolia nubuck/Beige alcantara

drive LHD

type Coupe

year 1998

Chassis No. SA9AB5AC4W1048073

Engine No. GTR LM 61121 6053 1648

Price estimate: 500.000 - 600.000 GBP

country United Kingdom









Vendor


Christie's Sale, London 2nd December 2003

The Jack Barclay Showroom, 2-4 Ponton Rd, London SW8 5BA

Homepage http://www.christies.com/
Phone +44 (0)207 389 2851
Fax +44 (0)207 627 8917
E-mail [email protected]

whats a "Swiss Permis de Circulation" ?

My guess would be either the plate or the registration.

Funny that you would post this today as I just went looking to see if it had been published on Christies site yesterday, thinking that it had been a while since anyone had mentioned it and that the auction was less than one month away.

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its not on christies. i was looking for new mclarens for sale on classicdriver.com and saw it. pure luck.

btw, i am scanning the 001R pic right now

691 HP. That's 11 more than the official power qouted for the LM. This must be one fast McLaren. Anyone want to lend me 600,000 quid?

I think you might need just a bit more money than that for what is most likely the ultimate interpretation of the F1 road car.

Chock that 11HP variance up to minor differences in each engine - HP variance is common among engines in all cars.

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Wow! This sounds like an imazing Mclaren, definetly
one of my favorites. Frank Selldorff should gobble this
deal up fast.

I disagree - I think what Frank has is perfect. A driver, a showroom piece, and the ultimate road car. This car tries to combine all three into one and so it would suffer in some respects.

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If £600,000 wouldn't cover it, how much do you think would?

for a mclaren, 600,000 quid itsn't much. is gonna go for more than that

011 didn't make £600,000. Why should this one?

TcarR, even if you did manage to get it for £600,000(which
I personaly think is very unlikely) you'd still need more(lots
more) money for normal upkeep costs. Before buying an F1
make sure that you have a steady pay check that has a
number on it that is somewheres north of £1,000,000.


Hope this will help you out some time in the future. LOL

cause 011 was a regular f1 with a hd kit and a few cosmetic add ons

well then, let's all quess what it will go for. Winner gets.......not much really, apart from some satisfaction (not even Mick Jagger could that, so it's not that bad of prize).

I'm going for £645,000

My GUESS - 740,000 - 760,000 (pounds)

ohh, nice 2 more posts till i meet 1000. thats about 950 in here, haha.

My GUESS - $740,000 - $760,000

That's only £445,000. Why so low?

i meant pounds

I'm goeing to say £770,000 to £830,000.

yeah, that was my guess too, but i kept it low ;)

yeah, that was my guess too, but i kept it low

Well, Great minds think allike.

haha. so true ;)

great find, do you know anyhting about being a normal gearbox or lm?

why does it matter? i'm sure if the gearbox couldn't handle the engine, they would have put a better one in

im asking b/c my dad likes the car but he wouldn't consider bidding on it if it had the lm gearbox

I'd put my money on it being a standard road car gearbox.

Christies should be able to get you that specific information prior to the auction assuming you are a registered bidder.

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jomo, i'm sorry but i have believed you long enough. Why come on here to ask about mclarens? Have you contacted Mr. Clark or Mr. Dermott? I'm sorry but this all doesn't ad up. Mr. Selldorff never mentioned you when you said hello and when you come on here asking for color advice it just makes it worse. Sorry man, i am no longer going to go along with this

First of all he sent me a private message and if you would like to see it i can foward it to you, i participate on the board b/c you guys have know so much and its not everyday that you can talk to the mclaren factory.

That still doesn't add up. My uncle has contacts in McLaren and i'm sure he could organise something for me (he HATES the mclaren, so he doesn't like talking about it. he got a tour of the factory and aparenty made some rather rude comments about the car to Mr. Dennis. I will hold a grudge against him for it). That still doesn't mean you will buy one. I'm sure i could post a pic of me in 011 and say that its mine and people would believe me.

