Z06 vs...

There all great cars you mentioned but an audi tt is no match for a z06 viper or 911.

My order Viper
911 and z 06 very close i think id go with 911 though but prolly z06 cause its cheaper
and last audi

There all amazing cars.

I smoked a young guy in a Z06 last night. Wanted to play with the big dogs and got put to sleep. It was a 360, ViperGTS, and my SV. He came close to the 360, but I pulled him by about 30 yds on the big end. I would have given him a greater gap, but i backed off.

Which car won? The viper or SV ?

The SV. The viper gets took by about a car and half through mid-range. When speeds get higher, it falls back farther. I've seen 200 in the SV. Viper is usually about 3 cars back.

Thats kool.

How the z06 and gts do off the start ?

With the GTS the Z06 never really has a chance. It's close, but not a race that Z06 owners should go looking for. Now I've seen a Z06 take a '95 RT/10.

For anyone that is interested. There is a guy in my home town that bought George Brett's old '94 911. I took it fairly easily in the '99 SS. However, his car handles like a go-cart. I wouldn't try racin' him through the twisties. His 911 was nothing particularly special. Just gave me a story to brag about that sounded good.

I was able to get into a Viper GTS ACR with no problem, just put in one foot, then the but while the second foot gets in. Found visibility in either the Vette or Viper isn't so good, I want to see more of the road directly in front of me. Mid-engine fixes that:)

corvettes are the ONLY american sports cars I respect.

I'm a rotary guy :)

I wish we could just build some decent cars..... but thanks to bob lutz, we just might..... but the best thing he could do is get rid of pontiac... grand am? bonneville? grand prix? uh huh, right, they dont compete in any of those.

about the posts earlier i really wish chevy would put a big block in the upcoming c6. they already have a block to work with...the 8.1L monster. all they would have to do is get the guys to work on it a little bit and tune it up and i think it would be great. just my opinion.

Thats a good point. The engine the Viper's is derived from started with 300hp. So work a little magic, and you should have a 500hp vette with no problem. And lots of torque, too;)

I love the Z06, but I hate that the price tags are inflated. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings or make anybody mad, but these cars do have high price tags. The 03 Mustang SVT Cobra and the 02 Z06 are not to unreasonable being the power you get from them. But when dodge was first designing the viper it was going to have a price tag of around 25,000 thousand dollars(which even in the 90s was not a bad price) but when they saw the demand for the car they limited production numbers on them and raised the price. I love the Viper and if I had the money I would get one. I am 18 and studying Computer Engineering at the University of South Carolina and if I get a good enough job I would like to purchase a viper. The new vette is an awesome vehicle. My dad ran a service portion of a performance shop in south carolina called ATS for awhile and I never got to see the numbers a stock Z06 dynoed but I did witness a supercharged Z06 some other cars on the dyno.From my experience at ATS watching the cars get dynoed the new SS's generally put 300-310 rear wheel horsepower, the 2000-2001 Mustang GT's put around 240 rear wheel horsepower, 2000-2000 Viper GTS's put about 405-420 rear wheel horsepower, a 2002 Z06 with a supercharger(I can't remember what psi it was running at) put 460 rear wheel horsepower, and recently they had a 2003 Cobra on the dyno. They tell me that bone stock the mustang put 385 horsepower to the ground, when they changed the exhaust like the owner wanted(just put some pipes on it and removed the silencer) the car dynoed 406 rear wheel horsepower and finally the owner upgraded the pulley on the supercharger and when it is running 14 psi it made about 450 rear wheel horsepower. And king of the dyno at ATS is a Twin Turbo Viper with Nitrous. The dyno can hold 1200 rear wheel horsepower and the Viper put more power then the dyno could read(I think it might have broke one of the gears that turns the dyno but I am not sure). I like the outlook for the future of domestic cars. I have heard that chevy might make a vette in the near future with 500 horsepower and the engine will not have a cam, the valves are electronically controlled. This would be very neat especially if could program the valves to different settings. It would be like changing the cam in the motor instantly. I would like to see the camless motor made. Now that I have added my .02 cents I will go. I am not set on any one manufacturing and I like any car that runs fast. I was just trying to add my experience with the cars to the conversation. And also about the interior of the vette, I could definately live with it. I hope I didn't make anybody mad.

