#$*&!!! Full Christies Info Released!!

The only thing I don't really like about this car is the interior color. I would have gone dark with it instead of the light tan colors. The wheels are great, the paint is great, the HDF kit is great in my opinion.

Incidentally, I never got in on the final bid guesses earlier, but I predict this car will sell for approximately £250,000 more than the Blue #011, or right around £850,000. It's possible that the interest in this F1 will be much higher though, given it's unique configuration and claimed condition. I don't feel that it's as valuable as one of the 5 real customer LMs would be though. Either way, its too rich for my blood.

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ER

The estimate did say 500-600,000 pounds which means that if there is a reserve on the car its around 500,000 pounds. i agree about the interior it wouldnt be my first choice

where have i been? was the chassis number determined for this car yet?

Yes - it's #073.

And I dunno, where have you been?? :grinno:

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ER

i was guessing #073 cuz of the part that read "McLaren 073 wristwatch made specifically for this car," however i wasnt sure if they were really referring to #073 or just a type of watch that McLaren has made with the car...

To summarise the guessing of the final price so far then:

Peloton - £850,000
McLarenF1LM - £770,000-£830,000
mini magic - £740,000-£760,000
Me - £645,000

I think any new guesses should not span more than £20,000 to make things fairer.

BTW - you've all gone way to high, that top prize of self satisfaction is going to be all mine :naughty:

Actually no price ranges should be allowed. Everybody should just pick one price and stick with it. Whoever is closest wins. I'll take mini magics guess as £750,000 and MclarenF1LM's as £800,000. Good luck (your going to need it :iceslolan )

£740,000 -- my guess.

Here's how I came up with my guesstimate:
£640,000 Last car sold
£ 50,000 more for the LM engine
£ 5,000 for the watch, complete service records and history.
£ 10,000 for the tool kit and accessories.

£ 35,000 -- 5% premium since the economy has recovered a little...?!

This includes the buyer's premium that Christies charges (19.5%, I think), but not VAT, as the buyer may keep it on the Swiss registration or take it outside England.

750,000 pounds
And btw my dad just got an email confirming that it is a standard gear box. (wonder what the top speed of this car is 691bhp)

Thanks to the HDK the Vmax won't be very high, but take the kit off..... :grinno:

Thanks to the HDK the Vmax won't be very high, but take the kit off..... :grinno:
id much rather that the HDK stay on. could you imagine driving (or at least trying to drive) an ultra light chassis such as a McLaren with 690bhp? :uhoh:

What do you mean when you say Vmax

he meant top speed.

Vmax = maximum velocity

Ok now the past few posts makes sense, its not like anyone is gonna be going over 200mph on public roads anyway.

I've seen 170mph in the left seat and 196mph in the right seat of a modified 911 Turbo before. With cars that accelerate that quickly, it's easy to double or almost triple the speed limit for short bursts. I'm not condoning it, but it was quite an experience.

And yes, I know I'm going to hell for it. :evillol:

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ER

im taking a shot in the dark with this one....£800k even. i was about to guess somewhere areound £750k, but that just seemed too little for a car like this one. its pretty and powerful, on top of that its a McLaren.

Well in order for the car to reach such a high number, it's going to need the right buyers lined up who want the car. If there are just a few buyers, and some who might not fully appreciate the uniqueness of this F1, then I think the bidding may come in a lot lower. If it does, then someone will be a very lucky person.

I think there might just be enough advanced interest in this car for it to reach a high number. That's why I suggested the highest guess of anyone so far. We'll see in a few weeks if that proves to be true.

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ER

The reason i guessed a lower number was b/c this is the total opposite croud for this car, every other car is a classic(i htink). So thats why i think the car in gonna go for less.

if someone wants it bad, they'll go, no matter what the "crowd"

Well in order for the car to reach such a high number, it's going to need the right buyers lined up who want the car. If there are just a few buyers, and some who might not fully appreciate the uniqueness of this F1, then I think the bidding may come in a lot lower. If it does, then someone will be a very lucky person.

I think there might just be enough advanced interest in this car for it to reach a high number. That's why I suggested the highest guess of anyone so far. We'll see in a few weeks if that proves to be true.

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ER
i believe that the right buyers will show up. this is a McLaren, and a unique one at that. how many chances is one going to get to have possesion of such a car like this one?

the only question is, how much is the "right buyer" going to want to pay for it?

I just noticed on the christies website that the rest of the cars being auctioned off are not that much. Besides the f1 and another car. In the past christies usually has cars goin for multi million dollars. this is all total speculation but i dont htink the car will hit a exceptional price

Just to recap as two weeks to go approaches:

Peloton - £850,000
Stratoraptor - £800,000
McLarenF1LM - £800,000
Jomo - £750,000
mini magic - £750,000
tvrfreak - £740,000
TcarR - £645,000

I'm beginning to think that i went a bit low, but i really don't think it will get anywhere near £800k. Perhaps Stratoraptor and Jomo should lower or increase their guesses by £1 so that they are not the same as anyone elses. I'd recommend going lower :iceslolan .

ok put me down for 760,000 (dont know how to make the pound sign)

£ = Alt + 0163

You have to press and hold "Alt" while typing in those numbers. To learn more go to Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map. You can also go Start > Run > and type "charmap" to open it. It tells you the required Keystroke in the lower right corner.

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ER

You can just cut and paste it from someone else's post!
:)

Perhaps Stratoraptor and Jomo should lower or increase their guesses by £1 so that they are not the same as anyone elses. I'd recommend going lower :iceslolan .

very well knock off £10k, and make it £790,000 :wink:

Keep those guesses coming. All guesses should be in by the 25th of November (i.e. you've got a week), and you can't guess the same as someone else.

