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RedLightning
11-03-2003, 08:18 PM
any one know when the new lightning will come out based on the new one?! anyone know how to get 500 horses from a 2002 to 04 model?

DkShadow
11-03-2003, 11:40 PM
1 Dont know, next year? :dunno:

2 Pulley & Kenne bell, or a shot of Nitrous :dunno:?

tha_new_guy
11-04-2003, 12:16 AM
Would you really want 500 horses out of a truck?? I mean this new truck fad is kinda silly. How fast can you go (safely) in a truck?? SCREW FAST TRUCKS!!



This comin from the guy who got beat merging onto the freeway by the Harley Davidson Edition F-150.....who knew they were s'charged?!? Damn right I'm bitter....

youngvr4
11-04-2003, 12:53 AM
YES finally someone understands :iagree:

SR20DETpower
11-04-2003, 08:24 AM
140mph lol. I've driven a Lightning a lot and I must say the car has some big balls for a truck. It handles decent, brakes decent, and goes like a bat outta hell with them big tires when you stomp on it. It feels pretty safe and manueverable. This is not just a F-150 with a new engine, they have really done some modifications to other aspects and I love driving it.

I have no idea about the others

HiFlow5 0
11-04-2003, 08:53 AM
The 02 lightning can be made fast, even though they are already pretty quick. Actually they don't even handle like a truck, they have a low stance and sport suspension which makes them handle more like a performance car. I can't remember off hand, but there was an article I read where they got the Lightning into the mid 13's, and I think there was one in the 12's. This of course was on slicks, different s/c pulley, removed tailgate, and a few other minor things.

YogsVR4
11-04-2003, 10:49 AM
I've lined up against a few lightnings. They do get up and go, but I'd rather have a truck for hauling then hauling ass.

Polygon
11-04-2003, 10:51 AM
I'd take the SRT-10 Ram of any of the sport trucks, though I would get a Hemi as a serious truck for my work horse.

83_Z28
11-04-2003, 11:12 AM
i agree that dodge race truck has the viper engine. but as a work truck get the ram 3500 v-10 diesel

RedLightning
11-04-2003, 06:55 PM
thanks for answering i should have put the uber ram(viper) on it but i did not couse its much better than the 2004 model lightning hopefully the next lightning will come out in 2004.5 or 2005 lol

RedLightning
11-04-2003, 07:45 PM
guiness book of records got the lightning up to 147...folded mirrors bak and took off anttennae(pardon spelling)

Polygon
11-04-2003, 08:49 PM
i agree that dodge race truck has the viper engine. but as a work truck get the ram 3500 v-10 diesel

Nah, I would still rather have the Hemi. I can't justify the extra cost of the diesel. I just would tow enough to balance it out. However; if you're doing a lot of towing then by all means get the diesel.

thanks for answering i should have put the uber ram(viper) on it but i did not couse its much better than the 2004 model lightning hopefully the next lightning will come out in 2004.5 or 2005 lol

Added it for you.

2000LS1Z28
11-04-2003, 09:13 PM
I've beaten 2 Lightnings thus far. They take off well, but my LS1 tends to reel them in. Still, they look awesome. Ford has got Chevy's daddy with that truck. The SS truck sucks IMO.

Polygon
11-04-2003, 09:20 PM
I've beaten 2 Lightnings thus far. They take off well, but my LS1 tends to reel them in. Still, they look awesome. Ford has got Chevy's daddy with that truck. The SS truck sucks IMO.

Yeah, as far as sport trucks go the SS is by far the weakest.

RedLightning
11-04-2003, 09:43 PM
chevy ss's are jokes they arnt good anymore an fwd ss or a ss truck with 345 hp (i think) lol

RedLightning
11-05-2003, 07:32 PM
its me...again...but the reason for the thread about 500 hp is because i was wondering on how they got that mcuh from production one to the concept...or is it just a new engine?

tha_new_guy
11-05-2003, 11:00 PM
Dude, check your PM's. We need to talk: new guy to NOOB.