No...A 2001 Z06 has 385hp and 385 torque. A 2002 Z06 has 405hp and 400 torque. Get it right.

Originally posted by hakka
he actually did three versions...a TT, an NA 427, and an NA 427TT:hehe:

what an engine, it's Non Aspirated yet it has twin turbos!!! someone's smokin somethin!!!!

The 2002 Z06 has 405 HP... according to GM

The 2001 has 385 HP.

The Z06 offers greater value for your dollar. If money no object... I'd opt for a 2003 Twin Turbo Porsche!

Get rid of Pontiac, are you out of your mind? If Pontiac wasn't around, where would people have gone if they wanted a better looking Camaro? Pontiac is a more wealthy man's Chevrolet as Buick is a poor man's Cadillac. Not to mention the old GTO's used to kick some serious ass. Pontiac is a great GM company that makes some of the better looking cars of GM. I don't know about where you live but back in 95 when the Grand Am design had become much more appealing, those cars were everywhere.

I agree that Pontiac has a great heritage, but nonetheless, all of their present offerings can be found elsewhere (once Oldsmobile dies, they will have the Grand AM themselves, but Olds is still around....kinda)

Styling is, er, subjective.

Oldmobile died out because they had nothing to offer. Family cars, every branch of GM has that. What makes the others survive? Cadillac, they are the nicest GM product, Buick, they are nice and affordable by most people. Pontiac, the Trans Am and Bonneville. Chevrolet, Corvette, Camaro. GMC, that hangs on probably because they are used as work trucks by many companies. They get lots of sales for the Sonoma and Sierra. Saturn, I dunno how they survive I guess people like their vehicles.

Just wonderin, have you ever been behind the wheel of an Aurora? They have balls for a four door I think, especially when you get the V-8. And our Oldsmobile Silhouette will also frickin go, 6 grand red line and and all the options except for the tv. and the driver's heated seat doesn't work for some odd reason. But still, Oldsmobile should stick around, I say fuck Buick. Oldsmobile has had nice vehicles in my opinion. It'd be nice if they could get more vehicles, maybe even some sports cars.

Yea seriously. You want a luxury interior you get a luxury car. A corvette is a high performance car so it should have a fitting interior, which it does, and i think it's damn cool...

Oldsmobile could of used a make over, the Aurora is pretty good looking, even nicer when its one of the few GM 4-doors with a V8. But thats about it. The Alero would be ok if it didn't have those gigantic taillights. The rest didn't look so good compared to the other GM lineups.

Buick makes some ugly looking cars as well I'm really surprised they aren't ditched. Oldsmobile actually looked better then Buick.

I would have to say the Olds 442 is one of my favorite muslce cars.

4-4-2 was one of the few big block muscle cars that held in there past the 70's. When did it die out, wasn't it like 86. It was complete junk in the 70's and 80's but thats besides the point.

ne one own a z06?

My dad's got a 2003 :cool:

Back to the Z06, I love that car it is an acceleration beast and I saw I think Motortrend's shootout with some of the tuner cars and the Z06 even though it was Lingenfelter TT'd it ran the roadcourse faster than everything out there including Porsche and other vehicles costing almost twice the cash.

Gotta luv the Vette, it is the best sportcar period.

Damn right. I agree with you 100%. Vettes are one hell of a bargain for the money.

Pontiac is ok the GTP and Ws6 look great.. even some f their over cladded offering weren't bad the Gran Am with the Ram air hood..look cool

The Aurora.. well that is a nice car .. and its motor is a variation on the Northstar mors.. when Olds pulss it was their intent to use the Aurora motor in the Gran pRixs.. a v-8 fwd.. proven powerplant and tranny..