Ok guys I'm going for a nice round 500k gbp. I reckon you're all on the high side with the guesses.

i reckon about £690k

Well at last the full details are available. Check 'em out at:

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LOTDETAIL.ASP?sid=&intObjectID=4211056

What a shame - the photos they put up do nothing for the color - I should revise my bid down £125,000 because of that. ;)

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ER

The pics will probably look aswome in the catalog. christies usually does a great job putting them together. Also it seems that the mclaren is the second to last car to be auctioned off witch is a dissadvantage. Which also might lower the price, but we will just hav to wait and see.

the pics are awful!!! they scare people of, the colour is most beautiful in the sun

I got the catalog today. Cant really tell the color of the car looks much darker than it really is. Got a few extra pics but nothing great.

Hello,

first, beautiful pics of SuperKaribou are here : http://superkaribou.free.fr/Mc%20Laren%20Thumbs/thumbnails.html

second, it seems that #073 is one car before end of production, so, it give more importance !

I guess £700,000.

Good Luck to Jomo and his dad. Where do you live ? If your dad buy this one, you would receive it or go to se it ?

Good bye
Philippe

those pix have been posted b4, but thanks

Hello,

first, beautiful pics of SuperKaribou are here : http://superkaribou.free.fr/Mc%20Laren%20Thumbs/thumbnails.html

second, it seems that #073 is one car before end of production, so, it give more importance !

I guess £700,000.

Good Luck to Jomo and his dad. Where do you live ? If your dad buy this one, you would receive it or go to se it ?

Good bye
Philippe

I live in the U.S. If we do purchase the car it will stay at the mclaren factory till we go there and make the changes that we want to be done. Once that it done it has to be shipped and fitted to make it legal. My dad talked to the person the modifies(spelling) the car to make it street legal and he said he can do a 98 model. So it will be a while before we see the car.

check ur pm's lately jomo.....? :(

Yeah i got ur message, there really wasnt anyway that i could respond. dont worry about it, if i were u i would probably be the same way.

thanks man

got an email from christies, here is what the catalogue will look like :

http://www.christies.com/images/email/car_watch_dec03/car_cover.jpg

I'll definatley be getting one :)

The auction is tomorrow (as if you needed reminding), so here are the final guesses:

Peloton - £850,000
McLarenF1LM - £800,000
Stratoraptor - £790,000
Jomo - £760,000
mini magic - £750,000
tvrfreak - £740,000
cabrio - £700,000
maarten - £690,000
TcarR - £645,000
JJ1 - £500,000

There's a range of £350,000 there, but you can ignore JJ1 as with a guess that low he is clearly mad. That means a range of £205,000. And also ignoring JJ1, the average guess is £747,000. So who will win our top prize of 1 weeks' free supply of self satisfaction? We'll find out sometime tomorrow (hopefully). :smile:

Sorry, my estimate is late...I'll guess £770,000

got an email from christies, here is what the catalogue will look like :

http://www.christies.com/images/email/car_watch_dec03/car_cover.jpg

I'll definatley be getting one :)
damn. maybe im speaking as a McLaren fan, but that car in the "red car" in the middle sticks out like a sore thumb. :)

yeah it does. not very good editing

is there a way to get up to the minute updates on the cars auction?

i doubt it unless you are a registered bidder

Sorry no car, my dad said he would get one in the u.s. prob the titanium one from motor cars intl. I forgot what my dad said about how much it went for.

Hello !

Do you know the final auction please ?

Goodbye
Philippe

damn, i still need to order my brochure :(

:rolleyes: :uhoh: £ 731,250

Our guesses were:
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Peloton - £850,000
McLarenF1LM - £800,000
Stratoraptor - £790,000
Jomo - £760,000
mini magic - £750,000
tvrfreak - £740,000 ********** ding ding ********we have a winner!
cabrio - £700,000
maarten - £690,000
TcarR - £645,000
JJ1 - £500,000

:) :cwm27: :smokin: :lol: :rofl: :2cents: :lol2: :naughty: :p

whats all this commison stuff? I dinnae understand auctions. The hammer price was £660k. What does that mean?

tvrfreak - I'll put your prize in the mail tomorrow. Keep checking your mailbox. ;)

Thanks for the update. That's pretty interesting that it sold to the US, I wonder if the new owner is well known or already has another F1? Seeing as how the true LMs are all locked up, it would seem this car is one of the few opportunities to own a special McLaren F1 if someone were interested.

I'm sure we will know the new owner's name eventually. :naughty:

>8^)
ER

how do you know it sold to the u.s.

what do u mean? by phone i guess, or someone flew over to bid? or do you mean how will it get in?

Hello,

in fact, we have not said if estimations are with or without tax.
So, I consider maarten and me the closest.

The price is low compared to others Mac' to sell in Europe !

Goodbye
Philippe

of course asking price in dealerships is higher, because buyers always negotiate on the price.
and yes philippe, we were right :D
i knew i alllllll along!

Too bad guys, I already sent the prize to tvrfreak when he proclaimed himself the winner. ;) :lol:

I think I was closest, because by the time the owner gets the car to the US and pays for all the conversion work, the price will have most certainly soared over my £850,000 guess. :evillol:

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ER

Here's the photo of #073 from the Christies Auction site at high resolution courtesy of (well, more like "borrowed from") Supercars.net. :thumbsup:

http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=1997_mclaren_f1-1.jpg

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ER

The auction was mentioned in Autoweek last week. Didn't say anything I didn't know though. Had a photo of the side from the photoshoot with the white background