BlkCamaroSS
11-07-2003, 02:14 PM
The SS is not a sport truck, it's a sporty-looking truck. It'll be a sport truck only when it gets some balls under the hood, and shaves the weight (gets rid of the extended cab).

2000LS1Z28
11-07-2003, 08:35 PM
I believe, from what I read in a car magazine, that the SVT has only a few engine tweaks. One of which is some type of intercooler sprayer, to cool of the intercooler with a cold spray (Nothing really new). I believe they call it an aftercooler or something????? It also has more boost from the S/C. Too be honest this is just gonna jack up the rpice of the truck, and is a bad idea IMO. They are pricing it where the Dodge is at, and the Dodge SRT-10 hasn't even made production yet. If they sell the new Lightning for more then $40K, my prediction is that its sales will drop dramatically, more then likely leading to the demise of the Lightning. I hope they don't make the truck a 500 hp, overpriced, out of anyone short of a Lawyer's salary range truck. The Dodge I am positive, won't sell that well. My opinion is to keep the Lightning at 380 hp, and $34K. Heck if someone wants to pay $45K for a Dodge truck that is only slightly faster, let them waste their money.

911S_TARGA_RSR
11-08-2003, 06:48 AM
Has anyone even thought about the Ford Excursion with the 8.1L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel shit that thing is pretty fast. My friend owns one that they strapped a bottle of NOS to and shit man that thing burns a lot of other cars even without the NOS.

12secv6stang
11-08-2003, 10:35 AM
screw the SS and spend the money on a silverado HD with a 496ci gasoline engine. it eats the powerstrokes (and the SS's) lunch

chrismerkle
11-09-2003, 06:25 PM
i love the svt lightning. beat the corvette in the 1/4 mile. :)

DeViL
11-10-2003, 03:38 PM
The trucks look cool as hell but I don't see why the super performance trucks are the full-size. S-10's, Rangers, and Dakotas would be best for racing since they are such smaller trucks. Give them the big v8's and superchargers damn it.

-The Stig-
11-10-2003, 06:32 PM
The trucks look cool as hell but I don't see why the super performance trucks are the full-size. S-10's, Rangers, and Dakotas would be best for racing since they are such smaller trucks. Give them the big v8's and superchargers damn it.


There's a guy roaming around here with a Dakota with the 360 (5.9L) V8 with a supercharger strapped on. I've never seen the supercharger but you sure as hell can hear it. Thing scoots right along for a mid size truck.

He thought he was cool and was gunning his motor next to me when I was in my truck... like I was going to do anything. :lol: My Truck was stock as piss... no contest.

Carpie
11-10-2003, 10:14 PM
I was watching Speed Channel a while back and they were highlighting trucks like the Dodge Hemi and the Ford Lightning... then they showed some crazy one based on the Corvette frame, engine & tranny, with a modified suspension, and AWD! It was a fiberglass, single-piece body, and from the picture on TV, sat about as low as the Corvette.

What I want to know is has anyone else heard about GM/Chevy's other entry. This may be where the 1500 SS came from, but I'm so not sure. The two trucks look nothing alike. Does anyone else know... or, has anyone else heard about this one?

BlkCamaroSS
11-10-2003, 11:16 PM
Yup, it's just a concept, not a production model...

01venom_
11-12-2003, 02:19 PM
any one know when the new lightning will come out based on the new one?! anyone know how to get 500 horses from a 2002 to 04 model?
New model of lightning will be coming out in '05 thats the one with over 500 hp and 500 ft/lbs it will smoke the srt-10 even though dodge is denying it. Trust me this is what will happen. you can check it out at www.svt.ford.com

Steiner
01-18-2004, 10:37 PM
New model of lightning will be coming out in '05 thats the one with over 500 hp and 500 ft/lbs it will smoke the srt-10 even though dodge is denying it. Trust me this is what will happen. you can check it out at www.svt.ford.com

LMAO!!! No...the SRT-10 will be faster. You can read all about it at www.srtforums.com. Come on dude. Obviously I'm being sarcastic. Do you really think the best place to find an impartial comparison is the SVT website. This post just goes to show you that the funniest jokes are made by accident. Good one dude.