I never said once that he was definitly going to buy it only interested. I sent you the pm i had the pic of the lm i dk what else you want but really i could care less if u believe me or not

i'm just saying. it doesn't look like you have made any "progress" on the purchase

whatever i dont feel like arguing with u on a public board

i wasn't arguing (yet ;) ) i was just pointing out something.

If your point is that we havent made any progress. If you dont mind me asking how would you have any clue how much or how little progress we have made, you dont live with me. And its not like im gonna say every little thing that has happened. You shouldnt state things that you have absolutly no clue about.

umm. i would have thought that if you made any progress you may tell us since we do inform you of a lot of info. If not, then you are just proving my point that it ***APPEARS*** that you haven't done anything drastic.

Ok this is my last post on this topic after this lets please stop this. On the progress i have told you that we drove the car, talked to the factory, called other dealers, my dad got some prices on things liike changing hte paint and refitting the car which i didnt showed you. I would consider that progress. I said this before that nothing is going to happen until the auction, and there is a pretty good chance that we will bid on the car.

Hey guys, sorry that I haven't contributed in a while been very busy with School :banghead: . Anyways, I have still been reading the forums for the last few month or so, and I must say, it is kind of perplexing that some in a position such as jomo's wouldn't do everything in their power to acquire one of these spectacular cars. I can in no way shape or form afford a McLaren at the moment, or in the near future for that matter. And while I'm sure it is everyone's hope that they should be able to, I don't see the logic in "having" the necessary funds available and not taking the opportunity to purchase the car. I dont want to discredit you in any way, but it seems like you have seen the car, taken a picture with it, and declared that you want one. Now for me, even though I would love to say I owned such a car, I would rather actually OWN IT, then just say I wanted one/was looking into acquiring one. I'm sure I can speak for more than myself when I say that this forum is full of "true" enthusiasts", and that we have a hard time believing the vagueness u have presented with your McLaren dealings, and the total opposite in which every1 else would have acted if in a position such as yours, WE would actually buy the CAR!!! :screwy:

if i was my dad i would definitly buy the car in a second, but me and my dad have different interest (me cars him art) But i dont make the decisions on buying a car he does, i can only push him toards it. and trust me that im am doing everything in my power to make him want to buy the car.

I suggest we let this whole 'debate' end. It's only a few weeks til the auction. If Jomo goes he can present us with pics, information etc, and maybe he might come back 073 itself. If he dosn't present any evidence then we can lay in to him, sorry, i mean 'debate' it further :naughty: . Until then let nothing more be said of it. :smokin:

im not actually goin to england to go to the auction, everything will be done by phone. christies is sending us a catalog which should be here friday. But theres not much i can do besides talk about it b/c i dont hav a scanner. christies will probably post the lots on the website soon

i'll scan it when i get the catalogue.

I suggest we let this whole 'debate' end. It's only a few weeks til the auction.

Amen! I don't think more can be said about it other than to attack the guy. And that's not why any of us come here...

I've always felt in life that it's a very bad idea to call someone out based on speculation. If you have hard facts of some conspiracy or false truth, then by all means confront that person. Otherwise, I don't think it's worth it.

Purchasing a McLaren F1 isn't like buying anything else. Sure there are some which appear to be "available now" and maybe jomo's father does have the capital to make such a purchase, but it's not a decision to be made overnight. Also, each car is unique and carries a unique history. Based on comments from XOtech and tvrfreak, many have been maintained in different ways, making some a gem and others a wreck. You have to be a little more selective with a car like this, otherwise you could end up incurring much greater expenses than the price of entry further down the road. Not to mention the red tape one must be willing to wade through just to certify an F1 here for road use. It's all more complicated than I think some of you are willing to admit.

I for one would be happy to see jomo tell us they've made the purchase. I also wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen based on some of the comments he has made about his father's level of commitment. Personally, I'm willing to give this story a lot more time to flush out. It really doesn't make a big difference in my life, and I don't see the harm in jomo sharing his stories here - even if they do turn out to be just "stories" which I sincerely doubt.

My :2cents:

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ok. sorry man. i hope for your sake you aren't kidding :chair:

very nice post peloton

I speak to a lot of you privately, and have gotten to know quite a few of you fairly well, so I think I have some credibility here.