Any way.. the Zo6.. hell there are many inexpensive ways to make big hp out of them.. Diablo beware.. and as for the interior.. just pick up an ecklr catalog put out 600 dollars and get a complete CF or aluminum overlay kit ad boom your audi looks like junk

not that is even needs it

My Ws6 when clean and properly armoralled .. and leather condition.. hell i bring in peopl that have lexusus and BMW and Mercede and they all say Wow this thing is really nice.

The Z06 interior isn't up to pa..you gotttabe kidding me.. wipe your dashed down with armor all and leather conditioner for the seats and watch it spring to life..

i find pain quailty excellent.. on both my Ws6 and Z06 fit and finish is well above par.. or i just got lucky

may she always rul.. and i don'tbelieve the Supraguy.. a BPU+ isn't that fast.. unless the Zo6 ran out of gear cause its not geared to run like say the Zr1

but he maybe the vette guy jut backed off.. i know i don't.. i don't hateimport and the Suprais cool.. but no .. no way i've beaten amny bpu +++ you see you got to race them from a stop their race is a 40-60 mph role..they know it and sucker yo in.. were i live they want to start the race at 100 mphthen hit it.. now that ridiculous thats not what happens on the street

Just wanted to say welcome Unleashed, it's nice to have another on the board who obviously knows his schiznik and got the rides to back it up, any chance you wanna sell that Lightning>haha jk.
Welcome bro

Hello to you as well. and thanks..

hey don't belive the stories on the lightning.. you'll go through rear tires like water.. its tricky vehicle too hook up..

Im sure some stillen gear will make your Max a screamer.. as im sure it already is.

I like Nissan Alot.. i'd take any of their present 3.5 offerings..

i'd see what they'd give you for a new maxima very 350Z ish





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UNLEASHED

I take a little offense to the fact that you said that a BPU+ Supra is not that fast. A BPU+ Supra can put 460hp to the ground. Not only that but they are geared for the top end. It wouldn't surprise me to watch a BPU+ Supra pull on a Zo6.
Also, Your Zo6 is not stock. You've claimed to me to have as much power in your Zo6 as I do in my Supra. 631 rwhp is a lot of power to be putting through a Vette, not that it can't do it because it definatly can but it is obviously not stock. So as for you beating a BPU+++ Supra. I would hope so if you had comparable horsepower to me.
As for playing with a Supra from a stop. Of course you'll launch harder than a Supra. Supras have to contend with the dreaded lag. That's why Supras will always play on the highway and tend to avoid stoplight races.

Originally posted by BlkZO6
Corvettes tend to be a bit larger than traditional sports cars. That's true. But that's because that is what the buyers want. I've owned my share of true sports cars like MGBs and MG Midgets and even a TR6. Miatas and Audi TTs and such are the ones that compare to that. As I get older, I like a little comfort with the spice. That's, to me, the biggest drawback to a Viper, and why I haven't bought one yet. I still may, though.

I don't really want a car I can't take on the occasional road trip with my wife. That's why I feel the Corvette is better for me than either Viper or Porsche. But remember...it only competes with the exotics on performance, not on expensive detail. If it did, it would also compete with them on price. You can't have everything.

I suppose I could buy an exotic, but mostly they are too small and too undependable. I'd hate to break down with a Ferrari in the middle of nowhere...where would you get it fixed? And they do break down frequently, and expensively. That's the quality I'm looking for...not extremely expensive leather or carbon fibre upholstery. The first scheduled maintenance on a Ferrari is about $7000.00. It's a bit ridiculous. I did look at an XKR, but in the end, didn't like it enough.


By the way, AC Cobras hardly had what you would call a nice interior.:)
what are you talking about??lamborghini's are extremely dependable too, dont think of porches and ferraris as the only 100k+ exotics because you named the two lacking in performance engine companies, and i love corvettes too because im a camaro owner and the corvette is a little higher level but so what.:D

When you buy a Ferrari and you have a lot of money, they probably kiss your ass all the time. You don't think you would spend all that money on a car and they not have some kind of road assistance for you?