BTW...the citizens of Cuba are all very, very happy. Just check out Fidel Castro's website if you don't believe me. ;)

DeViL
01-19-2004, 12:16 AM
Eh yeah thanks for digging up old posts...but speaking of fast minitrucks

There's a guy roaming around here with a Dakota with the 360 (5.9L) V8 with a supercharger strapped on. I've never seen the supercharger but you sure as hell can hear it. Thing scoots right along for a mid size truck.
I'll have to dig up some old pics of this guy's truck on S10forums.com.
Its basically a new model yellow, 2-door S-10 that he converted to have all the features of a Z06 Corvette. He has the wheels, that little brake cooler scoop thing on each side, the taillights, the exhaust (true duals), not to mention the LS6 V8. Probably the only thing he is missing is the independent rear suspension.

syr74
01-20-2004, 10:37 PM
Yeah, Chevy's Silverado SS was a half-assed attempt if ever there was one. "I have an idea, lets take a GMC Denali pickup, take out the 4ws, and add a body kit and some dubs. Then we can call it a muscle truck". Yeah, whatever.

Wether you like the "fast truck" concept or not, it would have betten better to not show up at all than to do it like Chevy did. The SSR is a bigger joke than the Silverado SS is. At least the Silverado is useful as a truck. The SSR is like a slower version of the old Prowler with a bed...I don't get it.

And, does anyone else find it odd that neither the current 360hp Lightning, the 500hp Ram, or the future 500hp Lightning uses AWD....but, the 345 hp Silverado SS does. As light in the rear as those first three seriously powerful trucks are AWD makes much more sense than it does in the current crop of AWD performance cars. But, the only truck that really doesn't need AWD for performance purposes, the SS, is also the only truck that has it. Go figure

MustangRoadRacer
01-21-2004, 11:23 AM
the new lightning will be faster than the V10 dodge truck.
It will probably be out for the 2006 model year.
old lightning is still agreat truck.
500hp can be done with a new pulley, exhaust and a 50 shot of nitrous.
It's just that simple.

Psman32@af
01-21-2004, 12:39 PM
Yeah, Chevy's Silverado SS was a half-assed attempt if ever there was one. "I have an idea, lets take a GMC Denali pickup, take out the 4ws, and add a body kit and some dubs. Then we can call it a muscle truck". Yeah, whatever.

Wether you like the "fast truck" concept or not, it would have betten better to not show up at all than to do it like Chevy did. The SSR is a bigger joke than the Silverado SS is. At least the Silverado is useful as a truck. The SSR is like a slower version of the old Prowler with a bed...I don't get it.

And, does anyone else find it odd that neither the current 360hp Lightning, the 500hp Ram, or the future 500hp Lightning uses AWD....but, the 345 hp Silverado SS does. As light in the rear as those first three seriously powerful trucks are AWD makes much more sense than it does in the current crop of AWD performance cars. But, the only truck that really doesn't need AWD for performance purposes, the SS, is also the only truck that has it. Go figure

Ive wondered that too many times, the only somewhat logical conclusion is that the 4 X 4 system can handle the extra power of the bigger engines, but to me, that doesnt make too much sense, as it shouldnt be that hard to beef up. I would love to see those trucks with 4wd. Oh ya, and for the comment earlier about the intercooler spray, you arent quite correct. part of the water used for intercooling is cooled by the air condiontioner, so it will be very cold, and according to SVT, can add up to 50 more hp for up to 30 seconds, and it takes up to 2 minutes to recharge. kind of like a reuseable 50 shot of nitrous... pretty cool idea, now lets just wait and see if it works.

RedLightning
01-22-2004, 06:50 PM
well this is an old thread, but i dont care, the current lightning has 380hp not 360, the 99 model year was the one with 360hp i believe, and from what i heard both the svt lightning and cobra are coming out in 2006, this b/c svt helped work on the mustang gt and i guess ford gt, so had no time to work on lightning, now it would be funny if ford made a 600hp truck, that would whoop but.