I know jomo and his dad. Whether they buy a McLaren or not, they are for real, and are certainly intending to buy one. I have not disclosed that I knew them before because I wanted to protect everyone's privacy, including mine.

jomo has not made one false statement on this board.

damnit, i just got :owned:

hahah you sure did. thanks alot tvr

So with all that out of the way, you can tell us what your dad is thinking about this particular F1? Do you think he likes this one enough to set a serious limit and hopefully end up buying it? Or does he want to do a little more research and searching before commiting to such an expensive purchase?

it almost wouldn't be worth buying it if you planned to bring it to the us. so much would be changed. you may as well get a road car with an hd kit

I asked him if there was a good chance that he would bid on the car and he said yes, so im hoping that we come home with the car. Once we get the catalog and he looks at it im gonna ask him again.

...so much would be changed...

What exactly are you referring to?? :confused:

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the things that are changed for the car to meet emmisions standards

How come you guys in the US seem to have tighter emmision regs. than in the EU but the average CO2/km per car is a fair bit higher. Are these emmison regs your talking about special ones that about only apply to supercars?

How come you guys in the US seem to have tighter emmision regs. than in the EU but the average CO2/km per car is a fair bit higher. Are these emmison regs your talking about special ones that about only apply to supercars?

It's not the tailpipe emissions that most vehicles which weren't originally manufactured for our market need to worry about. It has more to do with certain regulations in the US for on board monitoring of those emissions and the standard interfaces which must be built into the vehicle to allow for diagnostic checks. Someone else can explain it better I'm sure.

The main thing that keeps many rare and desireable vehicles out of our hands are the DOT's (Department of Transportation's) FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) which require certain design elements be fixed and that a number of vehicle be crashed for testing purposes. The advent of "Show & Display" legislation has allowed certain technologically significant or historically important vehicles to forego such test in order to be imported. You still have to deal with our EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) on all their emissions regulations to be able to register the vehicle though.

FYI: There are no regulations in the US relating specifically to supercars, either from an emissions or performance standpoint. They are treated the same as any other vehicle.

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Well 073 should have no trouble getting in under the show and display rule. I'm quessing this limits your mileage though. How much?

It's not the tailpipe emissions that most vehicles which weren't originally manufactured for our market need to worry about. It has more to do with certain regulations in the US for on board monitoring of those emissions and the standard interfaces which must be built into the vehicle to allow for diagnostic checks. Someone else can explain it better I'm sure.


basically, the cars that have problems are the ones that have a different computer monitoring things (which peloton said above) than the ones that are made for the us market. obd1 and obd2

Importing a car under "Show&Display" limits annual mileage to no more than 2500 miles per year. :( That's better than no mileage I guess...

You can do some reasearch on OBD-I and OBD-II if you'd like to learn more about them. All cars manufactured for sale in the US by (I think) 1988 were required to have an OBD-I on board diagnostic unit and sensors. All car's manufactured for sale in the US by 1996 were required to have the updated OBD-II system and sensors. The McLaren F1 doesn't feature either system as standard.

The McLaren F1's TagTronic engine management system monitors many more parameters than are required by either OBD-I or OBD-II standards, but because they used McLaren's own software, connectors and sensors, they are not compliant with the regulations. Obviously for the few post 1995 McLaren's that have made it into the US under S&D, someone has found a way to retrofit the cars to meet those requirements. I'm sure the cost is rather high though. Maybe gerd or XOtech has more knowledge about the later model cars (outside of the Ameritech F1's) that have been certified for road use in the US and how it is accomplished.

BTW: I agree - #073 shouldn't have any great difficulties getting in this country beyond what is the norm now for post-'95 F1s. I also don't think the modifcations required will have much impact on the car itself. I am certain it won't be cheap though. ;)

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What do you think about the wheels on the car like them or no? would you either have the wheels that the lm has, stock or the ones on it. Me i think the rims look cool, stock would look baad b/c of the HDK im sure the lm wheels would look aswome

keep em, they are hot