Originally posted by pennyho
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S-10 Extremes are awesome as hell, their V-6's are probably close to the power of your Camaro, and I bet his Trans Am would beat your Camaro

shut up you don't know shit i use my uncles 1995 dodge ram v8 2500 diesel pickup and that sure as hell is a shit load better than his s-10, trust me my uncles are engineers and they just worked on their friends crapy s-10 custom duluxe and that blowed so much, and the ram is so much more durable too, and for that camaro vs his pontiac you r retarded because i added a supercharger from vortech in mine and it will totally smoke his!

Originally posted by pennyho
shut up you don't know shit i use my uncles 1995 dodge ram v8 2500 diesel pickup and that sure as hell is a shit load better than his s-10, trust me my uncles are engineers and they just worked on their friends crapy s-10 custom duluxe and that blowed so much, and the ram is so much more durable too, and for that camaro vs his pontiac you r retarded because i added a supercharger from vortech in mine and it will totally smoke his!


im sorry but you sound like a total riceboy

Originally posted by pennyho
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:rolleyes: :o until you post something intelligent, youre only succeeding in making yourself look stipid

Originally posted by pennyho
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Outstanding! that's what I call spreading your wisdom, good Job!:bloated:

Originally posted by pennyho
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ethnic remarks hmm? if i was too cheap to waste money on gas, would i buy a car that runs on premium?

It's great being a moderator:rolleyes: Enough is enough, seriously:rolleyes:

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...:mad:

Originally posted by pennyho
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...:mad: \

Shutup.

LMFAO. I don't think I've ever seen anyone have that many posts remove in one thread. V-10Viper, the Extremes are just a body kit and lowered 2 inches. No power whatsoever just 180hp.

Originally posted by Pick
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Shutup.
why don't you shut up nissan boy!:shocked:

Originally posted by pennyho

why don't you shut up nissan boy!:shocked:

What's wrong with being a Nissan boy?

slow and ugly(just my opinion dont piss me off for saying that)!:flipa:

Originally posted by pennyho
slow and ugly(just my opinion dont piss me off for saying that)!:flipa:

Slow? I think not. Ugly? Have you looked at your interior lately?

And yes, I will piss you off. Once again, stop starting shit and shut up.

i love how he calls nissans slow when stock for stock, his car and some nissans are quite comparable in speed.


1995 camaro Z28
0-60: 5.5
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed: 101

1995 300ZX turbo
0-60: 5.5
1/4 Mile: 13.9

2003 350Z
0-60: 5.4
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed: 101

Ok what the hell did pennyho say to me I completely missed that and it's removed? Obviously it was some insult to my truck but I want to hear it. Reinstate it pennyho or someone else and don't delete it.

S-10 Extremes are awesome as hell, their V-6's are probably close to the power of your Camaro, and I bet his Trans Am would beat your Camaro
I would definately argue to the end that the Xtreme's are the best looking truck out there, but it's not anywhere close to the power of his Camaro. However my own Xtreme, will most likely be producing more power then his Camaro will after this summer, that is if I can save up the cash and not blow it like an idiot. No offense to your Camaro or anything, my Trans Am would certainly lose to it, but the X is well, getting some goodies.

88 GTA vs 95 Z28, sorry to dissapoint you v10_viper but my 350 comes with 235 hp, his comes with 280 something, yeah thats a good old Chevy ass kickin' there.

you didnt miss anything. it was an inane flame directed at me

So what was v10_viper defending my S-10 Xtreme for and quoting pennyho?

Originally posted by kidrocket
i love how he calls nissans slow when stock for stock, his car and some nissans are quite comparable in speed.


1995 camaro Z28
0-60: 5.5
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed: 101

1995 300ZX turbo
0-60: 5.5
1/4 Mile: 13.9

2003 350Z
0-60: 5.4
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed: 101

Don't forget: 2002 NIssan Maxima 6-speed-
0-60: 5.9
1/4: 14.6
1/4 speed:97

A well driven 2002 SE could beat a decently driven z28. Consider traction and I have a few mods.;)

i was referring to stock for stock, but even so, it isnt that far off. i have seen a few modded maximas running 13s though

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