Boostedpimp
01-24-2004, 11:45 PM
wheres the love for the original sport truck and still the quickest??

not the fastest anymore thanks to the lightning but still the "quickest" (http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/sport_truck_10-90.html)

RedLightning
01-24-2004, 11:51 PM
wheres the love for the original sport truck and still the quickest??

not the fastest anymore thanks to the lightning but still the "quickest" (http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/sport_truck_10-90.html)

thnx for the article but have u ever hear bout the srt-10? i think it does better times, it better it has a viper engine, and the new lightning will do the same, but that is one nice truck and a great sleeper!(and quicker then the currant lightning, i guess)

Steiner
01-25-2004, 12:00 AM
wheres the love for the original sport truck and still the quickest??

not the fastest anymore thanks to the lightning but still the "quickest" (http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/sport_truck_10-90.html)

Man...what the hec happened to those things? I remember when my buddy's dad bought a Typhoon it was in the shop all the time. I was only about 14 years old at the time, but I'd sure be interested to know what the deal was. Did those things really run a low 13 off the showroom floor. Damn!

Boostedpimp
01-25-2004, 12:04 AM
well the new dodge srt10 looks sweet and i love the idea of the viper motor sitting in there thats nuts but it weighs 5150 pounds without driver and cost $46,430 new. Apparently what i've been told is that in the Feb issue of Sport Truck mag they tested the srt-10 ram at 13.12@108mph in the quarter.

Boostedpimp
01-25-2004, 01:31 AM
Man...what the hec happened to those things? I remember when my buddy's dad bought a Typhoon it was in the shop all the time. I was only about 14 years old at the time, but I'd sure be interested to know what the deal was. Did those things really run a low 13 off the showroom floor. Damn!

yah with adverage driver they ran mid 13s off the showroom floor all day long. There awd turbocharged 4.3 liters. The syclone only ways 35xx pounds. They were under rated by gm on there factory out put of horse power and torque so the corvette of that year didn't look weak :naughty: I forget who but someone dyno tested there stock typhoon and got some where around 370hp and 406 or so of tq.

there are plenty of sytys around just that we stick within our closely nitted forum lol www.syty.net

kclightning1
03-21-2004, 03:02 PM
Would you really want 500 horses out of a truck?? I mean this new truck fad is kinda silly. How fast can you go (safely) in a truck?? SCREW FAST TRUCKS!!



This comin from the guy who got beat merging onto the freeway by the Harley Davidson Edition F-150.....who knew they were s'charged?!? Damn right I'm bitter....


Hey dumbass! Why talk s**t on the lightning's take a look at you're piece of crap!

RedLightning
03-21-2004, 03:07 PM
the reason why i like sport trucks is because, of more utility then a 2 person sports car, and a fair mount of performance, tha_new_guy must not like the truck part of the equation. and this is an old thread.

carrrnuttt
03-21-2004, 03:07 PM
Hey why talk s**t on the lightnings look at you're peice of crap!!

Next time you bring up a dead thread, make sure you pay attention.

Take a look at the small print on his post, and look up the definition of sarcasm, and humor, k?

DkShadow
03-21-2004, 06:15 PM
Next time you bring up a dead thread, make sure you pay attention.

Take a look at the small print on his post, and look up the definition of sarcasm, and humor, k?


Werd... I hate stupid newbies, Even worse hes a Ford owner ;)













:rofl:

RedLightning
03-21-2004, 06:27 PM
Werd... I hate stupid newbies, Even worse hes a Ford owner ;) :rofl:

now now yer just mad that fords are the best! lol :bananasmi

DkShadow
03-21-2004, 06:35 PM
now now yer just mad that fords are the best! lol :bananasmi
You got that right...

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/347000-347999/347674_46_full.jpg

:)








I just wanted to piss off the guy a little more ;)

Boostedpimp
03-21-2004, 10:01 PM
naww not because fords are the best.. but prob because he had his ass handed to him by a truck..

bk2kmax
03-22-2004, 12:10 AM
I love the way Lightning strikes.

New04GT
03-29-2004, 12:34 PM
I've beaten 2 Lightnings thus far. They take off well, but my LS1 tends to reel them in. Still, they look awesome. Ford has got Chevy's daddy with that truck. The SS truck sucks IMO.

I raced a buddy of mine with a '99 lightning, I originally thought it was alot faster, But we lined up at a light, Launched and I barked 2nd 3rd and 4th gears. I had a consistant pull on him up until we caught traffic at about 110 mph by that time my rider said I had about 2 or three links on him.

RedLightning
03-29-2004, 07:04 PM
I raced a buddy of mine with a '99 lightning, I originally thought it was alot faster, But we lined up at a light, Launched and I barked 2nd 3rd and 4th gears. I had a consistant pull on him up until we caught traffic at about 110 mph by that time my rider said I had about 2 or three links on him.

you have a base stock mustang? '99s have less hp, i could see you beating one with a Mach 1, or Cobra easily.

Edit: oh you have a GT, i can see that then.

street_racer_00
03-29-2004, 08:07 PM
Definitely the SRT-10.....can't beat a shortbed truck with a viper engine :D

Vettribution
03-31-2004, 02:31 PM
As a fan of Chevrolet.. Im dissappointed. Cant say anything else really to describe the feeling of seeing the SS tags on that thing. Ive seen 4 different versions of an SS Concept since the 99' Silverado came out. From the Gold stepside to the 485 HP (ahem naturally aspirated V8) unibody, to a shortbed, shortcab lowered 395 version that looks like the SS of today. That version had ALOT of promise, as it was going to run about 20 grand, had a V8 with that much horsepower, less weight than the Lightnings and a MUCH better stance. As it is, there are no plans for production of the latest real SS concept.. which is a shame.

So is an attempt of my own to destroy Lightnings, and though incomplete. It shows me that if I were to hit anywhere NEAR (You know like within 5-10 grand near) the 35K price tag of the Lightning, It wouldnt be just me beating them, it would be an absolute slaughter. Soon comes the supercharger, and as it is I am already beating the Lightnings, with what I have and havent hit 25k. With the suspension and stance I have, I could easily outrun the Lightning on a road course, as well as a drag strip. Aftermarket superchargers will easily add 50-65% additional horsepower, so even without the nitrous, I cringe at the thought of the power that is soon to be at the tip of my toes.

The truck ran a best of 14.20@97mph with a 2.10 60 foot time. I show the 60 foot time to show how much quicker the truck could run with slicks. This run was at Bandimere Speedway, Morrison, Colorado. This track is at an elevation over 5,000 feet. The corrected et for sea level is 13.40@105mph. On the dyno, with nitrous the truck made 351hp and 436lb ft of torque to the rear wheels, at 5,000ft elevation. Of the three Lightnings that showed up on the same day as me, the quickest ran a 14.8x, and was an 03'. Just my own three cents.

syr74
04-01-2004, 03:03 PM
As has been said before modded compared to stock is kinda pointless. I can slap a nitrous setup, an exhuast, ram air, and a tweaked the ECU on a new 5.4L 3-valve shortbed and equal your numbers with ease I am sure. But the point is????

Chevy showed up with an SS that doesn't cut it. The fact that you have to build a truck yourself to keep up says a lot. Lightnings can, and do run a lot faster than high 14's. And, just like the Cobra the Lightning is very easy to mod to insane levels of hp. MM&FF proves that when they got a strictly bolt-on Lightning to run high 11's. And that with the factory supercharger as well.

You have a nice truck and thats cool. But, the fact that you can modify it to outrun a stock Lightning really doesn't say much. I could slap nitrous, an exhaust, and a set of cams onto a Mach-1 and smoke a C5 Vette down the 1/4-mile for under 40 grand. That doesn't prove anything either, Excet that modded cars can outrun stock ones...we knew that already.

RedLightning
04-02-2004, 10:34 PM
As has been said before modded compared to stock is kinda pointless. I can slap a nitrous setup, an exhuast, ram air, and a tweaked the ECU on a new 5.4L 3-valve shortbed and equal your numbers with ease I am sure. But the point is????

Chevy showed up with an SS that doesn't cut it. The fact that you have to build a truck yourself to keep up says a lot. Lightnings can, and do run a lot faster than high 14's. And, just like the Cobra the Lightning is very easy to mod to insane levels of hp. MM&FF proves that when they got a strictly bolt-on Lightning to run high 11's. And that with the factory supercharger as well.

You have a nice truck and thats cool. But, the fact that you can modify it to outrun a stock Lightning really doesn't say much. I could slap nitrous, an exhaust, and a set of cams onto a Mach-1 and smoke a C5 Vette down the 1/4-mile for under 40 grand. That doesn't prove anything either, Excet that modded cars can outrun stock ones...we knew that already.

actually there is a vortec Mach 1 i read about in motor trend last issue i believe, and it can supposidly destory vipers.

righthandrive350Z
04-03-2004, 12:02 AM
my dad owns a 99 lightning, very quick for being a first year veteran of the new style, he upgraded with an air intake, i cant see much change with just that. SS is weak i can agree, the SRT-10 is stout but who pays that much money for a truck?? Harley truck is ok if ya want class, and the hemi..thats dodg'es biggest joke yet...why call it a hemi when it dont produce like the real hemi actually did? JOKE!!

Neutrino
04-04-2004, 06:19 AM
and the hemi..thats dodg'es biggest joke yet...why call it a hemi when it dont produce like the real hemi actually did? JOKE!!


the new hemi doesn't produce like the real one....you mean the 426?

hmm lets see the 426's in the cuda's, challengers etc were tuned for performance, had virtually no emission restrictions and were 81Ci bigger...well of course they performed better


the new 5.7 hemis are now only in trucks, station wagons, and luxury sedans are not yet tuned for all out power...you have to wait till D/C pulls out something like the charger concept and then we can see a hemi tuned for permance with the gear ratios to match....there are even rumors of an all aluminum hemi

GTStang
04-04-2004, 06:16 PM
I agree and the true potential of the new 5.7 Hemi has not yet been realized but right now it's just as sad of a name sake as the new GTO IMO.

Vettribution
04-04-2004, 10:37 PM
The GTO is a hell of a car. What do expect, another retro car like that peice of crap Thunderbird? It puts up better numbers on the track than any previous GTO, and is one hell of a quick car as big as it is. The interior is nice as hell, surprising for GM. Its roomy, quick, comfortable. People complain just because its what others do, if you ask me. If GM continues to evolve the GTO, its going to be one of the best cars on the market as far as speed, comfort, and poor man's luxury.

DkShadow
04-04-2004, 11:44 PM
The GTO is a hell of a car. What do expect, another retro car like that peice of crap Thunderbird? It puts up better numbers on the track than any previous GTO, and is one hell of a quick car as big as it is. The interior is nice as hell, surprising for GM. Its roomy, quick, comfortable. People complain just because its what others do, if you ask me. If GM continues to evolve the GTO, its going to be one of the best cars on the market as far as speed, comfort, and poor man's luxury.

The GTO is just another Grand Am with another name, Same as the Grand Prix, the Bonneville and whatever other damn car Pontiac is gonna pull out of their ass. If they wouldnt have called it a GTO then itd be alright. Its like bringing back the Camaro and making it look like a Cavalier :sly:

hungryJonJon
04-04-2004, 11:52 PM
SRT-10 is a sad truck. if it didn't weight 8383838 lbs maybe it'd be ok.

phantomz28
04-05-2004, 03:32 AM
A good ol chevy for me. for mespepd in a truck just seems dumb. trucks where ment and designed for hualing stuff not racing! just dont make sence to me. and with any amount of money any car can kick ass. so its just the model i look at not the power

Steel
04-05-2004, 04:45 AM
I made the mistake of running a lightning in my n/a 7. This was before I knew what "lightning" really meant. My ass hurt for a week after that.

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